Today, Nintendo leaves the Brazilian market entirely

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#1 Blabadon
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This is translated via Google translate

http://jogos.uol.com.br/ultimas-noticias/2015/01/09/nintendo-encerra-operacoes-no-brasil.htm

Nintendo announced today (9) shall not distribute more games and consoles in Brazil.

As of January 2015, the Gaming Brazil, Juegos subsidiary company of Video Latin America, no longer distribute Nintendo products in Brazil. Brazil's distributed Gaming Nintendo's products in the country for the last four years. "Brazil is an important market for Nintendo and home to many passionate fans but unfortunately challenges in the business local environment have made ​​our current distribution model in the country unsustainable, "said Bill van Zyll, Director and General Manager for Latin America of Nintendo of America.

"These challenges include high tariffs on imports that apply to our industry and our decision not to have a local manufacturing operation. Working together with the Juegos de Video Latinoamérica, we will monitor the evolution of the business environment and evaluate the best way to serve our Brazilian fans in the future. "

Despite the changes in Brazil, Juegos de Video Latinoamérica remains the distributor of Nintendo for Latin America. "We are partners in Nintendo's distribution of its products in Latin America for 14 years and we remain committed to the brand. And while no other changes are planned for other markets in the region are in a position where we need to reevaluate our approach to distribution in Brazil, "explains Bernard Josephs, CEO of Juegos de Video LatinAmerica.

"We will continue to monitor the environment in the country so that we can evaluate future opportunities."

Longstanding problems

It is not new that the ratio of Nintendo with Brazil is problematic. For more than a year is impossible for many people to buy content from the online store eShop portable Nintendo 3DS. That's because Nintendo did not adapt themselves to the banking regulation that prevents certain bank credit cards such as Bradesco, Itaú and Santander efetuem operations at online stores that feature real in prices, but charge in dollars.

The online store of the Wii U so even exist - and Nintendo points as a reason for this precisely the problem mentioned above.

The absence of the Wii U eShop here prevents players from buying online exclusive content, such as games Classic Virtual Console, and generates other unusual situations, "Mario Kart 8" received a free extra content that Brazilians can not download it is necessary to access the online store.

Both Microsoft and Sony faced the same situation with their respective online stores for consoles, but managed to solve and offer alternatives even in 2013

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I understand taxes there are crazy and according to Brazilians I know, systems are crazy overpriced there, but damn Nitnendo. Damn.

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#4 YearoftheSnake5
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If Nintendo wants to sell there, they need to adapt. Find a way to make it work.

On a side note, console prices in Brazil are stupid from what I hear.

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#5 Blabadon
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@KBFloYd: Stop

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The beginning of the end...

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#7 KBFloYd
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@Blabadon said:

@KBFloYd: Stop

stop what....the vita is fucking Dead

ps4 not as good as the wii...

keep sucking that group of theives and scammers called sony.

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Nobody buys electronics legitimately in Brazil. It's cheaper to fly to the states and buy an iPhone than it is to buy an iPhone there. At least that what a co-worker from Brazil has told me.

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Didn't Iwata say they were assessing strategies for developing markets like the BRIC nations?

So far they seem to be doing a wonderful job :/

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Nintendo is doing very badly. First flop and now kicked out market. Ouch. Xbox One and PS4 outsold Wii U and yet PS4 and Xbox One are similar but this proves how bad Wii U really is. It has no online gaming we all wanted. Dead and outdated system and lack of games

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@FreedomFreeLife said:

Nintendo is doing very badly. First flop and now kicked out market. Ouch. Xbox One and PS4 outsold Wii U and yet PS4 and Xbox One are similar but this proves how bad Wii U really is. It has no online gaming we all wanted. Dead and outdated system and lack of games

I legitimately could not make this rabbling read as coherent and somewhat sensible, no matter how hard I tried.

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Brazil's ridiculous import taxes are to blame. Massive companies like Microsoft and Sony may be able to adapt, but it makes perfect sense why Nintendo would opt to exit the Brazilian market.

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@charizard1605 said:

@FreedomFreeLife said:

Nintendo is doing very badly. First flop and now kicked out market. Ouch. Xbox One and PS4 outsold Wii U and yet PS4 and Xbox One are similar but this proves how bad Wii U really is. It has no online gaming we all wanted. Dead and outdated system and lack of games

I legitimately could not make this rabbling read as coherent and somewhat sensible, no matter how hard I tried.

he seems to have some kind of hatred towards nintendo....because nintendo are untouchable as the best gamming company ever and he knows it.

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#17  Edited By nintendoboy16
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@KBFloYd said:

@charizard1605 said:

@FreedomFreeLife said:

Nintendo is doing very badly. First flop and now kicked out market. Ouch. Xbox One and PS4 outsold Wii U and yet PS4 and Xbox One are similar but this proves how bad Wii U really is. It has no online gaming we all wanted. Dead and outdated system and lack of games

I legitimately could not make this rabbling read as coherent and somewhat sensible, no matter how hard I tried.

he seems to have some kind of hatred towards nintendo....because nintendo are untouchable as the best gamming company ever and he knows it.

I don't think that was the point.

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#18  Edited By KBFloYd
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@nintendoboy16 said:

@KBFloYd said:

he seems to have some kind of hatred towards nintendo....because nintendo are untouchable as the best gamming company ever and he knows it.

I don't think that was the point.

charizard or freedomfreelife?

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Taxes. MS and Sony built facilities to manufacture consoles. Nintendo decided not to build a facility to make consoles in brazil. Its really as simple as that. With import prices as ridiculous as they are it makes sense that Nintendo just pulls out of there. If they can find a way to get the eshop fixed then they can bypass all the import laws and it should be a priority for Nintendo. Assuming they find a way to get the console prices down.

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@KBFloYd said:

@charizard1605 said:

@FreedomFreeLife said:

Nintendo is doing very badly. First flop and now kicked out market. Ouch. Xbox One and PS4 outsold Wii U and yet PS4 and Xbox One are similar but this proves how bad Wii U really is. It has no online gaming we all wanted. Dead and outdated system and lack of games

I legitimately could not make this rabbling read as coherent and somewhat sensible, no matter how hard I tried.

he seems to have some kind of hatred towards nintendo....because nintendo are untouchable as the best gamming company ever and he knows it.

Before Playstation 1 release. Since after Playstation no longer. Wii U has only Nintendo games, but PS4 and Xbox One has exclusive games, big games, indie games, online games... millions sold. Wii U has nothing.. only Mario and Zelda but nothing else. Shame on you WiiBot

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@FreedomFreeLife said:

@KBFloYd said:

@charizard1605 said:

@FreedomFreeLife said:

Nintendo is doing very badly. First flop and now kicked out market. Ouch. Xbox One and PS4 outsold Wii U and yet PS4 and Xbox One are similar but this proves how bad Wii U really is. It has no online gaming we all wanted. Dead and outdated system and lack of games

I legitimately could not make this rabbling read as coherent and somewhat sensible, no matter how hard I tried.

he seems to have some kind of hatred towards nintendo....because nintendo are untouchable as the best gamming company ever and he knows it.

Before Playstation 1 release. Since after Playstation no longer. Wii U has only Nintendo games, but PS4 and Xbox One has exclusive games, big games, indie games, online games... millions sold. Wii U has nothing.. only Mario and Zelda but nothing else. Shame on you WiiBot

You're a special kind of stupid,eh?

Wii U doesn't have indie games? It doesn't have online games?

But you just said that Wii U has Nintendo games,how come you later say it has nothing?

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@Blabadon said:

I understand taxes there are crazy and according to Brazilians I know, systems are crazy overpriced there, but damn Nitnendo. Damn.

Its not really taxes but the protectionism used in Brazil which puts huge tarriffs on imports. Might suck for gaming fans but its helped to drive the Brazilan economy from a 3rd world one to one of the 10 biggest in the world.

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@FreedomFreeLife said:

Before Playstation 1 release. Since after Playstation no longer. Wii U has only Nintendo games, but PS4 and Xbox One has exclusive games, big games, indie games, online games... millions sold. Wii U has nothing.. only Mario and Zelda but nothing else. Shame on you WiiBot

Yeah I mean, Shovel Knight is totally not an indie game for the Wii U, Super Smash Bros. isn't that BIG despite it being the fastest Wii U game to be sold, and you can't really play online on Mario Kart 8 as well as other games. I can definitely SEE where you're coming from!

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#24  Edited By leandrro
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wait untill wii u piracy starts and then all shops in brazil will sell them

and yes, nintendo seems to be on slow death

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If it wasn't for fanboys buying their $15 happy meal toys they would be leaving the entire industry. Nintendo hardware is dead except 3DS in Japan.

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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

If it wasn't for fanboys buying their $15 happy meal toys they would be leaving the entire industry. Nintendo hardware is dead except 3DS in Japan.

And yet, WiiU is the only next gen console with games. Go figure.

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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

If it wasn't for fanboys buying their $15 happy meal toys they would be leaving the entire industry. Nintendo hardware is dead except 3DS in Japan.

Out of 45 million 3DS units sold so far, a third have been sold in Japan.

Sounds like it's doing pretty okay worldwide, you know?

And what about the games? What PS4 or Xbox One game has sold as much as Mario Kart 8? Hint: none.

Nintendo's definitely doing pretty poorly right now, but after fifteen years, and these exact same 'Nintendo is doomed' song and dance routines that we went through with the SNES/N64/Gamecube, I'd have thought you all would know better than to just count the company out.

Sad, really.

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@speedfreak48t5p said:

@NathanDrakeSwag said:

If it wasn't for fanboys buying their $15 happy meal toys they would be leaving the entire industry. Nintendo hardware is dead except 3DS in Japan.

And yet, WiiU is the only next gen console with games. Go figure.

If you only like games with Mario in them and hate third parties.

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PC claims another victim in the great land of Brazil.

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There was also probably the piracy factor as well. Brazil is notorious for console piracy (because the consoles cost so much to buy, nobody has money left to buy games).

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@charizard1605 said:

@NathanDrakeSwag said:

If it wasn't for fanboys buying their $15 happy meal toys they would be leaving the entire industry. Nintendo hardware is dead except 3DS in Japan.

Out of 45 million 3DS units sold so far, a third have been sold in Japan.

Sounds like it's doing pretty okay worldwide, you know?

And what about the games? What PS4 or Xbox One game has sold as much as Mario Kart 8? Hint: none.

Nintendo's definitely doing pretty poorly right now, but after fifteen years, and these exact same 'Nintendo is doomed' song and dance routines that we went through with the SNES/N64/Gamecube, I'd have thought you all would know better than to just count the company out.

Sad, really.

Of course MK8 has a perfect attach rate. What else are WiiU owners gonna buy? It doesn't have competition from third party games so all Nintendo fans have to do is buy 2 or 3 games a year.

Had they followed up the GC with the WiiU it would be their last console. The Wii was a fluke and bought them some extra time. Amiibo is their new fad, lets see how long till it dies like Brain Age and motion controls.

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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

@charizard1605 said:

@NathanDrakeSwag said:

If it wasn't for fanboys buying their $15 happy meal toys they would be leaving the entire industry. Nintendo hardware is dead except 3DS in Japan.

Out of 45 million 3DS units sold so far, a third have been sold in Japan.

Sounds like it's doing pretty okay worldwide, you know?

And what about the games? What PS4 or Xbox One game has sold as much as Mario Kart 8? Hint: none.

Nintendo's definitely doing pretty poorly right now, but after fifteen years, and these exact same 'Nintendo is doomed' song and dance routines that we went through with the SNES/N64/Gamecube, I'd have thought you all would know better than to just count the company out.

Sad, really.

Of course MK8 has a perfect attach rate. What else are WiiU owners gonna buy? It doesn't have competition from third party games so all Nintendo fans have to do is buy 2 or 3 games a year.

Had they followed up the GC with the WiiU it would be their last console. The Wii was a fluke and bought them some extra time. Amiibo is their new fad, lets see how long till it dies like Brain Age and motion controls.

What games are you buying for the PS4? Seems like it has a few generic 3rd party games, some last gen remakes, and Infamous.

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@blue_hazy_basic said:

@Blabadon said:

I understand taxes there are crazy and according to Brazilians I know, systems are crazy overpriced there, but damn Nitnendo. Damn.

Its not really taxes but the protectionism used in Brazil which puts huge tarriffs on imports. Might suck for gaming fans but its helped to drive the Brazilan economy from a 3rd world one to one of the 10 biggest in the world.

With a corrupt and broken government, terrible spending, tax excluded politicians, drug trafficking, and making the average person being poor.

In all honestly that jump really doesn't mean much outside the city dwellers (and I mean in the not cheap parts of those cities) are the only ones with money even then, low end, they are just doing ok.

So I can't really say that actually has benefited the country at all.

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@brickedntricked said:

@GoldenElementXL said:

Nobody buys electronics legitimately in Brazil. It's cheaper to fly to the states and buy an iPhone than it is to buy an iPhone there. At least that what a co-worker from Brazil has told me.

It is I know some people that export things there umm creatively.

yep, All Brazilians I've came across all come to buy latops, consoles, Phones, electronics ect... and take them with to Brazil.

They all say the same hing, its better to come to the US and buy it here than to ever buy anything in Brazil.

Their tax is like 900%

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@TigerSuperman said:

@blue_hazy_basic said:

@Blabadon said:

I understand taxes there are crazy and according to Brazilians I know, systems are crazy overpriced there, but damn Nitnendo. Damn.

Its not really taxes but the protectionism used in Brazil which puts huge tarriffs on imports. Might suck for gaming fans but its helped to drive the Brazilan economy from a 3rd world one to one of the 10 biggest in the world.

With a corrupt and broken government, terrible spending, tax excluded politicians, drug trafficking, and making the average person being poor.

In all honestly that jump really doesn't mean much outside the city dwellers (and I mean in the not cheap parts of those cities) are the only ones with money even then, low end, they are just doing ok.

So I can't really say that actually has benefited the country at all.

Not really the place for an indepth discussion in to the benefits and flaws of a partially protected capitalist economy, but I wasn't suggesting that it was all roses in Brazil, only that the protectionism (that this was basically refering to) had helped the country enormously. Of course its really just a certain section of the populace that has benefitted and it hasn't trickled down to rural areas or to the favelas or the awful poverty which afflicts many of the slums. If you compare it to other South and Central American economies its massively out performed them.

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Who cares, Fifa is on PS4 anyway

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@charizard1605 said:

@NathanDrakeSwag said:

If it wasn't for fanboys buying their $15 happy meal toys they would be leaving the entire industry. Nintendo hardware is dead except 3DS in Japan.

Out of 45 million 3DS units sold so far, a third have been sold in Japan.

Sounds like it's doing pretty okay worldwide, you know?

And what about the games? What PS4 or Xbox One game has sold as much as Mario Kart 8? Hint: none.

Nintendo's definitely doing pretty poorly right now, but after fifteen years, and these exact same 'Nintendo is doomed' song and dance routines that we went through with the SNES/N64/Gamecube, I'd have thought you all would know better than to just count the company out.

Sad, really.

After hearing "Nintendo is kiddy" for so long I think "Nintendo is doomed" is a nice change of tune :)

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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

@charizard1605 said:

@NathanDrakeSwag said:

If it wasn't for fanboys buying their $15 happy meal toys they would be leaving the entire industry. Nintendo hardware is dead except 3DS in Japan.

Out of 45 million 3DS units sold so far, a third have been sold in Japan.

Sounds like it's doing pretty okay worldwide, you know?

And what about the games? What PS4 or Xbox One game has sold as much as Mario Kart 8? Hint: none.

Nintendo's definitely doing pretty poorly right now, but after fifteen years, and these exact same 'Nintendo is doomed' song and dance routines that we went through with the SNES/N64/Gamecube, I'd have thought you all would know better than to just count the company out.

Sad, really.

Of course MK8 has a perfect attach rate. What else are WiiU owners gonna buy? It doesn't have competition from third party games so all Nintendo fans have to do is buy 2 or 3 games a year.

Had they followed up the GC with the WiiU it would be their last console. The Wii was a fluke and bought them some extra time. Amiibo is their new fad, lets see how long till it dies like Brain Age and motion controls.

Mario Kart 8 has around a 50% attach rate. It may be around 4 or 4.5 million right now in terms of sales. Digital numbers may also add a bit more to this number. It's also currently the highest selling next gen exclusive game.

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This sounds bad, feel sorry for all sheep in Brazil, no Zelda/Starfox for yo

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POOR BRUNO

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#43  Edited By parkurtommo
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@farrell2k said:

Oh, noes! Nintendo no longer selling consoles in a 3rd world country where the average salary is a little over $6,000 USD per year?! Nintendo is doomed!!!!!11111

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@KBFloYd said:

they were all sony drones anyway...**** them.

I think you mean "Sega" drones. Even to this date the Sega Genesis/Mega Drive still remains as one of the most popular consoles there.

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@speedfreak48t5p said:

@NathanDrakeSwag said:

If it wasn't for fanboys buying their $15 happy meal toys they would be leaving the entire industry. Nintendo hardware is dead except 3DS in Japan.

And yet, WiiU is the only next gen console with games. Go figure.

And yet nothing. Of all the current gen systems the Wii U has the least amount of games even though it came out a year earlier. Just because it has 2 or 3 high scored exclusives it doesn't change the fact that the console pales in comparison to the competition when it comes to variety.

If you're not into Nintendo rehashes like Mario Kart and Smash Bross that provide less change than your average yearly series, yet they somehow tend to score much better, then you practically have no games.

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Nintendo can't handle the booty.

Guess they had to pull out prematurely.

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#47 freedomfreak
Member since 2004 • 52557 Posts

Mmm brazil ass

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#48  Edited By Desmonic  Moderator
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Nintendo doesn't like hot babes confirmed! :P

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Yeah, the tax situation there is a bit crazy, though I've seen some people say that Ninty themselves didn't make a single effort to adapt (versus Sony's or MS's efforts) thus sales were presumably low. It is unfortunate for current owners of Nintendo hardware. Especially for eShop stuff. All in all, a big mess....

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#49 deactivated-5cd08b1605da1
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@KBFloYd said:

@Blabadon said:

@KBFloYd: Stop

stop what....the vita is fucking Dead

ps4 not as good as the wii...

keep sucking that group of theives and scammers called sony.

u sound mad

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#50 ConanTheStoner
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@Desmonic said:

Nintendo doesn't like hot babes confirmed! :P

You know that there must be at least one Nintendo employee there that had to choose between his job and his babe. We need to know this guys story.