Tomb Raider reboot? Bow combat on horseback? Survival horror? Say what? (UPDATE)

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#52 ChrisSpartan117
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="mitu123"]

You know, I just considered the implications of that...

:o

siLVURcross

You thinking what I'm thinking?:P

Yes. :o Lara will curse a LOT.

*facepalm* I'm not even going to bother, since it's obvious you did this on purpose. Also, I'm going to randomly say Michael Bay to get rid of that HTML error.

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#53 Cherokee_Jack
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[QUOTE="siLVURcross"][QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"] You thinking what I'm thinking?:P

ChrisSpartan117

Yes. :o Lara will curse a LOT.

*facepalm* I'm not even going to bother, since it's obvious you did this on purpose. Also, I'm going to randomly say Michael Bay to get rid of that HTML error.

Did what?
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#54 muzik_mafia
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

[QUOTE="shutdown_202"]She also looks much hotter than her old designs.MJPK

Come to think of it, if you flipped that image and cropped it a bit...

Hmm...

New Lara looks alot like Kate Beckinsale.

Mmm... Kate Beckinsale...

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#55 MJPK
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[QUOTE="MJPK"]

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

Come to think of it, if you flipped that image and cropped it a bit...

Hmm...

muzik_mafia

New Lara looks alot like Kate Beckinsale.

Mmm... Kate Beckinsale...

indeed ;)

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#56 jasonharris48
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[QUOTE="muzik_mafia"]

[QUOTE="MJPK"]

New Lara looks alot like Kate Beckinsale.

MJPK

Mmm... Kate Beckinsale...

indeed ;)

I would have to agree with you guys

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#57 ycole11
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I don't know why, but this reboot worries me.

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#58 skrat_01
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I dare say this, but I believe this is the first Tomb Raider game that i'm actually anticipating information on.... I really like the idea of an open world 'survival / action adventure' game.
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#59 FrozenLiquid
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Sounds good, but oh my, anotheropen world game. Sounds quite a bit like Assassin's Creedactually. How many people liked that game again?

Why they're making a reboot is beyond me. Just continue the adventure. And please Crystal Dynamics, don't forget the tomb raiding.

Yes, dear god. Turn Lara into an interesting character for once. I liked Underworld for what it was, but this genre needs a huge reboot, and I hope this is it.

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She's always been interesting, and her character has progressed over the entire series. It was the games she featured in that refused to make an interesting change.

On that note, the whole idea of "Tomb Raider sucks" is overblown. Her lowest point was Angel of Darkness. The sequels before that were good for what they were.

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#60 FrozenLiquid
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Oh man... why didn't they mention puzzles? Honestly, I was a little worried about the emphasis on combat (combat in TR has always been kept basic for a reason), but there's not a mention of any puzzle overhaul or something...

**** this. This is going to be another action game.

Crystal Dynamics, you've made the Soul Reaver series and picked up Tomb Raider before she fell into the bottomless pit. Please, *please* don't deviate too much from TR's roots. Reinvent her. Don't redirect her.

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#61 skrat_01
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Sounds good, but oh my, anotheropen world game. Sounds quite a bit like Assassin's Creedactually. How many people liked that game again?

Why they're making a reboot is beyond me. Just continue the adventure. And please Crystal Dynamics, don't forget the tomb raiding.

FrozenLiquid

The last game I remember that decided to do open world survival horror /action adventure - let alone only title - that I can think of, was Alan Wake.

And well.... Its no longer open world.

I wouldn't be worried with the platforming and 'Tomb Raiding', I think the developers will still take this to heart, as exploration still seems to be at the games core.

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#62 AAllxxjjnn
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Wow, i'm actually pretty excited for new info on this...i haven't liked Tomb Raider in forever.
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#63 FrozenLiquid
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The last game I remember that decided to do open world survival horror /action adventure - let alone only title - that I can think of, was Alan Wake.

And well.... Its no longer open world.

I wouldn't be worried with the platforming and 'Tomb Raiding', I think the developers will still take this to heart, as exploration still seems to be at the games core.

skrat_01

Survival horror is really just a title for the premise. Platforming and open world is basically Assassin's Creed. I guess since AC's platforming made Tomb Raider's obsolete, TR has to step up to the plate. If this new TR is all platforming and combat though, it's going to reek of AC.

I hope the tombs mentioned have some pretty hardout puzzles to solve because I think that would truly turn TR into its own thing.

I would say I have faith in Crystal Dynamics, in fact, I do, but their first foray into the TR franchise turned the TR into a shooter. Legend kinda sucked as a TR game, and unfortunately was a mediocre action game too.

But yeah, platforming and puzzles make TR. Play TR: Anniversary. It may have to compete with Underworld as the best TR game, but it's definitely the most purest. While there's an imminent sense of danger from wildlife and supernatural creatures, they are few and far between, not to mention brief.

I hope CD would look at Anniversary, and try convert that experience for the sandbox. Tomb raiding in an open world? Sounds pretty damn awesome to me :D.

Actually, I wouldn't mind a compromise of survival horror in the jungle, and puzzling/platforming in the tombs. Now *that* would be a freakin' awesome game.

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#64 metalgear-solid
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[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

Tomb Raider is one of the games on my"must die" list. Along with Sonic.

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The last few TR games haven't been bad. I just wish Lara Croft would die, or atleast have some personality injected into her. :D

Yes, the series has been bad for a while now. But what can you do when there are always idiots who buy the game because of the name.

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#65 FrozenLiquid
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

Tomb Raider is one of the games on my"must die" list. Along with Sonic.

metalgear-solid

The last few TR games haven't been bad. I just wish Lara Croft would die, or atleast have some personality injected into her. :D

Yes, the series has been bad for a while now. But what can you do when there are always idiots who buy the game because of the name.

Excuse me? I find that offensive. FYI, we "idiots" did not buy Angel of Darkness, arguably the worst of the TR game. The significance of that? Angel of Darkness was suppose to be a trilogy, but cancelled due to - wait for it - poor sales.
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#66 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

The last game I remember that decided to do open world survival horror /action adventure - let alone only title - that I can think of, was Alan Wake.

And well.... Its no longer open world.

I wouldn't be worried with the platforming and 'Tomb Raiding', I think the developers will still take this to heart, as exploration still seems to be at the games core.

FrozenLiquid

Survival horror is really just a title for the premise. Platforming and open world is basically Assassin's Creed. I guess since AC's platforming made Tomb Raider's obsolete, TR has to step up to the plate. If this new TR is all platforming and combat though, it's going to reek of AC.

I hope the tombs mentioned have some pretty hardout puzzles to solve because I think that would truly turn TR into its own thing.

I would say I have faith in Crystal Dynamics, in fact, I do, but their first foray into the TR franchise turned the TR into a shooter. Legend kinda sucked as a TR game, and unfortunately was a mediocre action game too.

But yeah, platforming and puzzles make TR. Play TR: Anniversary. It may have to compete with Underworld as the best TR game, but it's definitely the most purest. While there's an imminent sense of danger from wildlife and supernatural creatures, they are few and far between, not to mention brief.

I hope CD would look at Anniversary, and try convert that experience for the sandbox. Tomb raiding in an open world? Sounds pretty damn awesome to me :D.

Actually, I wouldn't mind a compromise of survival horror in the jungle, and puzzling/platforming in the tombs. Now *that* would be a freakin' awesome game.

You do have a point it could be open world platforming such as AC however I think the approach will be dramatically different. AC was less about exploration (from what is being hinted) and survival, and more about fast fluid mobility, navigation and evasion.

Saying that I wouldn't be surprised if the two have similarities, then again pacing and the very basics of the platforming mechanics can be quite distinctive in difference - who knows.

Though judging by the setting the new TR seems to be much more focused on the wildlife and supernatural, which for better or worse - could be more frequent in encountering certain enemies - though that's just me speculating.

I kind of think it'll be; more open world exploration, with sub 'levels' (or tombs) scattered for the player to enter and progress through - which will be more traditional TR stuff, whereas the open world might be more survival action combined with platforming - pretty much what you said in your last paragraph, and pretty much why i'm quite interested in it - as there really isnt anything else like that.

I can see why people wouldn't like a change in direction, but personally I think this could be great for the franchise if it works on the strengths of the previous games while introducing a new design structure perhaps.