Football manager is an indie game ? That is published by sega and is one of the biggest if not the biggest seller of Sega
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Football manager is an indie game ? That is published by sega and is one of the biggest if not the biggest seller of Sega
@the_master_race:
Should read:
"Top 10 Indie Games on PC console Gamers Won't Want to Play"
I couldn't even stand playing Hyperdimension Neptunia Producing Perfection as a manager game, why the hell would I wanna play Football Manager 2019?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Multiplats are what makes the PS4 it seems. And boy, they do love some CoD
https://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/top-10-best-selling-ps4-games-lifetime-in-usa-gtac-33445513/
Hermits now trying to brag with ...indies. LOL, how far they've fallen.
Come back when you get a AAA exclusive.
come back when you have literally any other argument against PC.
that one is tired and overblown
"C..cc...come back when you have other arguement"
Lol, exclusives are what make or break a platform, sorry hermits, PC is pathetic in that regard.
Keep coping with your indies though LOL!
Football manager is an indie game ? That is published by sega and is one of the biggest if not the biggest seller of Sega
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@the_master_race: who's list is that?
Still trying to figure out if this is a list of good games, bad games, if this is a troll thread, if this is claiming ownaged, if this is damage control... Etc.
good games but not for everyone
Yeah that's what I like so much about independent games, they're very niche. There truly is a game out there for everyone and at the same time no one (relatively speaking).
... yet
yeah , hopefully some of them will be released on consoles too
I can see Frostpunk doing well, it's very grid-based (but broadly so) so you don't need fine control as with most city/management games like this.
Hermits now trying to brag with ...indies. LOL, how far they've fallen.
Come back when you get a AAA exclusive.
come back when you have literally any other argument against PC.
that one is tired and overblown
Lol, exclusives are what make or break a platform, sorry hermits, PC is pathetic in that regard.
Keep coping with your indies though LOL!
actually it has far more, and far more varied exclusives than your console. budget, hype and marketing does not equal whether a game is actually good.
plus, PC gamers aren't poor so they are buying consoles and playing those games anyways. The only thing we have to "cope" with is the shitty frame rate these console exclusive games are shackled with.
in the real world, people don't decide what games they play based on how high of a budget a game has, or whether or not its even exclusive.
PC gets the highest number of high quality games, with more variety than any console-only player could dream of.
@the_master_race: who's list is that?
Still trying to figure out if this is a list of good games, bad games, if this is a troll thread, if this is claiming ownaged, if this is damage control... Etc.
good games but not for everyone
Yeah that's what I like so much about independent games, they're very niche. There truly is a game out there for everyone and at the same time no one (relatively speaking).
... yet
yeah , hopefully some of them will be released on consoles too
I can see Frostpunk doing well, it's very grid-based (but broadly so) so you don't need fine control as with most city/management games like this.
I made this list based on RPS's "Best PC Games of 2018"
@ghosts4ever: You're not going to be playing the likes of Battletech or Frostpunk on a phone any time soon. I think you're really a console gamer at heart.
but why would i play battletech and frostpunk? why i waste so much money just to play low budget 2d indie?
I build it to play Doom Eternal and Metro Exodus.
Neither of those games are 2D and you're not playing Metro Exodus.
I've played Battletech and Frostpunk,, both excellent games, Two Point Hospital is next on the list, I loved Theme Hospital back in the day.
More indie garbage. Yeah, you're welcome to it. PC gamer here by the way.
and now a console gamer
You can't read? Is this why you had to change your idiot thread title?
PC AND console gamer I can afford more than one system to play games on and I love games unlike you who is just in love with his hardware, that's where we differ.
I didn't put an expensive PC together to waste my time on garbage indie games, that's another area we differ in, assuming you even have a fucking decent PC which actually I doubt.
Why bother building an expensive PC at all if all you want to play are AAA budget games from big publishers? They are generally aimed at the mainstream console consumer anyway.
Who said anything about only playing AAA budget games? Can you point me to where I said that because I think I missed it somehow.
Currently playing: AC Odyssey - one of the best games I've ever played. Hate it because it's AAA and Ubisoft if you must, your loss. Next up: Divinity Original Sin 2, not AAA budget by any stretch I just haven't got around to it, also Ys VIII which I got on sale for PS4, small budget but they make really great games, Detroit Become Human at some point I'll play it and I also have stuff like SOMA and Observer on the backburner and there are tons more I want to play and just don't have the time and very few of them are what you might call AAA and some are probably even considered indie.
The main point is I'm not going to waste time on indie trash that's derivative and even plagiaristic of really, really old games if I wanted to play games that look like they should be on a fucking SNES I'll go ahead and get my SNES out of the attic.
You insinuated it with your post.
Then the first game you mention is a AAA big budget game. On that note I actually agree with you I'm currently playing Odyssey as well, I don't think it's one of the best games I've played but Alexios is about the best protagonist the series has had since Ezio and he makes a seriously entertaining game. (Kassandra is just Alexios with in a woman skin and a completely pointless addition).
Your words above "more Indie garbage" and then say you intend to play indie games. There are several excellent games in the OP's list, not all of them are my choice of game nor would I play them but to blanket them all as "indie garbage" is completely wrong.
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More indie garbage. Yeah, you're welcome to it. PC gamer here by the way.
and now a console gamer
You can't read? Is this why you had to change your idiot thread title?
PC AND console gamer I can afford more than one system to play games on and I love games unlike you who is just in love with his hardware, that's where we differ.
I didn't put an expensive PC together to waste my time on garbage indie games, that's another area we differ in, assuming you even have a fucking decent PC which actually I doubt.
christ how close-minded can you be.
I reckon any of those games on the list would be a better use of time than spending hours farting around in some wide-as-a-ocean but shallow-as-a-puddle AAA open world game.
have fun living in your own little bubble of ignorance
You come out with this bullshit without even knowing what games I'm playing? What was that you were saying about ignorance? I'm playing one open world game, the first I've played in a long time. Everything else on my to play list is far from open world.
Go back to playing games on your PC that look and play like stuff I played on console 20 years ago and kid yourself you're hip and cool and into 'real' gameplay lol it's hard to know whether to laugh or cry at this shit.
i'm sorry, I can't take anyone who uses the term "indie garbage" seriously, I really dont care what you have to say.
This thread is specifically about Indy's, so bringing up big budget games is a total straw-man.
But I'm not sure why you would even do that, as no single console even gets the same amount of big budget games as PC (due to console exclusives and emulation). So Cows have arbitrarily narrowed the generation library lists to big budget exclusives that aren't TBS, F2P, or MMOs. Nothing else counts. Because people apparently only play 3-4 short single-player games every 8 years.
It's becoming ludicrous at this point with their fake rules.
@the_master_race: Right ... Then I suggest you to change the title to "10 indie PC games, console gamers won't have the chance to play" and I think you are missing a few games to make this list noteworthy.
K , It's done
Edit : tell me their names I add them to the list
I've been keeping an eye on a few games, for a while now ... honestly i don't know if they are on console as well...
Northgard.
Pathologic 2
Forgotten Anne
Dettention
Pillars of Eternity II
They are Billions.
I'm aware some of those are early access... but they do look interesting.
What about Undertale?
that game released in 2015
I'm aware, I just like to point that out cause it's not on consoles lol.
It's coming to the Switch and isn't out for the PS4 and Vita?
@the_master_race: Right ... Then I suggest you to change the title to "10 indie PC games, console gamers won't have the chance to play" and I think you are missing a few games to make this list noteworthy.
K , It's done
Edit : tell me their names I add them to the list
I've been keeping an eye on a few games, for a while now ... honestly i don't know if they are on console as well...
Northgard.
Pathologic 2
Forgotten Anne
Dettention
Pillars of Eternity II
They are Billions.
I'm aware some of those are early access... but they do look interesting.
Northgard 》》 Interesting
Pathologic 2 》》 K , U got my attention
Forgotten Anne 》》 not exclusive
Dettention 》》 not exclusive any more
Pillars of Eternity II 》》 coming to consoles
@ghosts4ever: You're not going to be playing the likes of Battletech or Frostpunk on a phone any time soon. I think you're really a console gamer at heart.
but why would i play battletech and frostpunk? why i waste so much money just to play low budget 2d indie?
I build it to play Doom Eternal and Metro Exodus.
Neither of those games are 2D and you're not playing Metro Exodus.
I've played Battletech and Frostpunk,, both excellent games, Two Point Hospital is next on the list, I loved Theme Hospital back in the day.
and now a console gamer
You can't read? Is this why you had to change your idiot thread title?
PC AND console gamer I can afford more than one system to play games on and I love games unlike you who is just in love with his hardware, that's where we differ.
I didn't put an expensive PC together to waste my time on garbage indie games, that's another area we differ in, assuming you even have a fucking decent PC which actually I doubt.
Why bother building an expensive PC at all if all you want to play are AAA budget games from big publishers? They are generally aimed at the mainstream console consumer anyway.
Who said anything about only playing AAA budget games? Can you point me to where I said that because I think I missed it somehow.
Currently playing: AC Odyssey - one of the best games I've ever played. Hate it because it's AAA and Ubisoft if you must, your loss. Next up: Divinity Original Sin 2, not AAA budget by any stretch I just haven't got around to it, also Ys VIII which I got on sale for PS4, small budget but they make really great games, Detroit Become Human at some point I'll play it and I also have stuff like SOMA and Observer on the backburner and there are tons more I want to play and just don't have the time and very few of them are what you might call AAA and some are probably even considered indie.
The main point is I'm not going to waste time on indie trash that's derivative and even plagiaristic of really, really old games if I wanted to play games that look like they should be on a fucking SNES I'll go ahead and get my SNES out of the attic.
You insinuated it with your post.
Then the first game you mention is a AAA big budget game. On that note I actually agree with you I'm currently playing Odyssey as well, I don't think it's one of the best games I've played but Alexios is about the best protagonist the series has had since Ezio and he makes a seriously entertaining game. (Kassandra is just Alexios with in a woman skin and a completely pointless addition).
Your words above "more Indie garbage" and then say you intend to play indie games. There are several excellent games in the OP's list, not all of them are my choice of game nor would I play them but to blanket them all as "indie garbage" is completely wrong.
I insinuated nothing you automatically assumed that anyone who has no time for trash indie games only plays AAA big budget that was you putting words into my mouth just like that ignorant asshole who decided on my behalf that I only play open world games you are both spectacularly wrong because you're being ultra defensive for whatever reason.
There are good indie games but most of the indie sensation has come about due to regurgitation and plagiarism of ancient 2D games and/or games with incredibly low production values which some people including reviewers see as a plus (wtf??) and that's something I absolutely don't support and if it winds up some of the indie hipsters on here I make no apologies they can **** off too.
I've played Frostpunk and BattleTech and they were good to great game.
Also kinda interested in Two-Point Hospital as it's the spiritual successor of Theme Hospital.
Hermits now trying to brag with ...indies. LOL, how far they've fallen.
Come back when you get a AAA exclusive.
come back when you have literally any other argument against PC.
that one is tired and overblown
"C..cc...come back when you have other arguement"
Lol, exclusives are what make or break a platform, sorry hermits, PC is pathetic in that regard.
Keep coping with your indies though LOL!
don't worry kid we have the whole XBOX library and all your 3rd-party titles to fill the void ;)
Except for the game of the gen though, RDR2. But I'm sure indies will fill that void for you hermits, LOL!
Hermits now trying to brag with ...indies. LOL, how far they've fallen.
Come back when you get a AAA exclusive.
come back when you have literally any other argument against PC.
that one is tired and overblown
"C..cc...come back when you have other arguement"
Lol, exclusives are what make or break a platform, sorry hermits, PC is pathetic in that regard.
Keep coping with your indies though LOL!
don't worry kid we have the whole XBOX library and all your 3rd-party titles to fill the void ;)
Except for the game of the gen though, RDR2. But I'm sure indies will fill that void for you hermits, LOL!
"Game of the Gen" will come to PC in 6-12 month and that's not enough time for me to finish all these game
come back when you have literally any other argument against PC.
that one is tired and overblown
"C..cc...come back when you have other arguement"
Lol, exclusives are what make or break a platform, sorry hermits, PC is pathetic in that regard.
Keep coping with your indies though LOL!
don't worry kid we have the whole XBOX library and all your 3rd-party titles to fill the void ;)
Except for the game of the gen though, RDR2. But I'm sure indies will fill that void for you hermits, LOL!
"Game of the Gen" will come to PC in 6-12 month and that's not enough time for me to finish all these game
I'm happy you guys are thrilled with getting console scraps, a year old console game warming the heart of hermits makes me LOL.
"C..cc...come back when you have other arguement"
Lol, exclusives are what make or break a platform, sorry hermits, PC is pathetic in that regard.
Keep coping with your indies though LOL!
don't worry kid we have the whole XBOX library and all your 3rd-party titles to fill the void ;)
Except for the game of the gen though, RDR2. But I'm sure indies will fill that void for you hermits, LOL!
"Game of the Gen" will come to PC in 6-12 month and that's not enough time for me to finish all these game
I'm happy you guys are thrilled with getting console scraps, a year old console game warming the heart of hermits makes me LOL.
what makes my heart warm is that we will get the best Version of game @60 FPS with a ton of mods , scrap is what you're playing on your potato 4 now
don't worry kid we have the whole XBOX library and all your 3rd-party titles to fill the void ;)
Except for the game of the gen though, RDR2. But I'm sure indies will fill that void for you hermits, LOL!
"Game of the Gen" will come to PC in 6-12 month and that's not enough time for me to finish all these game
I'm happy you guys are thrilled with getting console scraps, a year old console game warming the heart of hermits makes me LOL.
what makes my heart warm is that we will get the best Version of game @60 FPS with a ton of mods , scrap is what you're playing on your potato 4 now
Hahaha! Dat butthurt, it just oozes out of that magnificent post you just made. Thank you, the beggar race always brings the sweetest of tears.
Except for the game of the gen though, RDR2. But I'm sure indies will fill that void for you hermits, LOL!
"Game of the Gen" will come to PC in 6-12 month and that's not enough time for me to finish all these game
I'm happy you guys are thrilled with getting console scraps, a year old console game warming the heart of hermits makes me LOL.
what makes my heart warm is that we will get the best Version of game @60 FPS with a ton of mods , scrap is what you're playing on your potato 4 now
Hahaha! Dat butthurt, it just oozes out of that magnificent post you just made. Thank you, the beggar race always brings the sweetest of tears.
I had more fun with COJ gunslinger than entire original RDR1. if RDR doesnot had western setting. it would be another boring open world game.
and the setting is exactly why im waiting for RDR2 on PC which 101% sure is going to released.
otherwise if gunslinger 2 announced today. i would be more hype for it.
... yet
yeah , hopefully some of them will be released on consoles too
thing is, a lot of indie titles on the PC are not well designed for console and often times porting them to console is just an afterthought. so the controls may not be ideal, depends on the game of course
Well it most certainly isn’t a list of games that I’m going to lose sleep over by not being able to play.
Except for the game of the gen though, RDR2. But I'm sure indies will fill that void for you hermits, LOL!
"Game of the Gen" will come to PC in 6-12 month and that's not enough time for me to finish all these game
I'm happy you guys are thrilled with getting console scraps, a year old console game warming the heart of hermits makes me LOL.
what makes my heart warm is that we will get the best Version of game @60 FPS with a ton of mods , scrap is what you're playing on your potato 4 now
Hahaha! Dat butthurt, it just oozes out of that magnificent post you just made. Thank you, the beggar race always brings the sweetest of tears.
beggar race , hermit , butthurt , srsly do you have anything real to add to this conversation ?
"Game of the Gen" will come to PC in 6-12 month and that's not enough time for me to finish all these game
I'm happy you guys are thrilled with getting console scraps, a year old console game warming the heart of hermits makes me LOL.
what makes my heart warm is that we will get the best Version of game @60 FPS with a ton of mods , scrap is what you're playing on your potato 4 now
Hahaha! Dat butthurt, it just oozes out of that magnificent post you just made. Thank you, the beggar race always brings the sweetest of tears.
beggar race , hermit , butthurt , srsly do you have anything real to add to this conversation ?
nah he has one argument then when you counter it, he ignores that and just resorts to name calling and the same tired phrases.
I'm not sure how old he is, but his mental age is that of a child.
Think I lasted 22 minutes on obra dinn before I got steam refund. Such a terribly boring game that has overwhelmingly positive reviews. Not my bag at all.
Lost Wing however is an indy game worth mentioning.. Think I've sunk over 60 hours into that because I wanted 'just one more go'
@GarGx1: if that's what an indie game is football manager should not be on that list as sports interactive were aquired by sega back in 2006.
I didn't make the list
I know, I just used your quote because you defined what an indie game is, should have included OP in the reply
@GarGx1: if that's what an indie game is football manager should not be on that list as sports interactive were aquired by sega back in 2006.
I didn't make the list
I know, I just used your quote because you defined what an indie game is, should have included OP in the reply
That's my understanding of what an independent developer is and if Sega own the I.P. rights to Football Manager then I'd say it's not strictly an indie title.
To be honest I couldn't care less if a game is "indie" or anything else, if it looks like something I'd enjoy then I'll buy it. A lot of the time aesthetics and graphics will put me off a game but I won't tar all games not made with a AAA budget as "indie trash" like others in here.
@GarGx1: if that's what an indie game is football manager should not be on that list as sports interactive were aquired by sega back in 2006.
I didn't make the list
I know, I just used your quote because you defined what an indie game is, should have included OP in the reply
That's my understanding of what an independent developer is and if Sega own the I.P. rights to Football Manager then I'd say it's not strictly an indie title.
To be honest I couldn't care less if a game is "indie" or anything else, if it looks like something I'd enjoy then I'll buy it. A lot of the time aesthetics and graphics will put me off a game but I won't tar all games not made with a AAA budget as "indie trash" like others in here.
case in point, best 1st person crappy graphics game I have ever played. (understand 'crappy graphics in first person' is a qualifier in what I am showing). I say this because the details of assembling a car is really immersive and controlling the game is nearly a mini-game in of itself
@tryit: That looks like a really in depth game that can probably teach a thing or two about mechanics. Sure it would probably look a lot nicer if it was made in Unreal Engine but I think depth is probably more important that aesthetics.
its oddly addictive.
as well as the mechanics you have to plan out your trips to the store so that you make good use of gas, find jobs etc.
good fun
The Witcher 3 is an indie game. Would you consider it garbage?
Well apparently I consider it garbage too gameplay wise.
what makes my heart warm is that we will get the best Version of game @60 FPS with a ton of mods , scrap is what you're playing on your potato 4 now
Hahaha! Dat butthurt, it just oozes out of that magnificent post you just made. Thank you, the beggar race always brings the sweetest of tears.
beggar race , hermit , butthurt , srsly do you have anything real to add to this conversation ?
nah he has one argument then when you counter it, he ignores that and just resorts to name calling and the same tired phrases.
I'm not sure how old he is, but his mental age is that of a child.
Look at that elitist attitude, mr 9000 posts that still is on system wars after 10 years, oh wow you surely do not have the mental age of a child. LMFAO! Typical hypocrite hermit behaviour.
what the F does post count have to do with anything at all even remotely?
what makes my heart warm is that we will get the best Version of game @60 FPS with a ton of mods , scrap is what you're playing on your potato 4 now
Hahaha! Dat butthurt, it just oozes out of that magnificent post you just made. Thank you, the beggar race always brings the sweetest of tears.
beggar race , hermit , butthurt , srsly do you have anything real to add to this conversation ?
nah he has one argument then when you counter it, he ignores that and just resorts to name calling and the same tired phrases.
I'm not sure how old he is, but his mental age is that of a child.
Look at that elitist attitude, mr 9000 posts that still is on system wars after 10 years, oh wow you surely do not have the mental age of a child. LMFAO! Typical hypocrite hermit behaviour.
you are right, I shouldn't stoop to your level of posting.
i'll go back to ignoring you since I've yet to see you post something of substance, mostly just inflamatory memes and phrases you stole from other more successful trolls
More indie garbage. Yeah, you're welcome to it. PC gamer here by the way.
and now a console gamer
You can't read? Is this why you had to change your idiot thread title?
PC AND console gamer I can afford more than one system to play games on and I love games unlike you who is just in love with his hardware, that's where we differ.
I didn't put an expensive PC together to waste my time on garbage indie games, that's another area we differ in, assuming you even have a fucking decent PC which actually I doubt.
The Witcher 3 is an indie game. Would you consider it garbage? What about Grim Dawn?
It is really your lose missing out on great games because of you think the amount you spent on your PC matters to the developers of those games.
Super Meat Boy, Sonicmania, Pillars of Eternity, Half Life 2 and dozens of other great indie games don't give a shit about the cost of your PC. If all you had was a $2000 PC and no consoles would you not play these games? Your clearly pretentious, and since I'm sure your going to come back and try and be an ass, clearly understand that majority of PC and console gamers think your a retard and that your opinion doesn't matter. You can take your copy and paste triple A games, I'll take strong game play, fun, risk taking and boundary pushing games. Graphics aren't everything, it is all about the game play and that is what PC has over every console.
Time to pull your head out of your ass.
Whatever reply you post I'm sure will be full of asinine drivel.
Your post is what happens when a complete idiot reads ONE post on a thread and replies to it in a fit of rage instead of reading all the replies on the thread before posting.
The cost of my PC has absolutely nothing to do with anything. Witcher 3, Half Life 2, Pillars of Eternity... I've played all of these games. Not a single one of them is pure trash in 2D trying to 'emulate' what I played on console 20 years ago.
I already listed games I'm playing or have queued up to play that could never be described as AAA but as you're an ignorant asshole who doesn't even read the posts in the thread he's replying to you missed it.
Finally, I own consoles for exclusives I don't play games exclusively on PC I explained that also but hey you missed that too because wait.... did I mention you're a fucking idiot?
Please burn your keyboard so nobody has to endure your illiterate puerile nonsense in the future, thanks.
Hahaha! Dat butthurt, it just oozes out of that magnificent post you just made. Thank you, the beggar race always brings the sweetest of tears.
beggar race , hermit , butthurt , srsly do you have anything real to add to this conversation ?
nah he has one argument then when you counter it, he ignores that and just resorts to name calling and the same tired phrases.
I'm not sure how old he is, but his mental age is that of a child.
Look at that elitist attitude, mr 9000 posts that still is on system wars after 10 years, oh wow you surely do not have the mental age of a child. LMFAO! Typical hypocrite hermit behaviour.
what the F does post count have to do with anything at all even remotely?
Seems like I hit a snare with this one...
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