TOTAL ASSETS Microsoft VS Sony.

This isn't Company Wars, it's System Wars.

This point is obvious, and irrelevant.

and why does this matter?Tjeremiah1988

This isn't Company Wars, it's System Wars.

This point is obvious, and irrelevant.

-Traveller-

point being??

hmm...

this has nothing to do with the PS3 or 360.

hmm...

this has nothing to do with the PS3 or 360.

Sword-Demon

hmm...

this has nothing to do with the PS3 or 360.

hmm...

this has nothing to do with the PS3 or 360.

Sony has alot of divisions, MS has two or three.

Totally

Fair

I can make one notable differentiation. Sony sells a plethora of hardware devices form tv's to game consoles to stereosect.......Microsoft sells, primarily, software. The profitability for software, I think, should be far higher than that of "hardware"; ie Sony's first party games which they make the highest profit on. So, while Sony may be worth more they are selling a lot more items. Microsoft is selling intellectual property, for the most part, excluding zune and xbox and a few other gadgets. This is a very big difference. Sony must do R&D, like microsoft,then assemble an item, then store an item, then ship an item to a retailer and pay people to do all of the aforementioned. Microsoft primalrily does R&D and sells information on a form of media (excluding Xbox and Zune and a few others). I would be willing to bet, overall as a company, Microsoft will show much higher profits while grossing less sales than Sony. Onceone has information in a scaleable format, how much does it cost to keep manufacturing said information on an inexpensive piece of media?

determing the value of a corporation via its assets is probably the last way anyone would go by to find out its value, unless of course the company is being liquidated then that would make sense.

CURRENT MARKET CAP stats show MS at 180billion, and sony at 28billion.

PLEASE STOP POSTING

determing the value of a corporation via its assets is probably the last way anyone would go by to find out its value, unless of course the company is being liquidated then that would make sense.

CURRENT MARKET CAP stats show MS at 180billion, and sony at 28billion.

PLEASE STOP POSTING

Fizzman

Agreed, and ownage aproved I guess.

[QUOTE="600pc"]SONY: Total assets ▲ US$ 200 Billion (2009) 2 trillion y Total equity ▲ US$ 50 Billion (2009) Employees 180,500 (as of March 2008) MICROSOFT:Total assets ▲ US$ 72.793 billion (2008) Total equity ▲ US$ 36.286 billion (2008) Employees 89,809 in 105 countries (2008) (wikipedia MS,Sony) im tired of the fake market capital comparison.farrell2k

Sony (SNE) Market Cap. $26B

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=sne&=

Microsoft (MSFT) Market Cap. $179B

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=msft&=

That looks about 7x more than sony.

[QUOTE="farrell2k"]

[QUOTE="600pc"]SONY: Total assets ▲ US$ 200 Billion (2009) 2 trillion y Total equity ▲ US$ 50 Billion (2009) Employees 180,500 (as of March 2008) MICROSOFT:Total assets ▲ US$ 72.793 billion (2008) Total equity ▲ US$ 36.286 billion (2008) Employees 89,809 in 105 countries (2008) (wikipedia MS,Sony) im tired of the fake market capital comparison.Burning_Sun

Sony (SNE) Market Cap. $26B

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=sne&=

Microsoft (MSFT) Market Cap. $179B

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=msft&=

That looks about 7x more than sony.

Ummm tangible assets definitely can turn to nothing. Movie A does horrible, and therefore if Sony tries to sell the rights to that asset noone buys it. You cant use Assets as a good indicator for value of a company because until the company sells that asset its worthless. Market cap is determined by how a company is performing which is an excellent way to determine value. Yes it can disappear overnight if lets say a company's latest product or Asset bombs.... Its why MS is worth so much because MS has been meeting or beating its expectations for 23+ years with this being its 1st quarter where revenues didnt increase.

SONY: Total assets ▲ US$ 200 Billion (2009) 2 trillion y Total equity ▲ US$ 50 Billion (2009) Employees 180,500 (as of March 2008) MICROSOFT:Total assets ▲ US$ 72.793 billion (2008) Total equity ▲ US$ 36.286 billion (2008) Employees 89,809 in 105 countries (2008) (wikipedia MS,Sony) im tired of the fake market capital comparison.600pc

hmm...

this has nothing to do with the PS3 or 360.

Sword-Demon

Its safe to say that we wont be seeing the OP again in this thread. Im sure he will make another one soon enough though that makes less sense then this thread.

sony is a larger company then micorsot.................end of story!!!!

[QUOTE="Burning_Sun"]

[QUOTE="farrell2k"]

Sony (SNE) Market Cap. $26B

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=sne&=

Microsoft (MSFT) Market Cap. $179B

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=msft&=

That looks about 7x more than sony.

farrell2k

Assets are also subject to depreciation. You make no sense. Sony's market cap is only $26B. As such, their total approximate net worth is only $26B. You make no sense.

[QUOTE="Burning_Sun"]

[QUOTE="farrell2k"]

Sony (SNE) Market Cap. $26B

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=sne&=

Microsoft (MSFT) Market Cap. $179B

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=msft&=

That looks about 7x more than sony.

farrell2k

Assets are also subject to depreciation. You make no sense. Sony's market cap is only $26B. As such, their total approximate net worth is only $26B. You make no sense.

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

determing the value of a corporation via its assets is probably the last way anyone would go by to find out its value, unless of course the company is being liquidated then that would make sense.

CURRENT MARKET CAP stats show MS at 180billion, and sony at 28billion.

PLEASE STOP POSTING

teufelherz

Agreed, and ownage aproved I guess.

[QUOTE="teufelherz"]

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

determing the value of a corporation via its assets is probably the last way anyone would go by to find out its value, unless of course the company is being liquidated then that would make sense.

CURRENT MARKET CAP stats show MS at 180billion, and sony at 28billion.

PLEASE STOP POSTING

-Ichigo1987-

Agreed, and ownage aproved I guess.

wikipedia... ? really?? :? isn't that like quoting vgcharts or something?

Lets put aside the fact that microsoft is listed number 25 on forbes ( a credible source) on the list of the 2000 biggest world companies and sony 86 or something like that why does it even matter? Isnt it enough already that you fight over the sales of consoles and games? Now you have to fight which is the bigger company? what does that have to do with gaming? sometimes i wonder if microsoft and sony are using brainwashed tactics from the thinks i read in system wars?

If MS were to disappear today, the computer industry would be plunged into chaos - it's the cornerstone of the PC world, and the PC world as we know it would cease to exist without it. If Sony were to disappear today, there would be dozens of other hardware makers and movie studios there to take their place. MS has less in tangible assets, but has so much market capital, and makes so much more money, because it's simply a *way* more important and influential company.Shafftehr

Windows is the worst OS on earth but MS keeping it the market leader with their money there is dozens of better OSs and cheaper but they are unnoticed because they are not getting the support from other companies.

More importantly one of the companies posted profit in last year.user_nat

[QUOTE="teufelherz"]

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

determing the value of a corporation via its assets is probably the last way anyone would go by to find out its value, unless of course the company is being liquidated then that would make sense.

CURRENT MARKET CAP stats show MS at 180billion, and sony at 28billion.

PLEASE STOP POSTING

-Ichigo1987-

Agreed, and ownage aproved I guess.

SONY: Total assets ▲ US$ 200 Billion (2009) 2 trillion y Total equity ▲ US$ 50 Billion (2009) Employees 180,500 (as of March 2008) MICROSOFT:Total assets ▲ US$ 72.793 billion (2008) Total equity ▲ US$ 36.286 billion (2008) Employees 89,809 in 105 countries (2008) (wikipedia MS,Sony) im tired of the fake market capital comparison.600pc

SONY: Total assets ▲ US$ 200 Billion (2009) 2 trillion y Total equity ▲ US$ 50 Billion (2009) Employees 180,500 (as of March 2008) MICROSOFT:Total assets ▲ US$ 72.793 billion (2008) Total equity ▲ US$ 36.286 billion (2008) Employees 89,809 in 105 countries (2008) (wikipedia MS,Sony) im tired of the fake market capital comparison.600pc

And I think Wikipedia is wrong because I am looking at Microsoft on Nasdaq and the Sony Corporation on the New York Stock Exchange and:

Microsoft:

Market Cap/Value: $179,950,000,000

Sony:

Market Cap/Value: $26,570,000,000

If I were you I wouldn't use wikipedia as a place to get stock quotes lol...

ALL publicly traded companies are measured in Market Capitalization, which is share price multiplied by the number of shares. Microsoft has almost 10x the shares that Sony does (hard assets) and sony has more liquid assets (electronic devices). This is why we see sony's revenues so high, because they deal in liquid assets that are always changing hands and being sold. Stocks, and investments arent, they are long term investments, so money doesnt change hands nearly as often. As of today, the MARKET CAP of each company is as follows.......

MICROSOFT 179.95 Billion

SONY 26.57 Billion

If MS were to disappear today, the computer industry would be plunged into chaos - it's the cornerstone of the PC world, and the PC world as we know it would cease to exist without it. If Sony were to disappear today, there would be dozens of other hardware makers and movie studios there to take their place. MS has less in tangible assets, but has so much market capital, and makes so much more money, because it's simply a *way* more important and influential company.Shafftehr

Not really. OSX will just take over. The reason windows is successful is because it's simple, user friendly and has some idiot blocks built in. OSX is very close to windows so they will just get the entire market.

[QUOTE="Shafftehr"]If MS were to disappear today, the computer industry would be plunged into chaos - it's the cornerstone of the PC world, and the PC world as we know it would cease to exist without it. If Sony were to disappear today, there would be dozens of other hardware makers and movie studios there to take their place. MS has less in tangible assets, but has so much market capital, and makes so much more money, because it's simply a *way* more important and influential company.Espada12

Not really. OSX will just take over. The reason windows is successful is because it's simple, user friendly and has some idiot blocks built in. OSX is very close to windows so they will just get the entire market.

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="Shafftehr"]If MS were to disappear today, the computer industry would be plunged into chaos - it's the cornerstone of the PC world, and the PC world as we know it would cease to exist without it. If Sony were to disappear today, there would be dozens of other hardware makers and movie studios there to take their place. MS has less in tangible assets, but has so much market capital, and makes so much more money, because it's simply a *way* more important and influential company.SpruceCaboose

Not really. OSX will just take over. The reason windows is successful is because it's simple, user friendly and has some idiot blocks built in. OSX is very close to windows so they will just get the entire market.

Yea there would be problems for a couple months until everything gets settled down and OSX can replace windows.

Yea there would be problems for a couple months until everything gets settled down and OSX can replace windows.

Espada12

How can people argue and try and rationalize differently? MS is way bigger than Sony - there is no denying or changing this.

Any really, wiki as a source? You might as well said "some guy in my math class told me", it would hold as much rationality. :roll:

[QUOTE="Shattered007"][QUOTE="600pc"] yes delete this please! it shows how big sony really is.600pc

Yea there would be problems for a couple months until everything gets settled down and OSX can replace windows.