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#51 TintedEyes
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[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]This isn't the first time 360 owners played the beta.DeadMagazines
This isn't the first time ps3 owners paid $60 for year old ports of games that are irrelevant come 2nd release.

Irrelevant? The sales of the game say different, and I'll gladly wait a year If I get extra features along with it.
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#52 GulliversTravel
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[QUOTE="Console_Gamer93"]

[QUOTE="GulliversTravel"][QUOTE="Console_Gamer93"]

I don't agree with those that call the 360 version a beta.

But i am happy that the company making ToV gave a big ____ you to microsoft. Using the money they got for keeping it timed exclusive and pulling characters in the original xbox release for known/planned characters later on is pretty funny.

Once again not funny for 360 gamers who didn't get those extras but very funny to see microsoft's plan back fire.

How did it backfire, the 360 game is still excellent and MS profited from the boost they got in Japan.

Well if the release of it in Japan after a couple of days is catching up to the total sales of the 360 version i would call that a backfire.

And i don't know if you read my post but i never said the 360 version isn't exellent..."I don't agree with those that call the 360 version a beta." because like others have mentioned they invested up to 50 hours into the game.

I still dont get you. ToV release had given the 360 a lot of momentum in Japan, and its sold well there by any means, its not far being ToS2 on the Wii.
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#53 Swift_Boss_A
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Thank-you catain obvious :P JRPG's clearly are more popular on PS3, only reason 360 gets some exclusive is because MS pays for them otherwise no developer in their right mind would make a JRPG exclusive to 360.
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#54 Hiroshi_Ichirou
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[QUOTE="Hiroshi_Ichirou"][QUOTE="gamer-adam1"]

Cows should play a BETA for once in there life. Betas dont ADD extra content, i've played TONS of betas, betas is only to fix errors.

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That's what they did, they fixed the error of not having the content that should have been in the original release, by putting it in the complete PlayStation 3 version.

It seems more to me like they took out content from the 360 version to later release it on the PS3 version since Sony required extra content for the delays (the pictures shown clearly point out to the existance of more characters since the 360 version). It is a very low thing to do but lemmings should blame MS for thinking they can buy themselves to the top with this timed exclusivity crap.

You think its low? They deserved it, they let Microsoft buy out a exclusive, thinking they could get all their money from Microsoft. Then as soon as they wake up and release it on PlayStation 3, it over sales the Xbox 360 versions in Japan, in one day. You make it seem like they didn't deserve it, even after another company decided they were going to release a game that was supposed to be for PlayStation 3 only and downgrade it so it can be on Xbox 360. Causing the game to have import things removed permanently, the only benefit from all this, is now we will have a better English translation.
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#56 Console_Gamer93
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Thank-you catain obvious :P JRPG's clearly are more popular on PS3, only reason 360 gets some exclusive is because MS pays for them otherwise no developer in their right mind would make a JRPG exclusive to 360.Swift_Boss_A

Lol if thats directed to me i have on last thing to say: irony look it up :P

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[QUOTE="Hiroshi_Ichirou"][QUOTE="RedruM_I"][QUOTE="Hiroshi_Ichirou"] That's what they did, they fixed the error of not having the content that should have been in the original release, by putting it in the complete PlayStation 3 version.

It seems more to me like they took out content from the 360 version to later release it on the PS3 version since Sony required extra content for the delays (the pictures shown clearly point out to the existance of more characters since the 360 version). It is a very low thing to do but lemmings should blame MS for thinking they can buy themselves to the top with this timed exclusivity crap.

You think its low? They deserved it, they let Microsoft buy out a exclusive, thinking they could get all their money from Microsoft. Then as soon as they wake up and release it on PlayStation 3, it over sales the Xbox 360 versions in Japan, in one day. You make it seem like they didn't deserve it, even after another company decided they were going to release a game that was supposed to be for PlayStation 3 only and downgrade it so it can be on Xbox 360. Causing the game to have import things removed permanently, the only benefit from all this, is now we will have a better English translation.

I thought it was pretty obvious that a PS3 would have better sales with JRPGs than an Xbox 360 would with the same game, especially in Japan. There was nothing REMOVED- actually. There were only things ADDED to the PS3 version, things that they had the time to complete for the final game. So the game was not 'downgraded' for the Xbox 360. You also claim that these 'important' things were fully removed- but the Xbox 360 version of the game was able to stand on it's own without all of these extras and did have some great reviews for it. Maybe I can start caring, once it's announced for the US.
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#58 black_tempest
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[QUOTE="Richymisiak"]awful awful game Absolutely hated itheretrix

Same here. Why someone would use such a lame game as ownage is beyond me.

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not good, just sounds like you're trying to defend the 360.
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[QUOTE="akai_reaver"][QUOTE="Hiroshi_Ichirou"][QUOTE="RedruM_I"] It seems more to me like they took out content from the 360 version to later release it on the PS3 version since Sony required extra content for the delays (the pictures shown clearly point out to the existance of more characters since the 360 version). It is a very low thing to do but lemmings should blame MS for thinking they can buy themselves to the top with this timed exclusivity crap.

You think its low? They deserved it, they let Microsoft buy out a exclusive, thinking they could get all their money from Microsoft. Then as soon as they wake up and release it on PlayStation 3, it over sales the Xbox 360 versions in Japan, in one day. You make it seem like they didn't deserve it, even after another company decided they were going to release a game that was supposed to be for PlayStation 3 only and downgrade it so it can be on Xbox 360. Causing the game to have import things removed permanently, the only benefit from all this, is now we will have a better English translation.

I thought it was pretty obvious that a PS3 would have better sales with JRPGs than an Xbox 360 would with the same game, especially in Japan. There was nothing REMOVED- actually. There were only things ADDED to the PS3 version, things that they had the time to complete for the final game. So the game was not 'downgraded' for the Xbox 360. You also claim that these 'important' things were fully removed- but the Xbox 360 version of the game was able to stand on it's own without all of these extras and did have some great reviews for it. Maybe I can start caring, once it's announced for the US.

So how about this--Microsoft starts insisting that the added stuff be backported into the 360 version and made available by a downloadable update (and no, you can't say it's impossible to incorporate since you had those "placeholders" already in the game). And they will do this for any future 360-bound titles. And if you don't like it, don't expect any more money from us, which means no more springboard to your PS3 version.
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well the ps3 is the best for rpg

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#61 The__Havoc
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Well the PS3 userbase is growing at a much larger rate in Japan then the 360 what did you expect?

Have fun wth your extra's. By the time this game comes out the 360 version will be dirt cheap. I hope all that extra content is worth paying $60 when you can get it on 360 for probably $30 or less. So essentially you're paying around $30 for this extra content aren't you?

But if this is your only option to get this game then get it. I played it already and its good.

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#62 dawso0n
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if the ps3 version has the same ending as the xbox then the game still sucks hard...

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#63 hot114
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I still dont get you. ToV release had given the 360 a lot of momentum in Japan, and its sold well there by any means, its not far being ToS2 on the Wii.GulliversTravel

To put it in interweb terms: 2 x nothing = still nothing
It may have boosted the xboxes sales but just the fact that its lifetime sales were outdone within the first week shows how bad the 360 is doing.

If you bother reading page 2 you will see the beta calling is grounded and justified. (content was whitheld from the 360 game - THE PROOF IS ON YOUR 360 DISC- content but not unplayable, for the sake of PS3's complete edition)

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Really the first time I would expect for a PS3 game to sell... remember how ODST sold more in 24 hours then KZ2 did in its lifetime? :lol:

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#65 Hiroshi_Ichirou
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Really the first time I would expect for a PS3 game to sell... remember how ODST sold more in 24 hours then KZ2 did in its lifetime? :lol:

bobcheeseball
キルゾーン2、 For the win and sales mean nothing. How do sales determine what is better, stuff is only better based off peoples individual opinion.
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#66 hot114
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360 Disc:

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#67 Hiroshi_Ichirou
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Thank you, now people have solid proof as to why it was technically considered a beta.

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#68 SilverChimera
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[QUOTE="Richymisiak"]awful awful game Absolutely hated itheretrix

Same here. Why someone would use such a lame game as ownage is beyond me.

because it was a "good" game before it went multiplat.
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="Richymisiak"]awful awful game Absolutely hated itblack_tempest

Same here. Why someone would use such a lame game as ownage is beyond me.

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not good, just sounds like you're trying to defend the 360.

No, it sounds like I thought the game was lame. Just like I said. Don't try to read into something that isn't there.

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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="Richymisiak"]awful awful game Absolutely hated itSilverChimera

Same here. Why someone would use such a lame game as ownage is beyond me.

because it was a "good" game before it went multiplat.

Whatever. I've always thought the entire tales series was lame. Persona, it is not.

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#71 LemmingReborn
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wow we 360 owners dont get a thank you for beta testing for u cows? wow u guys are so inconsiderate
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#72 Hiroshi_Ichirou
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[QUOTE="black_tempest"][QUOTE="heretrix"]Same here. Why someone would use such a lame game as ownage is beyond me.

heretrix

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not good, just sounds like you're trying to defend the 360.

No, it sounds like I thought the game was lame. Just like I said. Don't try to read into something that isn't there.

I think more people should disagree with your comment.
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#73 DeadMagazines
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Thank you, now people have solid proof as to why it was technically considered a beta.

Hiroshi_Ichirou
nah, you're just getting more sloppy seconds and gladly pay full price for year old ports. Keep saying "beta" though, it helps your argument so much.
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Thank you, now people have solid proof as to why it was technically considered a beta.

Hiroshi_Ichirou

Only if you are a fanboy.

Technically to be considered a beta it would have to bein thepre-release stage, and it been a YEAR since ToV came out. The PS3 version (that may not come out over here), needed the extra stuff because if it is the same gameas the 360 version and has no extra stuff you'll have a $60 game vs a $28(on Amazon)game

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[QUOTE="Hiroshi_Ichirou"]

Thank you, now people have solid proof as to why it was technically considered a beta.

Chaos_HL21

Only if you are a fanboy.

Technically to be considered a beta it would have to bein thepre-release stage, and it been a YEAR since ToV came out. The PS3 version (that may not come out over here), needed the extra stuff because if it is the same gameas the 360 version and has no extra stuff you'll have a $60 game vs a $28(on Amazon)game

Hopefully it doesn't make it over here.
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#76 SilverChimera
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[QUOTE="SilverChimera"][QUOTE="heretrix"]Same here. Why someone would use such a lame game as ownage is beyond me.

heretrix

because it was a "good" game before it went multiplat.

Whatever. I've always thought the entire tales series was lame. Persona, it is not.

eh. I thought it was a decent looking game. Might check this out if it comes to US or EU
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#77 Hiroshi_Ichirou
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="SilverChimera"] because it was a "good" game before it went multiplat. SilverChimera

Whatever. I've always thought the entire tales series was lame. Persona, it is not.

eh. I thought it was a decent looking game. Might check this out if it comes to US or EU

But hopefully it doesn't come to the United States or Europe.
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[QUOTE="Hiroshi_Ichirou"]

Thank you, now people have solid proof as to why it was technically considered a beta.

DeadMagazines
nah, you're just getting more sloppy seconds and gladly pay full price for year old ports. Keep saying "beta" though, it helps your argument so much.

How is it sloppy seconds if we are getting the better version?
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#79 Hiroshi_Ichirou
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[QUOTE="DeadMagazines"][QUOTE="Hiroshi_Ichirou"]

Thank you, now people have solid proof as to why it was technically considered a beta.

TintedEyes
nah, you're just getting more sloppy seconds and gladly pay full price for year old ports. Keep saying "beta" though, it helps your argument so much.

How is it sloppy seconds if we are getting the better version?

Don't feed the trolls, let them starve.
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#80 SilverChimera
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[QUOTE="SilverChimera"][QUOTE="heretrix"]Whatever. I've always thought the entire tales series was lame. Persona, it is not.

Hiroshi_Ichirou

eh. I thought it was a decent looking game. Might check this out if it comes to US or EU

But hopefully it doesn't come to the United States or Europe.

why not?

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[QUOTE="Hiroshi_Ichirou"][QUOTE="SilverChimera"] eh. I thought it was a decent looking game. Might check this out if it comes to US or EUSilverChimera

But hopefully it doesn't come to the United States or Europe.

why not?

Hopefully if it gets released outside Japan, someone releases a patch so that it only displays in Japanese audio/text, that way people can't understand the story.
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#82 HuusAsking
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[QUOTE="Hiroshi_Ichirou"]

Thank you, now people have solid proof as to why it was technically considered a beta.

Chaos_HL21

Only if you are a fanboy.

Technically to be considered a beta it would have to bein thepre-release stage, and it been a YEAR since ToV came out. The PS3 version (that may not come out over here), needed the extra stuff because if it is the same gameas the 360 version and has no extra stuff you'll have a $60 game vs a $28(on Amazon)game

Still, I wonder what would happen if Microsoft turns around and insists on a DLC backport?
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#83 Hiroshi_Ichirou
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[QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]

[QUOTE="Hiroshi_Ichirou"]

Thank you, now people have solid proof as to why it was technically considered a beta.

HuusAsking

Only if you are a fanboy.

Technically to be considered a beta it would have to bein thepre-release stage, and it been a YEAR since ToV came out. The PS3 version (that may not come out over here), needed the extra stuff because if it is the same gameas the 360 version and has no extra stuff you'll have a $60 game vs a $28(on Amazon)game

Still, I wonder what would happen if Microsoft turns around and insists on a DLC backport?

Nothing would happen, the PlayStation 3 version would still do better in Japan. I don't expect the PlayStation 3 version to do well here and hopefully it doesn't get released outside Japan any ways, its not like it would get more credit over here.
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#84 HuusAsking
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[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]

Only if you are a fanboy.

Technically to be considered a beta it would have to bein thepre-release stage, and it been a YEAR since ToV came out. The PS3 version (that may not come out over here), needed the extra stuff because if it is the same gameas the 360 version and has no extra stuff you'll have a $60 game vs a $28(on Amazon)game

Hiroshi_Ichirou

Still, I wonder what would happen if Microsoft turns around and insists on a DLC backport?

Nothing would happen, the PlayStation 3 version would still do better in Japan. I don't expect the PlayStation 3 version to do well here and hopefully it doesn't get released outside Japan any ways, its not like it would get more credit over here.

Oh? What if Microsoft adds on, "...or no more money for your games. There goes your PS3 springboards."