trophies vs gamerscore... achivs win

Negative. Trophies are much better. They break it down more as opposed to just total points as a whole. But who cares, just play the game. It really bugs me how people get so cought up in earning trophies and achievements...

I have MGS4 and I havent got any so called trophies, why is it.....And I have to agree Achievements are so much fun and gives extra replay value to games

The numbers are pointless, none more so than psn level. I don't care what someones gamerscore or trophy count is if it's heavily padded with easy games anyway. It can take longer to get a singleaward in a AAA game than it takes to get every singleone in alot of simpler games. Both systems work pretty well thoughand add a new perspective to games for a lot of people.

Trophies make that awesome noise whenever you get one. So to me there better then achievements.

Trophies give more info. For instance my gamer score of 1025 is from a few games, and doesn't give an indicator if i did something hard like trophies do with the different rankings. Bronze are easy, Silver means you have to purposely do it and gold means you have gone out of your way (excluding games like Terminator Salvation)

That and all 360 games have achievements.

2-10-08

Achievement gives you a number and that's it, trophys gives me a better sense of what I've done. The only gripe I have about trophys is that the earlier games don't support it, even multiplats that had achievements on 360.

I rather have a trophy than a number. :D

They weren't prepared with PSN, either. The reason they didn't have time for this is because they had to think about a centralized Playstation internet system before anything else. If PSN had been around for 5 years more maybe they would have time to think about these things. We haven't even had Playstation Store that long. Achievements are solid, but that should be obvious considering they've had longer to think about them.

AndyAlfredo

I'm not disagreeing with you that they weren't prepared. It's painfully obvious that they weren't. The fact the PSN wasn't around last gen isn't an acceptable excuse. Sony had plenty of time to observe and emulate XBL and come up with their own ideas. Simple fact is that they chose not to.

At the end of the day, the reasons don't matter. What matters is the end-result. That end-result is that all 360 games, both retail and arcade have achievements, day 1. PS3 games don't. It's highly unlikely that this will ever change.

Alot can be said about forethought.

[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

Trophies are great on paper, but achievements are seamless and much better implemented.

Achievements are in every single retail game AND arcade game. Guaranteed. Not so with PS3 games. Looks like this difference will always be in place.

Achievements are auto-updated and the data is publicly available. Trophies require a synch process and to update your Portable ID, you have to go to Playstation.com and hit a button.

finalfantasy94

Its kinda silly to use that against trophies since it didint go into madentory effect till 09. It just makes people look silly saying "well its 2010 and ps3 games from 06/07 still dont have trophies" Well no freaking duh it didint exist.Also its not hard or long to synch trophies. Press X on trophy button and thats it. Your making it seems much more harder then it is.

The point is that it's an extra step that Sony hasn't automated for some odd reason. Not only that, it's only part of the process. Updating your portable ID isn't even done on the console. You have to hop off your PS3, get on your PC, log into the Playstion.com site and click a button. The implementation is all a little hackneyed. Achievements, all you have to do is earn them. That's it. Everything else just happens automatically.

I like trophies better, but I wish they were standard

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

Trophies are great on paper, but achievements are seamless and much better implemented.

Achievements are in every single retail game AND arcade game. Guaranteed. Not so with PS3 games. Looks like this difference will always be in place.

Achievements are auto-updated and the data is publicly available. Trophies require a synch process and to update your Portable ID, you have to go to Playstation.com and hit a button.

VoodooHak

Its kinda silly to use that against trophies since it didint go into madentory effect till 09. It just makes people look silly saying "well its 2010 and ps3 games from 06/07 still dont have trophies" Well no freaking duh it didint exist.Also its not hard or long to synch trophies. Press X on trophy button and thats it. Your making it seems much more harder then it is.

The point is that it's an extra step that Sony hasn't automated for some odd reason. Not only that, it's only part of the process. Updating your portable ID isn't even done on the console. You have to hop off your PS3, get on your PC, log into the Playstion.com site and click a button. The implementation is all a little hackneyed. Achievements, all you have to do is earn them. That's it. Everything else just happens automatically.

Does it matter? Portable ID are more for bord users if anything thats about it. So its not a huge deal. Again your making a big deal out of nothing.

Achievement gives you a number and that's it, trophys gives me a better sense of what I've done. The only gripe I have about trophys is that the earlier games don't support it, even multiplats that had achievements on 360.

Gxgear

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

Trophies are great on paper, but achievements are seamless and much better implemented.

Achievements are in every single retail game AND arcade game. Guaranteed. Not so with PS3 games. Looks like this difference will always be in place.

Achievements are auto-updated and the data is publicly available. Trophies require a synch process and to update your Portable ID, you have to go to Playstation.com and hit a button.

VoodooHak

Its kinda silly to use that against trophies since it didint go into madentory effect till 09. It just makes people look silly saying "well its 2010 and ps3 games from 06/07 still dont have trophies" Well no freaking duh it didint exist.Also its not hard or long to synch trophies. Press X on trophy button and thats it. Your making it seems much more harder then it is.

The point is that it's an extra step that Sony hasn't automated for some odd reason. Not only that, it's only part of the process. Updating your portable ID isn't even done on the console. You have to hop off your PS3, get on your PC, log into the Playstion.com site and click a button. The implementation is all a little hackneyed. Achievements, all you have to do is earn them. That's it. Everything else just happens automatically.

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

Trophies are great on paper, but achievements are seamless and much better implemented.

Achievements are in every single retail game AND arcade game. Guaranteed. Not so with PS3 games. Looks like this difference will always be in place.

Achievements are auto-updated and the data is publicly available. Trophies require a synch process and to update your Portable ID, you have to go to Playstation.com and hit a button.

VoodooHak

Its kinda silly to use that against trophies since it didint go into madentory effect till 09. It just makes people look silly saying "well its 2010 and ps3 games from 06/07 still dont have trophies" Well no freaking duh it didint exist.Also its not hard or long to synch trophies. Press X on trophy button and thats it. Your making it seems much more harder then it is.

The point is that it's an extra step that Sony hasn't automated for some odd reason. Not only that, it's only part of the process. Updating your portable ID isn't even done on the console. You have to hop off your PS3, get on your PC, log into the Playstion.com site and click a button. The implementation is all a little hackneyed. Achievements, all you have to do is earn them. That's it. Everything else just happens automatically.

[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

Its kinda silly to use that against trophies since it didint go into madentory effect till 09. It just makes people look silly saying "well its 2010 and ps3 games from 06/07 still dont have trophies" Well no freaking duh it didint exist.Also its not hard or long to synch trophies. Press X on trophy button and thats it. Your making it seems much more harder then it is.

finalfantasy94

The point is that it's an extra step that Sony hasn't automated for some odd reason. Not only that, it's only part of the process. Updating your portable ID isn't even done on the console. You have to hop off your PS3, get on your PC, log into the Playstion.com site and click a button. The implementation is all a little hackneyed. Achievements, all you have to do is earn them. That's it. Everything else just happens automatically.

Does it matter? Portable ID are more for bord users if anything thats about it. So its not a huge deal. Again your making a big deal out of nothing.

[QUOTE="bobcheeseball"]

Acheivements are much better enforced and trophies are shameless rip-offs. But aside from that I dont think it really matters too much.

finalfantasy94

They are the same thing:|. Only a fanboy or just plan hater would think one is better then the other.

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

The point is that it's an extra step that Sony hasn't automated for some odd reason. Not only that, it's only part of the process. Updating your portable ID isn't even done on the console. You have to hop off your PS3, get on your PC, log into the Playstion.com site and click a button. The implementation is all a little hackneyed. Achievements, all you have to do is earn them. That's it. Everything else just happens automatically.

VoodooHak

Does it matter? Portable ID are more for bord users if anything thats about it. So its not a huge deal. Again your making a big deal out of nothing.

Your acting like its hands over fist better when in reality its not. In my eyes its still the same dam thing. So cause I gatta go to a website that takes all of 60 seconds and click a button to update the card for forms its a huge deal? Oh and pressing x on my ps3 to sync my trophies that takes about 5 seconds is really hard work. I mean come on man it doesint make achivements better. Its still the same dam thing.

[QUOTE="VoodooHak"]

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

Its kinda silly to use that against trophies since it didint go into madentory effect till 09. It just makes people look silly saying "well its 2010 and ps3 games from 06/07 still dont have trophies" Well no freaking duh it didint exist.Also its not hard or long to synch trophies. Press X on trophy button and thats it. Your making it seems much more harder then it is.

Midnightshade29

The point is that it's an extra step that Sony hasn't automated for some odd reason. Not only that, it's only part of the process. Updating your portable ID isn't even done on the console. You have to hop off your PS3, get on your PC, log into the Playstion.com site and click a button. The implementation is all a little hackneyed. Achievements, all you have to do is earn them. That's it. Everything else just happens automatically.

That's part of my point. You have to view your trophies to synch them. Like I said. Devil's in the details. Kinda like the way that sites like MMOS requires a fee to update your trophies several times a day. It's little details like this that, after time, pile up and become annoying.

[QUOTE="VoodooHak"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

Does it matter? Portable ID are more for bord users if anything thats about it. So its not a huge deal. Again your making a big deal out of nothing.

finalfantasy94

Your acting like its hands over fist better when in reality its not. In my eyes its still the same dam thing. So cause I gatta go to a website that takes all of 60 seconds and click a button to update the card for forms its a huge deal? Oh and pressing x on my ps3 to sync my trophies that takes about 5 seconds is really hard work. I mean come on man it doesint make achivements better. Its still the same dam thing.

Hand over fist? Hardly. If that's the way you took it, that's all on you. Why do people here think in such extreme terms?

No, it's not really hard work. It's just an annoyance that tips the scales in favor of achievements.

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="VoodooHak"] What good are these things if you can't share them as much as you want? Why tether it to the console? If you allow it on the web, why make only a half effort? But ok. You can minimize the issue, but at the end of the day, achievements are implemented better.VoodooHak

Your acting like its hands over fist better when in reality its not. In my eyes its still the same dam thing. So cause I gatta go to a website that takes all of 60 seconds and click a button to update the card for forms its a huge deal? Oh and pressing x on my ps3 to sync my trophies that takes about 5 seconds is really hard work. I mean come on man it doesint make achivements better. Its still the same dam thing.

Hand over fist? Hardly. If that's the way you took, it then that's all on you.

No, it's not really hard work. It's just an annoyance that tips the scales in favor achievements.

I guess we have just different outlooks on annoyance. The trophy thing doesint bug me at all.

[QUOTE="VoodooHak"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

Does it matter? Portable ID are more for bord users if anything thats about it. So its not a huge deal. Again your making a big deal out of nothing.

finalfantasy94

Your acting like its hands over fist better when in reality its not. In my eyes its still the same dam thing. So cause I gatta go to a website that takes all of 60 seconds and click a button to update the card for forms its a huge deal? Oh and pressing x on my ps3 to sync my trophies that takes about 5 seconds is really hard work. I mean come on man it doesint make achivements better. Its still the same dam thing.

[QUOTE="BlackTragedy"]

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

I'm gonna file this under "not an issue" unless you want to be the World No1 trophy whore

Zaibach

im not a trophy whore i just dont like the fact that 1 trophy will only get me 0.000001 percent closer to lvin up

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

I'm gonna file this under "not an issue" unless you want to be the World No1 trophy whore

BlackTragedy

im not a trophy whore i just dont like the fact that 1 trophy will only get me 0.000001 percent closer to lvin up

you must hate rpgs?

i reckon trophies is better :P

Thank god i dont care bout trophies :D

Trophy levels don't mean anything to me. I started to prefer trophies over achievements though because getting a platinum trophy gives me a warm fuzzy feeling inside instead of just getting some more points for the gamerscore. Someone can get 100000 gamerscore by just playing 10000 games getting 10 points in each but with trophies you see on the first look how many platinum trophies one has and how dedicated he is as a gamer. In the end they are both nice to have and can extend the life of a game for me to a certain degree. I probably wouldn't have played through Resident Evil 5 4 times without them. I like collecting them but I stop caring as soon as they get ridiculous like "become #1 in the world", "kill 100000000 enemies with your pinky finger" or something like that.nethernova

Also, MGS4, the top PS3 games doesnt even have trophies which is ridiculous if you ask me.Nidget

Guys that chase points have way to much wasted time.

Same concept. You do something specific and unlock an achievement/trophy.

[QUOTE="Nidget"]Also, MGS4, the top PS3 games doesnt even have trophies which is ridiculous if you ask me.zaibutzu

They are basically the same thing.