True Or False: Gran Turismo 5 > all other console games so far (graphically)

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#1 Mystery_Writer
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^

also, is this realtime or pre-rendered?

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#2 SemiMaster
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Something tells me it wont look like that in motion.
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#3 benjaminbuckner
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nope i played grn turismo hd on a sonybravia there was a bunch of jaggies.
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#4 NFJSupreme
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false
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#5 blazinpuertoroc
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that is real time...and better looking then all other console games? no...all other racing games? Yes...very much so
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#6 Giancar
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graphics wise...

yes

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#7 -wii60-
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I take a 3D background over a static picture every day.
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#8 slikonebtz
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nope i played grn turismo hd on a sonybravia there was a bunch of jaggies.benjaminbuckner

gt5 isnt gt hd and apart from some bugs the gameplay videos ive seen look just like the trailers

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#9 BioShockOwnz
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False. Also, for those that think that screen is real, then you're in for a very rude awakening. Did any of you guys actually watch the vid that the screen showed is from? It's called a "concept" vid and it's labeled that way.
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#10 Burnout_Player0
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now lets not use pre-rendered pics ;)
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#11 dimar19
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#12 agentfred
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I take a 3D background over a static picture every day.-wii60-

Why? Even though it looks worse?

Just so you can pat yourself on the shoulder, and say, 'hey, thats 3d'? Is it really worth it for the decreased quality?

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#13 taikthebate
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lol Don't get your hopes up
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#14 danielsmith2020
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I take a 3D background over a static picture every day.-wii60-

Why? I fail to see what benefit there is to that, it may look slightly better if it is 3d but what is the point? It's a waste of resources you could be putting into making the cars and the immediate track area look better.

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#15 depresedmichfan
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i don't care because it won't compare to forza 2 in terms of gameplay (unless sony goes all out, but i don't think they did their last 2 installments, so...)
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#16 -Spock-
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That shot is real-time. They achieve graphics like that by combining HD photography with simple geometry. The Swiss Alps in Gran Turismo HD and the Grand Canyon track in Gran Turismo 4 are super examples of this technique in action. Even distant trees use similar 2D trickery. As a result they can save polygons, and the added power can then be put to good use on the main attraction: the cars.

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#17 MGS9150
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http://www.gametrailers.com/player/23942.html

Graphics like this combined with damage models, improved physics and AI, online and fully detailed car interiors make it the most realistic game i've ever seen.

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#18 legalize3
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guy with the forza pics

NO JUST NO YOU FAILED

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http://www.gametrailers.com/player/23942.html

Graphics like this combined with damage models, improved physics and AI, online and fully detailed car interiors make it the most realistic game i've ever seen.

MGS9150

big deal. you cows may have better graphics on your racing sim but we have the better game. i'm almost positive gt5 won't be as good of an overall gaming experience as fm2.

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#20 WSP87
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Dimar19 that is the biggest fanboy thing i have ever seen. NO NEED FOR ALL THOSE PICS. A couple would have sufficed to get your point across. That was a really lame move. Forza looks good and you could have gotten that reaction with 1-4 pictures.
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#21 dimar19
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guy with the forza pics

NO JUST NO YOU FAILED

legalize3

Man, I don't care about fanboys. GT 5 is GT 4 in HD. That's all.

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#22 omgimba
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The coverage of most graphic card boxes has better graphics then that..

And yes, that is a rather fair comparison..

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#23 tidus222
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LOL @ those forza pictures

GT5 looks photorealistic in that shot and makes forza 2 look last gen

still gameplay wise GT games have bumper car physics and no damage which kills the whole relaism aspect

so gameplay forza 2 >>>> GT5

graphics GT5 >>>>>> forza 2

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#24 depresedmichfan
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LOL @ those forza pictures

GT5 looks photorealistic in that shot and makes forza 2 look last gen

still gameplay wise GT games have bumper car physics and no damage which kills the whole relaism aspect

so gameplay forza 2 >>>> GT5

graphics GT5 >>>>>> forza 2

tidus222

exactly.

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#25 SambaLele
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[QUOTE="MGS9150"]

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/23942.html

Graphics like this combined with damage models, improved physics and AI, online and fully detailed car interiors make it the most realistic game i've ever seen.

depresedmichfan

big deal. you cows may have better graphics on your racing sim but we have the better game. i'm almost positive gt5 won't be as good of an overall gaming experience as fm2.

when in fact, forza has always been the game that has to catch up in terms of gameplay.

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#26 Shomb22
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True.

Put GT5 mix with the new burnout crashes. luck ya!

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#27 fixer293
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False
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#28 Dreams-Visions
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Hard to say. Could be true. It's in the upper echelon.
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#29 Nitro720
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I could agree that it could be the best looking game on a console so far. I agree.
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#30 Burnout_Player0
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[QUOTE="legalize3"]

guy with the forza pics

NO JUST NO YOU FAILED

dimar19

Man, I don't care about fanboys. GT 5 is GT 4 in HD. That's all.

nothing wrong with that ;)

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#31 ball_of_air
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guy with the forza pics

NO JUST NO YOU FAILED

legalize3

Lol at Forza's plastic graphics :lol:

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#32 depresedmichfan
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lol at gt's plastic gameplay :lol:
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#33 -wii60-
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When the background is just a Picture the rest of the stuffs will look so much better.
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#34 nmaharg
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CRYSIS!!!
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#35 AgentA-Mi6
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What we have seen of GT5 indeed PWNS all console games graphically even Gears

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#36 Dreams-Visions
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What we have seen of GT5 indeed PWNS all console games graphically even Gears

AgentA-Mi6

must agree. do we still expect this game to weigh in at 60fps?

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#37 kman3002
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:o Holy **** are those in game?!?
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#38 AgentA-Mi6
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[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]

What we have seen of GT5 indeed PWNS all console games graphically even Gears

Dreams-Visions

That and Kz2 too

must agree. do we still expect this game to weigh in at 60fps?

I bet it will and also Kz2

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#39 mruurds
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I'll wait for the retail copy to be out before I decide, but I'm sure it will look excellent and play well.

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#40 buuzer0
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Be smart.

You should really wait until this game is out before making "betta than all other console game graphicssxx" claims.

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#41 joe_g_patton
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True: yet another thread in an infinite line of threads hyping a PS3 game that is a year or two away from hitting the market.

True: PS3 developers have a history of posting amazing screenshots of upcoming games followed by the in game graphics not stacking up once the product is finished. This isn't specific to PS3 games, but we've seen a great deal of it on the PS3 side so far.

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#42 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]

What we have seen of GT5 indeed PWNS all console games graphically even Gears

AgentA-Mi6

must agree. do we still expect this game to weigh in at 60fps?

I bet it will and also Kz2

you talking about frames? KZ2 is a confirmed 30fps title.

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#43 Dreams-Visions
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Be smart.

You should really wait until this game is out before making "betta than all other console game graphicssxx" claims.

buuzer0

It's a slow day. there's no "war" in system wars if someone isn't saying something controversial.

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#44 Mystery_Writer
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That shot is real-time. They achieve graphics like that by combining HD photography with simple geometry. The Swiss Alps in Gran Turismo HD and the Grand Canyon track in Gran Turismo 4 are super examples of this technique in action. Even distant trees use similar 2D trickery. As a result they can save polygons, and the added power can then be put to good use on the main attraction: the cars.

-Spock-

Swiss Alps background is not a skybox, it's a 3D model. If you have a PS3, run GT HD, pick "time trial", select a car, press start race and you'll get to the level preview screen (don't press the flag icon) where you get to see the camera passes by the mountains which are clearly 3D models (i.e. not just a skybox 2D picture).

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#45 dimar19
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nothing wrong with that ;)Burnout_Player0

I thought Polyphony Digital would add some technology compare to PS2 game but no. Exactly same GT 4 with laughable reflections, lighting and other GT 4 stuff. But in 1080p

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#46 l-_-l
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So far Uncharted has my vote.
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#47 tango90101
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it's best to wait for the actual game before hyping it.

i remember cows posting pics of gt4 pre-launch that the final verison didn't come close to matching.

i'm thinking GT5 is the same....

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#48 tango90101
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[QUOTE="-Spock-"]

That shot is real-time. They achieve graphics like that by combining HD photography with simple geometry. The Swiss Alps in Gran Turismo HD and the Grand Canyon track in Gran Turismo 4 are super examples of this technique in action. Even distant trees use similar 2D trickery. As a result they can save polygons, and the added power can then be put to good use on the main attraction: the cars.

Mystery_Writer

Swiss Alps background is not a skybox, it's a 3D model. If you have a PS3, run GT HD, pick "time trial", select a car, press start race and you'll get to the level preview screen (don't press the flag icon) where you get to see the camera passes by the mountains which are clearly 3D models (i.e. not just a skybox 2D picture).

when you can move the camera OVER the mountain, that's when you have proof...;)

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#49 snorlaxmaster
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Over all racing games......yes. All games period........no. Simple as that, nothing more needed. ;)
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#50 puissance000
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all i can say is..Nice picture. Now show me some actual gameplay!