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Poll True Power of the PS4; Horizon's.. (82 votes)

PS4TW 39%
Meh. 45%
No Cloud, no buy. 16%

Not only Sony did brought to us the new age of facial hair via The Order's 1886 mustache..

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..but now they bring us facial hair in the new IP, Horizon: Zero Dawn.

Meet Aloy and her facial hair WITH NO CLOUD requirement!

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This truly shows the power differential of the PS4 over the X1.

Would you like to see her facial hair in action? Watch this vid and proceed to 2:10:

Horizon Zero Dawn - E3 2015 Trailer | PS4

https://youtu.be/Fkg5UVTsKCE?t=2m10s

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#51  Edited By Snugenz
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I like the idea behind Horizons and it looks pretty damn good, but it's GG and lets not forget that Killzone: SF also looked pretty damn good pre-release.

I hope i'm wrong about this game, but sadly i doubt i will be.

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#52  Edited By RTUUMM
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@Epak_ said:
@RTUUMM said:

I didnt think Horizon had amazing graphics.... and neither do I care if it doesnt have amazing graphics.

These days games look great enough and its things like atmosphere, lighting, animations, reactions, living world, accessibility, AI, good voice acting, ect. is whats most important.

To be fair, lighting is a major part of graphics.

I should have said art style.

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#53 Epak_
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@RTUUMM said:
@Epak_ said:
@RTUUMM said:

I didnt think Horizon had amazing graphics.... and neither do I care if it doesnt have amazing graphics.

These days games look great enough and its things like atmosphere, lighting, animations, reactions, living world, accessibility, AI, good voice acting, ect. is whats most important.

To be fair, lighting is a major part of graphics.

I should have said art style.

Yeah probably.

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#54 deactivated-5a30e101a977c
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@Shewgenja said:
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Oh here we go again, cows bragging about face tech and not gameplay. And I prefer my leading ladies to not have facial hair.

Here Lems go again, talking about other people's games because they don't have any, yet.

Here goes cowgenja again...

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#55 gpuking
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Just because Horizon has amazing tech doesn't mean the gameplay would be shit automatically. In fact name me one game that lets you shirtfront robodinos in many different ways in an open world game? GOd damn jelly herms and lems running out of fuels to flame.

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#56 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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I find a lot of the facial work rather amazing. A few games in particular have really raised the bar. None of this is perceivable durting actual play though. Hyping all this stuff is just asking for more cinematic games.

Said it in a different thread but I really dig the Horizon female lead. Great design. Nice to see something that women activists can't whine about.

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#57 tormentos
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@nyadc said:

ITT: Ignorant people who still don't seem to understand that literally anything the PlayStation 4 could run, the Xbox One could also run. These systems are not pieces of differing technology like PowerPC and Cell, they're both just x86 PC hardware and almost identical with nuance differences in structure.

The only difference between the Xbox One is it's essentially running a scaled back variant of the same GPU that's in the PlayStation 4, and they use different RAM setups to accomplish the same task, that's pretty much it.

The Order, Driveclub, Uncharted 4, Horizon, literally every single one of these games could run on the Xbox One if it were coded to.

For once i agree with B4X..

Alto the xbox one would run it in a lower resolution and lower frames.

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#58 KillOnSight
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Chick is ugly.

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#59  Edited By Heil68
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Well PS4 is current gen graphics king, so onward and forward.

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#60 Ant_17
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Can't you hype Persona 5 for it's style?

Unless the hair provides a skill bonus i don't care.

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#61  Edited By oflow
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Facial hair and half tucks are BS. How about bragging up some good gameplay, sweet AI or innovative mechanics?

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#62  Edited By NyaDC
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@tormentos said:
@nyadc said:

ITT: Ignorant people who still don't seem to understand that literally anything the PlayStation 4 could run, the Xbox One could also run. These systems are not pieces of differing technology like PowerPC and Cell, they're both just x86 PC hardware and almost identical with nuance differences in structure.

The only difference between the Xbox One is it's essentially running a scaled back variant of the same GPU that's in the PlayStation 4, and they use different RAM setups to accomplish the same task, that's pretty much it.

The Order, Driveclub, Uncharted 4, Horizon, literally every single one of these games could run on the Xbox One if it were coded to.

For once i agree with B4X..

Alto the xbox one would run it in a lower resolution and lower frames.

I'd say a lower resolution 1080p PS4/ 900p Xbox One etc, not framerate though, there's no reason to assume the framerate would be any lower.

P.S. I'm still not B4X

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#63 j2zon2591
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@Ant_17 said:

Can't you hype Persona 5 for it's style?

Unless the hair provides a skill bonus i don't care.

Bahahaha! Any ideas?

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#64 GameboyTroy
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@killonsight said:

Chick is ugly.

She's not that bad.

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#65 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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@GameboyTroy said:
@killonsight said:

Chick is ugly.

She's not that bad.

Not bad, I'd say great. Fit is always attractive.

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#66 GameboyTroy
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@Heirren said:
@GameboyTroy said:
@killonsight said:

Chick is ugly.

She's not that bad.

Not bad, I'd say great. Fit is always attractive.

Of course she's fit. He's talking about her face. Her face looks fine to me.

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#67 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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@GameboyTroy said:
@Heirren said:
@GameboyTroy said:
@killonsight said:

Chick is ugly.

She's not that bad.

Not bad, I'd say great. Fit is always attractive.

Of course she's fit. He's talking about her face. Her face looks fine to me.

She's got a fit face. Does not look like a skinny anorexic. I'm agreeing with you.

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#68 danjammer69
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@chikenfriedrice said:

Oh here we go again, cows bragging about face tech and not gameplay. And I prefer my leading ladies to not have facial hair.

You really don't know what you're missing!

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#69  Edited By remiks00
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"The Powah of teh Cell baby!" ....oh wait. lol, cows gonna cow.

Anyway, Horizon looks fun. I've been interested in it for a while now.

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#70  Edited By zeeshanhaider
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And then the downgrade kicks in just like the Out of Order 800p and Crapzone: Shadow Fail where even in the cutscene models was downgraded.

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#71  Edited By j2zon2591
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@zeeshanhaider said:

And then the downgrade kicks in just like the Out of Order 800p and Crapzone: Shadow Fail where even in the cutscene models was downgraded.

I've seem TO adjustments before the game coming out. It was a screenshot of 3-5 of them dragging a soldier into a building.

Any links to the KZSF downgrade?

@remiks00 said:

"The Powah of teh Cell baby!" ....oh wait. lol, cows gonna cow.

Anyway, Horizon looks fun. I've been interested in it for a while now.

What do they call 'em now? The Poweh of teh GDDR5 baby! ? :P

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#72 dz8t2t
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@FireEmblem_Man said:

I smell a 6/10

And I see a thread backfiring...

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@dz8t2t said:
@FireEmblem_Man said:

I smell a 6/10

And I see a thread backfiring...

Already did.. maybe.. some early posts here seem to think it's a legit/serious thread.

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#74 RyviusARC
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It doesn't even look that great.

The Witcher 3 easily has it beat.

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#75 Epak_
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@RyviusARC: Wouldn't say easily, both seem to be using speedtree for vegetation and the lighting looks good on both games. The character models look better in Horizon IMO, but there will probably be some downgrading in the future, we'll see.

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@gpuking: turok

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#78  Edited By RyviusARC
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@Epak_ said:

@RyviusARC: Wouldn't say easily, both seem to be using speedtree for vegetation and the lighting looks good on both games. The character models look better in Horizon IMO, but there will probably be some downgrading in the future, we'll see.

Horizons has to be downgraded to run well on the PS4.

Even in the video you will notice a lot of LOD pop in issues.

The Witcher 3 simply wins because a computer can push it much further than the PS4 could ever dream of.

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@zeeshanhaider said:

@j2zon2591:

Yeah, there were. Posted on these forums many times in order to shut up am-retard. Right now on a mobile, can't link them. But the lighting and texturing downgrades can easily be seen by comparing the pre release 4k bullshots, reveal video at ps4 reveal event and the games final version.

I see. I'll maybe check on that later if I feel like it.

@RyviusARC said:
@Epak_ said:

@RyviusARC: Wouldn't say easily, both seem to be using speedtree for vegetation and the lighting looks good on both games. The character models look better in Horizon IMO, but there will probably be some downgrading in the future, we'll see.

Horizons has to be downgraded to run well on the PS4.

Even in the video you will notice a lot of LOD pop in issues.

The Witcher 3 simply wins because a computer can push it much further than the PS4 could ever dream of.

Wonder if we'll get a high budget Horizon-esque game soon (Robo Dinos; new Dino Crisis, new Lost Planet?) if it becomes a hit and a 3rd party wants to do something closer to that for PS4/X1/PC (look at old TR then to new TR and now RoTR probably because of ND/UC influence/popularity).

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#80 xhawk27
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It does not have the power of the............................CLOUD!

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#81 j2zon2591
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@xhawk27 said:

It does not have the power of the............................CLOUD!

Her peach fuzz is fluffy doe.. maybe..

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#82 NyaDC
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I look at this thread and picture someone saying "wait until you see the true power of my Honda Civic!"....

I can't take this seriously...

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#83 j2zon2591
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@nyadc said:

I look at this thread and picture someone saying "wait until you see the true power of my Honda Civic!"....

I can't take this seriously...

Seems like you considered. Good thing you aren't.

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#84 NyaDC
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@j2zon2591 said:
@nyadc said:

I look at this thread and picture someone saying "wait until you see the true power of my Honda Civic!"....

I can't take this seriously...

Seems like you considered. Good thing you aren't.

Wat

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@nyadc said:
@j2zon2591 said:
@nyadc said:

I look at this thread and picture someone saying "wait until you see the true power of my Honda Civic!"....

I can't take this seriously...

Seems like you considered. Good thing you aren't.

Wat

You said "I can't take this seriously.".

When you brought that up I felt you may have considered taking this thread seriously. Otherwise could've just posted: I look at this thread and picture someone saying "wait until you see the true power of my Honda Civic!"....

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#86 NyaDC
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@j2zon2591 said:
@nyadc said:
@j2zon2591 said:
@nyadc said:

I look at this thread and picture someone saying "wait until you see the true power of my Honda Civic!"....

I can't take this seriously...

Seems like you considered. Good thing you aren't.

Wat

You said "I can't take this seriously.".

When you brought that up I felt you may have considered taking this thread seriously. Otherwise could've just posted: I look at this thread and picture someone saying "wait until you see the true power of my Honda Civic!"....

I'm just saying that in the context that there are actually people here who do.

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@nyadc said:
@j2zon2591 said:
@nyadc said:
@j2zon2591 said:
@nyadc said:

I look at this thread and picture someone saying "wait until you see the true power of my Honda Civic!"....

I can't take this seriously...

Seems like you considered. Good thing you aren't.

Wat

You said "I can't take this seriously.".

When you brought that up I felt you may have considered taking this thread seriously. Otherwise could've just posted: I look at this thread and picture someone saying "wait until you see the true power of my Honda Civic!"....

I'm just saying that in the context that there are actually people here who do.

I see.

I was surprised. Seem some did. Knee jerk posting. lol

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#88  Edited By ConanTheStoner  Online
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It's the true power of Sony employing top notch 3d artists and programmers while floating the bill for some cool tech.

Kind of annoying how every time a good looking console game comes around people choose to praise the box it runs on while ignoring the actual reasons as why the game looks how it does. Those characters don't look great because the game is running on PS4 hardware. They look great because people dedicated their lives to being great at their craft and Sony was smart enough to scoop them up.

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@ConanTheStoner said:

It's the true power of Sony employing top notch 3d artists and programmers while floating the bill for some cool tech.

Kind of annoying how every time a good looking console game comes around people choose to praise the box it runs on while ignoring the actual reasons as why the game looks how it does. Those characters don't look great because the game is running on PS4 hardware. They look great because people dedicated their lives to being great at their craft and Sony was smart enough to scoop them up.

And the more powerful hardware was there to render the extra hair at 1080p. That's where some of the extra 30-40% GPU juice is used relative to the bone. The canvas for the artist is bigger with better hardware.

j/k I know what you mean.

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@chikenfriedrice said:

Oh here we go again, cows bragging about face tech and not gameplay. And I prefer my leading ladies to not have facial hair.

Do people really sit and look for this stuff in the games they own? I borrowed the Order and yes it has great graphics. Big deal, the game is so weak that I am struggling to get the easiest Platinum trophy available. You can have all this power cows. I want to play enjoyable games and I see plenty coming to both consoles.

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#91 ominous_titan
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When the games bog down to 10-15 fps facial hair matters. Sony knows this, thanks kat sum san

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Cows do have some kind of a fetish with CGI faces lol

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@cainetao11 said:
@chikenfriedrice said:

Oh here we go again, cows bragging about face tech and not gameplay. And I prefer my leading ladies to not have facial hair.

Do people really sit and look for this stuff in the games they own? I borrowed the Order and yes it has great graphics. Big deal, the game is so weak that I am struggling to get the easiest Platinum trophy available. You can have all this power cows. I want to play enjoyable games and I see plenty coming to both consoles.

Some do. They love taking screenies. Already saw comments from before on how long x game took them because they kept gawking at the game lul.

AFAIK it's someone in TO screen threads or current gen screenshot threads in gaf:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=996617

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#94 lawlessx
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@jhonMalcovich said:

Cows do have some kind of a fetish with CGI faces lol

you'd think after what happened with the order they would slow down abit.

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#95  Edited By StrongBlackVine
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@batosaims: How do you know what GG is focusing on? We have seen one 5 minute clip on gameplay...that had more fluid combat than any other Western RPG I have ever seen. And yes it it is full blown RPG with towns, crafting, skill trees perking, hunting, gathering resources, economy, side quests, seamless open world, multiple tribes, exploration, swimming, character customization and tree/mountain climbing. But yes it is all about the facial hair...

They have also same said it will not have framerate drops below 30 so it will run smooth(for a console game).

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#96  Edited By remiks00
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@ConanTheStoner said:

It's the true power of Sony employing top notch 3d artists and programmers while floating the bill for some cool tech.

Kind of annoying how every time a good looking console game comes around people choose to praise the box it runs on while ignoring the actual reasons as why the game looks how it does. Those characters don't look great because the game is running on PS4 hardware. They look great because people dedicated their lives to being great at their craft and Sony was smart enough to scoop them up.

I feel you bro. I know that you're an artist yourself, so I can understand your point of view. The actual artist's themselves are never get acknowledged enough by these fanboys. All they ever care about is justifying their favorite piece of plastic. Lol, just look at gpuking's threads as prime example.