Trust me, you don't want Sony dominating the industry.

Seems like someone butthurt because of Sony's success- Go cry somewhere else.

Cry more. I enjoy the games Sony make. You can play something else by buying ANY other game besides Sony's

Thanks to MS dominating the PC industry, we now suffer from the rubbish Windows 10.

WE do not want MS dominating anything else.

Salt filled crying!

Isn't the whole salt thing getting old now.

You lost me here.

Valve dominates the industry.

not Sony

@rafaelmsoares:

What’s your alt

**** PC gaming...I placed an order for a GTX 1070 ti at MSRP when it was available in stock...2 weeks ago. They immediately charged me for it but still haven't shipped

@boycie: Nope

That would suck indeed. Imagine every game being designed for non gamer soccer moms.

It's not Sony's fault that Microsoft are literally doing jack shit to keep up with the competition. An Nintendo.. Well they're doing what they always do.. But I'd still say the switch is a secondary console..

@tryit: you're amusing

Sony = Quality.

Can't argue that. As for the whole story driven games....who cares, they're still bloody games, with enough fun and entertaining gameplay. MS and Nintendo can't compete.

@lifelessablaze said:@sovkhan said: Lifeless much???

Your address for the firemen???

@lifelessablaze said: Their incessant behavior of turning videogames into horribly written movies is just embarrassing and regresses videogames into a very limited experience. There is a good reason why everyone moves on and forgets Sony's movie games relatively fast. These games are hyped for a couple of weeks upon release and then no one cares. MS and Nintendo games are about pure fun that have lasting appeal and they don't try to be something they're not.

Think about it, the biggest Sony exclusives this gen have been heavily cinematic-based and that trend is continuing with "games" like TLOU2, Days Gone, Detroit: Become Human, Death Stranding, etc...it's just plain sad. This is why I can't get myself to be remotely interested in a Sony exclusive.

Poor little thing ^^ don't be so sad, you have pc now don't you??? Plenty of choice outta there huh???

And if it's not enough get you a X1X and call it a day.

**** PC gaming...I placed an order for a GTX 1070 ti at MSRP when it was available in stock...2 weeks ago. They immediately charged me for it but still haven't shipped

How is that PC gaming's fault?

Some games are better than none at all. cough xbox cough

@creepywelps:

Never said it was!!!

The guy has plenty of choices, so he'd better stop spamming us with his silly threads ^^

@sovkhan: I was talking to him, not sure why it quoted that way. But his assertion makes absolutely no sense.

The company with the best ideas each generation control the industry. It's never one company.

Chin up, mate.

Sony's games are far more memorable than Nintendo's or MS's. I was thinking on TLoU's ending long after I'd finished it (it has spawned countless threads all over the net debating it, and still is), whereas no matter how good a Nintendo game is, say, I forget it immediately when I shut the console off. Sure it's incredible fun in the moment like a good toy. But once put down, utterly forgotten until I pick it back up. Fortunately Sony has been working hard on and is really beginning to understand how to incorporate a decent narrative approach into a traditional gameplay experience to get the best of both worlds. In my opinion, they are succeeding with flying colors and have the sales and accolades to prove it. There is a large, large audience for these games.

A "movie game" is one from David Cage. Not TLoU, not GoW, and not Spider-Man. Thank God Sony makes these types of experiences, because frankly my interest in this hobby would significantly wane if Nintendo and MS's games were all that were on offer. Narrative has a place in gaming, and Sony is leading the way. Good for them.

As long as this shoverlware doesn't make it to PC and Nintendo consoles, I'm happy. Both platforms cater to hardcore gamers, so it's unlikely they'll ever get movie games.

@UssjTrunks: Late Shift is releasing on Nintendo Switch shortly. Can't get more movie game than an FMV game. :P

They can dominate as long as aside from there first party stuff they still put there distribution hat on. They still embrace distributing would be japanese niche games. That to me has always been the unique part of Sony. They are distribution history is surprising legendary. At the end of the day though I don't want anyone to dominate. Industry is too large for one manufacture.

Trust me, you don't want any company dominating the industry.

Sony dominated the industry before with PS1/PS2 and now PS4. Nothing bad happened, in fact its the opposite. Its the only console company that keeping AAA games coming over and over and the only one tries New AAA Ips over and over each generation.

As i said before what YOU dont like doesnt mean is bad. I love cinematic games ala The last of us etc an i wish other companies could offer similar experiences. But they cant and thats for a reason. Because people should understand that making an Uncharted, Horizon or The last of us is not a simple task. Movie this, movie that ... but name me a single game that can match with uncharted and offer everything it does ? Tomb raider ? ... I mean ... Suddenly we run out of options ha ? We cant think a single game to offer everything UC or TLOU does let alone being far better than them.

With that in mind something is great about those games and noone can do something better out there. So you dont like cinematic games ? So be it. Go play Nintendo Labo or wait for Xbox 2 to get an exclusive and let God of War for PS owners. Problem solved.

Stop dissing based on your taste. Be objective for once.

@AzatiS: They love Tomb Raider when Fill Sphincter paid for 1 year exclusivity, and it's cinematic.

NO they did not screw up with the PS3,that is the perception people get because people actually believe that sony did horrible,the PS3 was $600 and was expensive,but was worth every damn penny,on 2006 stand alone Blu-ray players were $1,000 and xbox 360 with live was $450 if you wanted HD movies and games and you didn't get a PS3 you would have pay more than $1,400 for it.

And people did buy it by the way,they just didn't buy it as fast as the PS2,what other console other than the PS2,ps1 and wii sold 90 million or more units? Because not even the xbox 360 which was considered a success by many here even with its huge fail rate that did blow up actual numbers,without RROD i am sure MS would not have pass 60 million units.

The xbox 360 was a failure even more,it had some great games because MS money hatted the industry,the console had the worse fail rate of any electronic i may say,charged you for P2P $60 dollars,forced people to pay for apps that on other systems and phones were free like netflix,and abused it user base with a torrent of microtransactions and basically turned the industry into a nickel and dime busyness.

What you use to get free in the old days by finishing the game several times,was strip from many games to be sold for extra money,people were even paying for different colors of characters in games.

The xbox didn't exist on 2000 and the PS2 was there the xbox didn't exist on 1994 either and the PS was there to,MS hasn't won a single generation and gave people this gen a weak overpriced console that was going to be full even of more anti consumer policies, MS didn't win last gen Nintendo did,and they finish basically last after starting first.

And you say if it wasn't for the xbox 360 sony would not have deliver the PS4,yeah because last gen was won by MS right,i forgot that the 101 million wii didn't existed,which by the way MS try to emulate with the xbox one and loss badly.

Sony simple returned to what it did best,value and games.

OH really who took gaming mainstream?

Point to me to the platforms that sold 100 millions before sony did.

The most sold was the Nes and was like 60 millions,sony grew the industry to a level that wasn't seen before,then the PS2 the best selling console ever over 155 million units sold.

How? Because it has a CPU and GPU from PC? HDD was sony ideas no MS and the HDD for PS2 release before the xbox was even out get your facts right,the PS4 has its own API for making games dude,it doesn't use DX12 or vulkan.

Analogues sticks existed before NIntendo used them on the N64,Atari did that first,and by the way sony did the first controller with clickable analoges or what is now known as the R3 and L3 was The dual shock the analogue not analogues by the way the N64 only had 1,were not clickable,tell me what button is use now on FPS to run and mele? Oh yeah the R3 and L3 thanks sony for them.

PSN isn't a clone of live and even use to have a virtual world which let you play games free,gather with people and launch games from it,and by the way Since 1999 Sony stated that they would have a market to buy stuff for the PS2 and announce and HDD to,in 1999 the xbox was nowhere to be found.

The machine is also equipped with one Type III PC card slot. In 2001, Sony will ship a PC Card Ethernet adapter so that the PS2 can connect directly to the Internet via a cable modem, Sony's Kutaragi said. At the same time, the vendor will sell a high-capacity hard drive for the PS2, he added.

Though it is unclear what kinds of network services Sony is planning, Kutaragi said that he sees the PS2 as a new distribution system for music and movies. Sony Music Entertainment Japan's CEO Shigeo Maruyama told IDG News Service that his company is readying Internet music services for the PS2, but he would not provide details.

http://edition.cnn.com/TECH/computing/9909/14/ps2.idg/

Educate yourself where was the xbox on 1999? MS took sony idea of the HDD and ethernet and simple sold build in what sony was going to sell appart and MS loss 4 billions on the xbox for it.

The only thing i concede that they took for MS was achievements and charging for online play.

The xbox controller is a dual shock remapped.

If it wasn't for sony you would not have a Forza on xbox today.

Oh did i mention that DVD was first on ps2 than xbox? How about Blu-ray yeah been there done that since 2006 that arrived on xbox in 2013.

I don't want any single entity dominating the industry. Competition is always better for the consumer. Better products and prices.

1. You mention the RROD(which MS actually ponied money up for), and completely forget the DRE of the PS2(and I'll bet you're going to downplay that problem).

2. Companies buy exclusives one way or another. Do you really think Sony got all those 3rd party exclusives in the PS1 and PS2 days for free?

3. Sony didn't grow the industry, the industry grew up. I'm in my early 40's. Video games were strictly a kids domain in the Atari and NES days. As those of us who were young and grew up playing video games, we continued to play video games into adulthood. Whether it was Nintendo, Panasonic, sega, MS, Sony, or NEC, the industry was simply going to get bigger. It was a new medium. The industry grew last gen when Sony was not the market leader, or do they get credit for that as well?

4. You compare an open system like PC(where you believe it or not the first networks WEREN'T free in the early days, until homebrew software was able to fill the gap), to closed system. TV was free at one point, then cable came along, radio, etc etc etc. BTW PSN wasn't worth a damn until they started charging for it.

5. DLC existed LONG before XBL(I remember buy extra course disks for Jack Nicklaus Golf back in the 80's). MS simply was the first to have a mainstream network available in the console space for it to be made available.

6. PS4's API is largely based on OpenGL if I remember correctly(though I could be wrong on this).

7. The PS4 would not have been as powerful nor as easy to program if they had the largest chunk of the console space last gen.

8. You did notice the date on your article you posted right? 5 days after the release of the dreamcast which included a modem for connecting to the internet. You wanna know where MS was at that time? The OS the dreamcast ran on was Windows CE. Oh and they had the direct forerunner to XBL up and running for 3 years by this time the MS gaming zone. Oh do you remember how the PS2 HDD originally couldn't be used to store game saves, then ackwardly implemented.

9. If you can't admit that PSN is a direct copy of XBL then I'm not entirely sure how rational of an argument you have.

10. I'll give you the clickable analog stick.

11. MS's deal with Nvidia is what killed them with the xbox, not the HDD.

12. The xbox controller is a hybrid of the dreamcast, the original xbox duke, the playstation, and MS line of PC gamepads. The playstation controller was a SNES controller with a second of shoulder buttons...which makes sense as the playstation was originally a SNES CD drive addon.

13. DVD bluray were merely larger optical drives. That also had been done prior to the playstation.

14. Did you really mention PS home?

It's better than nothing.

Tell that to Nvidia.

The thing is that there wasnt any competition in PS2 era yet Ps2 delivered since last day. No actually was keeping delivering way beyond its generation. Ps3, The last of us months before Ps4 arrival with Wii being dead and X360 in serious life support with no exclusives to show. Ps4, God of war and massive AAA titles around the corner when Ps4 is almost 5 years old with Wii U dead and X1 again without any exclusives to show... Where is competition ? Even Ps1 made competition look subpar. Saturn ? 3DO ? N64 ? Who ?

The only rough time Sony had was with Ps3 sales wise while being near bankruptcy.. and guess what happened... Wii DEAD, the one with massive profits, Ps3 = the last of us few months before PS4 release. You get the point ? Thats why theres no competition, because of this mentality Sony has towards their consoles every single generation.

Enjoy paying $699 for the PS5! lol

Trust me, I don't trust anyone here :P

The PS1 and PS2 were game consoles. The PS3 and PS4 weren't.

With that said, movie games are specifically targeted at casual gamers. As long as there are hardcore gamers, we will continue to get real games from other publishers.

Nothing wrong with cinematic games. Also that existed before Sony.

1-The xbox also suffer DRE thompson drives were particularly faulty and bad,but all the drives from different brands suffer for it,and the xbox 360 as well and just so you know all optical drives suffer DRE at a point the lent wear off.

This ^^ has nothing to do with what i say to you.

2-Most exclusives on PS1 and PS2 were not pay by sony,appart from FF and some other that sony made a deal for them,most were simply exclusives because the other platforms sold so bad that getting the investment back was not really possible,specially if the game was Japanese.

3-I'm also in my 40's dude and gaming was't just for kids,no sony grew the industry,in fact games like MK,Tekken and many other arcade games all of the sudden could have basically arcade perfect ports,in fact the first game to sell 1 million on PS was Tekken which was highly popular at the arcade,all of the sudden you didn't need 20 dollars in tokens or quarters,all you need it was a PS a game and your friends..

It wasn't a new medium what are you smoking games consoles have existed since the 70's,on 1994 no it wasn't a new medium.

4-Online was free on PC,DC,Gamecube,PS2,PS3,3ds,ds,psp,vita basically all systems that supported it before MS started charging,and in fact sony had more games on dedicated servers back on PS3 than it does that the service is charge to play,because back then sony used their own PS3 as dedicated servers,actually saving allot of money on the process,cable was not free because you use to get networks that you would not usually get over your air antenna,and tv still is free because there are free channels that you still can get over the air,again stop using shitty excuses online was free everywhere and MS charged you for P2P,when no one was doing it.

5-DLC was basically given free on PC by most developers for years,what you bought back then was an expansion not DLC,unlike now that you get to pay even for weapons or skin colors,hell Epic had a huge fight with MS over microtransactions is well known.

6-No and that proves how little you know about it.

7-They had the second largest,and when the PS2 released it was the most powerful console for 20 months almost 2 years until the xbox landed,so yeah sony has made powerful hardware before.

8-The dreamcast a 56k modem the ethernet one was release later in fact in January 2001 well after sony said it,in fact in 2001 it also release on PS2.The dreamcast didn't run a MS OS fool it uses windows CE as development platform if you wanted to because sega changed their mind and used its own software you could use the MS os if you wanted to most games skipped windows and used Sega's own software. This is old news dude.

Yeah they had it 3 years before they went in,and that is the reason why the xbox was offline until 2002 when live launched,1 full year without online because they had it 3 years early right.? lol

9-PSN had more servers to gaming than the xbox 360 did,hell the PS2 had more games on dedicated servers than the xbox which was all P2P,they were not even using the same strategy live was an enclosed network restricted to the bone,PSN was open and allowed more flexibilities for developers,in fact EA run its own games on their own servers and not on xbox live,and they do so sine the PS2 days when they release madden online on PS2 and leaved the xbox version offline as protest for MS strick network plan,which forced MS to gave in and allow EA to ran their own servers,both were different and worked different.

10-Yay you gave something.

11-No in fact Nvidia was force by court to lower its prices to MS they loss that case,using an ethernet port,HDD build in,off the shelve CPU and GPU + using actual DVD drives instead of making a custom one was what really killed profist for MS.

The xbox used to much off the shelve parts and expensive ones Intel and Nvidia pretty much the most expensive to gamers on the PC market now,and is been like that for years.

12-No they basically stole Sega control design and remapped the analogue placement,and added some of the most cumbersome buttons ever on a controller,the white and black button just to have the same exact number of buttons that the DS has.

Yeah because the PS controller was flat without gripes.

13-What released console had DVD before the PS? Hell sony was co founder of Blu-ray and the PS3 was one of the first models and the best one quality wise for years.

14-Yes and it was free while you were been charged for netflix on xbox live..lol

That fight for 2nd place.

Poor Console only gamers.

@hawkeye44: "Nintendo kiddy cartoony garbage." Do you need help moving past your insecurities? Do you only need your 'adult' T and M games to consider yourself a real gamer? Are you capable of recognizing that the demographic age doesn't matter if the game is good?

NO he is not talking about the xbox two.

Hahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.... NO wait wait...

Hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa....

Sony's first-party offerings are not just movie games, despite what all the fanboys hastily generalize. And so what? If the games can be considered good, then why dismiss all of them? Whether or not they have strong vs. poor writing is just your opinion, and if you simply do not like games with more cinematic tendencies, then that's fine. But, last I checked, there was plenty that was console-exclusive to the PS4 that had a vast amount of gameplay depth, am I not right? Bloodborne, Horizon Zero Dawn, Nioh, Persona 5, or Yakuza 0, anyone?

No, YOU don't want Sony dominating the industry. The rest of us are okay with it. When MS attempted to dominate the industry, they threatened to take our games offline if we didn't have an internet connection. You may be a battered housewife that won't leave the relationship, but currently... I'm good. Besides. Microsoft's been all like...

And now they're damn near giving everything away. If you buy an Xbox One (which is like $50 bucks off every month since they'd sell like trash otherwise), and pay them $120 a year, you can have all their first party games via Game Pass because it's getting harder for them to compete, Thank Sony you're getting shit for cheaper.

This.

It's better if MS dominated the industry.

-Imagine no more console exclusives

-New games that lacks content

-Limited support from Japanese devs

-Forced daily online connection and single use game drm

What a Utopia.

You bring up good points. They certainly need to address them, and they'd be doing better, I feel! The services are actually fantastic, but games. Eh.

What a traumatic fanboy meltdown

Basically. The XBox fanbase has no clue what is good for them.