Turok demo comparison 360 vs. PS3 (hilarious) (56k)

From the grand ol' Gaf if old then ignore:

EDIT: 360 on left, PS3 on right.

The game looks mediocre overall having played the PSN demo so this isn't a 360 power thread. Rather, I'm curious as to what the deal is with Unreal Engine ports on the PS3? Whats the problem? UT3 looks pretty good, why can't anybody but Epic get the engine to work right?

I can feel the Fanboys gearing up...

blah blah blah 360 suck anyway

blah blah blah Turok suck anyway

blah blah blah Unreal 3 sucks anyway...

Personally, I'm not instrested in Turok.

As I said converting real textures from 360 to ps3 is a major pain in the rear. Ps3 is only good for floats not texture based graphics.amorbis1001

Huh?

I can feel the Fanboys gearing up...

blah blah blah 360 suck anyway

blah blah blah Turok suck anyway

blah blah blah Unreal 3 sucks anyway...

Personally, I'm not instrested in Turok.

Shattered007

The game does suck, and as for the Unreal Engine....in my opinion its use started and ended with Gears. No other game has used it as well, nor ever will probably.

Yeah I played the PS3 demo and it looked horrible. At least one version looks... kind of good.

[QUOTE="Shattered007"]

I can feel the Fanboys gearing up...

blah blah blah 360 suck anyway

blah blah blah Turok suck anyway

blah blah blah Unreal 3 sucks anyway...

Personally, I'm not instrested in Turok.

TheSystemLord1

The game does suck, and as for the Unreal Engine....in my opinion its use started and ended with Gears. No other game has used it as well, nor ever will probably.

nonsense. mass effect, bioshock...

At this point and time, nobody should be suprised. I mean it is another multiplat game, you know what that means. 360 > PS3 for whatever reason. Kinda sad but hilarious to most.

edit: don't blame the developer, blame the PS3 hardware, simple as that really. I mean if you start blaming one developer, you might as well blame all of them, because there's a hand full of multiplats inferior on the PS3. So you're going to blame all of them? I don't think so, its the PS3 hardware's fault.

[QUOTE="Shattered007"]

I can feel the Fanboys gearing up...

blah blah blah 360 suck anyway

blah blah blah Turok suck anyway

blah blah blah Unreal 3 sucks anyway...

Personally, I'm not instrested in Turok.

TheSystemLord1

The game does suck, and as for the Unreal Engine....in my opinion its use started and ended with Gears. No other game has used it as well, nor ever will probably.

gears 2 no?

[QUOTE="TheSystemLord1"][QUOTE="Shattered007"]

I can feel the Fanboys gearing up...

blah blah blah 360 suck anyway

blah blah blah Turok suck anyway

blah blah blah Unreal 3 sucks anyway...

Personally, I'm not instrested in Turok.

Always-Honest

The game does suck, and as for the Unreal Engine....in my opinion its use started and ended with Gears. No other game has used it as well, nor ever will probably.

nonsense. mass effect, bioshock...

I'd forgotten about Bioshock, that one used it well. But Mass Effect suffered awful texture loading, the game was too large for its engine.

The texture loading is the only thing I hated about Mass Effect...

which is the 360 version?pro-nathan-07

gears 2 no?

hurley_house

We can only hope can't we...I didn't mention Gears 2 because we have seen no screens and frankly I expect it to look exactly the same. If Epic wants to save their engine they'd better come up with some awesome new tricks though...Gears 2 will be just the game to show off those tricks.

the problem was the devs didn't use any of the cell for rendering like games such as RnC, warhawk and unhcarted do. Turok devs just jused the rsx, which was a horrible idea....The 360's gpu for actually pushing pixels doubles the rsx and in some cases triples it....but thats why sony uses the cell to do graphical work.....tsk these devs didn't know how to program, optimize, and contact sony for help lol!LibertySaint

The Turok developer on the GAF, Bishoptl I believe his tag is, swore up and down the games would be identical. Haven't heard from him in awhile...

At this point and time, nobody should be suprised. I mean it is another multiplat game, you know what that means. 360 > PS3 for whatever reason. Kinda sad but hilarious to most.

edit: don't blame the developer, blame the PS3 hardware, simple as that really. I mean if you start blaming one developer, you might as well blame all of them, because there's a hand full of multiplats inferior on the PS3. So you're going to blame all of them? I don't think so, its the PS3 hardware's fault.

ReverseCycology

it was both, devs didn't know how to use the ps3s hard ware, thats why its smart to always start on the ps3 when doing multi-platforms, ala cod4, AC and burn out paradise. Plus they had help from sony....turok devs were to lazy to contact and learn how to use the cell for rendering, Which is where for the most part the ps3 gets some of its visuals. the rsx by itself is crap, its like a old computer gpu....by itself worse then the 7800 on the pc's because the ps3verison does have the 512 vram it ahs 256....oh well.

[QUOTE="LibertySaint"]the problem was the devs didn't use any of the cell for rendering like games such as RnC, warhawk and unhcarted do. Turok devs just jused the rsx, which was a horrible idea....The 360's gpu for actually pushing pixels doubles the rsx and in some cases triples it....but thats why sony uses the cell to do graphical work.....tsk these devs didn't know how to program, optimize, and contact sony for help lol!TheSystemLord1

The Turok developer on the GAF, Bishoptl I believe his tag is, swore up and down the games would be identical. Haven't heard from him in awhile...

lol so it is the devs eh? they didn't have enuff time to fix it until realize so they just cut stuff out so it was playable....damn devs lol! oh well turok sucks anyways....i won't be getting for 360 unless the mp is great.

[QUOTE="hurley_house"]

gears 2 no?

TheSystemLord1

We can only hope can't we...I didn't mention Gears 2 because we have seen no screens and frankly I expect it to look exactly the same. If Epic wants to save their engine they'd better come up with some awesome new tricks though...Gears 2 will be just the game to show off those tricks.

nah itl look better why wouldnt it gears was out in the first year of xbox 360 life cycle now in the 3rd year on i think wed see a significant upgrade seeing as epic work so well on 360 architecture

lol so it is the devs eh? they didn't have enuff time to fix it until realize so they just cut stuff out so it was playable....damn devs lol! oh well turok sucks anyways....i won't be getting for 360 unless the mp is great.

LibertySaint

Yeah, I dunno what his problem was but for months he'd been screaming the praises of his game, saying we wouldn't be able to believe it...

Like I said, the game looks and plays pretty garbage on both machines, this is more of an Unreal Engine by 3rd parties thread lol.

[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

At this point and time, nobody should be suprised. I mean it is another multiplat game, you know what that means. 360 > PS3 for whatever reason. Kinda sad but hilarious to most.

edit: don't blame the developer, blame the PS3 hardware, simple as that really. I mean if you start blaming one developer, you might as well blame all of them, because there's a hand full of multiplats inferior on the PS3. So you're going to blame all of them? I don't think so, its the PS3 hardware's fault.

LibertySaint

it was both, devs didn't know how to use the ps3s hard ware, thats why its smart to always start on the ps3 when doing multi-platforms, ala cod4, AC and burn out paradise. Plus they had help from sony....turok devs were to lazy to contact and learn how to use the cell for rendering, Which is where for the most part the ps3 gets some of its visuals. the rsx by itself is crap, its like a old computer gpu....by itself worse then the 7800 on the pc's because the ps3verison does have the 512 vram it ahs 256....oh well.

I don't really buy that "devs were lazy" theory. I mean, why would a developer spend all this time, money, and effort making a game inferior on one system on purpose. Unless they know for sure that the 360 version would sell more and they'll recoup more from the 360 version alone. I just don't think being lazy is good business, so I don't they were.

[QUOTE="LibertySaint"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

At this point and time, nobody should be suprised. I mean it is another multiplat game, you know what that means. 360 > PS3 for whatever reason. Kinda sad but hilarious to most.

edit: don't blame the developer, blame the PS3 hardware, simple as that really. I mean if you start blaming one developer, you might as well blame all of them, because there's a hand full of multiplats inferior on the PS3. So you're going to blame all of them? I don't think so, its the PS3 hardware's fault.

ReverseCycology

it was both, devs didn't know how to use the ps3s hard ware, thats why its smart to always start on the ps3 when doing multi-platforms, ala cod4, AC and burn out paradise. Plus they had help from sony....turok devs were to lazy to contact and learn how to use the cell for rendering, Which is where for the most part the ps3 gets some of its visuals. the rsx by itself is crap, its like a old computer gpu....by itself worse then the 7800 on the pc's because the ps3verison does have the 512 vram it ahs 256....oh well.

I don't really buy that "devs were lazy" theory. I mean, why would a developer spend all this time, money, and effort making a game inferior on one system on purpose. Unless they know for sure that the 360 version would sell more and they'll recoup more from the 360 version alone. I just don't think being lazy is good business, so I don't they were.

[QUOTE="LibertySaint"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

At this point and time, nobody should be suprised. I mean it is another multiplat game, you know what that means. 360 > PS3 for whatever reason. Kinda sad but hilarious to most.

edit: don't blame the developer, blame the PS3 hardware, simple as that really. I mean if you start blaming one developer, you might as well blame all of them, because there's a hand full of multiplats inferior on the PS3. So you're going to blame all of them? I don't think so, its the PS3 hardware's fault.

ReverseCycology

it was both, devs didn't know how to use the ps3s hard ware, thats why its smart to always start on the ps3 when doing multi-platforms, ala cod4, AC and burn out paradise. Plus they had help from sony....turok devs were to lazy to contact and learn how to use the cell for rendering, Which is where for the most part the ps3 gets some of its visuals. the rsx by itself is crap, its like a old computer gpu....by itself worse then the 7800 on the pc's because the ps3verison does have the 512 vram it ahs 256....oh well.

I don't really buy that "devs were lazy" theory. I mean, why would a developer spend all this time, money, and effort making a game inferior on one system on purpose. Unless they know for sure that the 360 version would sell more and they'll recoup more from the 360 version alone. I just don't think being lazy is good business, so I don't they were.

Umm, so they can release their title as soon as they can. It's not really just the devs fault, but the publishers. I mean we can go and blame Sony, because we all know they don't want their games to be good.

[QUOTE="TheSystemLord1"][QUOTE="Shattered007"]

I can feel the Fanboys gearing up...

blah blah blah 360 suck anyway

blah blah blah Turok suck anyway

blah blah blah Unreal 3 sucks anyway...

Personally, I'm not instrested in Turok.

Always-Honest

The game does suck, and as for the Unreal Engine....in my opinion its use started and ended with Gears. No other game has used it as well, nor ever will probably.

nonsense. mass effect, bioshock...

Bioshock, yes...ME...sure it looks great...to bad it doesnt run as good as it looks.

[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"][QUOTE="LibertySaint"][QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

At this point and time, nobody should be suprised. I mean it is another multiplat game, you know what that means. 360 > PS3 for whatever reason. Kinda sad but hilarious to most.

edit: don't blame the developer, blame the PS3 hardware, simple as that really. I mean if you start blaming one developer, you might as well blame all of them, because there's a hand full of multiplats inferior on the PS3. So you're going to blame all of them? I don't think so, its the PS3 hardware's fault.

SOedipus

it was both, devs didn't know how to use the ps3s hard ware, thats why its smart to always start on the ps3 when doing multi-platforms, ala cod4, AC and burn out paradise. Plus they had help from sony....turok devs were to lazy to contact and learn how to use the cell for rendering, Which is where for the most part the ps3 gets some of its visuals. the rsx by itself is crap, its like a old computer gpu....by itself worse then the 7800 on the pc's because the ps3verison does have the 512 vram it ahs 256....oh well.

I don't really buy that "devs were lazy" theory. I mean, why would a developer spend all this time, money, and effort making a game inferior on one system on purpose. Unless they know for sure that the 360 version would sell more and they'll recoup more from the 360 version alone. I just don't think being lazy is good business, so I don't they were.

Umm, so they can release their title as soon as they can. It's not really just the devs fault, but the publishers. I mean we can go and blame Sony, because we all know they don't want their games to be good.

i know....its not sonys fault tho...they weren't even involed in th whole game....but they could have been if the devs would asked for help.

[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

I don't really buy that "devs were lazy" theory. I mean, why would a developer spend all this time, money, and effort making a game inferior on one system on purpose. Unless they know for sure that the 360 version would sell more and they'll recoup more from the 360 version alone. I just don't think being lazy is good business, so I don't they were.

Slashkice

When you see games like Devil May Cry 4, Burnout Paradise, Call of Duty 4, Unreal Tournament 3, Uncharted, Assassin's Creed, etc. etc. it becomes pretty evident.

As for the stuff in red; that's just stupid. Were your theory true, it would only screw them out of more money. It's just laziness on the dev's part; simple as that.

edit: devs need to use the ps3 as the lead sku if they want the sp3 verison to be good, thats a fact, or unless they have a year to prot it...ala rainbow xis vegas 1 on ps3. it will be good just not as good as the 360 verison. They need to use the ps3 as the lead because everything on the ps3 can easily be translated to the 360.

Why is it that the PS3 versions of multi-plats always look washed out and grainy when compared to the 360 version?

It was the same with assasins creed and rainbow six,if I remember right,nothing too noticeable but the difference was there.Are devs STILL finding it hard to port to the PS3 or are they just lazy?

Why is it that the PS3 versions of multi-plats always look washed out and grainy when compared to the 360 version?

It was the same with assasins creed and rainbow six,if I remember right,nothing too noticeable but the difference was there.Are devs STILL finding it hard to port to the PS3 or are they just lazy?

stvee101

lol look at the pictures again, its not that they are washed out and grainy. Thats not the big deal...hint look at the foilage on the right compared to the 360 on the left...lol did u look at them even?

Why is it that the PS3 versions of multi-plats always look washed out and grainy when compared to the 360 version?

It was the same with assasins creed and rainbow six,if I remember right,nothing too noticeable but the difference was there.Are devs STILL finding it hard to port to the PS3 or are they just lazy?

stvee101

It's not just the devs fault, do you think they're proud about having a game they already made look worse on a console that should be able to handle it?

[QUOTE="LibertySaint"]

plus the didn't use sonys help

Slashkice

I consider that being lazy.

lol k. I call it not enough time. but yeah u can say either :P

[QUOTE="Slashkice"][QUOTE="LibertySaint"]

plus the didn't use sonys help

LibertySaint

I consider that being lazy.

lol k. I call it not enough time. but yeah u can say either :P

*facepalm* pure denial. pure. "lets call it whatever we want as long as it takes away the pain!" one cow makes up that they didnt use sony's help, the other believes it and continues and the other is willing to take any of the answers as long as it doesnt come to the conclusion of truth.

[QUOTE="LibertySaint"][QUOTE="Slashkice"][QUOTE="LibertySaint"]

plus the didn't use sonys help

A-LEGEND

I consider that being lazy.

lol k. I call it not enough time. but yeah u can say either :P

*facepalm* pure denial. pure. "lets call it whatever we want as long as it takes away the pain!"

wait, wait, what? Pain, pain of what? O.o lols, i would never buy this game for my 360!

[QUOTE="A-LEGEND"][QUOTE="LibertySaint"][QUOTE="Slashkice"][QUOTE="LibertySaint"]

plus the didn't use sonys help

LibertySaint

I consider that being lazy.

lol k. I call it not enough time. but yeah u can say either :P

*facepalm* pure denial. pure. "lets call it whatever we want as long as it takes away the pain!"

wait, wait, what? Pain, pain of what? O.o lols, i would never buy this game for my 360!

nobody cares what you do. re-read my post. i edited.

[QUOTE="stvee101"]

Why is it that the PS3 versions of multi-plats always look washed out and grainy when compared to the 360 version?

It was the same with assasins creed and rainbow six,if I remember right,nothing too noticeable but the difference was there.Are devs STILL finding it hard to port to the PS3 or are they just lazy?

LibertySaint

lol look at the pictures again, its not that they are washed out and grainy. Thats not the big deal...hint look at the foilage on the right compared to the 360 on the left...lol did u look at them even?

Did you look at them? Overall to my eyes the ps3 verion just isn't anywhere near as sharp or as detailed as the 360 version.This is pretty embarrasing for sony.

Think of it this way:

Say the 360 and PS3 were in a race making a multiplatform game. Development of a game = a racing track. Both 360 and PS3 have the same racing track length plus both 360 and PS3 have the same time to complete the race. The PS3 just have more obsticles on the racing track than the 360. Devs just have to work longer, harder, spend more money, and spend more effort in making a multiplat for the PS3. This is why sometimes if not most of the time, PS3 versions of games feels unfinished, with no online capability, etc. because the game had to come out and there were just so many obsticles with the PS3 hardware. Hope that made sense to people.