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#1  Edited By demon-returns
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And all I see hear sometimes is how people complain about how garbage this gen is with no good games? Now granted that the 2 games are multiplats but so what.

If rocksteady hadn't messed up arkham knight so much we probably could've landed three 10s.

And then we still have Fallout 4 coming and then can always get a 10 too.

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#2 Basinboy
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You are missing one.

The Witcher 3
Journey
MGSV

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#3 deactivated-58ce94803a170
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4 10s within 10 months. Truly been amazing.

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#4  Edited By lundy86_4  Online
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There are some great games this gen. Most of the complaints come from the lack of worthwhile exclusives on the PS4/Xbone.

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#5  Edited By uninspiredcup
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As a person from the 90's who cares about gameplay, these games are not very impressive. Gerald Of Rivendale can barely navigate to a ladder coherently, such is the standard of modern gaming journalism. Frankly, Kevin Vanord's firing was very much justified. That new man (with the beard), gave a 10 to an unfinished game with microtransactions.

The barbarians are well past the gates.

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#6 deactivated-5a7fcf5e55c95
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@uninspiredcup: Kevin wasn't fired, he simply left to pursue other avenues like making games possibly. Also, Peter Brown is not new at all.

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#7  Edited By cainetao11
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@demon-returns said:

And all I see hear sometimes is how people complain about how garbage this gen is with no good games? Now granted that the 2 games are multiplats but so what.

If rocksteady hadn't messed up arkham knight so much we probably could've landed three 10s.

And then we still have Fallout 4 coming and then can always get a 10 too.

This gen has provided me with the best game I have ever put over 100 hours into, a FPS that I had the most fun playing online since Halo 2, a faster paced Souls game that I love. Looking at the future I am psyched. I don't know why people still play if they have such a hard time having fun.

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#8 LegatoSkyheart
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We've had 4 in one year technically.

Bayonetta 2 isn't a year old yet.

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#9 locopatho
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Been a tasty gen so far, lots of great games.

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#10 isturbo1984
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@demon-returns:

might want to mention the reviewer... and the games for that matter.

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#11 demon-returns
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@uninspiredcup said:

As a person from the 90's who cares about gameplay, these games are not very impressive. Gerald Of Rivendale can barely navigate to a ladder coherently, such is the standard of modern gaming journalism. Frankly, Kevin Vanord's firing was very much justified. That new man (with the beard), gave a 10 to an unfinished game with microtransactions.

The barbarians are well past the gates.

Then maybe just stick to playing games from the 90s? :-I

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#12  Edited By uninspiredcup
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@PikminWorld: Semantics will not change reality.

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#13  Edited By Liquid_
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Was gonna say, didn't Bayonetta 2 get a 10? or did that release last year?

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#14 Mr_Huggles_dog
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This gen sucks, though.

Right?

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#15 Bigboi500
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It's funny how people's perception of games are so heavily influenced by review scores: an imaginary number created from the mind of a single individual's personal preference.

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#16 svaubel
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Dunno why a game laced with micropayments is worth a perfect score. Guess standards are falling. The other recent 10's from GS I agree with though.

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#17 deactivated-58ce94803a170
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@svaubel: It wont have a paywall, it was all a misunderstanding.

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#18 deactivated-5a7fcf5e55c95
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@uninspiredcup said:

@PikminWorld: Semantics will not change reality.

:P

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#19 -God-
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And both are best on PC!

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#20 GhostHawk196
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I haven't played MGS5 but if it is anything like MGS4 or better I have no doubt the score is well deserved. The Witcher 3 though...I really don't appreciate it ruining all the other decent rpg games like Skyrim/Dragon Age Inquisition etc... The Witcher 3 makes said RPGs inferior and because of how incredible it was, I will never touch those games again simply because I would be better off doing another playthrough of The Witcher 3. Game of the decade...

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#21 Cloud_imperium
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Gamespot is new IGN.

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#22 GrenadeLauncher
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2015 arguably the best year for vidya in a long time.

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#23 joe_b1_kenobi
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I think fallout 4 will get a 10 aswell. In my opinion journey is abit too niche to receive a 10 but I agree with the rest.

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#24 Ghosts4ever
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Witcher 3 was dissapointment

MGS5 doesnot look anywhere near 10. 8 or 7 maybe but not 10

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#25 Suppaman100
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@ghosts4ever said:

Witcher 3 was dissapointment

MGS5 doesnot look anywhere near 10. 8 or 7 maybe but not 10

Lol says the guy with the adam jenssen avatar.

Deus ex human revolution was so much better than the Witcher 3...(not srs)

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#26 silverside
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@ghosts4ever: what game deserves a 10 then? If not MGS5 and W3

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#27 Ghosts4ever
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@Suppaman100 said:

Deus ex human revolution was so much better than the Witcher 3...

I agreed.

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#28 jg4xchamp
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It's not so much this gen blows, as much as the PS4 and XBox One suck if you own a gaming PC.

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#29  Edited By ToScA-
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Standards are low as **** these days. And a few reviewers here and there throwing around a few 10s doesn't imply that the general consensus on said games is the same.

MGS4 received a 10 as well, doesn't mean I bloody agreed with the score (great game though).

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#30 PAL360
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This generation has been great so far, especially this year.

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#31 PAL360
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@ToScA- said:

Standards are low as **** these days. And a few reviewers here and there throwing around a few 10s doesn't imply that the general consensus on said games is the same.

MGS4 received a 10 as well, doesn't mean I bloody agreed with the score (great game though).

Scores are indeed subjective, but quality is not. We have had lots of quality games this generation.

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#32  Edited By Skelly34
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Witcher 3 and The Journey Remastered - apparently 10/10 material.

Standards are low. 10/10 has never been so cheapened.

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#33 gameofthering
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Yet most 10/10 (to me) aren't that great.

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#34 jhcho2
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We had Witcher 3, Bloodborne and MGSV this year, two of which are 10s, and one of which is a personal masterpiece for me. I'd say 2015 is a good year. And next year we have Dark Souls 3.

And people say this gen sucks.

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#35  Edited By Elaisse
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Didnt they say their 10s were a rare thing.

This gen does suck 10s are being handed out like candy now, its the new 7

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#36 onesiphorus
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I am waiting to see whether the Phantom Pain will be the last game GameSpot will give a 10 score this year.

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#37 Elaisse
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Nope still got Zedla U coming out.

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#38 Pikminmaniac
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Don't let review scores decide for you when a game is great. Just look at MGS4 and GTA4. Both are considered somewhat mediocre compared to the rest of their respective franchises. The general public and professional reviewers don't agree a lot of the time.

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#39  Edited By NJRicand
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@jg4xchamp: I'm just curious. Can you name any games on the PC that didn't come to a console first that's actually good? I'm being serious. I was just browsing the reviews section of this site and all I was seeing were 4-5-6 and 7s for PC game reviews. That doesn't seem like a good "system" to own when most of your games can't score higher than a 6.

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Been a interesting year to watch unfold, although the Journey review literally made me lol, but it was Kevin so that sort of 'gaming' is up his alley.

The odd part is the omission of details on the online components and the microtransactions in MGSV; before Gamespot would delay the release of reviews to account for that, or release early review impressions and then finanlize the review after playing the complete package... but here? Bizarre.

Can't comment yet on Witcher 3 or Bayonetta 2 though.

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#41 Heil68
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@Basinboy said:

You are missing one.

The Witcher 3

Journey

MGSV

All reviewed on PS4.

awwww yeahhhh

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#42 KratosYOLOSwag
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PS4 leading in AAAAs this gen. Making its father, the PS3 proud.

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#43 darkangel115
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@Bigboi500 said:

It's funny how people's perception of games are so heavily influenced by review scores: an imaginary number created from the mind of a single individual's personal preference.

pretty much. I don't care for any of the GS 10s so far and none of the 9s either

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#44 GarGx1
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I must admit this MGSV review is a bit questionable. Review game time was at a Konami press event in a nice lavish hotel, not from review copies sent out to publications. It does make me wonder what sweeteners the invited attendees received.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2015/08/24/metal-gear-solid-v-the-phantom-pain-style-review-events-are-part-of-the-problem/

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#45  Edited By GarGx1
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@kratosyoloswag said:

PS4 leading in AAAAs this gen. Making its father, the PS3 proud.

Except none of them are exclusive to PS4, only the Wii U has that honour.

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@GarGx1 said:

I must admit this MGSV review is a bit questionable. Review game time was at a Konami press event in a nice lavish hotel, not from review copies sent out to publications. It does make me wonder what sweeteners the invited attendees received.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2015/08/24/metal-gear-solid-v-the-phantom-pain-style-review-events-are-part-of-the-problem/

That's really unsettling, like the article says, i don't doubt that MGSV is one hell of a game...but this "events" to review the game...they all look bad to they public eye to say the least, and it doesn't matter if they weren't "bought" by Konami, it still looks bad and it makes me doubt that perhaps the game is not as extraordinary as it may be told.

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#47  Edited By GarGx1
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@madsnakehhh: I'm looking forward to MGS V and I'm fairly sure it deserves good scores but reviewed at a corporate event by invite only is seriously sketchy.

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#48  Edited By JangoWuzHere
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@GarGx1 said:

I must admit this MGSV review is a bit questionable. Review game time was at a Konami press event in a nice lavish hotel, not from review copies sent out to publications. It does make me wonder what sweeteners the invited attendees received.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2015/08/24/metal-gear-solid-v-the-phantom-pain-style-review-events-are-part-of-the-problem/

That's been happening for years, this isn't new stuff.

If anything, it would be more likely that reviewers would score the game lower by having such a limited time to play such a massive game. Many reviewers have to skip a lot of content just to get a review out when they go to these press events.

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#49 jg4xchamp
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@njricand said:

@jg4xchamp: I'm just curious. Can you name any games on the PC that didn't come to a console first that's actually good? I'm being serious. I was just browsing the reviews section of this site and all I was seeing were 4-5-6 and 7s for PC game reviews. That doesn't seem like a good "system" to own when most of your games can't score higher than a 6.

Since we're limiting this to numbers, but: http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/score/metascore/year/pc/filtered?sort=desc

Pillars of Eternity, Cities Skylines, Kerbal Space Program, Crypt of the Necrodancer, Her Story, Heroes of the Storm, Invisible Inc, Technobabylon, Galactic Civilization 3, The Book of Unwritten Tales 2, Westerado: Double Barrel, Total War: Attila.

That's the PC exclusives that went 80 or better. Some of them will probably go over (Cities Skylines is, I assume the same for Invisible Inc and Technobabylon or something), but bottom line is the PC gets far too many games to easily be dismissed. Yeah most of the games are bad, because that's the nature of "most", because most games that come out, are pretty bad. But the PC's high volume of games, high volume of indie games, and the fact that it actually has a middle market gives it far more range exclusive wise, and more exclusives to get. To go along with every other advantage PC has.

-Customizable parts
-Multiple interface options
-An objectively superior online experience
-On balance the best version of major triple A multiplats due to higher framerate/resolution/more detailed visuals/etc

If you want to argue Bloodborne is a better exclusive than all of them? I actually wouldn't disagree. It's a damn fine game, but one exclusive doesn't overrule a platform that tends to get 10-15 worthwhile exclusives a year. No matter how good that game is, which is why I said these consoles suck if you're a PC gamer, they offer very little.

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#50 texasgoldrush
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MGSV will be as overrated as MGS4.

Witcher 3 has too many problems to be 10, its 9. Weak save import, bugs, and backwards difficulty curve.