Two 10s in the same year

How in the world does PC have objectively the best online? It has the cheapest online (free compared to 50-60 for PSN/XBL) but in no way is it better then XBL. there is no central system in PC gaming, Plus the large amount of cheaters/hackers and lack of good stable servers for 99% of the games I don't see how you can say it's objectively better then XBL. it's basically a free version of PSN that doesn't go down as often. I'd say objectively speaking it's XBL > PC > PSN > Nintendo. unless you are talking about value in which the "free" price tag of online PC gaming could for some be a better value then XBL at 60 a year.

Bloodborne was a 10/10 in my book.

This. I can find The Withcer 3 and MGS5 on the PC. I've not felt the need to upgrade to the PS4 yet and it's already in it's 2nd year.

@jg4xchamp: just want to thank you for not being an asshole in your response. That's a rare thing on here. I see your point but imo, those games that you mentioned are geared more to PC gamers.

I've been gaming since the the Atari era (Atari 2600 to be exact). Growing up, PC and console gamers were very different. Not trying to sound like and ass or anything but we've (console gamers) always considered PC gamers nerds (when I was growing up).

Games like MYST were the type of games PC gamers were known for. I know it's different now but I still believe that more PC gamers than not are the nerdy type. I'm only using the word nerdy for the lack of a better word. Definitely not trying to disrespect.

I'm actually still confused as to how PC got into this whole console war thing.

these days review scores don't mean shit to me and to a lot of other people too. It's a miracle gamespot and others did not score MGSV lower due to some kind of social criticizing like:

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GS is getting soft.

@Darkangel115 @Heil68@njricand@jgx4champ

Well it certainly smells fishy, all this tens and Van ord wasn't fired but he got a lot of criticism for a lot of his scores. They were either too low or too high, game reviews shouldn't be biased.

It baffles me that a game like metal gear solid V, the witcher 3 and journey get's a 10 but don't bring something new to the playing field. MGS V is basically build on a 2 decade old formula with previous gen graphics. The witcher 3 is only a basic action rpg, with great graphics. The graphics are better than skyrim yes, but it's 2015 and gameplay wise it can't even touch skyrim, nor other big name rpg's like dark souls and dragon's dogma.

Journey is original and has good gameplay, but it looks and plays like an indie game. Not that indie games can't be great, but mostly they're not.

Professionalism is not this site strongest point, that also has its charm, nowhere we have fights like on system wars but it would be really nice to get some reviewers that are less biased. Games shouldn't get tens that easily.

I made a poll here a month ago; about what games deserve a 10/10. Well, there weren't any games in there that got a 10 on this site and the first place was shared by the last of us and resident evil 4.

You can find the poll here

See I'm not disagreeing with the idea that there are demographics, but if you're a gaming enthusiast all you really care about are good games. Now does that mean you dig every genre? No, but I don't subscribe to they are only "geared at more PC gamers". If you like your games to challenge you mentally as opposed to just reflexed, you're going to appreciate the puzzle games, the strategy games, and the what have you. If you dig story telling in this medium, why wouldn't you appreciate a quality adventure game? You get what I'm saying. But the nerdy comment, I don't disagree at all, by its nature if you're a PC gamer, it's because you're a damn enthusiast of this medium. And I mean proper PC gaming, not fucking facebook, and not the person who onlys play Dota 2/LOL.

You spent the most amount of money to get the ideal version of most games and give yourself options. Consoles are likely to get the enthusiasts, but by their very nature also have broader appeal.

Personally I've been a big believer of this since last gen, when Japanese games started becoming a bit irrelevant last gen, and became a shell of their former glory (albeit with some major exceptions), these consoles lost their identity a bit. Their argument against the PC for years were those japanese styled games that were exclusive mostly, and nowadays they don't come out frequently enough. In the case of the Xbox One and PS4 they are built on the back of genres, franchises, games made by developers that made their hey on PC, and became console developers because money. So what we got are streamlined version of the western games that the PC always had on consoles, and because of that the consoles sort of lose an edge that they used to have.

Part of it is the evolution of consoles, part of it when you get older your needs/requirements change a bit, but a lot of it is simply put we live in an era where the modern consoles are almost only getting exclusives that are first party deals. That makes these products less distinct than what they used to be, which is why the PC has gotten more and more into the argument. They've become more like weak PC's, then what the PS2 and even Xbox were at their time.

Free online, plenty of punkbuster styled services exist so some of the cheating is a bit blown out of proportions, multiplayer styled games that the consoles simply don't get enough of (RTS games, mobas, mmos) a wider variety of digital store fronts that the consoles don't have because their store fronts are basically the parent company, plenty of PC games have dedicated servers, damn good ones at that, and if they do go P2P have the benefit of staying around longer, server browsers over matchmaking so you have options, mods for customization and to extend the life of mp games. The nature of PC means you have access to things like mumble, other voip type apps, or freakin skype, and that's without getting into Xfire or Steam to build communities. It's not all at the touch of a button, but it's a PC, so it has all these different apps that are a glorified google search away from giving you everything you pay for XBL Gold.

Otherwise what actual advantage does XBL gold have, that doesn't revolve around "Accessibility", because anything XBLgold provides, the PC has, if not more so.

A lot of console indie games that are lauded by the community were originally exclusive to PC. Things like Rogue Legacy (PC: June 2013 | Consoles: June 2014) and Hotline Miami (PC: October 2013 | Consoles: June 2013) often garnish enough attention with their initial PC release to gain the interest of console publishers. This whole generation has seen an increased interest in the console market going after independent dev market presumably because so much success the PC platform and marketplaces are having selling these smaller games.

@texasgoldrush:

I'm not the only one who noticed the backwards difficulty curve then haha? Yah, it's wierd. Still I think it deserves its 10/10. An excellent story, great graphics, and decent gameplay from a small studio in Poland. For their first multiplat release I think it went quite well, eh?

I think Halo 5,QB,and Gears of War 4 has a good chance for a 10/10.

Yes i know it's free, i said cheaper but cheaper =/= better so throw that out the window. The fact you need to have 3rd party anti-cheat programs speaks volumes. thats a negative towards PC gaming, and even then they aren't 100%. as someone who has gamed online for 10 years or so with PC PS and XB systems, I've never once encountered a hacker on XBL despite a much larger usage. meanwhile on PC they were rampant. hell even defiance, which i started playing on PC i stopped and got the 360 version because the PC version was riddled with hackers. They would even brag about it on forums and post youtube videos they made. it completely ruined it for me and I had to switch to console for it. Yes PC gets more MMos, MOBAs, and RTS, but realistically quantity =/= quality. most of the best ones get ported to consoles now.

And again that's games and not the online service itself. Next you say store fronts? again that's not online service either. I'm talking about straight up MP gaming online and the features that go with not. not more options on how to buy. Even if that's the case, I'd still give it to XBL for the ease of moving from console to console. I can go to a friends house, log in and access every save file and game as it if were my own. with PC that's not the case because you have different store fronts (steam, GMG, GOG Origin, etc) and all PC gamers hate origin and sometimes have no choice. and lets not forget about how bad uplay is for PC. Most PC games don't have dedicated servers , unless they are player or dev provided they won't have them. at least with XBL, every MS published game will have them.

I haven't found an online experience on PC anywhere near the halo 5 beta, gears ultimate, sunset overdrive, titanfall, etc. Titanfall is the smoothest online game on PC and thats because it's using XBL servers. I can't even tolerate P2P anymore. it's an instant deal breaker to me. And i don't play the same game for years anyway, i move onto newer games. By the time servers get shut down, i stopped playing long ago. Mods are a nice feature for games (like skyrim and fallout) but again, thats not online service. As far as voice apps go, none work as well as XBL party chat or sound as good. I usually use skype myself and it's nowhere near as good as XBL party chat for some reason. and it's all integrated and a touch of a button. smart match making, avoid system, rep system, easy party set up (where PC is game specific for setting a party, XBL is integrated into the OS getting a game party set up is much easier on XBL then PC.

I was expecting something like that to happen, to be honest.

Anthony Burch is such a loser.

Why are people's excuse that gamespot is handing out 10s super easily?

Since 98 to now 2015 going on 17 years how many games have gotten a 10?

How many that got a 10 deserved a 10 latey? Zero. I mean Bayo 2? Nope. Witcher 3? LOL Maybe MGSV but I wouldn't know that for sure yet.

not everyone in the 90s that care about gameplay feel the same as you. you make it seem like its somehow a standard to same share opinions as you lol