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#1 starjet905
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http://www.videogamer.com/pc/assassins_creed_4_black_flag/news/assassins_creed_4_producer_says_pc_optimisation_isnt_important.html

Now, AC IV works nicely on my end, so I've actually been recommending it to other people with AMD cards, unlike with AC3, but this is disgusting. Good thing I haven't pre-ordered Watch Dogs, and now I will not get it until I can confirm it works well here.

Why do they even make PC ports of games if this is the attitude they have? Why not just go console only?

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#2 GioVela2010
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Lmao

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#3  Edited By treedoor
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I haven't bought a Ubisoft game on PC in a long time for reasons like this.

It's sad that a company like Square Enix puts out amazing ports on the PC, but companies like Ubisoft, and EA just don't care at all. Companies that actually try(tried) to make their own Steam-like programs on the PC.

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#4 edwardecl
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AC IV only runs at 30FPS most of the time on my system no matter what graphics settings I lower.

But then again it only runs at 30FPS on the PS4 and my system specs are quite similar GPU wise.

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#5 Snugenz
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What a twat he is, sure everyone has access to better GPU's (a multiple GPU configs) but not a whole lot of people have the disposable income to buy those GPUs.

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#7  Edited By NFJSupreme
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and this is why ubisoft games suck on PC. Good thing EA is going all in with Mantle.

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@mistatakeapista said:

@treedoor: @edwardecl: @Snugenz: @GioVela2010:

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#9 silversix_
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good thing Ubi can't make games worth buying

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#10 AmazonTreeBoa
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Wait...what's wrong with Assassin's Creed 3 on PC? I plan on getting it, but not if it is screwed up.

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#11  Edited By DefconRave
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Apart from Far Cry 3, all their games have been crap ports. Ghost Recon FS is a good game but the optimisation is a joke. From Dust/AC3/M&M6 same

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#12  Edited By IgGy621985
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I'm pretty satisfied with AC4 performance with everything turned to the highest settings, and I don't even have top of the line graphics card. GTX 660 Ti OC 3GB.

The game looks amazing, and it plays amazing. Imho, it's the best AC title to date.

Also, I'm not sure what's the fuss about performance issues on high-end systems.

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#13 uninspiredcup
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Graphics is the least of it problems. Assasins Creed is a non-game. It has no challenge, no fucking point what so ever in playing.

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#14 lunar1122
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no problems on my side, my 7970 is destroying it. I hear the pirated version is locked at 30... Figures why the pirates are complaining

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@lunar1122: Source?

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#16  Edited By starjet905
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@AmazonTreeBoa said:

Wait...what's wrong with Assassin's Creed 3 on PC? I plan on getting it, but not if it is screwed up.

If you have an Nvidia card, chances are it'll run well. But AMD cards are a different matter. At the same time, if you have a very powerful CPU, it'll be decent either way.

@uninspiredcup said:

Graphics is the least of it problems. Assasins Creed is a non-game. It has no challenge, no fucking point what so ever in playing.

"Challenge is the only way to enjoy a game," said the fool.

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and even then it runs/looks better than the xbone version, lmao consoles

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@Jankarcop said:

and even then it runs/looks better than the xbone version, lmao consoles

Not on your PC

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@GioVela2010 said:

@Jankarcop said:

and even then it runs/looks better than the xbone version, lmao consoles

Not on your PC

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It require more than BF4 yes, but it still works fine on my PC. The game is great so far.

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#21 GioVela2010
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@GioVela2010 said:

@Jankarcop said:

and even then it runs/looks better than the xbone version, lmao consoles

Not on your PC

NOT ON YOUR PC

LMAO JANKAR

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@GioVela2010 said:

@GioVela2010 said:

@Jankarcop said:

and even then it runs/looks better than the xbone version, lmao consoles

Not on your PC

NOT ON YOUR PC

LMAO JANKAR

http://www.dsogaming.com/pc-performance-analyses/assassins-creed-iv-black-flag-pc-performance-analysis/

quote from the article

"Before continuing, let us tell you that the aforementioned system – despite the awful port that Ubisoft offered us – runs the game better than PS4 and Xbox One"

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@lunar1122 said:

@GioVela2010 said:

@GioVela2010 said:

@Jankarcop said:

and even then it runs/looks better than the xbone version, lmao consoles

Not on your PC

http://www.dsogaming.com/pc-performance-analyses/assassins-creed-iv-black-flag-pc-performance-analysis/

quote from the article

"Before continuing, let us tell you that the aforementioned system – despite the awful port that Ubisoft offered us –

runs the game better than PS4 and Xbox One"

Lmao Decimated.

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@silversix_ said:

good thing Ubi can't make games worth buying

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#25 -Unreal-
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Game runs fine if I don't use those fancy effects they were showing in the nVidia presentation. Things like PCSS, TXAA and enhanced god rays. Put the shadows on very high (not soft), FXAA instead of TXAA and god rays to low (which is the middle setting). Or I can enable them all and get drops to 35 or 40 FPS when in a busy island area.

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@lunar1122 said:

no problems on my side, my 7970 is destroying it. I hear the pirated version is locked at 30... Figures why the pirates are complaining

No it's not.Trust me i know.....

It's their loss really.I haven't bought an ubisoft game in a while and don't plan to unless they ditch uplay and put some actual effort into their ports.

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#27 uninspiredcup
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@starjet905 said:

"Challenge is the only way to enjoy a game," said the fool.

Being pretentious and self important will not stop me being right.

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#28 GioVela2010
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@lunar1122:

GTX 680's in SLI?

Lmao like I said, not in his PC

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@ShepardCommandr said:

@lunar1122 said:

no problems on my side, my 7970 is destroying it. I hear the pirated version is locked at 30... Figures why the pirates are complaining

No it's not.Trust me i know.....

It's their loss really.I haven't bought an ubisoft game in a while and don't plan to unless they ditch uplay and put some actual effort into their ports.

Weren't you posting about how you were playing the game on the PC forum?

someone is really getting into the spirit of piracy.

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#30 clyde46
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I expect Ubi to patch this within a week. Nvidia has been pushing Black Flag for ages with it Pirates, Spies and Hero's pack and I don't think Nvidia will just sit back and let this continue.

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#31 murray69murray
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Good thing I skipped on this one.

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#32  Edited By Caseytappy
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What's the problem Hermits ?

If you buy two new $500,- video cards in SLI every 5 to 6 months you'll be totally fine !

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#33 PernicioEnigma
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I don't buy Ubisoft developed games, but it's a shame when decent PC exclusives (such as the Anno series) are published by a company who evidently don't give a shit about PC or PC gamers.

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#34 Chrome-
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well said hahah

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#35 jhonMalcovich
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@AmazonTreeBoa said:

Wait...what's wrong with Assassin's Creed 3 on PC? I plan on getting it, but not if it is screwed up.

Nothing. It´s ok. I played it a few weeks ago and I was able to max it out completely with 60+fps.

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#36  Edited By jhonMalcovich
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Stop spreading the bullshit. Black Flags runs fine on PC

I am at

i5 4670k

GTX780

8GB

Soft Shadows at med

God rays at low

AA: TXAA 2x

Geting 50-60fps at all moment, even in the jungle.

The only people that don´t stop whining are the ones with GTX650/660 that complain that they don´t get 60 fps at maxed out settings at 1080p with their pretty average setups.

The game is not LOCKED at 30 fps. Their pc just can run the game maxed out at better fps becuase it´s a damn NEXT GEN game.

People just got PC exclusive next gen features from Nvidia such as TXAA antialising, god rays and soft shadows and they try to max out those features on their ass old gpus, as a result getting 30 fps, which still is quite playable, but not for those whiners who want to max out BF on Gtx650.

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@jhonMalcovich said:

Stop spreading the bullshit. Black Flags runs fine on PC

I am at

i5 4670k

GTX780

8GB

Soft Shadows at med

God rays at low

AA: TXAA 2x

Geting 50-60fps at all moment, even in the jungle.

The only people that don´t stop whining are the ones with GTX650/660 that complain that they don´t get 60 fps at maxed out settings at 1080p with their pretty average setups.

The game is not LOCKED at 30 fps. Their pc just can run the game maxed out at better fps becuase it´s a damn NEXT GEN game.

People just got PC exclusive next gen features from Nvidia such as TXAA antialising, god rays and soft shadows and they try to max out those features on their ass old gpus, as a result getting 30 fps, which still is quite playable, but not for those whiners who want to max out BF on Gtx650.

The result doesn't justify the hardware

You gotta remember at some point those 2-3 year old cards were one of the best cards in the world.

And now they can't even run some random Ubisoft game properly.

Ubisoft says "**** you, we're gonna put out shit code, get more flops bitch."

This is endemic to the PC and one of my biggest pet peeves.

The hardware ponzi scheme between developers and card makers, putting more and more layers between the software and the hardware, and then expecting you to get ever more beastly hardware just to run a game at acceptable framerates.

If it wasn't for consoles pushing specs down, you'd need a fucking Titan to run this piece of shit at 60 frames.

Instead of getting mad at this, instead of saying "no, this is unacceptable" people like you just upgrade hardware and make excuses.

Is AC4 even a graphics king? Is it the next Crysis?

No it's just another random game, nothing special, and you need a $400 card to run it properly.

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@ZombieKiller7 said:

@jhonMalcovich said:

Stop spreading the bullshit. Black Flags runs fine on PC

I am at

i5 4670k

GTX780

8GB

Soft Shadows at med

God rays at low

AA: TXAA 2x

Geting 50-60fps at all moment, even in the jungle.

The only people that don´t stop whining are the ones with GTX650/660 that complain that they don´t get 60 fps at maxed out settings at 1080p with their pretty average setups.

The game is not LOCKED at 30 fps. Their pc just can run the game maxed out at better fps becuase it´s a damn NEXT GEN game.

People just got PC exclusive next gen features from Nvidia such as TXAA antialising, god rays and soft shadows and they try to max out those features on their ass old gpus, as a result getting 30 fps, which still is quite playable, but not for those whiners who want to max out BF on Gtx650.

The result doesn't justify the hardware

You gotta remember at some point those 2-3 year old cards were one of the best cards in the world.

And now they can't even run some random Ubisoft game properly.

Ubisoft says "**** you, we're gonna put out shit code, get more flops bitch."

This is endemic to the PC and one of my biggest pet peeves.

The hardware ponzi scheme between developers and card makers, putting more and more layers between the software and the hardware, and then expecting you to get ever more beastly hardware just to run a game at acceptable framerates.

If it wasn't for consoles pushing specs down, you'd need a fucking Titan to run this piece of shit at 60 frames.

Instead of getting mad at this, instead of saying "no, this is unacceptable" people like you just upgrade hardware and make excuses.

Is AC4 even a graphics king? Is it the next Crysis?

No it's just another random game, nothing special, and you need a $400 card to run it properly.

I agree. It shouldn't take a GTX 780 to run this game with all the bells and whistles. A 670 has more than enough muscle and that is a gen old now and the prices reflect that.

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#39  Edited By jhonMalcovich
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@ZombieKiller7 said:

@jhonMalcovich said:

Stop spreading the bullshit. Black Flags runs fine on PC

I am at

i5 4670k

GTX780

8GB

Soft Shadows at med

God rays at low

AA: TXAA 2x

Geting 50-60fps at all moment, even in the jungle.

The only people that don´t stop whining are the ones with GTX650/660 that complain that they don´t get 60 fps at maxed out settings at 1080p with their pretty average setups.

The game is not LOCKED at 30 fps. Their pc just can run the game maxed out at better fps becuase it´s a damn NEXT GEN game.

People just got PC exclusive next gen features from Nvidia such as TXAA antialising, god rays and soft shadows and they try to max out those features on their ass old gpus, as a result getting 30 fps, which still is quite playable, but not for those whiners who want to max out BF on Gtx650.

The result doesn't justify the hardware

You gotta remember at some point those 2-3 year old cards were one of the best cards in the world.

And now they can't even run some random Ubisoft game properly.

Ubisoft says "**** you, we're gonna put out shit code, get more flops bitch."

This is endemic to the PC and one of my biggest pet peeves.

The hardware ponzi scheme between developers and card makers, putting more and more layers between the software and the hardware, and then expecting you to get ever more beastly hardware just to run a game at acceptable framerates.

If it wasn't for consoles pushing specs down, you'd need a fucking Titan to run this piece of shit at 60 frames.

Instead of getting mad at this, instead of saying "no, this is unacceptable" people like you just upgrade hardware and make excuses.

Is even a graphics king? Is it the next Crysis?

No it's just another random game, nothing special, and you need a $400 card to run it properly.

Actually AC4 is a graphic king for me. I will make a thread later that proves it. AC4 has some next gen graphics features that owners of older gpus should turn off, and play the game at the settings they had being playing before.

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#40  Edited By jhonMalcovich
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@clyde46 said:

@ZombieKiller7 said:

@jhonMalcovich said:

Stop spreading the bullshit. Black Flags runs fine on PC

I am at

i5 4670k

GTX780

8GB

Soft Shadows at med

God rays at low

AA: TXAA 2x

Geting 50-60fps at all moment, even in the jungle.

The only people that don´t stop whining are the ones with GTX650/660 that complain that they don´t get 60 fps at maxed out settings at 1080p with their pretty average setups.

The game is not LOCKED at 30 fps. Their pc just can run the game maxed out at better fps becuase it´s a damn NEXT GEN game.

People just got PC exclusive next gen features from Nvidia such as TXAA antialising, god rays and soft shadows and they try to max out those features on their ass old gpus, as a result getting 30 fps, which still is quite playable, but not for those whiners who want to max out BF on Gtx650.

The result doesn't justify the hardware

You gotta remember at some point those 2-3 year old cards were one of the best cards in the world.

And now they can't even run some random Ubisoft game properly.

Ubisoft says "**** you, we're gonna put out shit code, get more flops bitch."

This is endemic to the PC and one of my biggest pet peeves.

The hardware ponzi scheme between developers and card makers, putting more and more layers between the software and the hardware, and then expecting you to get ever more beastly hardware just to run a game at acceptable framerates.

If it wasn't for consoles pushing specs down, you'd need a fucking Titan to run this piece of shit at 60 frames.

Instead of getting mad at this, instead of saying "no, this is unacceptable" people like you just upgrade hardware and make excuses.

Is AC4 even a graphics king? Is it the next Crysis?

No it's just another random game, nothing special, and you need a $400 card to run it properly.

I agree. It shouldn't take a GTX 780 to run this game with all the bells and whistles. A 670 has more than enough muscle and that is a gen old now and the prices reflect that.

It doesn´t take a GTX780 to run it.

Nvidia has posted optimal graphic settings. If you stick to them, you will get 40-60fps in Black Flag, But people ignore those suggestions and go for the best and get 30 fps as a result.

http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/guides/assassins-creed-iv-black-flag-graphics-and-performance-guide

Assassin’s Creed IV: Black Flag Optimal Playable Settings

If you do like fiddling, here are game setting recommendations for the most popular GPUs, with the aim of maintaining at least forty frames per second at all times at 1920x1080, the most popular gaming resolution. Our settings should be considered a starting point for your own personal config as we’re unable to account for differing CPUs and overclocks in this table. Please note that our results may differ greatly from your own if you use a Dual Core CPU or older Quad Core CPU, like the Q6600. Also note that the recommendations below were made using a pre-release build - if significant performance differences are discovered we will update accordingly.

1920x1080AAAOEnv. QualityGod RaysReflectionsShadowsTexturesVol. Fog
GTX TITANFXAAHBAO+ (High)Very HighHighHighSoft (Med)HighOn
GTX 780 TiMSAA 2xHBAO+ (High)Very HighHighHighSoft (High)HighOn
GTX 780FXAAHBAO+ (High)Very HighLowHighSoft (Med)HighOn
GTX 770FXAAHBAO+ (High)Very HighLowNormalSoft (Med)HighOn
GTX 760FXAAHBAO+ (High)Very HighLowNormalVery HighHighOn
GTX 690TXAA 4xHBAO+ (High)Very HighHighHighSoft (High)HighOn
GTX 680FXAAHBAO+ (High)Very HighLowNormalSoft (Med)HighOn
GTX 670FXAAHBAO+ (High)Very HighLowNormalVery HighHighOn
GTX 660 TiFXAAHBAO+ (High)HighLowNormalVery HighHighOff
GTX 660FXAASSAOHighOffNormalHighHighOff
GTX 650 Ti BoostFXAASSAOHighOffNormalHighHighOff
GTX 650 TiFXAASSAONormalOffNormalHighHighOff
GTX 650FXAASSAOLowOffNormalNormalHighOff
GTX 590FXAAHBAO+ (High)Very HighLowNormalSoft (Med)HighOn
GTX 580FXAASSAOHighOffNormalHighHighOff
GTX 570FXAASSAOHighOffNormalHighHighOff
GTX 560FXAASSAONormalOffNormalHighHighOff
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#41  Edited By RyviusARC
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@jhonMalcovich: Those recommended settings are a bit meh.

I was able to run the game at 30+ fps just fine with everything maxed except for AA set to SMAA with a GTX 570.

Although I did have my GTX 570 oced to a core clock of 920mhz.

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#42  Edited By Fishsticklover
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Well that's going to be a problem since most Hermits have a low spec PC that hold gaming back

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#43  Edited By ZombieKiller7
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@jhonMalcovich said:

@clyde46 said:

@ZombieKiller7 said:

@jhonMalcovich said:

Stop spreading the bullshit. Black Flags runs fine on PC

I am at

i5 4670k

GTX780

8GB

Soft Shadows at med

God rays at low

AA: TXAA 2x

Geting 50-60fps at all moment, even in the jungle.

The only people that don´t stop whining are the ones with GTX650/660 that complain that they don´t get 60 fps at maxed out settings at 1080p with their pretty average setups.

The game is not LOCKED at 30 fps. Their pc just can run the game maxed out at better fps becuase it´s a damn NEXT GEN game.

People just got PC exclusive next gen features from Nvidia such as TXAA antialising, god rays and soft shadows and they try to max out those features on their ass old gpus, as a result getting 30 fps, which still is quite playable, but not for those whiners who want to max out BF on Gtx650.

The result doesn't justify the hardware

You gotta remember at some point those 2-3 year old cards were one of the best cards in the world.

And now they can't even run some random Ubisoft game properly.

Ubisoft says "**** you, we're gonna put out shit code, get more flops bitch."

This is endemic to the PC and one of my biggest pet peeves.

The hardware ponzi scheme between developers and card makers, putting more and more layers between the software and the hardware, and then expecting you to get ever more beastly hardware just to run a game at acceptable framerates.

If it wasn't for consoles pushing specs down, you'd need a fucking Titan to run this piece of shit at 60 frames.

Instead of getting mad at this, instead of saying "no, this is unacceptable" people like you just upgrade hardware and make excuses.

Is AC4 even a graphics king? Is it the next Crysis?

No it's just another random game, nothing special, and you need a $400 card to run it properly.

I agree. It shouldn't take a GTX 780 to run this game with all the bells and whistles. A 670 has more than enough muscle and that is a gen old now and the prices reflect that.

It doesn´t take a GTX780 to run it.

Nvidia has posted optimal graphic settings. If you stick to them, you will get 40-60fps in Black Flag, But people ignore those suggestions and go for the best and get 30 fps as a result.

http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/guides/assassins-creed-iv-black-flag-graphics-and-performance-guide

Assassin’s Creed IV: Black Flag Optimal Playable Settings

If you do like fiddling, here are game setting recommendations for the most popular GPUs, with the aim of maintaining at least forty frames per second at all times at 1920x1080, the most popular gaming resolution. Our settings should be considered a starting point for your own personal config as we’re unable to account for differing CPUs and overclocks in this table. Please note that our results may differ greatly from your own if you use a Dual Core CPU or older Quad Core CPU, like the Q6600. Also note that the recommendations below were made using a pre-release build - if significant performance differences are discovered we will update accordingly.

1920x1080AAAOEnv. QualityGod RaysReflectionsShadowsTexturesVol. Fog
GTX TITANFXAAHBAO+ (High)Very HighHighHighSoft (Med)HighOn
GTX 780 TiMSAA 2xHBAO+ (High)Very HighHighHighSoft (High)HighOn
GTX 780FXAAHBAO+ (High)Very HighLowHighSoft (Med)HighOn
GTX 770FXAAHBAO+ (High)Very HighLowNormalSoft (Med)HighOn
GTX 760FXAAHBAO+ (High)Very HighLowNormalVery HighHighOn
GTX 690TXAA 4xHBAO+ (High)Very HighHighHighSoft (High)HighOn
GTX 680FXAAHBAO+ (High)Very HighLowNormalSoft (Med)HighOn
GTX 670FXAAHBAO+ (High)Very HighLowNormalVery HighHighOn
GTX 660 TiFXAAHBAO+ (High)HighLowNormalVery HighHighOff
GTX 660FXAASSAOHighOffNormalHighHighOff
GTX 650 Ti BoostFXAASSAOHighOffNormalHighHighOff
GTX 650 TiFXAASSAONormalOffNormalHighHighOff
GTX 650FXAASSAOLowOffNormalNormalHighOff
GTX 590FXAAHBAO+ (High)Very HighLowNormalSoft (Med)HighOn
GTX 580FXAASSAOHighOffNormalHighHighOff
GTX 570FXAASSAOHighOffNormalHighHighOff
GTX 560FXAASSAONormalOffNormalHighHighOff

So even with a Titan you have to set shadows to medium?

lol

Also good job Ubisoft, using blurry FXAA, I really wanted to bring the console experience to my desktop.

Lazy fucks.

I'll rent this turd on my PS3

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#44  Edited By jhonMalcovich
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@ZombieKiller7 said:

@jhonMalcovich said:

@clyde46 said:

@ZombieKiller7 said:

@jhonMalcovich said:

Stop spreading the bullshit. Black Flags runs fine on PC

I am at

i5 4670k

GTX780

8GB

Soft Shadows at med

God rays at low

AA: TXAA 2x

Geting 50-60fps at all moment, even in the jungle.

The only people that don´t stop whining are the ones with GTX650/660 that complain that they don´t get 60 fps at maxed out settings at 1080p with their pretty average setups.

The game is not LOCKED at 30 fps. Their pc just can run the game maxed out at better fps becuase it´s a damn NEXT GEN game.

People just got PC exclusive next gen features from Nvidia such as TXAA antialising, god rays and soft shadows and they try to max out those features on their ass old gpus, as a result getting 30 fps, which still is quite playable, but not for those whiners who want to max out BF on Gtx650.

The result doesn't justify the hardware

You gotta remember at some point those 2-3 year old cards were one of the best cards in the world.

And now they can't even run some random Ubisoft game properly.

Ubisoft says "**** you, we're gonna put out shit code, get more flops bitch."

This is endemic to the PC and one of my biggest pet peeves.

The hardware ponzi scheme between developers and card makers, putting more and more layers between the software and the hardware, and then expecting you to get ever more beastly hardware just to run a game at acceptable framerates.

If it wasn't for consoles pushing specs down, you'd need a fucking Titan to run this piece of shit at 60 frames.

Instead of getting mad at this, instead of saying "no, this is unacceptable" people like you just upgrade hardware and make excuses.

Is AC4 even a graphics king? Is it the next Crysis?

No it's just another random game, nothing special, and you need a $400 card to run it properly.

I agree. It shouldn't take a GTX 780 to run this game with all the bells and whistles. A 670 has more than enough muscle and that is a gen old now and the prices reflect that.

It doesn´t take a GTX780 to run it.

Nvidia has posted optimal graphic settings. If you stick to them, you will get 40-60fps in Black Flag, But people ignore those suggestions and go for the best and get 30 fps as a result.

http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/guides/assassins-creed-iv-black-flag-graphics-and-performance-guide

Assassin’s Creed IV: Black Flag Optimal Playable Settings

If you do like fiddling, here are game setting recommendations for the most popular GPUs, with the aim of maintaining at least forty frames per second at all times at 1920x1080, the most popular gaming resolution. Our settings should be considered a starting point for your own personal config as we’re unable to account for differing CPUs and overclocks in this table. Please note that our results may differ greatly from your own if you use a Dual Core CPU or older Quad Core CPU, like the Q6600. Also note that the recommendations below were made using a pre-release build - if significant performance differences are discovered we will update accordingly.

1920x1080AAAOEnv. QualityGod RaysReflectionsShadowsTexturesVol. Fog
GTX TITANFXAAHBAO+ (High)Very HighHighHighSoft (Med)HighOn
GTX 780 TiMSAA 2xHBAO+ (High)Very HighHighHighSoft (High)HighOn
GTX 780FXAAHBAO+ (High)Very HighLowHighSoft (Med)HighOn
GTX 770FXAAHBAO+ (High)Very HighLowNormalSoft (Med)HighOn
GTX 760FXAAHBAO+ (High)Very HighLowNormalVery HighHighOn
GTX 690TXAA 4xHBAO+ (High)Very HighHighHighSoft (High)HighOn
GTX 680FXAAHBAO+ (High)Very HighLowNormalSoft (Med)HighOn
GTX 670FXAAHBAO+ (High)Very HighLowNormalVery HighHighOn
GTX 660 TiFXAAHBAO+ (High)HighLowNormalVery HighHighOff
GTX 660FXAASSAOHighOffNormalHighHighOff
GTX 650 Ti BoostFXAASSAOHighOffNormalHighHighOff
GTX 650 TiFXAASSAONormalOffNormalHighHighOff
GTX 650FXAASSAOLowOffNormalNormalHighOff
GTX 590FXAAHBAO+ (High)Very HighLowNormalSoft (Med)HighOn
GTX 580FXAASSAOHighOffNormalHighHighOff
GTX 570FXAASSAOHighOffNormalHighHighOff
GTX 560FXAASSAONormalOffNormalHighHighOff

So even with a Titan you have to set shadows to medium?

lol

Also good job Ubisoft, using blurry FXAA, I really wanted to bring the console experience to my desktop.

Lazy fucks.

I'll rent this turd on my PS3

It´s soft shadows, dynamic day/night shadows that change by intensity of light. A next gen feature. If you turn to nomal shadows, you will get like 80fps on Titan.

Besides, using FXAA is a slight exaggeration from Nvidia. I easily swtiched to TXAA 2x and barely had any performance hit.

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So John

Splain to me please

Why would Ubisoft put out a game with features that no known card can max out?

Is it to possibly, oh I dunno, help Nvidia sell the next $1000 video card?

Before the ink on the receipt of your new 780Ti even dries.

Your $2000 PC is now a console - playing games at lower than max settings.

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#46  Edited By jhonMalcovich
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@ZombieKiller7 said:

So John

Splain to me please

Why would Ubisoft put out a game with features that no known card can max out?

Is it to possibly, oh I dunno, help Nvidia sell the next $1000 video card?

Before the ink on the receipt of your new 780Ti even dries.

Your $2000 PC is now a console - playing games at lower than max settings.

I wasn´t Ubisoft, it was Nividia who did this to promote their latest GPUs. Anyway nobody forces you to run and buy the latest Nvidia´s GPU flagship. Just stick to the recommended settings for your GPU. It´s that simple. And even if you max out you will get stable 30 fps and play the game at better quality than PS4.

Anyway, a wise PC gamer should not max out everything at 1080p, as higher levels of AA (antialising), for example, is only noticeable at higher than 1080p resolutions, but cause a noticeable performance hit.

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#47  Edited By ZombieKiller7
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@jhonMalcovich said:

@ZombieKiller7 said:

So John

Splain to me please

Why would Ubisoft put out a game with features that no known card can max out?

Is it to possibly, oh I dunno, help Nvidia sell the next $1000 video card?

Before the ink on the receipt of your new 780Ti even dries.

Your $2000 PC is now a console - playing games at lower than max settings.

I wasn´t Ubisoft, it was Nividia who did this to promote their latest GPUs. Anyway nobody forces you to run and buy the latest Nvidia´s GPU flagship. Just stick to the recommended settings for your GPU. It´s that simple. And even if you max out you will get stable 30 fps and play the game at better quality than PS4.

Anyway, a wise PC gamer should max out everything at 1080p, as higher AA, for example, is only noticeable at higher than 1080p resolutions, but cause a noticeable performance hit.

So on the one hand you're promoting PC gaming as an "everyman" option for people who maybe have $500 or $700 to spend

And on the other hand you're saying "build a $2000 rig ever 3 years or go the **** home."

Which is it?

Cocksmokers like Nvidia price people out of PC gaming so that the %0.001 who can afford their top cards can feel good about themselves.

And that's supposed to be progress?

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#48  Edited By jhonMalcovich
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@ZombieKiller7 said:

@jhonMalcovich said:

@ZombieKiller7 said:

So John

Splain to me please

Why would Ubisoft put out a game with features that no known card can max out?

Is it to possibly, oh I dunno, help Nvidia sell the next $1000 video card?

Before the ink on the receipt of your new 780Ti even dries.

Your $2000 PC is now a console - playing games at lower than max settings.

I wasn´t Ubisoft, it was Nividia who did this to promote their latest GPUs. Anyway nobody forces you to run and buy the latest Nvidia´s GPU flagship. Just stick to the recommended settings for your GPU. It´s that simple. And even if you max out you will get stable 30 fps and play the game at better quality than PS4.

Anyway, a wise PC gamer should max out everything at 1080p, as higher AA, for example, is only noticeable at higher than 1080p resolutions, but cause a noticeable performance hit.

So on the one hand you're promoting PC gaming as an "everyman" option for people who maybe have $500 or $700 to spend

And on the other hand you're saying "build a $2000 rig ever 3 years or go the **** home."

Which is it?

I build my recent rig from scratch which is

i5 4770k

gtx780

8GB

for 1100$.

Not even close to 2000$.

Secondly, I promote PC gaming as an "everyman" option for ease of use due to Steam/Origin/Uplay simplicity, cheap games, free online, and games that you keep with every gen.

I own like 250 games on my Steam, Origin, Uplay and Gog accounts. How many games an average console gamer has, like 20, 50 max ?

I don´t promote PC gaming as a cheap option, I always said that one must spend at least 1000$ on PC for the optimal experience.

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#49 ZombieKiller7
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@jhonMalcovich said:

@ZombieKiller7 said:

@jhonMalcovich said:

@ZombieKiller7 said:

So John

Splain to me please

Why would Ubisoft put out a game with features that no known card can max out?

Is it to possibly, oh I dunno, help Nvidia sell the next $1000 video card?

Before the ink on the receipt of your new 780Ti even dries.

Your $2000 PC is now a console - playing games at lower than max settings.

I wasn´t Ubisoft, it was Nividia who did this to promote their latest GPUs. Anyway nobody forces you to run and buy the latest Nvidia´s GPU flagship. Just stick to the recommended settings for your GPU. It´s that simple. And even if you max out you will get stable 30 fps and play the game at better quality than PS4.

Anyway, a wise PC gamer should max out everything at 1080p, as higher AA, for example, is only noticeable at higher than 1080p resolutions, but cause a noticeable performance hit.

So on the one hand you're promoting PC gaming as an "everyman" option for people who maybe have $500 or $700 to spend

And on the other hand you're saying "build a $2000 rig ever 3 years or go the **** home."

Which is it?

I build my recent rig from scratch which is

i5 4770k

gtx780

8GB

for 1100$.

Not even close to 2000$.

Secondly, I promote PC gaming as an "everyman" option for ease of use due to Steam/Origin/Uplay simplicity, cheap games, free online, and games that you keep with every gen.

I own like 250 games on my Steam, Origin, Uplay and Gog accounts. How many games an average console gamer has, like 20, 50 max ?

I don´t promote PC gaming as a cheap option, I always said that one must spend at least 1000$ on PC for the optimal experience.

You realize however that these are not "everyman" options.

Most folks don't have the knowledge, money or spare time to build and maintain a gaming rig.

It's a %1'er hobby and companies like Nvidia push it further in that direction.