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#51  Edited By danjammer69
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@starjet905:

I guess I consider myself lucky.

I have AC IV running on my PC with an SLI GTX460 (1GB) setup. I have everything maxed except for AA (@1080) and am getting good framerates and overall performance.

It runs between 45-60fps with rare dips to around 38fps when things get crazy.

Also, I think the game is beautiful. Not graphics king level, but I am a sucker for that tropical environment. I have already amassed a folder full of screenshots.

*Edit: Not sure, but I hear the game has advanced options for newer Nvidia cards. So that may be why I am getting such decent performance, but not sure. I don't remember seeing any settings for TXAA or the like. Not that my GPUs would be able to run it anyhow.

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#52  Edited By jhonMalcovich
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@ZombieKiller7 said:

@jhonMalcovich said:

@ZombieKiller7 said:

@jhonMalcovich said:

@ZombieKiller7 said:

So John

Splain to me please

Why would Ubisoft put out a game with features that no known card can max out?

Is it to possibly, oh I dunno, help Nvidia sell the next $1000 video card?

Before the ink on the receipt of your new 780Ti even dries.

Your $2000 PC is now a console - playing games at lower than max settings.

I wasn´t Ubisoft, it was Nividia who did this to promote their latest GPUs. Anyway nobody forces you to run and buy the latest Nvidia´s GPU flagship. Just stick to the recommended settings for your GPU. It´s that simple. And even if you max out you will get stable 30 fps and play the game at better quality than PS4.

Anyway, a wise PC gamer should max out everything at 1080p, as higher AA, for example, is only noticeable at higher than 1080p resolutions, but cause a noticeable performance hit.

So on the one hand you're promoting PC gaming as an "everyman" option for people who maybe have $500 or $700 to spend

And on the other hand you're saying "build a $2000 rig ever 3 years or go the **** home."

Which is it?

I build my recent rig from scratch which is

i5 4770k

gtx780

8GB

for 1100$.

Not even close to 2000$.

Secondly, I promote PC gaming as an "everyman" option for ease of use due to Steam/Origin/Uplay simplicity, cheap games, free online, and games that you keep with every gen.

I own like 250 games on my Steam, Origin, Uplay and Gog accounts. How many games an average console gamer has, like 20, 50 max ?

I don´t promote PC gaming as a cheap option, I always said that one must spend at least 1000$ on PC for the optimal experience.

You realize however that these are not "everyman" options.

Most folks don't have the knowledge, money or spare time to build and maintain a gaming rig.

It's a %1'er hobby and companies like Nvidia push it further in that direction.

Gaming in general is not "everyman" option, as it´s just an expensive hobby, especially if we compare it to mobile/tablet gaming.

So yeh, I think PC gaming is as valid as console gaming. And both of them are minuscule and hard to learn compared to mobile gaming.

So should we always go for the easiest and most affordable option which is mobile gaming, or should we seek a better quality ?

Shoud console gaming have an upper hand just for being easy and dumbed down ?

I am a gamer, it´s my hobby, and I seek a better experience first, and check the price second. So i don´t see why PC should not be "everyman" option inside a dedicated gaming community, which is SW of Gamespot, among people that have been arround for years.

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#53 Locutus_Picard
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@jhonMalcovich "/Origin/Uplay simplicity," You mean Uplay that gets hacked on a regular basis and Origin that simply sucks dick? PC games are getting fragmented over shitty services, don't list that shit as a positive. Ubi knows that PC gamers won't take a stand like the mw3 boycott so they can do this.

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#54 SakusEnvoy
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This kind of mentality makes it really tempting to just buy a $399 box and stop worrying about lazy ports for the next 7 years. I love PC gaming but I don't like making GPU upgrades that I shouldn't have to just because of lazy ports.

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@SakusEnvoy said:

This kind of mentality makes it really tempting to just buy a $399 box and stop worrying about lazy ports for the next 7 years. I love PC gaming but I don't like making GPU upgrades that I shouldn't have to just because of lazy ports.

except you dont have to buy a better gpu for bad ports, because a bad port is a bad port. It's even sadder when you realize the bad pc porting job is still running better and looking better than its console counterparts

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#56 freedomfreak  Online
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@wis3boi said:

except you dont have to buy a better gpu for bad ports, because a bad port is a bad port. It's even sadder when you realize the bad pc porting job is still running better and looking better than its console counterparts

Your sig is just lulz. Oh man.

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#57  Edited By ZombieKiller7
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@jhonMalcovich said:

@ZombieKiller7 said:

@jhonMalcovich said:

@ZombieKiller7 said:

@jhonMalcovich said:

@ZombieKiller7 said:

So John

Splain to me please

Why would Ubisoft put out a game with features that no known card can max out?

Is it to possibly, oh I dunno, help Nvidia sell the next $1000 video card?

Before the ink on the receipt of your new 780Ti even dries.

Your $2000 PC is now a console - playing games at lower than max settings.

I wasn´t Ubisoft, it was Nividia who did this to promote their latest GPUs. Anyway nobody forces you to run and buy the latest Nvidia´s GPU flagship. Just stick to the recommended settings for your GPU. It´s that simple. And even if you max out you will get stable 30 fps and play the game at better quality than PS4.

Anyway, a wise PC gamer should max out everything at 1080p, as higher AA, for example, is only noticeable at higher than 1080p resolutions, but cause a noticeable performance hit.

So on the one hand you're promoting PC gaming as an "everyman" option for people who maybe have $500 or $700 to spend

And on the other hand you're saying "build a $2000 rig ever 3 years or go the **** home."

Which is it?

I build my recent rig from scratch which is

i5 4770k

gtx780

8GB

for 1100$.

Not even close to 2000$.

Secondly, I promote PC gaming as an "everyman" option for ease of use due to Steam/Origin/Uplay simplicity, cheap games, free online, and games that you keep with every gen.

I own like 250 games on my Steam, Origin, Uplay and Gog accounts. How many games an average console gamer has, like 20, 50 max ?

I don´t promote PC gaming as a cheap option, I always said that one must spend at least 1000$ on PC for the optimal experience.

You realize however that these are not "everyman" options.

Most folks don't have the knowledge, money or spare time to build and maintain a gaming rig.

It's a %1'er hobby and companies like Nvidia push it further in that direction.

Gaming in general is not "everyman" option, as it´s just an expensive hobby, especially if we compare it to mobile/tablet gaming.

So yeh, I think PC gaming is as valid as console gaming. And both of them are minuscule and hard to learn compared to mobile gaming.

So should we always go for the easiest and most affordable option which is mobile gaming, or should we seek a better quality ?

Shoud console gaming have an upper hand just for being easy and dumbed down ?

I am a gamer, it´s my hobby, and I seek a better experience first, and check the price second. So i don´t see why PC should not be "everyman" option inside a dedicated gaming community, which is SW of Gamespot, among people that have been arround for years.

Gaming is very much an "everyman" option, even Obama knows what a Wii is or what an Xbox is.

No one knows wtf a gtx780 is, try it sometime, walk into a garage or hair dresser and say you just bought a gtx780, watch the stares you get.

It's like you're not even part of everyday society, you're from another planet.

Everything has a cost/benefit

Should I get card X or card Y? One is more expensive, is the performance worth it?

By your logic nobody should game on anything except a gtx780 or better.

Ubisoft and Nvidia in one fell swoop have turned lower-rung PC gamers into peasants.

People who paid $700 or $1000 or even $2000 3-4 years ago to build a rig or run this game on cheaper cards, will be getting the console experience.

You remember the thread about "The only benefit of PC gaming is better graphics?"

People like you prove that stereotype correct, in that you're not only willing to diss the hardware in consoles (only on the basis of pixels) but also indirectly shitting on PC gamers with lower hardware.

But I guess that's par for the course for PC Gamers, the lot of them seem to be elitist dicks.

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#58 R4gn4r0k
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Yeah, their Watch Dogs requirements were laughable for a game that has been in development for PC for so long.

It was clear to me that they put no effort into optimizing when both the minimum and recommended specs were so close together.

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#59  Edited By deactivated-59b71619573a1
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What they really meant was "Our games run like shit and we're bad at optomising for PC"

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#60  Edited By jhonMalcovich
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@ZombieKiller7 said:

@jhonMalcovich said:

@ZombieKiller7 said:

@jhonMalcovich said:

@ZombieKiller7 said:

@jhonMalcovich said:

@ZombieKiller7 said:

So John

Splain to me please

Why would Ubisoft put out a game with features that no known card can max out?

Is it to possibly, oh I dunno, help Nvidia sell the next $1000 video card?

Before the ink on the receipt of your new 780Ti even dries.

Your $2000 PC is now a console - playing games at lower than max settings.

I wasn´t Ubisoft, it was Nividia who did this to promote their latest GPUs. Anyway nobody forces you to run and buy the latest Nvidia´s GPU flagship. Just stick to the recommended settings for your GPU. It´s that simple. And even if you max out you will get stable 30 fps and play the game at better quality than PS4.

Anyway, a wise PC gamer should max out everything at 1080p, as higher AA, for example, is only noticeable at higher than 1080p resolutions, but cause a noticeable performance hit.

So on the one hand you're promoting PC gaming as an "everyman" option for people who maybe have $500 or $700 to spend

And on the other hand you're saying "build a $2000 rig ever 3 years or go the **** home."

Which is it?

I build my recent rig from scratch which is

i5 4770k

gtx780

8GB

for 1100$.

Not even close to 2000$.

Secondly, I promote PC gaming as an "everyman" option for ease of use due to Steam/Origin/Uplay simplicity, cheap games, free online, and games that you keep with every gen.

I own like 250 games on my Steam, Origin, Uplay and Gog accounts. How many games an average console gamer has, like 20, 50 max ?

I don´t promote PC gaming as a cheap option, I always said that one must spend at least 1000$ on PC for the optimal experience.

You realize however that these are not "everyman" options.

Most folks don't have the knowledge, money or spare time to build and maintain a gaming rig.

It's a %1'er hobby and companies like Nvidia push it further in that direction.

Gaming in general is not "everyman" option, as it´s just an expensive hobby, especially if we compare it to mobile/tablet gaming.

So yeh, I think PC gaming is as valid as console gaming. And both of them are minuscule and hard to learn compared to mobile gaming.

So should we always go for the easiest and most affordable option which is mobile gaming, or should we seek a better quality ?

Shoud console gaming have an upper hand just for being easy and dumbed down ?

I am a gamer, it´s my hobby, and I seek a better experience first, and check the price second. So i don´t see why PC should not be "everyman" option inside a dedicated gaming community, which is SW of Gamespot, among people that have been arround for years.

Gaming is very much an "everyman" option, even Obama knows what a Wii is or what an Xbox is.

No one knows wtf a gtx780 is, try it sometime, walk into a garage or hair dresser and say you just bought a gtx780, watch the stares you get.

It's like you're not even part of everyday society, you're from another planet.

Everything has a cost/benefit

Should I get card X or card Y? One is more expensive, is the performance worth it?

By your logic nobody should game on anything except a gtx780 or better.

Ubisoft and Nvidia in one fell swoop have turned lower-rung PC gamers into peasants.

People who paid $700 or $1000 or even $2000 3-4 years ago to build a rig or run this game on cheaper cards, will be getting the console experience.

You remember the thread about "The only benefit of PC gaming is better graphics?"

People like you prove that stereotype correct, in that you're not only willing to diss the hardware in consoles (only on the basis of pixels) but also indirectly shitting on PC gamers with lower hardware.

But I guess that's par for the course for PC Gamers, the lot of them seem to be elitist dicks.

Yeh ? And PCs are not "everyman" tool in their everyday lives ? You are assuming that all people are blatant morons with an inteligence of an ape.

Obama doesn´t know what a gtx780 is because he´s not as a gamer as we are.

But I, you, and millions of other dedicated gamers know what a gtx780 is.

By your logic nobody should game on PC. But without PC you would be still gaming 2d Mario on snes.

Good day to you. Enjoy your 720p, uber expensive games on a plastic box specifcally designed for morons, where you have to pay a subscription in order to pay a subscription.

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@jhonMalcovich said:

Yeh ? And PCs are not "everyman" tool in their everyday lives ? You are assuming that all people are blatant morons with an inteligence of an ape.

Obama doesn´t know what a gtx780 is because he´s not as a gamer as we are.

But I, you, and millions of other dedicated gamers know what a gtx780 is.

By your logic nobody should game on PC. But without PC you would be still gaming 2d Mario on snes.

Good dooy to you. Enjoy your 720p, uber expensive game on a plastic box expecially adopted for morons.

Computers are everyman tools, gaming rigs aren't.

Lots of ppl play Facebook, not many people can run Crysis.

Good day to you too, enjoy your broken console ports.

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#62 clyde46
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Well, this game is shit. GTX 780Ti and it can't break 30FPS with V-sync on.

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#63  Edited By Jankarcop
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@ZombieKiller7 said:

@jhonMalcovich said:

Yeh ? And PCs are not "everyman" tool in their everyday lives ? You are assuming that all people are blatant morons with an inteligence of an ape.

Obama doesn´t know what a gtx780 is because he´s not as a gamer as we are.

But I, you, and millions of other dedicated gamers know what a gtx780 is.

By your logic nobody should game on PC. But without PC you would be still gaming 2d Mario on snes.

Good dooy to you. Enjoy your 720p, uber expensive game on a plastic box expecially adopted for morons.

Computers are everyman tools, gaming rigs aren't.

Lots of ppl play Facebook, not many people can run Crysis.

Good day to you too, enjoy your broken console ports.

Which are, at the end of the day, still better on PC.

"Before continuing, let us tell you that the aforementioned system – despite the awful port that Ubisoft offered us –runs the game better than PS4 and Xbox One"

Enjoy inferior gaming, factually speaking. Oh and keep trolling. I double dare you.

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It's a good job that most of their games aren't worth buying.

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ACIV is a shitty port but it still runs better than the PS4/XB1 versions for me.

The lowest I've seen it go is 35 FPS, and I have everything maxed out with SMAA.

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@Jankarcop said:

@ZombieKiller7 said:

@jhonMalcovich said:

Yeh ? And PCs are not "everyman" tool in their everyday lives ? You are assuming that all people are blatant morons with an inteligence of an ape.

Obama doesn´t know what a gtx780 is because he´s not as a gamer as we are.

But I, you, and millions of other dedicated gamers know what a gtx780 is.

By your logic nobody should game on PC. But without PC you would be still gaming 2d Mario on snes.

Good dooy to you. Enjoy your 720p, uber expensive game on a plastic box expecially adopted for morons.

Computers are everyman tools, gaming rigs aren't.

Lots of ppl play Facebook, not many people can run Crysis.

Good day to you too, enjoy your broken console ports.

Which are, at the end of the day, still better on PC.

"Before continuing, let us tell you that the aforementioned system – despite the awful port that Ubisoft offered us –runs the game better than PS4 and Xbox One"

Enjoy inferior gaming, factually speaking. Oh and keep trolling. I double dare you.

Enjoy spending time, money and inconvenience to compete with a VCR.

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#67 Jankarcop
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I don't spend more time and inconvenience. I'm not sucky at using a PC.

Ofcourse it costs more, its better in every way.

Zombietroller.

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@Jankarcop said:

I don't spend more time and inconvenience. I'm not sucky at using a PC.

Ofcourse it costs more, its better in every way.

Zombietroller.

No you're just sucky at posting and logic and being honest

Jangarchode lol

At this moment I am installing drivers after replacing hard drive lol, yeah it's not an inconvenience. If I could get gaming right now I wouldn't be sitting here talking to you

Why don't you go find Kinthalas and give him a blowjob.

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#69  Edited By superclocked
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O_o.. He said the complete opposite. He said that they're developing the games for PC first, and then porting them to consoles, so they don't need to optimize for PC anymore..

"The new platforms are a lot closer to PC, so my engineers could do the R&D on PC and we knew it would work fairly easily on next-gen platforms. It needed to be adapted, but everything does."

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@SakusEnvoy said:

This kind of mentality makes it really tempting to just buy a $399 box and stop worrying about lazy ports for the next 7 years. I love PC gaming but I don't like making GPU upgrades that I shouldn't have to just because of lazy ports.

He's actually saying the opposite in the article. He says that the new console architectures are very close to PC, so they're developing on PC first and porting to consoles this gen...

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@clyde46 said:

Well, this game is shit. GTX 780Ti and it can't break 30FPS with V-sync on.

Vsync locks it weird, it's like when Crysis 1's Vsync would lock it to 24fps

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#72 Jankarcop
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@ZombieKiller7 said:

@Jankarcop said:

I don't spend more time and inconvenience. I'm not sucky at using a PC.

Ofcourse it costs more, its better in every way.

Zombietroller.

No you're just sucky at posting and logic and being honest

Jangarchode lol

At this moment I am installing drivers after replacing hard drive lol, yeah it's not an inconvenience. If I could get gaming right now I wouldn't be sitting here talking to you

Why don't you go find Kinthalas and give him a blowjob.

Sit down troll.

Drivers arguement was so 2002 sw.

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@superclocked said:

@SakusEnvoy said:

This kind of mentality makes it really tempting to just buy a $399 box and stop worrying about lazy ports for the next 7 years. I love PC gaming but I don't like making GPU upgrades that I shouldn't have to just because of lazy ports.

He's actually saying the opposite in the article. He says that the new console architectures are very close to PC, so they're developing on PC first and porting to consoles this gen...

Well explain to me why this game runs like crap on my high end system...

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#74 superclocked
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@clyde46 said:

@superclocked said:

@SakusEnvoy said:

This kind of mentality makes it really tempting to just buy a $399 box and stop worrying about lazy ports for the next 7 years. I love PC gaming but I don't like making GPU upgrades that I shouldn't have to just because of lazy ports.

He's actually saying the opposite in the article. He says that the new console architectures are very close to PC, so they're developing on PC first and porting to consoles this gen...

Well explain to me why this game runs like crap on my high end system...

There are just a ton of hardware configurations. Have you tried any beta drivers?