Ubisoft fails. AC2 already leaked and cracked.

I don't agree with some of these DRMs but I'm wondering how they're planning to solve this. Piracy is seriously growing out of control.

Sooner or later the software companies are going to sue Intel, AMD, nVidia for not even attempting to counter this since they benefit from it. If you don't have to consider the costs of games you're more willing to spend some more on more expensive hardware.

You can never counter piracy, protection software websites say the same thing. All it has to do is make it very time-consuming or present a large enough difficulty so the cracked version comes out way too late or simply isn't as accessible as it is now to the casuals. I wonder if they can't ask Sony for some help. Sony and Crypkey. Hmmm.

CAPSROGUE

[QUOTE="xhawk27"]

PC gaming is going to go away in the next few years. Pirates are only destroying PC gaming don't they realize this?

cornholio157

im sure some do but then others just dont care becuase there to busy enjoying their free games and laughing at the rest of us who actually pay for a game.

this is one reason im glad steam exists for, pay once and its mine forever, no activations,cant lose the disk and dont have to deal with disk checks and the like.

[QUOTE="killzonexbox"]

[QUOTE="xhawk27"]

Stealing is stealing. :|

Brownesque

i agreed.......

What software "piracy" is is the violation of an exclusivity of distribution grant issued by the government. In other words it is the violation of a government issued monopoly.

Don't get an ethics issue confused with an economics one.

[QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

if you problem with that then why not buy the game + download the "other" version as well :P so you can play the game without DRM and at the same time feel like you havent stolen a copy :D

Brownesque

[QUOTE="Modern_Unit"]

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

I support piracy for this.

Revan_911

Umm...yea....stealing money from devs....who wouldnt want to support that?

[QUOTE="Revan_911"][QUOTE="Modern_Unit"]

Umm...yea....stealing money from devs....who wouldnt want to support that?

HuusAsking

Oh and guys ATTENTION PLEASE. The game is leaked true, but it's only the russian version and no crack is in sight, so UBI DRM is still standing strong.Doubtfull it will last long tough.

I'm entitled to resell games. Says so in the 1976 Copyright Act. You want to stop used game sales? Make the darn things worth keeping.HuusAsking

Isn't that a US-only thing?

Gee. What, a surprise.

Lets stop pirating, by encouraging it. Brilliant. I swear people, really?. Its honestly not hard to believe either. Pirates are in and out with this sort of thing. Leave it to one expert and by the morning after, it spreads like a virus. Pirating will always be a problem. You dont put the fire out with more fire.

At this point piracy is pretty much unavoidable, even digital distribution can do nothing to stop it. The best these developers can do is treat core PC gamers with respect and focus on the fanbase that won't choose to pirate some of these titles (regular updates, expansions, ad-ons, customer/dev interaction etc). They need to establish an audience like Valve has done among other PC centric studios, ridiculous DRM tactics such as this only condone Piracy imo.

So what? It's still stealing from developers, who spent money and effort to bring that game to you. Used games are no better than piracy, it's just legal.

Oh and guys ATTENTION PLEASE. The game is leaked true, but it's only the russian version and no crack is in sight, so UBI DRM is still standing strong.Doubtfull it will last long tough.

Revan_911

So I take you have never bought or sold anything used?

would just think one would be hyped If they created a successful and easy to use DRM not happy that pirates cracked it so pc users can pirate still at all time highs.WilliamRLBaker

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Millennium_Copyright_Act

It's illegal.

Brownesque

Stand back son *points to post count* let's hope double_decker doesn't come in here and doesn't screw us over with his lvl 33 and 145000 posts

GTR2addict

I laugh at Ubisoft's expense. :lol:

But do regret buying ACII and supporting the creation of this DRM system.

I wonder if the rumor about this DRM being based on Massgate is true. If yes, then that's really sad for Massive...

seems like they should try and shut down torrent sites they make it too easy i even used it once to get ME2 and it was too easy how is torrent still around people will always crack the game why not shut down they way people get itmurat8

They can't. The pirates host from countries with weak or nonexistent laws on the matter. And the software has plenty of legitimate uses too. I know a few MMOs that officially offer their client in this manor. Also linux distros.

[QUOTE="opex07"]

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_Pedro_

So true...

agreed......

[QUOTE="CAPSROGUE"]

I don't agree with some of these DRMs but I'm wondering how they're planning to solve this. Piracy is seriously growing out of control.

Sooner or later the software companies are going to sue Intel, AMD, nVidia for not even attempting to counter this since they benefit from it. If you don't have to consider the costs of games you're more willing to spend some more on more expensive hardware.

You can never counter piracy, protection software websites say the same thing. All it has to do is make it very time-consuming or present a large enough difficulty so the cracked version comes out way too late or simply isn't as accessible as it is now to the casuals. I wonder if they can't ask Sony for some help. Sony and Crypkey. Hmmm.

HuusAsking

[QUOTE="Brownesque"][QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

if you problem with that then why not buy the game + download the "other" version as well :P so you can play the game without DRM and at the same time feel like you havent stolen a copy :D

HuusAsking

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

It was leaked on p2p sites and within 2 hours a crack was made. Great deal of help their crippiling drm system did. now only the legit customers have to suffer because of ubisofts poorly considered plan. I dont condone piracy but anyone could have told them that going overboard on this drm scheme would end very badly.

ZIMdoom

This is just idiotic over-rationalization. So PC developers are desperate to stop PC piracy, which hermits claim isn't really THAT bad despite most likely having tons of pirated crap on their HDDs. Ubisoft makes an attempt at stopping piracy of one of their games...which people crack and pirate...and it is somehow UBISOFT'S fault that they are pirating it?

Please. This is BS. This is such BS that even Penny Arcade making a comic mocking it. PC users are pirates. Period. Now I'm not judging them because I can admit to pirating things, at times, myself. I'm not innocent, but I don't go around making excuses as if to pretend I'm doing something great and noble. That is just insulting.

Piracy is rampant on PCs and hermits are only ensuring that more and more developers continue to treat consoles as their first choice. This wasn't done because people were angry at Ubisoft's piracy "protection", they were doing it because they were going to pirate the game anyway.

How can you just generalise a whole group of gamers, who make up the largest amount of the whole gaming industry, bigger than all three consoles combined? There are loads of PC gamers who don't pirate anything. Does that make them a pirate? I don't think so...

No they didnt, instead of being cracked in 5-10 minutes it took 2 hours! Patience people! Progress takes time! In due time!

[QUOTE="ZIMdoom"]

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

It was leaked on p2p sites and within 2 hours a crack was made. Great deal of help their crippiling drm system did. now only the legit customers have to suffer because of ubisofts poorly considered plan. I dont condone piracy but anyone could have told them that going overboard on this drm scheme would end very badly.

RichardStallman

This is just idiotic over-rationalization. So PC developers are desperate to stop PC piracy, which hermits claim isn't really THAT bad despite most likely having tons of pirated crap on their HDDs. Ubisoft makes an attempt at stopping piracy of one of their games...which people crack and pirate...and it is somehow UBISOFT'S fault that they are pirating it?

Please. This is BS. This is such BS that even Penny Arcade making a comic mocking it. PC users are pirates. Period. Now I'm not judging them because I can admit to pirating things, at times, myself. I'm not innocent, but I don't go around making excuses as if to pretend I'm doing something great and noble. That is just insulting.

Piracy is rampant on PCs and hermits are only ensuring that more and more developers continue to treat consoles as their first choice. This wasn't done because people were angry at Ubisoft's piracy "protection", they were doing it because they were going to pirate the game anyway.

And, i think you can get banned for confessing to piracy here or something along those lines :D, not sure tho

I dont think it has been cracked...

There's an image of the game on torrents but you can't do anything with it since there's no crack yet.

IT WILL PROBABLY be cracked, but so far it hasnt... There is people working on it but so far they havent been succesfull... If you go to the most famous P2P web you will see it. I bought it from Steam yesterday. I know it is a big issue for many people here, but not for me, I play WoW all the time , that also stops working when you loose your internet conection... and more people thinks like me as it is the second game more purchased in Steam. I dont like DRM but it dosent bother me eaither.

People should be a bit more grateful to UBISOFT. They at least port their games to the PC unlike many other companies. AC 1 was a good port and I enjoyed finishing it on the PC, therefore I bought AC2.

Haha, sweet.

EDIT: Meh... I looked but the only version I found was Russian and uncracked.

-_-; Fact of the matter is You need other ways of convincing people to pay than DRM's and security.
That's simply the truth.
Even in our highest systems like politics and court to airfield security corruption seeps through and You can't keep a hold on it with more rules or security since they are using the rules and positions to get it done. It is above rules and behind security. The only way to keep a hold on anything in the long run is to raise a general awareness of the right thing to do / the consequences and satisfying the people.

Waiting for the English version.danishkhan

[QUOTE="danishkhan"]Waiting for the English version.MotherRussia

I do most of my gaming on PC, but I don't have a single pirated game on my HD & have never done so. Sure I would love to have games for free, but I find people whom do this downright dispicable & a disgrace to mankind.

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

I support piracy for this.

xhawk27

Stealing is stealing. :|

No object is lost there for nothing is stolen. Excuse me if I don't cry if a billion dollar corporation treating it's customers like criminals gets taught a lesson.

They need to find a solution that will help them in their particular situationTexasGameboy

The solution is to stop thinking of piracy as lost sales and to focus on things that might actually encourage people to buy their products.

[QUOTE="TexasGameboy"]They need to find a solution that will help them in their particular situationThePlothole

The solution is to stop thinking of piracy as lost sales and to focus on things that might actually encourage people to buy their products.

+1 for gamers -1 for tyrannysurrealnumber5

+1 for pirates -1 for devs trying to make money....

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]+1 for gamers -1 for tyrannyModern_Unit

+1 for pirates -1 for devs trying to make money....

No object is lost there for nothing is stolen. Excuse me if I don't cry if a billion dollar corporation treating it's customers like criminals gets taught a lesson.

Pixel-Pirate

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

No object is lost there for nothing is stolen. Excuse me if I don't cry if a billion dollar corporation treating it's customers like criminals gets taught a lesson.

Teufelhuhn

Not if they treat their customers poorly. I'm sure coke puts alot of work into it's drink but if they started selling 1 oz bottles for 20 dollars, or demand you call in and check up with them whenever you want to drink coke.

You can create something and do whatever you want with it but if you start acting like a tyrant or just all out stupid, people will take action against you and the excuse "But...but it's mine!" will ring hollow to them. Especially once they've given you money and feel the product is just as much theirs as it is yours.

Please stop acting like ubisoft is some mom and pop store. They're a multi million dollar company.

[QUOTE="Modern_Unit"]

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]+1 for gamers -1 for tyrannysurrealnumber5

+1 for pirates -1 for devs trying to make money....

Agreed. Being a company does not make you some good guy hero. If you begin abusing your customers I won't shed a tear when they turn on you.

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="Modern_Unit"]

+1 for pirates -1 for devs trying to make money....

Pixel-Pirate

Agreed. Being a company does not make you some good guy hero. If you begin abusing your customers I won't shed a tear when they turn on you.

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

No object is lost there for nothing is stolen. Excuse me if I don't cry if a billion dollar corporation treating it's customers like criminals gets taught a lesson.

Pixel-Pirate

Not if they treat their customers poorly. I'm sure coke puts alot of work into it's drink but if they started selling 1 oz bottles for 20 dollars, or demand you call in and check up with them whenever you want to drink coke.

You can create something and do whatever you want with it but if you start acting like a tyrant or just all out stupid, people will take action against you and the excuse "But...but it's mine!" will ring hollow to them. Especially once they've given you money and feel the product is just as much theirs as it is yours.

Please stop acting like ubisoft is some mom and pop store. They're a multi million dollar company.

That's exactly the point. You haven't given Ubisoft ANY compensation for the costs in porting and releasing the game on another platform.

You can create something and do whatever you want with it but if you start acting like a tyrant or just all out stupid, people will take action against you and the excuse "But...but it's mine!" will ring hollow to them. Especially once they've given you money and feel the product is just as much theirs as it is yours.

Pixel-Pirate

Please stop acting like ubisoft is some mom and pop store. They're a multi million dollar company.

Pixel-Pirate

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

No object is lost there for nothing is stolen. Excuse me if I don't cry if a billion dollar corporation treating it's customers like criminals gets taught a lesson.

Teufelhuhn

[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

You can create something and do whatever you want with it but if you start acting like a tyrant or just all out stupid, people will take action against you and the excuse "But...but it's mine!" will ring hollow to them. Especially once they've given you money and feel the product is just as much theirs as it is yours.

Teufelhuhn

Please stop acting like ubisoft is some mom and pop store. They're a multi million dollar company.

Pixel-Pirate

If the companies actions succeed and they continue to do this in hurting their customers it will give the green light to other developers to purpousley hurt their customers as well. I cannot support that and I support anything to show a development company that doing these type of things never works, it never has and it never will. All it does is make people resent you.

Big companies will lay off the little guy after their product fails to sell due to highly intrusive DRM that was most likely thought up by a high up in the company. In other words the little guy will end up being punished for the big guys failures.

And the difference between pirating from a small tiny company and from ubisoft is that one company may be unable to afford any loss and the other has funds to spare. That doesn't make it right to pirate from either one, I'm not saying it does, but I would consider it worse to pirate from the little guy then from the big guy who can take a hit or two.