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[QUOTE="Danthegamingman"][QUOTE="aka_aj03"]If anything was downgraded it was graphics because of PS3's weaker GPU.lmao you really believe that tooThe new trailer looks down graded thanks to the 360.. this is not me... Rock Star been saying it too back then but in kind words.
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Liquid-GEAR
lmao its funny because its true
The new trailer looks down graded thanks to the 360.. this is not me... Rock Star been saying it too back then but in kind words.
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aka_aj03
and whats with the sig with the guy killing all the lil gurls? girl you like doesn't like you back huh?
I dont see why MS did not want to have HDD as standard. I know that they wanted the console to be cheaper and all, but it has meant that the console wont be able to keep up with this gen. And scince most games are ported to the ps3, it must suffer for this. Sony made a console that would be able to produce better looking and bigger games, with short loading times, yes it more expensive. But I hate games with long loading times. They gave xbox a hard drive, why not the 360?
But then the ps3 would take longer to make, which is bad. But if they have enough money, which should be fine after all the sales of GTA games, then the games will turn out looking better. I would like to see a GTA ps3 and 360 exclusive, both maxing out the console. I would like to see which is best. I would put my money on the ps3 one.
I dont see why MS did not want to have HDD as standard. I know that they wanted the console to be cheaper and all, but it has meant that the console wont be able to keep up with this gen. And scince most games are ported to the ps3, it must suffer for this. Sony made a console that would be able to produce better looking and bigger games, with short loading times, yes it more expensive. But I hate games with long loading times. They gave xbox a hard drive, why not the 360?
But then the ps3 would take longer to make, which is bad. But if they have enough money, which should be fine after all the sales of GTA games, then the games will turn out looking better. I would like to see a GTA ps3 and 360 exclusive, both maxing out the console. I would like to see which is best. I would put my money on the ps3 one.
NinjaMunkey01
Actually, the Xbox 360's Pioneer DVD drive has a much faster spin speed than BluRay. It can read data much faster, hence the reason why PS3 cross platforms often suffer from terrible loading times.
I will tell you why MS did not make the hdd standard, because it will allow them to always beat Sony in a price war and allow the X360 to hit the magic $199 mark probably a year before the PS3. Plus the most successful console last gen did not have a hdd standard. Its an option, if Rockstar wanted to they could use the X360 hdd and list that an hdd is required. Crackdown required an hdd for co-op, so its not unheard of andwe will see it more and more.I dont see why MS did not want to have HDD as standard. I know that they wanted the console to be cheaper and all, but it has meant that the console wont be able to keep up with this gen. And scince most games are ported to the ps3, it must suffer for this. Sony made a console that would be able to produce better looking and bigger games, with short loading times, yes it more expensive. But I hate games with long loading times. They gave xbox a hard drive, why not the 360?
But then the ps3 would take longer to make, which is bad. But if they have enough money, which should be fine after all the sales of GTA games, then the games will turn out looking better. I would like to see a GTA ps3 and 360 exclusive, both maxing out the console. I would like to see which is best. I would put my money on the ps3 one.
NinjaMunkey01
Since when has a game developer ever shown the worst version of a game to the public? Why would Rockstar show the 360 version unless it was equal/better then the PS3 counterpart?
Oh, And do you know it's a downgrade if the only version shown so far is the 360 version?
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ZIMdoom
Good job falling for the BS headline and completely omitting that the article mentioned that the PS3 has it's limitations also.
You get the slow clap for this great thread.
Wouldn't all those things you list fall under the category of "graphics"?
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Danthegamingman
Your "BIG FAT LINK" also says the PS3 has numerous problems that cause headaches as well. So the graphics were downgraded because of the 360...well you know what I think? I think that the framerate studders and chops because the PS3 doesn't have nearly enough RAM for a game of this size, and Oblivion agrees with me.
they have the same amount of ram plus ps3 ram has a way high clock speed
nope they don't because the PS3 OS uses roughly 90 mb of RAM where X360 uses 30 mb. Thats about 10% more availalbe RAM for X360 that is taking into account the developer knows how to effectively access the 256mb of RAM attached to the CEll without latency issues.Not true. The mb used by OS for the PS3 was reduced a long time ago.
The new trailer looks down graded thanks to the 360.. this is not me... Rock Star been saying it too back then but in kind words.
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aka_aj03
Downgraded as
- Assassins Creed on 360 ??? That runs 100x better than on PS3 and looks better too
- COD4 ??? That PS3 textures close up are like garbage ?
I do not think so, PS3 with it less RAM is the only reason for nay downgrade in multiplatform games so far
[QUOTE="RotaryRX7"]Link confirming PS3-exclusive content on disk, or you're making it up.We get content too, sir. It's already on the Blu-Ray disc, unlike you who has to pay for extra. :lol:
lowe0
There is NO such thing, it is only on the crazed minds of Ps3 fanboys, that can't stand the fact 360 will get 2 exclusive huge expansion packs later !!!
Both versions will be 100% same on launch
The only downgraded version will be the PS3 version with no extra content UGH.rexoverbey
You buy that DLC!!! That is only 30 minutes long a piece!!!
The 360 didnt degraded the game even tho the games was made 2 weeks before on ps3. The graphics in GTA games arent that pretty.
...this is old news. Very old news. The guys at Rockstar have been willingly admitting this for months now. I think it came out shortly after the new "E3" this year.
Lems, please don't even try to deny this... as much as you've got to hate it... the programmers of the game have said the 360 is holding it back. May be because of no hard drive, or the fact that the 360 doesn't have SPUs to do some of the graphics, or something like that. Not necessarially graphically holding it back, minus viewing distance.
And your puny argument for that "exclusive" content? Yeah, I'm sure if Sony paid Rockstar $25 million, they'd make exclusive content for the PS3.
ًًWTF guys?! GTA has never been about the graphics, I mean look at GTA:SA and VC, they look like crap comparing to other games on the PS2.
it's all about the gameplay. which looks awesome.
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[QUOTE="aka_aj03"]If anything was downgraded it was graphics because of PS3's weaker GPU.The new trailer looks down graded thanks to the 360.. this is not me... Rock Star been saying it too back then but in kind words.
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Danthegamingman
Dude, all that link really says is that the 360's without the hard drives will probably not run it as well as the ones with them. It does not say the game will be different.The new trailer looks down graded thanks to the 360.. this is not me... Rock Star been saying it too back then but in kind words.
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aka_aj03
The new trailer looks down graded thanks to the 360.. this is not me... Rock Star been saying it too back then but in kind words.
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aka_aj03
Why would this be the case? Every single game so far looks better on the 360. They also run better my friend was playing AC on his PS3, and when it locked up it actually erased his whole saved game.
[QUOTE="aka_aj03"]The new trailer looks down graded thanks to the 360.. this is not me... Rock Star been saying it too back then but in kind words.
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saolin323
Downgraded as
- Assassins Creed on 360 ??? That runs 100x better than on PS3 and looks better too
- COD4 ??? That PS3 textures close up are like garbage ?
I do not think so, PS3 with it less RAM is the only reason for nay downgrade in multiplatform games so far
lol no.
The only downgraded version will be the PS3 version with no extra content UGH.rexoverbey
That's not true. PS3 get exclusive content as well.
if you read the link you would know that the devs says they face challenges on both systems.... but if you want to tell only one side of the story thats cool too.......this is old news. Very old news. The guys at Rockstar have been willingly admitting this for months now. I think it came out shortly after the new "E3" this year.
Lems, please don't even try to deny this... as much as you've got to hate it... the programmers of the game have said the 360 is holding it back. May be because of no hard drive, or the fact that the 360 doesn't have SPUs to do some of the graphics, or something like that. Not necessarially graphically holding it back, minus viewing distance.
And your puny argument for that "exclusive" content? Yeah, I'm sure if Sony paid Rockstar $25 million, they'd make exclusive content for the PS3.
Khanezhyray
not having a harddrive standard does not affect graphics textures or framrate in any way. so that pisses on your bonfirenybritboy
Yeah but that means you will get pop in trees and other objects because it will have to be compressed onto a DVD9. For the PS3 version, it has a hard drive for every console and Blu-Ray is 25GB per layer! That would be a waste of a Blu-Ray disc if you ask me!
[QUOTE="aka_aj03"]The new trailer looks down graded thanks to the 360.. this is not me... Rock Star been saying it too back then but in kind words.
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saolin323
Downgraded as
- Assassins Creed on 360 ??? That runs 100x better than on PS3 and looks better too
- COD4 ??? That PS3 textures close up are like garbage ?
I do not think so, PS3 with it less RAM is the only reason for nay downgrade in multiplatform games so far
You never seen either on PS3 have you. You say: Assasins Creed "runs 100x better" Gamespot says: the PS3 version has the benefit of "better frame rate."
COD4 looks identical on both systems I've watched a million videos and the only differences I've seen are so minor you can't even argue. One video I saw PS3 had better lighting and more rain. Another video I saw X360 seemed brighter. In all reality they are so close it's ridiculous to try to make a point out of it. And last PS3 has the exact same amount of RAM the X360 does. PS3 256 + 256=512mb X360 also has 512mb.
[QUOTE="rexoverbey"]The only downgraded version will be the PS3 version with no extra content UGH.RotaryRX7
We get content too, sir. It's already on the Blu-Ray disc, unlike you who has to pay for extra. :lol:
The exclusive content coming to the XBox 360 will NOT be on the PS3. That's a fact. Whether it'll have to be paid for or not is still up in the air. All the content on the PS3 GTA IV will be on the XBox 360 GTA IV. There won't be any difference until Rockstar released the extra exclusive content for the 360 version. :P
[QUOTE="Khanezhyray"]if you read the link you would know that the devs says they face challenges on both systems.... but if you want to tell only one side of the story thats cool too.......this is old news. Very old news. The guys at Rockstar have been willingly admitting this for months now. I think it came out shortly after the new "E3" this year.
Lems, please don't even try to deny this... as much as you've got to hate it... the programmers of the game have said the 360 is holding it back. May be because of no hard drive, or the fact that the 360 doesn't have SPUs to do some of the graphics, or something like that. Not necessarially graphically holding it back, minus viewing distance.
And your puny argument for that "exclusive" content? Yeah, I'm sure if Sony paid Rockstar $25 million, they'd make exclusive content for the PS3.
killtactics
I was going on old news, screw reading a copy article. Guess it did have a little substance in it?
Their biggest problem with the 360 was actually lack of space on a the disc, and the accounting for no hard drive. Bit hard to do with no loading times...
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TheDarkDisciple
nice, you found an old article from an interview in playstation magazine :roll:
And it probably won't be downgraded because they can make it HD required.
i remember when PSU faked the interview with valve. TC just self-owned :lol:
...this is old news. Very old news. The guys at Rockstar have been willingly admitting this for months now. I think it came out shortly after the new "E3" this year.
Lems, please don't even try to deny this... as much as you've got to hate it... the programmers of the game have said the 360 is holding it back. May be because of no hard drive, or the fact that the 360 doesn't have SPUs to do some of the graphics, or something like that. Not necessarially graphically holding it back, minus viewing distance.
And your puny argument for that "exclusive" content? Yeah, I'm sure if Sony paid Rockstar $25 million, they'd make exclusive content for the PS3.
Khanezhyray
Sony paid Rockstar a LOT more then $25 million just to keep GTA on the PS2 all that time. Then a superior version of all 3 GTA games was released on the Xboxafter that. The programmers said thatboth system were limiting their ability to complete the game. It's not just the 360, but the PS3 as well.Most likely they are having problems with the low RAM and using the Cell processor properly. The PS3 archtecture is a mess. If Rockstar doesn't make GTA IVHDD required, they are idiots.
anyone know how big the 360 exlusive content is gonna be? i dont think i have enough space for this large scale content.
and for the "what is better" just buy what version is more convient to you.
[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"][QUOTE="rexoverbey"]The only downgraded version will be the PS3 version with no extra content UGH.100Gamer
That's not true. PS3 get exclusive content as well.
stop lying
Next time do your own research before you start calling people liars.
PS3 GTA IV has exclusive content
http://www.megagames.com/news/html/console/ps3willalsogetexclusivegtaivcontent.shtml
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=68768
thank to ps3 i have to wait because rockstar have to make the game working on the crappy ps3 hardware .rockstar don't want to have the same trouble ubisoft have with assassin creed on ps3 :)legol1
Ubisoft is a very casual developer, do you see them not porting it? I know most people think Ubi are all that... but I'm still waiting for a finished version of Rainbowsix Vegas.
Pissing in the wind am I not?
The new trailer looks down graded thanks to the 360.. this is not me... Rock Star been saying it too back then but in kind words.
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aka_aj03
Are you crazy?
PS3 and 360 multiplats come out in one of two ways: They are the same, or the 360 version is better. The only exception I can think of is Oblivion - but Oblivion had an EXTRA YEAR in development.
If anything the PS3 and its difficult development has been holding 360 games back - including the delay of GTA IV - which was held back due to the PS3.
[QUOTE="aka_aj03"]If anything was downgraded it was graphics because of PS3's weaker GPU.The new trailer looks down graded thanks to the 360.. this is not me... Rock Star been saying it too back then but in kind words.
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Danthegamingman
The new trailer looks down graded thanks to the 360.. this is not me... Rock Star been saying it too back then but in kind words.
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aka_aj03
So wait they were pretty much wondering if a version for 360's without HDD would be available. The only handicap would be if you didn't have a HDD so it isn't downgraded shaabaam. He said as long as you have HDD everything is still fine. topic fail.
[QUOTE="100Gamer"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"][QUOTE="rexoverbey"]The only downgraded version will be the PS3 version with no extra content UGH.EmperorSupreme
That's not true. PS3 get exclusive content as well.
stop lying
Next time do your own research before you start calling people liars.
PS3 GTA IV has exclusive content
http://www.megagames.com/news/html/console/ps3willalsogetexclusivegtaivcontent.shtml
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=68768
rockstar havent comfirmed this
[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"][QUOTE="100Gamer"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"][QUOTE="rexoverbey"]The only downgraded version will be the PS3 version with no extra content UGH.100Gamer
That's not true. PS3 get exclusive content as well.
stop lying
Next time do your own research before you start calling people liars.
PS3 GTA IV has exclusive content
http://www.megagames.com/news/html/console/ps3willalsogetexclusivegtaivcontent.shtml
http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=68768
rockstar havent comfirmed this
And T2 reports don't have anything on PS3 GTAIV episodic content.
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