Uh oh: Ubisoft demands high score for Assassins Creed 2 or no review copy

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#1 EvanTheGamer
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http://www.destructoid.com/ubisoft-demands-high-assassin-s-creed-2-review-score--154456.phtml

Ah so Gamespot aren't the only corrupted ones.

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#2 Frank2368
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already posted

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#3 789shadow
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Destructoid = source fail.

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#4 awssk8er716
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Like I said in the other thread, another reason why I don't trust reviews.

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#5 Animal-Mother
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Like I said in the other thread, another reason why I don't trust reviews.

awssk8er716
I don't know. I'd have to say Gamespot is pretty credible. I trust them when it comes to reviews
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#6 BioShockOwnz
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Buy ACII used. :) Ubi doesn't need the support.

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#7 DethSkematik
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Honestly, I really don't get it...same thing was done with Batman: AA, and it turned out to be a awesome game. No doubt Assassin's Creed 2 will be as great as the original (maybe better), so I don't see the need for that. Why are they becoming so insecure nowdays!?
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#8 TheArmyGuy48
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Jus sayin.

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#9 metalisticpain
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[QUOTE="awssk8er716"]

Like I said in the other thread, another reason why I don't trust reviews.

Animal-Mother
I don't know. I'd have to say Gamespot is pretty credible. I trust them when it comes to reviews

I don't know how you came to your conclusions, considering Gamespot is the only site I know that fired people who would not bow to corporate pressure and give an artificially inflated score to kane and lynch
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#10 skektek
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[QUOTE="awssk8er716"]

Like I said in the other thread, another reason why I don't trust reviews.

Animal-Mother

I don't know. I'd have to say Gamespot is pretty credible. I trust them when it comes to reviews

You must have missed the whole Gerstmanngate thing.

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#11 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="awssk8er716"]

Like I said in the other thread, another reason why I don't trust reviews.

skektek

I don't know. I'd have to say Gamespot is pretty credible. I trust them when it comes to reviews

You must have missed the whole Gerstmanngate thing.

No I was here for it. But didn't he do the right thing?
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#12 WAIW
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Destructoid = source fail.

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Please explain. I don't remember them lying or misinforming people. This DToid hate makes no sense to me.
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#13 aaronmullan
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Oh, god. I'm definitely not trusting any early reviews.
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#14 skinny_man_69
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To be honest, this doesn't really change the fact that the game is still probably going to be good. Batman: AA this very year had the same thing. No early reviews unless they were positive and we all know how that game turned out. Not like I generally trust reviewers to begin with :P

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#15 Revolution316
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[QUOTE="awssk8er716"]

Like I said in the other thread, another reason why I don't trust reviews.

Animal-Mother

I don't know. I'd have to say Gamespot is pretty credible. I trust them when it comes to reviews

GS gave AC a 9:|...a 9. thats credible?

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#16 WAIW
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="awssk8er716"]

Like I said in the other thread, another reason why I don't trust reviews.

Revolution316

I don't know. I'd have to say Gamespot is pretty credible. I trust them when it comes to reviews

GS gave AC a 9:|...a 9. thats credible?

Look, we could all point to some review at ANY source and laugh at it. That doesn't discredit the source in any way, it just establishes you happen to have a different opinion about a single game.
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#17 hip-hop-cola2
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="awssk8er716"]

Like I said in the other thread, another reason why I don't trust reviews.

Revolution316

I don't know. I'd have to say Gamespot is pretty credible. I trust them when it comes to reviews

GS gave AC a 9:|...a 9. thats credible?

I think it deserved it.

Who are you to say im wrong.

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#18 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="awssk8er716"]

Like I said in the other thread, another reason why I don't trust reviews.

Revolution316

I don't know. I'd have to say Gamespot is pretty credible. I trust them when it comes to reviews

GS gave AC a 9:|...a 9. thats credible?

Your point? In all honestly the game gets hated on too much. But I think it had a great narrative and an interesting take on things.
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#19 DeadMagazines
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="awssk8er716"]

Like I said in the other thread, another reason why I don't trust reviews.

Revolution316

I don't know. I'd have to say Gamespot is pretty credible. I trust them when it comes to reviews

GS gave AC a 9:|...a 9. thats credible?

AC was a great game. Interesting story/setting, great combat, excellent graphics, fantastic free roam/climbing..the only parts that were bad were mission types, but even then, half of them were *optional* after the 1st kill. AC gets alot of hate for something that nearly every other game does. It was an awesome game, and cliffhangers in games are no worse than cliffhangers in movies/tv.
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#20 PSdual_wielder
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Thats actually a really bad thing to do on Ubi's part, not because of any wrong morals values or anything, but its just potentially really harmful to them. Knowing the most popular sources these days, its not gonna do any of them pain to review one less game in a November(busiest time of the year for them), and if the game doesn't get reviewed AT ALL it could mean a lot less sales.

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#21 EvanTheGamer
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*topic pic*

Jus sayin.

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#22 ActicEdge
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Well, all I can say is wouldn't be the first time. They're tryong to protect there investment. I can understand, its still shameful though.

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#23 EvanTheGamer
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Makes you wonder if they try this on much bigger sources, they probably accept the deal though.

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#24 XileLord
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Funny thing about it is Ubisoft is not the only one who does this in fact many other companies do so you can't exactly hate them for it and it's my main reason i don't listen to reviews from the top magazines and gaming sites. If you want a credible review and a honest opinion you're better off to go to youtube and check what people have to say about the game or some not so popular site that reviews games.

Kane and lynch anybody? Most users should know about the huge shibang which happend at gamespot over that.

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#25 smartcriminal
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The first one was so repetitive. I stopped playing after i got to damascus. AC1 and GTAIV were this generations most overrated

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#26 killab2oo5
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Well, Codemasters also didn't want anyone to put up a review for Operation Flashpoint 2 that was lower than 7.0, and if the review lower than that then they were ordered to hold it. >:[ Lets bash them too.
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#27 mgs_freak91
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[QUOTE="skektek"]

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] I don't know. I'd have to say Gamespot is pretty credible. I trust them when it comes to reviewsAnimal-Mother

You must have missed the whole Gerstmanngate thing.

No I was here for it. But didn't he do the right thing?

Yea, someone want to enlighten me on it again? I have actually forgotten. =P Though, I think he did the right thing, but he wasn't meant to do the right thing. That would have a blow on Gamespot's credibility. I mean, you wouldn't go and buy a game from a place which TRIED to sell their other games at $200 each, you would at least think they can't be trusted, right? Checking up with other prices from other stores, etc.
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#28 mgs_freak91
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I don't get what is so bad with what Ubisoft wants. Put yourself in their shoes. You wouldn't want someone else telling the WHOLE WORLD that your product sucks, especially when that person has an OPINION. Reviews matter to a lot of people. It's the same as saying that your favourite game was Lair, but no one even gave it a shot because of some reviews, ie. opinions. Ah well. It doesn't really bother me. Assassins Creed 2 will be a great game, IF they improved from the first. The only thing I found bad about the first was it got boring quickly because it was repetitive. It seems like they have added more to do, so that's enough for me to buy it.

EDIT: I didn't read what ever links were given by TC/posters. But if Ubisoft is actually "Demand"[ing] it then that would be bad. Only because "Demand" is quite a negative term, depending on context. Then again, the media spins everything. I wouldn't be surprised if Ubisoftmerely asked, stated or commented on something about it and the media just changed it to "demand".

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#29 Marka1700
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Wow, people actually use Destuctiod as a "reliable" source.
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#30 Santesyu
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Jus sayin.

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[QUOTE="skektek"]

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] I don't know. I'd have to say Gamespot is pretty credible. I trust them when it comes to reviewsAnimal-Mother

You must have missed the whole Gerstmanngate thing.

No I was here for it. But didn't he do the right thing?

He did. and he got fired for it. so what does that say? if i had any scruples i would have left GS, but its the only board i like :?

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#33 mythrol
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[QUOTE="awssk8er716"]

Like I said in the other thread, another reason why I don't trust reviews.

Animal-Mother
I don't know. I'd have to say Gamespot is pretty credible. I trust them when it comes to reviews

Lol. that's a joke. Ever since Jeff, I only use the forums. Gamespot will never gain back the creditability they lost then. For reviews, I use giantbomb + gamerankings.
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#34 ArisShadows
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[QUOTE="Revolution316"]

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="awssk8er716"]

Like I said in the other thread, another reason why I don't trust reviews.

I don't know. I'd have to say Gamespot is pretty credible. I trust them when it comes to reviews

GS gave AC a 9:|...a 9. thats credible?

I would have gave it the same score, personally.
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#35 deactivated-5b69bebd1b0b6
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This my friends. Is doubt. Doubt that their game will be any good. I wouldn't be surprised if ubisoft bribed gamespot with AC's 9.0 score or even just paid them.


AC1 was a 7.0 at best. Such a highly repetative game doesn't deserve a 9.0. It looks like AC2 is not going to improve upon AC1 in any way. Ubisoft an their doubts just prove this.

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#36 subrosian
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[QUOTE="metalisticpain"] I don't know. I'd have to say Gamespot is pretty credible. I trust them when it comes to reviews

I don't know how you came to your conclusions, considering Gamespot is the only site I know that fired people who would not bow to corporate pressure and give an artificially inflated score to kane and lynch

C|NET, not GameSpot. People need to realize the distinction here. I'm the guy who BROKE THE GERSTMANN STORY to the major press. Jeff wasn't called into the office by his fellow Gamespotters and given the boot, he was canned by an exec who no longer works for C|NET. The Kayne & Lynch thing was part of some larger evil, which at the end of the day is beyond the scope of this thread. - What CBS Interactive does is one thing, and what GameSpot editors do is another. When we start calling bull**** on people's integrity, we need to make it clear. There are some big, evil companies out there who are concerned about the dollars and cents of it. That doesn't always mean the reviewers are getting paid for a score. There ARE corrupt reviewers out there - IGN is home to quite a few of them - there are also young reviewers who accept gifts from publishers like swag, games, signed artwork, etc... without realizing those are "bribes" intended to positively influence their take on whatever game is being promoted - but that doesn't mean every review, every site, every comment, is some grand conspiracy.
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#37 subrosian
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[QUOTE="Crossel777"] Lol. that's a joke. Ever since Jeff, I only use the forums. Gamespot will never gain back the creditability they lost then. For reviews, I use giantbomb + gamerankings.

If you're concerned about corruption, I'm amazed you'd even *go to Gamerankings*, let alone treat it as a credible source.
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#38 Epak_
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Ooooh yeah they're full of ****. How 'bout making a good game, huh?

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#39 SparkyProtocol
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Even though their lack of faith for AC2 is disturbing ( ;) ) it will still be a fantastic game.
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#40 Stumpt25
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Jus sayin.

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#41 FunkyHeadHunter
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I wonder if people here and on other gamer websites realize that only about 2% of the worlds gaming population is on forums and cares about scores that someone else gives a game?

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#42 Epak_
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I wonder if people here and on other gamer websites realize that only about 2% of the worlds gaming population is on forums and cares about scores that someone else gives a game?

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Casuals rule the gaming market. I think everyone realizes that. I would laugh if AC2 got zero reviews but they have the means to buy out people so...

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#43 haziqonfire
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Ubisoft isn't the first company to do it. I doubt they'll be the last. The game already looked great regardless of what reviews it gets. Also generally with the internet now people get enough information about a game that you don't really need a review to tell you whether or not you'd like it and its worth checking out.
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#44 Racer850
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="awssk8er716"]

Like I said in the other thread, another reason why I don't trust reviews.

Revolution316

I don't know. I'd have to say Gamespot is pretty credible. I trust them when it comes to reviews

GS gave AC a 9:|...a 9. thats credible?

I disagree with that review, but thats the reality of the opinion :)
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#45 jin3438
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I don't care if Ubisoft isn't the only publisher/dev to demand high scores from reviewers the practice is disgusting. If you want to protect your investment make your game worth the 90 or an A. I also don't trust gamespot reviews after the whole Kane and Lynch episode for reviews I go to Ign, Giantbomb, and even 1up. I didnt even like the first Assassin's Creed but if I did this thing wouldnt cause me to boycott. I'm still thinking about getting this one as it might be better.

This is just another thing plaguing the gaming industry for everone along with SOME DLC practices, gamers hating on every big name game without reasonable arguements...

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#46 lusitanogamer
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Now i see why the first game got so many great reviews...
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#47 chrion133
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[QUOTE="awssk8er716"]

Like I said in the other thread, another reason why I don't trust reviews.

Animal-Mother

I don't know. I'd have to say Gamespot is pretty credible. I trust them when it comes to reviews

no man, its been alot different since the kane and lynch debacle, they were outright busted, and everyone credible left. You think they would have let any of these new guys come in if they werent gonna do what the man says?

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#48 KukicAdo
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Game journalism and integrity should be 2..3 words never placed within 2,000 letters of each other. All the gaming media is susceptible to bribes, and gladly take them, sometimes its the corrupt editor, others its the big wig telling the little guy to bend over. Reviews, all reviews, weather from the biggest gaming site, or the small indie blog, should be taken with a grain of salt.
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#49 V4SKUNK
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Jus sayin.

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#50 Videodogg
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I dont care how high a review this game gets, fake or not. I hated the first game, i am not buying this one.