ULTIMATE CONSOLE WARS: Xbox 360 vs PS3 vs Wii, The Thread To End The War!!!

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#51 Ravensmash
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[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"]I won't, since the games can't be played on any other cureent gen CONSOLE (not SYSTEM), they are exclusives.lundy86_4

They're really not.

I dunno what to tell you. Omitting a system doesn't make the game exclusive in System Wars, as the PC is a part of this "war".

You saying it's exclusive doesn't make it so -- unfortunately for you.

So it's of no benefit to the 360's library when we discuss games on each platform (as in this thread?). Wow - ME2 no longer exists!
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[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"]I won't, since the games can't be played on any other cureent gen CONSOLE (not SYSTEM), they are exclusives.lundy86_4

They're really not.

I dunno what to tell you. Omitting a system doesn't make the game exclusive in System Wars, as the PC is a part of this "war".

You saying it's exclusive doesn't make it so -- unfortunately for you.

The title of the topic is CONSOLE wars, not SYSTEM wars.
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"]I won't, since the games can't be played on any other cureent gen CONSOLE (not SYSTEM), they are exclusives.Ravensmash

They're really not.

I dunno what to tell you. Omitting a system doesn't make the game exclusive in System Wars, as the PC is a part of this "war".

You saying it's exclusive doesn't make it so -- unfortunately for you.

So it's of no benefit to the 360's library when we discuss games on each platform (as in this thread?). Wow - ME2 no longer exists!

So only exclusives exist? Multiplats exist dude, just don't call them exclusives...
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#55 Ravensmash
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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

They're really not.

I dunno what to tell you. Omitting a system doesn't make the game exclusive in System Wars, as the PC is a part of this "war".

You saying it's exclusive doesn't make it so -- unfortunately for you.

TehNubTuber

So it's of no benefit to the 360's library when we discuss games on each platform (as in this thread?). Wow - ME2 no longer exists!

So only exclusives exist? Multiplats exist dude, just don't call them exclusives...

Then it's fair to say they benefit the 360's library in discussions like this though? E.g. 360s library has an advantage of the PS3's because of this.

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#56 deactivated-66e3137ab3ad5
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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]Look up at the thread title . Console wars indeed.Slashkice

Only discussing consoles doesn't negate the existence of the PC - this is System Wars and the PC is a system. Regardless of the context, games like Mass Effect and Left 4 Dead are not exclusive. They're multiplats and should be discussed as such.

We're just discussing the consoles... no one said anybody's negating the PC. But, can ME, L4D and Gears be played on the PS3 and the Wii? No. Which means they're an advantage in the 360's favour.
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#57 TehNubTuber
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[QUOTE="TehNubTuber"][QUOTE="Ravensmash"] So it's of no benefit to the 360's library when we discuss games on each platform (as in this thread?). Wow - ME2 no longer exists! Ravensmash

So only exclusives exist? Multiplats exist dude, just don't call them exclusives...

Then it's fair to say they benefit the 360's library in discussions like this though? E.g. 360s library has an advantage of the PS3's because of this.

Yes, but they're still multiplats available on other platforms, you don't need a 360 to play them, they aren't as strong of a reason to buy a 360 as exclusives like Halo. Specially when the other system they're on is the single greatest platform to ever grace this planet.
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#58 lundy86_4
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So it's of no benefit to the 360's library when we discuss games on each platform (as in this thread?). Wow - ME2 no longer exists! Ravensmash

Nobody said that. Try not to read between the lines when you so obviously misunderstand. Also, don't put words in my mouth.

They are benefits to the system, certainly. They're still multiplats though.

The title of the topic is CONSOLE wars, not SYSTEM wars.khoofia_pika

Where is that topic placed? On which board?

Humour me.

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#60 Ravensmash
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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]Look up at the thread title . Console wars indeed.Slashkice

Only discussing consoles doesn't negate the existence of the PC - this is System Wars and the PC is a system. Regardless of the context, games like Mass Effect and Left 4 Dead are not exclusive. They're multiplats and should be discussed as such.

True. But why can't it be accepted that these games provide an advantage for the 360 over the PS3 in cases like this? It's not like every individual PS3 comes with a game ready PC glued on.
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[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"]We're just discussing the consoles... no one said anybody's negating the PC. But, can ME, L4D and Gears be played on the PS3 and the Wii? No. Which means they're an advantage in the 360's favour.Slashkice

If you want to think that, fine. They're still not exclusive - ie only on Xbox 360.

I never said they're exclusive. I just said they just give the 360 an advantage over the PS3 and the Wii, since the can't be played on them.
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The sooner people learn that multiplats don't turn into an exclusive in any situation the better.
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[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"]The title of the topic is CONSOLE wars, not SYSTEM wars.lundy86_4

Where is that topic placed? On which board?

Humour me.

but what is it that is meant ot be discussed in this topic? Are we really arguing over this? :?

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[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"]I never said they're exclusive. I just said they just give the 360 an advantage over the PS3 and the Wii, since the can't be played on them.Slashkice

I won't, since the games can't be played on any other cureent gen CONSOLE (not SYSTEM), they are exclusives.khoofia_pika

It seems you did.

Okay, I did.... I fail.
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#66 lundy86_4
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but what is it that is meant ot be discussed in this topic? Are we really arguing over this? :?

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Topics don't override the generally understood rules of a board.

They're definately advantages, just not labelled as exclusives. It's been debated to death, and even mods like CaseyWegner state that they are not exclusives.

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#67 deactivated-66e3137ab3ad5
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[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"]

but what is it that is meant ot be discussed in this topic? Are we really arguing over this? :?

lundy86_4

Topics don't override the generally understood rules of a board.

They're definately advantages, just not labelled as exclusives. It's been debated to death, and even mods like CaseyWegner state that they are not exclusives.

Hey, I said I fail. :evil:
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why is it every day there is at least 6 at min of these so called "ULTIMATE" console debates. 9 out of 10 times its just a ps3 vs 360 with either the wii or pc to add into the mix. also another problem is with this 360/pc exclusive crap, if a game can be played on both its not exclusive period. while you can make some argument to the ps3/psp and wii/ds seeing as both are properties to Sony and Nintendo, the same can not be said for 360/pc. 360 = Microsoft pc = open system i,e no one has offical rights to the system.

how many times does this need to be said before it finally sinks in, this is system wars not console wars. perhaps they should make a forum just so 360 and ps3 fanboys can have their own little spot and see who has the bigger e-peen.

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Hey, I said I fail. :evil:khoofia_pika

:P

That was pretty funny. My bad :oops:

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why is it every day there is at least 6 at min of these so called "ULTIMATE" console debates. 9 out of 10 times its just a ps3 vs 360 with either the wii or pc to add into the mix. also another problem is with this 360/pc exclusive crap, if a game can be played on both its not exclusive period. while you can make some argument to the ps3/psp and wii/ds seeing as both are properties to Sony and Nintendo, the same can not be said for 360/pc. 360 = Microsoft pc = open system i,e no one has offical rights to the system.

how many times does this need to be said before it finally sinks in, this is system wars not console wars. perhaps they should make a forum just so 360 and ps3 fanboys can have their own little spot and see who has the bigger e-peen.

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[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"]

Hey, I said I fail. :evil:lundy86_4

:P

That was pretty funny. My bad :oops:

Nah it's okay, I'm a fail of a homo sapien anyway. :P
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[QUOTE="1kryptic"]

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

PS3, followed by the Wii. Xbox is a distant third as it is hard to inlude a box with faulty hardware.

PS3 and Wii have the best games of this generation.

PS3 is the only console this generation with next gen graphics.

PS3 plays Blu Rays.

Wii has Mario and Zelda.

Xbox doesn't really work. I cannot believe people are so willing to fork out money for a product with major design flaws.

Ravensmash

Wow, if the Xbox360 is that bad, you would think it would be dead last in sales...Oh wait...And the failure rate is so low now, so there's not much of a point in bashing a console of something they fixed.

My 360 is fine : \ I can leave it on pretty much all day if I so wished. In regards to the points Heirren made.... 1) a faulty hardware issue doesn't detract from the quality of the software. That's like saying PC gaming sucks because mine can barely run anything.... 2) That is opinion, and seeing as 'best games' are subjective. If you were referring to AAAA's, then 360 has a 10 also. 3) This is just flat out incorrect. Especially when upcoming multiplats rival PS3 exclusives easily, and Gears 3 looks on par also. 4) Finally, a statement and not opinion! 5) Correct. But then 360 has Halo and Gears, etc etc. etc. - irrelevant point to make when all have big franchises. 6) Referred to that earlier, but if it was so broken - it shouldn't be selling more than PS3. Unless of course consumers prefer broken hardware to Sony's offering? :P (I joke PS3 owners, but you get my point). next time try to use a bit more logic?

I am using logic. First I should state that the OP is somewhat silly--can't include 360 Arcade titles? Geometry wars is actually one of my favorite games this gen. Allow me to make some more logical points.

-Blu Ray means the Playstation will sustain the entirety of this generation. With more impending price drops, the value just continues to go up for the ps3, and down for the 360 because buying a separate box to play blu rays would be necessary.

-I just bought a ps3 about 6 months ago. I will honestly tell you I did not care for the PS2. I felt it was filled with mediocre games. I bought a 360 in 2006. I'm far from a Sony fanboy. However, when you spend $400 on a machine that has major design flaws, it makes the console less attractive. I'm aware most multiplatform games are visually better on the 360(though ps3 audio is miles ahead), but I find it hard to support a platform not knowing if it is going to work, from month to month. I didn't have this mentality until my console Red Ringed, but I still feel it is warranted to factor its reliability into the mix.

-Kinect is just STUPID. Yes, I said stupid, because it is. For the xbox fans that supported the original machine over the ps2, it is almost a slap in the face to xbox gamers to, 2/3 through the generation, alienate the core audience for the most part.

-Xbox Live has become an overblown social networking site. Make it about the games please. All that other junk gets in the way. Instead of adding facebook/myspace/and all that bs, how about innovating the Xbox Live system with gaming in mind. I much prefered the orginal xbox Live setup.

-PS3 IS the only console with the next gen audio/visual experience. There's more to the experience than a couple lines of resolution and a couple different shaders. The PS3 offers top of the line video AND audio. The xbox audio setup is compressed to $hi*. Using a 360 for years, and then eventually buying a ps3, the audio is like going from a 96kb/s mp3, to a nicely mastered vinyl.

-All the ps3 exclusives like Mass Effect are better on the PC.

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#73 oldkingallant
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This thread is biased in favor of the Wii. I love the Wii as it's tied for my favorite console with the PS3, but by only taking the top 10 or so games from each library you completely disregard quantity. Quality may be more important and it's what keeps Nintendo in the game, but quantity matters too. Make it a top 30 or so and we'd have a more accurate comparison.

Even so I don't know what you hope to achieve with this, Lemmings will vote 360, Sheep will vote Wii, Cows will vote PS3, and Hermits will complain about how there's no PC.

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#74 lundy86_4
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Nah it's okay, I'm a fail of a homo sapien anyway. :Pkhoofia_pika

:lol:

At the end of the day, aren't we all... Aren't we all.

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#75 deactivated-66e3137ab3ad5
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This thread is biased in favor of the Wii.oldkingallant

Never thought I would read that on System Wars.

And the TP's not included Twilight Princess, he's included titles like Zack and Wiki and Little King's Story (come on, look at them... LOOK AT THEM!), and you say it's biased in favour of he Wii? Okay.... I see where you're coming from.

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[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"]Nah it's okay, I'm a fail of a homo sapien anyway. :Plundy86_4

:lol:

At the end of the day, aren't we all... Aren't we all.

I know I am. I create topics like these: http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27387210&tag=topics%3Btitle
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#77 Mitazaki
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[QUOTE="Mitazaki"]

why is it every day there is at least 6 at min of these so called "ULTIMATE" console debates. 9 out of 10 times its just a ps3 vs 360 with either the wii or pc to add into the mix. also another problem is with this 360/pc exclusive crap, if a game can be played on both its not exclusive period. while you can make some argument to the ps3/psp and wii/ds seeing as both are properties to Sony and Nintendo, the same can not be said for 360/pc. 360 = Microsoft pc = open system i,e no one has offical rights to the system.

how many times does this need to be said before it finally sinks in, this is system wars not console wars. perhaps they should make a forum just so 360 and ps3 fanboys can have their own little spot and see who has the bigger e-peen.

khoofia_pika

Most of them are made by the same person.

sad but true, while they believe 360 and pc are not in competition with each other like it is with the rest of the system then why is it that Mircosoft gets no royalities from say the pc version of Mass Effect 2 but it does with the 360 version. Which version do you think Microsoft would prefer you buy?

facts are the 360 is in as much competition with pc as it is with ps3 and wii, each company are trying to make a profit but sadly these facts get ignored by the blind fanboys and we get flooded by endless day to day ps3 vs 360 threads.

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#78 deactivated-66e3137ab3ad5
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No, this charizard guy is a wii fanboy.
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#79 _SWAG_
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playstation3 is number 1

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When it comes to exclusives; I guess Wii. Wii has more exclusives rating (AAE) above. But personally, i like PS3 exclusives because it has more mature titles
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playstation3 is number 1

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#82 Arach666
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No, this charizard guy is a wii fanboy.khoofia_pika
He is a sheep,but a very reasonable one at all times,wich was why I was so surprised with his explanation for leaving the PC out in this thread.
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[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"]No, this charizard guy is a wii fanboy.Arach666
He is a sheep,but a very reasonable one at all times,wich was why I was so surprised with his explanation for leaving the PC out in this thread.

people at system wars can be reasonable? I don't want to turn into a fierce faboy, so i just make fun of myself.
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[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"]No, this charizard guy is a wii fanboy.Arach666
He is a sheep,but a very reasonable one at all times,wich was why I was so surprised with his explanation for leaving the PC out in this thread.

I just wanted a Console Wars thread... I'm sorry :( Anyway, I've got something planned for the PC as well. Tomorrow, since I can't make a poll today. And just what the hell is khoofia doing?
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#85 Cloud567kar
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So why arent downloadable games on this list? There are some games that are better than the top 10 you listed.

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#87 bALTHar86
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This was a hard choice! I own 360 and PS3 and my brothers got Wii (not a fan).

I think PS3 is the best machine but based on the games listed I had to go for 360.

My decision was swung by the Mass Effect and Fable games because they're my fave game series of recent years.

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And just what the hell is khoofia doing?charizard1605
I'm saving the world from boredom. And the norms. Oh, and doomsday.
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#89 Arach666
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[QUOTE="Arach666"][QUOTE="khoofia_pika"]No, this charizard guy is a wii fanboy.charizard1605
He is a sheep,but a very reasonable one at all times,wich was why I was so surprised with his explanation for leaving the PC out in this thread.

I just wanted a Console Wars thread... I'm sorry :( Anyway, I've got something planned for the PC as well. Tomorrow, since I can't make a poll today. And just what the hell is khoofia doing?

Don´t worry about that,there´s nothing to be sorry about;)

I know you wanted,it´s just like in the last few days,every vs thread always tries to exclude the PC for some reason(I believe at least four threads)and that is quite anoying after awhile.

Oh,what do you mean what´s he doing?

Edit:Oh,I see what you mean now...

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#90 Silverbond
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The title of the topic is CONSOLE wars, not SYSTEM wars.khoofia_pika

Except for the fact TC calls them exclusive. :|

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[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"]The title of the topic is CONSOLE wars, not SYSTEM wars.Silverbond

Except for the fact TC calls them exclusive. :|

Obviously he's wrong... like you.
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This was a hard choice! I own 360 and PS3 and my brothers got Wii (not a fan).

I think PS3 is the best machine but based on the games listed I had to go for 360.

My decision was swung by the Mass Effect and Fable games because they're my fave game series of recent years.

bALTHar86

Same deal for me, i like Demon Soul on PS3 a lot though, would put it up there with Fable and Mass Effect, even without huge cities filled with NPCs etc

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#93 Silverbond
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"]The title of the topic is CONSOLE wars, not SYSTEM wars.khoofia_pika

Except for the fact TC calls them exclusive. :|

Obviously he's wrong... like you.

That doesn't make sense.

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[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"][QUOTE="Silverbond"]

Except for the fact TC calls them exclusive. :|

Silverbond

Obviously he's wrong... like you.

That doesn't make sense.

Wrong again... as always.
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[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"][QUOTE="Silverbond"]

That doesn't make sense.

Silverbond

Wrong again... as always.

Uh-huh.

*squint* I've read your threads.
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I want a reply, Mr. Wrong.
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Since WRPGs are my thing, the 360 list is the best by a landslide, with Mass Effect 1-2 and Fable 2

PS3 comes 2ond with Demon SOul that i liked also very much

And Wii has Zelda, but is not as important to me as the above

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Thank god you wrote 'to me'.
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"] Obviously he's wrong... like you.khoofia_pika

That doesn't make sense.

Wrong again... as always.

Khoofia cracks me up - he's like the Simon Cowell of stupid contributions.

I don't get why the thread is getting a hard time. The rules were stated at the start and they all made sense.

Because P.C. is not a console and not included Mass Effect and L4D can be considered in 360's favour because out of the three choices available they are only playable on one. Besides neither game can be played on a Mac so technically its all 'microsoft exclusive' anyway.