[QUOTE="blahzor"]That wasnt the only major problem, searching wasn't too great... plus i'm actually still having some lag problems, and problems finding ranked matches.
glitches always seem to exist in MP games, gears had em.. ya they suck, but i haven't had any major problems with them yet to be honest. While the lag issue with TF2 is not excusable.
Even then, more glitches doesn't determine the worse multiplayer.. especially since halo has FAR more substance then TF2. i'm just saying that at launch(and for some now) TF2 is frustratingly hard to actually play.
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Ohhhh boy, I was going to reply to your other post but this did it for me.In terms of gameplay Halo offerns knowhere as much depth and substance in gameplay in comparison to TF2.
Halo 3 is very good because it offers so much, and is quite solid. However this is part of one of its major problems. It doesent execute anything perfectly or very well, simply because it covers such a broad range. Its gameplay and game types are all far from perfect in execution and gameplay. Its a bit of a mix mash. It caters to everything, but as a result doesent execute that well. Thus the total package is very good, but each specific mode and gameplay is just good.
In comparison to TF2 which pulls off multiplayer class based teamplay almost perfectly. There is amazing balance, and huge depth in gameplay (mainly due to the classes). For what it is it is pretty much perfect - though unlike Halo 3 it focuses specifically on the single gameplay formula and few game modes.
Another great example is the king of multiplayer games, counter strike. It focuses on a very specific type of gameplay and structure, and few game modes, and is executed almost perfectly for what it is, as a team based shooter.
Look at Battlefield - its only game mode is variations of its original conquest mod.
This is what sets Halo 3 apart from those other multiplayer FPSs.
To quote someone else on these forums 'It is the do-er of everything and the master of none'.
But that doesent mean it doesent offer great mp - which it does (worth nothing I see halo 3s MP as its most noteworthy feature).
I didn't say TF2 was completely shallow; but perhaps you misunderstood me. I meant Halo 3 had alot more to offer; ie maps, game modes, forge, online coop(that is multiplayer, right?).. yes clas and team based gameplay can be deep; but halo also has team modes and the variety of weapons, plus the vantage points, add depth as well.. it's not without its own depth. Also; i'm not sure i'm in complete agreeance that each of halo's individual features are only "good"; perhaps individually they are not as good as TF2, but they're at least "great".. whatever "good" and "great" mean.
Again; i agree TF2 is fun, but i honestly don't think it has anything on Halo's MP overall(in terms of quality). There's just so much halo offers, and it does it all so well(perhaps not perfectly, true.. but as you said; it is still great). Plus, isn't halo's matchmaking process really good?(teaming up after games, blah blah.. i dunno; i don't have much experience with that)
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