Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 both have superior animation and artstyle than Crysis

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#51 explasiv
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looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

What a Funny Thread loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

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#52 Fizzman
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lmao i love it when cows actually think that PS3 games can actually be compared with Crysis. The animation when i pick up a NKA soldier, and throw him into a tree, and it snaps in half is superior to Uncharted 2, and KZ2. Artstyle thats purely an opinion, and one cannot be better then the other. Crysis strives for realism, so does KZ2, but Graphically Crysis is 10000x more realistic then KZ2. Uncharted is just a bunch of pretty colors.

PS when a cow says X aspectis techincally better then Crysis that immediately invalidates their arguement. Cause technically Crysis is the most advanced game ever made so riddle me that.

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#53 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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Check the Gamespot 2008 awards, MGS4 got technical graphics over Crysis :|HAZE-Unit
Because that means much :lol:
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#54 JangoWuzHere
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... superior particle effects .... ???

Credibility destroyed.

Nokanhav

Yes.

Sorry but their is no game to rival Crysis in particle effects. The game is in a league of its own with that. Infact the final level is what really makes your eyes pop out from all the pretty particles appearing everywhere.

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#55 RK-Mara
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It is true that Crysis doesn't have the most amazing artstyle out there.
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#56 AnnoyedDragon
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The insecurity of console users in regard to Crysis really is incredible.

Here's a game that scored well in both graphics and game play; so when countless discussions fail to challenge those aspects of it they turn to subjective criticism.

Why can't people accept that PC gamers have a good game built around post console technology? It is the nature of the platform, static hardware is eventually surpassed by ever improving hardware; even if static hardware is easier to optimize for. It has always been this way and yet console users (PS3 users especially) seem incapable of accepting that regarding Crysis.

When is this going to stop? Two years from now when X PC game utilizing that times hardware comes out; are console users still going to be comparing it with their titles and using subjective reasoning to argue theirs is better?

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#57 Irick_cb
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[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]Check the Gamespot 2008 awards, MGS4 got technical graphics over Crysis :|IronBass
Because that means much :lol:

Seriously, this is just so much of a joke. The only thing _any_ console game could hold over Crysis is animation.

Nothing.

Else.

The Edge tools do have a damn good animation engine though.

I haven't messed with Crysis much (didn't intrest me) so i will not pass judgement

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#58 Mainframe52
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Uncharted and KZ2 have superior human animations than Crysis. Artstyle is completely subjective, but I prefer, in order,

1. Uncharted

2. Crysis

and, finally,

3. Killzone 2 (great animation and lighting effects but one of the most boring color palettes I've ever seen)

Also, since it seems like people are using this thread to compare all aspects of the game, i'll throw in my two cents as well.

Crysis running at max has better technical graphics than any console game... by far. The gameplay and storyline, however, were a bit dull for my taste.

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#59 skrat_01
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No they dont. And art style is subjective.
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#60 HAZE-Unit
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[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]Check the Gamespot 2008 awards, MGS4 got technical graphics over Crysis :|IronBass
Because that means much :lol:

Come on, it's MGS4, it should win everything because it got a 10, tell me how in the world a 10 loses from a 9.0 game in graphics?

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#61 bladeeagle
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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]Check the Gamespot 2008 awards, MGS4 got technical graphics over Crysis :|HAZE-Unit

Because that means much :lol:

Come on, it's MGS4, it should win everything because it got a 10, tell me how in the world a 10 loses from a 9.0 game in graphics?

First off, you're comparing a PC game to a console game. A PS3 in fact with no AAAes for the first 2 years was it? PC games are rated with higher standards.

Second, you're comparing a stealth TPS (mostly TPS but you can go to FPS) to a FPS.

And just because it got a 10 doesn't mean it's perfect.

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#62 Wasdie  Moderator
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I think that Crysis has a great art style. It is realistic, but then the alien ships all are beauitfully modeled.

When going for dead realism with graphcis, you don't have much choices with the artstyle. An engine like that can be used for many differen things, but they wanted to show off its capabilities with a very realistic look. I think they pulled it off greatly.

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#63 fiscope
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Crysis has an excellent art style, especially when you get to the alien spaceraft. Realism is an art direction, folks, and Crysis looks better both artistically and technically than both of those games as of now.

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#64 HAZE-Unit
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[QUOTE="bladeeagle"]

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

Because that means much :lol:IronBass

Come on, it's MGS4, it should win everything because it got a 10, tell me how in the world a 10 loses from a 9.0 game in graphics?

First off, you're comparing a PC game to a console game. A PS3 in fact with no AAAes for the first 2 years was it? PC games are rated with higher standards.

Second, you're comparing a stealth TPS (mostly TPS but you can go to FPS) to a FPS.

And just because it got a 10 doesn't mean it's perfect.

But it means its better than Crysis ;)
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[QUOTE="bladeeagle"]

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

Come on, it's MGS4, it should win everything because it got a 10, tell me how in the world a 10 loses from a 9.0 game in graphics?

HAZE-Unit

First off, you're comparing a PC game to a console game. A PS3 in fact with no AAAes for the first 2 years was it? PC games are rated with higher standards.

Second, you're comparing a stealth TPS (mostly TPS but you can go to FPS) to a FPS.

And just because it got a 10 doesn't mean it's perfect.

But it means its better than Crysis ;)

Did you even read what I posted?

You're comparing the scores of a CONSOLE game to a PC game. They're going to be rated at different standards. If Crysis was released on PS3 or MGS4 on PC, you can bet anything the score will be different.

Again, you're also comparing a TPS to an FPS. How many FPSes are there on the PC? A lot. Do you think Crysis got that 9.5 easily? No.

How many TPSes are on the PS3 when MGS4 was released? I don't know an exact number but I'm gonna guess not a lot.

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#66 Nokanhav
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[QUOTE="bladeeagle"]

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

Come on, it's MGS4, it should win everything because it got a 10, tell me how in the world a 10 loses from a 9.0 game in graphics?

HAZE-Unit

First off, you're comparing a PC game to a console game. A PS3 in fact with no AAAes for the first 2 years was it? PC games are rated with higher standards.

Second, you're comparing a stealth TPS (mostly TPS but you can go to FPS) to a FPS.

And just because it got a 10 doesn't mean it's perfect.

But it means its better than Crysis ;)

... according to one person.

The oerall rankings for Crysis and Metal Gear Solid 4 is 1.5% apart. You can come up with any number of reasons that MGS4 got 1.5% higher (overly hyped, not many anime stealth games, people who like anime and prefer watching games insteaf o playing them) but the point is that if reviews are the God of opinions then the difference is about 1.5% which isn't nearly enough to portray an opinion as fact.

But the main reason is that console games are rated higher becasue it's a static platform so the limits are easier to pick out. Plus, MGS4 is only being compared to the other MGS and Splinter Cell (nor nothing if you only include the PS3) while Crysis is behind rated against all other FPS so, in essence, Crysis ithe higher score because it's on a tougher platform and has more competition.

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#67 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"][QUOTE="bladeeagle"]

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

Come on, it's MGS4, it should win everything because it got a 10, tell me how in the world a 10 loses from a 9.0 game in graphics?

First off, you're comparing a PC game to a console game. A PS3 in fact with no AAAes for the first 2 years was it? PC games are rated with higher standards.

Second, you're comparing a stealth TPS (mostly TPS but you can go to FPS) to a FPS.

And just because it got a 10 doesn't mean it's perfect.

But it means its better than Crysis ;)

Yes comparing such a title to a PC FPS compared to well over two decades of shooters. Yes so logical. Put a feather in your cap.
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#68 johnnyblazed88
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crysis looks and plays better then kz2

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#69 DonMarkito
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Lol that's like saying Susan Boyle and your mom > Beyonce
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#70 NYrockinlegend
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Art style can't be argued. This is subjective, and each game has its own style which allows it to look great. Hmm, from what I've seen, Crysis has worse movement and animations than KZ2 or Uncharted 2. However, Crysis has photorealistic graphics, and overall is a larger playing field. KZ2 and U2 are linear compared to the open environment of Crysis. The two also look better in motion. I know it sounds ridiculous for me to argue against the current unparalleled graphics king, but this thread made me realize a few things after watching a few gameplay vids of Crysis in action. But yes, Crysis graphics TECHNICALLY crush the rest. Its specs are so much higher than that of KZ2 or Uncharted 2. Such is the advantage of the gaming rig PC.
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#71 djsifer01
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Uncharted has a downright ugly artstyle.

Killzone has a few cool designs, but it's nothing compared to the nanosuit.

Menalque2
Uncharted 2 has some of the best and detailed art ive seen in a game.
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#72 BioShockOwnz
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Nope, Crysis blows both out of the water, especially Killzone 2.

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#73 mD-
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I bet you that 75% of the people who posted critisisms in this thread have not played all 3 games. I don't know why anyone would be so offended at someone for saying it has a better artstyle. Superior graphics =/= better artstyle.

I could saay that Okami has a better art style than of these games since it looks beautiful and it enhances the experience.

I also don't understand why people need to defend Crysis like their life depends on it and they always have to disregard everything possibly negative about the game. Sometimes I think that people are hurt deep inside and feel they have to justify their initial $1200 build in order to play this game. Though the game is the best looking game you'll find the AI in that game was not amazing, ok.

Also, why are you getting angry at what he said about the animations? It's not that big of a deal that he compares the animations of the games when Crysis doesn't completely blow them away...

The games are more close in this category than in graphics.

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#74 navstar29
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And uncharted 2 is a stale game with no new gameplay, or game concepts it much like killzone 2 simply does what is available elsewhere and doesn't do it on any remarkable level though its different from killzone 2 in one regard they don't sacrafice control and fluid gameplay for animation which killzone 2 does.

Killzone 2 as i've said is a stale and arcahic game presenting nothing new to the FPS genre and nothing it does is well done its half way done from the cover system which is forgetable *didn't even know it had one till about lvl 3 when i found i could cover and then decided that had no worthwhile application* the animation takes presidence over control and speed with the controls being so bad and still not being up to par after its what 3 control updates? much like i said with uncharted one you can make a great looking game if every thing else in your game is mediocre which uncharted 1 was level design was inane, AI was inane and fights were just plain silly from the simple fact the game used more explosive barrels then any other before it.
Killzone 2 was much the same way and its shoehorned force motion sensing use was a total deal breaker even if the rest of teh game was perfect.

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Woah a lemming hating on PS3 games, No Wayyy!?!

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#75 nervmeister
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Isn't the idea of "superior art style" completely subjective?
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#76 slvrraven9
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[QUOTE="leonalabasters"]

There I said it.

Before the Hermies come in here and post a billion and one screenshots of Crysis, let it be known that I think Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2, despite being not as good a Crysis technically, look better in motion due to having superior artstyle, animation, particle effects, and generally higher production values. In motion, I didn't find Crysis to be anything special due to it's stiff animations, bland character models,and generic artstyle.

I am not a Cow. Yet this is how I feel.

youre terrible. this is absolutely bogus, youre not going to convince ANYONE this is even remotely true. why/how could you even dumb up a statement like that out of thin air. you obviously havent seen crysis in motion. im a fan of uncharted and killzone myself and theres NO WAY im going to agree with you on this subject. did you type that up at gunpoint? u did didnt you?......you if i said something like that id probably b on my deathbed so i wouldnt be aware of how badly id be getting flamed. that was just laughable. how can you even live with yourself after saying something like that. man, ive played each game youve stated and CLEARLY Crysis is superior in every aspect aexcept story (wich is DOES suck at). but still youd have to be one desperate mofo to be reaching for a win of that magnitude.
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#77 deactivated-59d151f079814
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No.. First of all the animation ( have played Killzone 2, and we can't judge Uncharted 2 because it isn't out yet).. And Crysis's facial features and the like are far more distinct.. Furthermore the models in Crysis actually react to the terrain, meaning if they run up a hill they willl correctly balance them selves as if you were relaly running up there.. Artstyle is a matter of opinion.
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#78 t3hTwinky
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And what leads you to believe that Killzone and Uncharted have 'superior artstyles' compared to Crysis?

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#79 Hanass
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This is such a ridiculous fanboy rant. Time to end this abomination to SW.

/THREAD

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#80 Hanass
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Isn't the idea of "superior art style" completely subjective?nervmeister

Nunber of polygons in textures, anti-aliasing, anisotropic filtering, contrast ratio, resolution, physics, AI aren't. Oh wait, all of those are light years ahead of some random PS3 game...

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#81 Hanass
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The insecurity of console users in regard to Crysis really is incredible.

Here's a game that scored well in both graphics and game play; so when countless discussions fail to challenge those aspects of it they turn to subjective criticism.

Why can't people accept that PC gamers have a good game built around post console technology? It is the nature of the platform, static hardware is eventually surpassed by ever improving hardware; even if static hardware is easier to optimize for. It has always been this way and yet console users (PS3 users especially) seem incapable of accepting that regarding Crysis.

When is this going to stop? Two years from now when X PC game utilizing that times hardware comes out; are console users still going to be comparing it with their titles and using subjective reasoning to argue theirs is better?

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#82 Macutchi
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Isn't the idea of "superior art style" completely subjective?nervmeister

you would think so wouldnt you?

reading posts like the first in this topic i cant help but think life's too short to be arguing that one games "particle effects" are better than an others

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#83 Irick_cb
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[QUOTE="nervmeister"]Isn't the idea of "superior art style" completely subjective?Hanass

Nunber of polygons in textures, anti-aliasing, anisotropic filtering, contrast ratio, resolution, physics, AI aren't. Oh wait, all of those are light years ahead of some random PS3 game...

CONTRAST RATIO? YOU SIR ARE A GENIUS!

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#86 DragonfireXZ95
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Crysis is known for its graphics overall, and the ability to produce them with such huge levels. But KZ2, U2 and mgs4 kills it with their animations. Also KZ2's AI is light years ahead of crysis aswell as particle effects and better looking motion blur. I hate seeing someone shoot something in crysis to only see it clip out, or see someone walking to only see some non detailed particle raise up and clip out. But Crysis does win at just being photorealistic, but sometimes its characters in motion are a let down.

But overall a great game and experience.

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Lol @ the AI being better in Killzone 2. I didn't realize it was so hard to program AI that run out of cover while they're being shot at in such small linear environments.
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#87 TreyoftheDead
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[QUOTE="Hanass"]

This is such a ridiculous fanboy rant. Time to end this abomination to SW.

/THREAD

djsifer01

Thats not impressive at all. Look at the washed out textures on the buildings. The character models are average at best.

...not impressive at all? Really? :| Look at the textures in the second picture. Have you played the game on those settings? Or at all? My guess is no. Playing Crysis on high is more impressive than anything consoles have to offer from a graphical standpoint. The game is stunning.

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#88 killerbeejp
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Crysis looks great, but talking about Crysis is like talking about Unicorns. Nobody even plays that game...the only reason ppl even talk about it is because 360 fanboys need a way to discredit the Ps3's superior graphics on games like Uncharted 2 and Killzone2.
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#89 TreyoftheDead
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Crysis looks great, but talking about Crysis is like talking about Unicorns. Nobody even plays that game...the only reason ppl even talk about it is because 360 fanboys need a way to discredit the Ps3's superior graphics on games like Uncharted 2 and Killzone2. killerbeejp

No one plays it? :?

Uh, I'm currently playing it and Crysis Warhead. I hope you were being sarcastic...

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#90 Irick_cb
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Crysis looks great, but talking about Crysis is like talking about Unicorns. Nobody even plays that game...the only reason ppl even talk about it is because 360 fanboys need a way to discredit the Ps3's superior graphics on games like Uncharted 2 and Killzone2. killerbeejp

Take a lesson from past failures.

Do not fight a war from multiple fronts if it can be avoided.

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#91 zarshack
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[QUOTE="killerbeejp"]Crysis looks great, but talking about Crysis is like talking about Unicorns. Nobody even plays that game...the only reason ppl even talk about it is because 360 fanboys need a way to discredit the Ps3's superior graphics on games like Uncharted 2 and Killzone2. TreyoftheDead

No one plays it? :?

Uh, I'm currently playing it and Crysis Warhead. I hope you were being sarcastic...

look at my sig, it says im currently playing it aswell. TEH GAME IZ A MYTH??

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#92 BoloTheGreat
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[QUOTE="Shattered007"][QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

MGS4 technically better than Crysis, let alone KZ2 and U2.

HAZE-Unit

Boy, it's like cows are just saying the most random things and claiming "FACT" latley, Why? This isn't even a contest and yet some cows can actually convince themself it's the truth.

Check the Gamespot 2008 awards, MGS4 got technical graphics over Crysis :|

And GS gave R&C a 7.5, what's your point, think for your ****ing self. It's obvioius if you lay both games crysis has better animations and overall graphics.
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#93 Irick_cb
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[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

[QUOTE="Shattered007"] Boy, it's like cows are just saying the most random things and claiming "FACT" latley, Why? This isn't even a contest and yet some cows can actually convince themself it's the truth.BoloTheGreat

Check the Gamespot 2008 awards, MGS4 got technical graphics over Crysis :|

And GS gave R&C a 7.5, what's your point, think for your ****ing self. It's obvioius if you lay both games crysis has better animations and overall graphics.

I have to question animations.

The edge tools have one of the best animation engines i've ever seen.

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#94 imprezawrx500
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killzone 2 has terrible art. lots of concrete and smoke isn't a nice art.
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#95 Irick_cb
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killzone 2 has terrible art. lots of concrete and smoke isn't a nice art. imprezawrx500

The smoke is beautiful.

I am not joking.

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#96 zarshack
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killzone 2 has terrible art. lots of concrete and smoke isn't a nice art. imprezawrx500
while there isnt much colour in the game, the art is quite nice imo, and my god did you see the smoke!?!?!? its awesome smoke!

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#97 BoloTheGreat
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[QUOTE="imprezawrx500"]killzone 2 has terrible art. lots of concrete and smoke isn't a nice art. zarshack

while there isnt much colour in the game, the art is quite nice imo, and my god did you see the smoke!?!?!? its awesome smoke!

Crysis even has better smoke :P
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#98 Irick_cb
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[QUOTE="zarshack"]

[QUOTE="imprezawrx500"]killzone 2 has terrible art. lots of concrete and smoke isn't a nice art. BoloTheGreat

while there isnt much colour in the game, the art is quite nice imo, and my god did you see the smoke!?!?!? its awesome smoke!

Crysis even has better smoke :P

Crysis' Soft particles look worse than Killzone's Volumetric IMO.

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#99 GodofBigMacs
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bet you have never played through the entire campaign in crysis.

zarshack
You don't even have to to know that it has better graphics than basically, real life itself. lol
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#100 BoloTheGreat
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[QUOTE="BoloTheGreat"][QUOTE="zarshack"] while there isnt much colour in the game, the art is quite nice imo, and my god did you see the smoke!?!?!? its awesome smoke!

Irick_cb

Crysis even has better smoke :P

Soft particles look worse than Volumetric IMO.

Crysis has volumetric soft particles :|, it has FAR superiour FX to either game. Same story even with STALKER;CS, Volumetric smoke/ lighting.