Uncharted 2 vs. Zelda Ocarina of Time

When MGS4 released there were a bunch of polls like this. Except now its uncharted

Lightning fast!

I really hope the sticky goes back up so these stupid threads will all get locked.

I really hope the sticky goes back up so these stupid threads will all get locked.

Vaasman

Its funny how after all these years eveybody knows what OOT is no matter what faction your in right now. That will not happen after 10 years with UC2.

Lets see. The widely considered best game of all time (OoT) Vs the 5th best game of all time (U2).....

I have yet to beat U2 but 1st beats 5th.

Lets see. The widely considered best game of all time (OoT) Vs the 5th best game of all time (U2).....

I have yet to beat U2 but 1st beats 5th.

-Oath

Honestly this is Cows vs Everyone else pollwise, but I think Uncharted 2 has the potential to be a classic game, but it is too early for a poll like this. Did not vote.

[QUOTE="-Oath"]

Lets see. The widely considered best game of all time (OoT) Vs the 5th best game of all time (U2).....

I have yet to beat U2 but 1st beats 5th.

Manticore7

[QUOTE="Manticore7"][QUOTE="-Oath"]

Lets see. The widely considered best game of all time (OoT) Vs the 5th best game of all time (U2).....

I have yet to beat U2 but 1st beats 5th.

mitu123

did people actually vote for U2:O wow. zelda:oot got a 10 on GS. U2 got a 9.6. ANY QUESTIONS?=????

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

I really hope the sticky goes back up so these stupid threads will all get locked.

Manticore7

I'll make everyone happy :D

Zelda Ocarina of Time = classic

Uncharted 2 = modern classic

I like Uncharted 2 better. I mean its newer and its awesome. OOT is a good game but look at metacritic. It only got over 30 reviews and it got a high score. Then look at Uncharted 2 which has 67 reviews and it still managed to have a very high score.:D

I've played both games. Such a tough decision...I'm sure majority of the people that voted for UC2 are people who haven't played OoT.
I can't decide!

Its funny how after all these years eveybody knows what OOT is no matter what faction your in right now. That will not happen after 10 years with UC2.

vaderhater

Uncharted 2 hype is ridiculous.

On a side note I'm getting annoyed about how the top 10 is literally going to be orcarina of time and all current gen games. I'm sorry but especially Super Mario Galaxy, The Orange Box (its a friggin compilation)and especially GTA4 along with Uncharted 2are not the top games of all time. More proof that reviewers standards are dropping every gen and the media is not to be trusted.

Uncharted 2 hype is ridiculous.

ActicEdge

I could say the same about Ocarina of Time.

And the cows come marching in...

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Uncharted 2 hype is ridiculous.

On a side note I'm getting annoyed about how the top 10 is literally going to be orcarina of time and all current gen games. I'm sorry but especially Super Mario Galaxy, The Orange Box (its a friggin compilation)and especially GTA4 along with Uncharted 2are not the top games of all time. More proof that reviewers standards are dropping every gen and the media is not to be trusted.

Couth_

I have played all of them besides orange box and Uncharted 2 (has to wait until December. Well Technically I never diid finish OoT but I did play it). And yeah it is absoluetly proof. When I go back and read throught the reviews ofthe old games the scale is much more harsh. There is literally none of that now. The whole games are getting better argument does not work with me either because its fallacy that newer technology breeds better games. Technology is not the only facto games are based. Nostalgia is not what's blinding me, I'm perfectly able to see which games deserve their scores and praise and which don't.

I like Uncharted 2 better. I mean its newer and its awesome. OOT is a good game but look at metacritic. It only got over 30 reviews and it got a high score. Then look at Uncharted 2 which has 67 reviews and it still managed to have a very high score.:D

RadecSupreme

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Uncharted 2 hype is ridiculous.

randomwiiplayer

I could say the same about Ocarina of Time.

I wasn't at SW when Oot came out. Were you?

You have Manticore in your name, and you're making threads like this??

FAIL.

P.S- Ocarina of Time wins in every category apart from technical ones like Graphics and Sound. Even then the soundtrack is better.

The fact that OoT is winning in this poll gives me hopefor System Wars yet :)

The fact that OoT is winning in this poll gives me hopefor System Wars yet :)

skinny_man_69

Really, I actually find it pathetic that people base which game is better on their nostalgia rather than the actual quality and work put into making an extremely fun game with a great entertaining story and amazing mix of 3rd person shooter, puzzles, and platforming.:|

[QUOTE="randomwiiplayer"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Uncharted 2 hype is ridiculous.

ActicEdge

I could say the same about Ocarina of Time.

I wasn't at SW when Oot came out. Were you?

Well I figured you meant it is overrated because UC2 is already out. They are both overrated.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Couth_"] That's not proof at all. How many of those top 10 games have you actually played yourself? Games are technically much better than ever and they will always continue to get better. Nostalgia is failCouth_

I have played all of them besides orange box and Uncharted 2 (has to wait until December. Well Technically I never diid finish OoT but I did play it). And yeah it is absoluetly proof. When I go back and read throught the reviews ofthe old games the scale is much more harsh. There is literally none of that now. The whole games are getting better argument does not work with me either because its fallacy that newer technology breeds better games. Technology is not the only facto games are based. Nostalgia is not what's blinding me, I'm perfectly able to see which games deserve their scores and praise and which don't.

And yes, it's either Nostalgia or System Wars that's blinding you. Both of which are fail. Just because a game gets hyped to the moon on a message board, doesn't mean it's the greatest thing of all time. But if a game is getting high praise from the media and GAMERS a like, it's probably deserving.

Not at all. The first being I don't listen to reviews because they are not written with any sort of competancy or integrity by neutral people. The imaturity of the gaming media has taught me that they have nothing worth listening to. Disagree if you like but its not like its difficult to find examples of this piss poor attitude and journalism (or lack of) they display.

Also no, there is no reason for me to believe games are getting better than the best of old. None at all. Technology increasing and creativity is fine, it still doesn't make the games themselves better. It makes them better technical pieces but that really isn't all of a big selling point. I'm not saying games have gotten worse either. I'm saying that they are no where near the point on which we should put them on such a high pedistal. Developer performance is nice, its not a factor when I compare the elemnets of the games however. I'm not nostalgic when I say Yoshi's Island is a better platfromer than anything released. I'm also not nostalgc when I say SM64 isn't a great game and Galaxy blows it out of the water.

Gamers also are hardly worth listening to. We all have way too much of an emotional attachment to what we hype. I trust this message board about as much as I trust the media. That is virtually zero. There are a few people here who give good incite but gamer praise from people who take part is "System Wars" is not worth my time.

[QUOTE="skinny_man_69"]

The fact that OoT is winning in this poll gives me hopefor System Wars yet :)

RadecSupreme

Really, I actually find it pathetic that people base which game is better on their nostalgia rather than the actual quality and work put into making an extremely fun game with a great entertaining story and amazing mix of 3rd person shooter, puzzles, and platforming.:|

My God, have you ever played a good platformer or puzzle game? I reallly need to play Uncharted 2 so I can be disappointed by the aspects people are praising. I'm sure it will be a damn amazing expierence but I'm also sure I will not find any competent puzzles or platforming either.

[QUOTE="skinny_man_69"]

The fact that OoT is winning in this poll gives me hopefor System Wars yet :)

Really, I actually find it pathetic that people base which game is better on their nostalgia rather than the actual quality and work put into making an extremely fun game with a great entertaining story and amazing mix of 3rd person shooter, puzzles, and platforming.:|

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="randomwiiplayer"]

I could say the same about Ocarina of Time.

randomwiiplayer

I wasn't at SW when Oot came out. Were you?

Well I figured you meant it is overrated because UC2 is already out. They are both overrated.

it might be overrated, but its still better then UC2 :P

but seriously, which AAA-AAAA game isnt overrated? apart from Okami ;P

[QUOTE="RadecSupreme"]

[QUOTE="skinny_man_69"]

The fact that OoT is winning in this poll gives me hopefor System Wars yet :)

ActicEdge

Really, I actually find it pathetic that people base which game is better on their nostalgia rather than the actual quality and work put into making an extremely fun game with a great entertaining story and amazing mix of 3rd person shooter, puzzles, and platforming.:|

My God, have you ever played a good platformer or puzzle game? I reallly need to play Uncharted 2 so I can be disappointed by the aspects people are praising. I'm sure it will be a damn amazing expierence but I'm also sure I will not find any competent puzzles or platforming either.

Ocarina no question

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="RadecSupreme"]

Really, I actually find it pathetic that people base which game is better on their nostalgia rather than the actual quality and work put into making an extremely fun game with a great entertaining story and amazing mix of 3rd person shooter, puzzles, and platforming.:|

Arjdagr8

My God, have you ever played a good platformer or puzzle game? I reallly need to play Uncharted 2 so I can be disappointed by the aspects people are praising. I'm sure it will be a damn amazing expierence but I'm also sure I will not find any competent puzzles or platforming either.

I go into every game like that. I don't compare diirectly but if I go into a game with the thought "it has an amazing story" then I'm expecting an entertaining story. Same way if I watch a movie and hear "great action" I'm expectingsolid action in comparison to what I consider great action. The idea that I will go into a game with no preconceived notions is silly. If that were the case I might as well wipe the thought of every game and mechanic I liked out of my head when I play a new game.

[QUOTE="Arjdagr8"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

My God, have you ever played a good platformer or puzzle game? I reallly need to play Uncharted 2 so I can be disappointed by the aspects people are praising. I'm sure it will be a damn amazing expierence but I'm also sure I will not find any competent puzzles or platforming either.

ActicEdge

I go into every game like that. I don't compare diirectly but if I go into a game with the thought "it has an amazing story" then I'm expecting an entertaining story. Same way if I watch a movie and hear "great action" I'm expectingsolid action in comparison to what I consider great action. The idea that I will go into a game with no preconceived notions is silly. If that were the case I might as well wipe the thought of every game and mechanic I liked out of my head when I play a new game.

[QUOTE="Couth_"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

I have played all of them besides orange box and Uncharted 2 (has to wait until December. Well Technically I never diid finish OoT but I did play it). And yeah it is absoluetly proof. When I go back and read throught the reviews ofthe old games the scale is much more harsh. There is literally none of that now. The whole games are getting better argument does not work with me either because its fallacy that newer technology breeds better games. Technology is not the only facto games are based. Nostalgia is not what's blinding me, I'm perfectly able to see which games deserve their scores and praise and which don't.

ActicEdge

And yes, it's either Nostalgia or System Wars that's blinding you. Both of which are fail. Just because a game gets hyped to the moon on a message board, doesn't mean it's the greatest thing of all time. But if a game is getting high praise from the media and GAMERS a like, it's probably deserving.

Not at all. The first being I don't listen to reviews because they are not written with any sort of competancy or integrity by neutral people. The imaturity of the gaming media has taught me that they have nothing worth listening to. Disagree if you like but its not like its difficult to find examples of this piss poor attitude and journalism (or lack of) they display.

Also no, there is no reason for me to believe games are getting better than the best of old. None at all. Technology increasing and creativity is fine, it still doesn't make the games themselves better. It makes them better technical pieces but that really isn't all of a big selling point. I'm not saying games have gotten worse either. I'm saying that they are no where near the point on which we should put them on such a high pedistal. Developer performance is nice, its not a factor when I compare the elemnets of the games however. I'm not nostalgic when I say Yoshi's Island is a better platfromer than anything released. I'm also not nostalgc when I say SM64 isn't a great game and Galaxy blows it out of the water.

Gamers also are hardly worth listening to. We all have way too much of an emotional attachment to what we hype. I trust this message board about as much as I trust the media. That is virtually zero. There are a few people here who give good incite but gamer praise from people who take part is "System Wars" is not worth my time.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]Not at all. The first being I don't listen to reviews because they are not written with any sort of competancy or integrity by neutral people. The imaturity of the gaming media has taught me that they have nothing worth listening to. Disagree if you like but its not like its difficult to find examples of this piss poor attitude and journalism (or lack of) they display.

Also no, there is no reason for me to believe games are getting better than the best of old. None at all. Technology increasing and creativity is fine, it still doesn't make the games themselves better. It makes them better technical pieces but that really isn't all of a big selling point. I'm not saying games have gotten worse either. I'm saying that they are no where near the point on which we should put them on such a high pedistal. Developer performance is nice, its not a factor when I compare the elemnets of the games however. I'm not nostalgic when I say Yoshi's Island is a better platfromer than anything released. I'm also not nostalgc when I say SM64 isn't a great game and Galaxy blows it out of the water.

Gamers also are hardly worth listening to. We all have way too much of an emotional attachment to what we hype. I trust this message board about as much as I trust the media. That is virtually zero. There are a few people here who give good incite but gamer praise from people who take part is "System Wars" is not worth my time.

Couth_

This is a discussion board about video games, where people discuss video games. Not the integrity of who is talking about them. Sounds like you are on here for the wrong reasons.

Well duh, as to why I haven't commented on that (silly) debate. And no, my goal isn't to undermine anyone or anything. Where did you get that idea? But no, why am I going to argue something as subjective as this? If I thought it was worth discussing I'd finish Oot, play Uncharted 2 and bump the thread. I don't see it as worthwhile hence why I'm not going to.

And no, if you are going to tell me that "I'm nobody to undermine anything" you had best figure out what can and cannot be discussed in SW. SW is not just about game discussion. SW is about discussing the game industry as a whole and all the factors in it. That includes the reviewers the board holds up so highly. I know why I am here. If you think there is a right or wrong reason to be on SW and you decide it, you'd best get that hint superiority you have checked out.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Arjdagr8"] Don't go into any game trying to compare it to another and i'll think you'll enjoy it more. These versus threads are stupid. But i admit, atm it looks like uncharted 2 is my favourite single player experience.Arjdagr8

I go into every game like that. I don't compare diirectly but if I go into a game with the thought "it has an amazing story" then I'm expecting an entertaining story. Same way if I watch a movie and hear "great action" I'm expectingsolid action in comparison to what I consider great action. The idea that I will go into a game with no preconceived notions is silly. If that were the case I might as well wipe the thought of every game and mechanic I liked out of my head when I play a new game.

Well yeah. I'm not going to bother comparing. What is there to even compare? Graphics? Nope. Sound? Incredibly subjective. Gameplay? Subjective and not even similar at all. If you grade on pure design components you would probably have OoT win simply due to the fact that people generally say it holds up well after 11 years but its not really a fair comparison since Uncharted 2 is still being rviewed.

have both, played both, beat both (oot multiple times) and I must say that Oot is a better game, its longer and has a more engaging story with many more gamplay elements. That being said, Uncharted 2 is probably the best game of the year so far and I really enjoyed the story and characters. Its kind of like playing an awesome action movie and the last chapter was just epic.

[QUOTE="Arjdagr8"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

I go into every game like that. I don't compare diirectly but if I go into a game with the thought "it has an amazing story" then I'm expecting an entertaining story. Same way if I watch a movie and hear "great action" I'm expectingsolid action in comparison to what I consider great action. The idea that I will go into a game with no preconceived notions is silly. If that were the case I might as well wipe the thought of every game and mechanic I liked out of my head when I play a new game.

ActicEdge

Well yeah. I'm not going to bother comparing. What is there to even compare? Graphics? Nope. Sound? Incredibly subjective. Gameplay? Subjective and not even similar at all. If you grade on pure design components you would probably have OoT win simply due to the fact that people generally say it holds up well after 11 years but its not really a fair comparison since Uncharted 2 is still being rviewed.