uncharted 2 whats the fuss.

[QUOTE="chaplainDMK"]

You should learn to read or something.

He said "it doesent look much better" ... That means: It looks better, but not by much.

Do i have to type it the third time for you to understand?

seriously, i hate when people do this.

how does your grammar competency change from one post to another?

either you type with proper grammar or you don't, but for logic's sake, stay consistent.

[QUOTE="kontejner44"]

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

Again, that's a huge fallacy.

SgtKevali

You have no idea how science works do you

What the heck are you talking about? Where did science come into this?

because it's a scientific method, i'm not interested in philosofical debates.

[QUOTE="Utensilman"][QUOTE="kontejner44"]

Sorry to disappoint but majority opinion = most likely the truth.

I can tell you with high certainty that this game is the best of 2009, and that the single player component is one of the best games this gen.

nono you are confusing sales imply quality, that's not true however

By the definition of what quality is in a game, UC2 is one of the best games this gen. This is comming from a SHEEP! lol

Fun factor =/= quality

Entertainment factor =/= quality

You can see the quality in the game, whilst you personally are not enjoying it.

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

[QUOTE="kontejner44"]

You have no idea how science works do you

kontejner44

What the heck are you talking about? Where did science come into this?

because it's a scientific method, i'm not interested in philosofical debates.

Popular opinion about something has NOTHING to do with empirical evidence or the scientific method. I think YOU don't know what you're talking about. I said nothing about philosophy at all.

[QUOTE="chaplainDMK"]

Yes, I know it hurts when you're wrong. SoRawr2

wow, either you're failing to come to a realization of the point, or are remaining ignorant to what i'm trying to express.

in a previous post, you used no apostrophes, no correct spelling ("doesn't"), and then went on to somehow "boast" your grammar to a higher degree.

why are you now using apostrophes now, if you weren't before?

seriously, i'm not being a grammar nazi, this type of inconsistency simply pisses me off because it's people pretending to be something they are not.

Im not pretending anything. English is not my native language, its 1 o'clock in the morning and you're trying to be some english teacher here, but you dont know how to read.

And please, wear that signature with pride, it shows who you are...

[QUOTE="kontejner44"]

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

What the heck are you talking about? Where did science come into this?

SgtKevali

because it's a scientific method, i'm not interested in philosofical debates.

Popular opinion about something has NOTHING to do with empirical evidence or the scientific method. I think YOU don't know what you're talking about. I said nothing about philosophy at all.

If you make a scientific study you will find that the certainty of the games quality is usually dictated by scores. But that of course does not tell you or me, if we are going to enjoy the game or not, just that it is a damn good game.

you know if a reveiwer is good, if the review is close to the consensus (Metacritic etc)

Why do people still make threads like this?

chaplainDMK

I hate people who say "I don't care about reviews I'm enjoying the game"

Professional reviews from huge sites are often spot on. I do have fun playing 6 and 7's and even lower scored games, but I can understand why the game only scored so much despite the fact that I put in 500+ hours and it being my personal best game.

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

[QUOTE="kontejner44"]

because it's a scientific method, i'm not interested in philosofical debates.

kontejner44

Popular opinion about something has NOTHING to do with empirical evidence or the scientific method. I think YOU don't know what you're talking about. I said nothing about philosophy at all.

If you make a scientific study you will find that the certainty of the games quality is usually dictated by scores. But that of course does not tell you or me, if we are going to enjoy the game or not, just that it is a damn good game.

you know if a reveiwer is good, if the review is close to the consensus (Metacritic etc)

[QUOTE="sanim02"]

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

You state that as if it's a fact, which it is not. It's a fallacy to say that popular opinion is "true".

SgtKevali

I'm saying it in a way that means "let it go". If your trying to start off a debate with how UC2 does not look better than X game, go ahead but seriously, it won't prove anything.

I'm not trying to start any debate. All I'm saying is that it is no more "true" that X game is better than Y game because of popular opinion. My personal position is that UC2 is a great game, although I didn't like it that much. And you commited a logical fallacy, I'm going to point it out.

What logical fallacy? That it was the best looking game of last year? Re-read what I said and the sentence before it. Also read my reply to what you bolded. The only logical fallacy that might have occured was the misunderstanding we are having here.

It's like you saying "My personal position is that UC2 is a great game, although I didn't like it that much." How can something be great but not be of your taste? Then it's not great anymore now is it?

What I stated was that it was the best looking game and that's that because you can't change 2009 (I'm sure you didnt mean that). Although if you still believe I commited a crime, please forgive me.:P

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

[QUOTE="kontejner44"]

because it's a scientific method, i'm not interested in philosofical debates.

kontejner44

Popular opinion about something has NOTHING to do with empirical evidence or the scientific method. I think YOU don't know what you're talking about. I said nothing about philosophy at all.

If you make a scientific study you will find that the certainty of the games quality is usually dictated by scores. But that of course does not tell you or me, if we are going to enjoy the game or not, just that it is a damn good game.

you know if a reveiwer is good, if the review is close to the consensus (Metacritic etc)

Just because you scientifically compile opinion, it doesn't make it much less than opinion. Although I actually agree that quality is not completely opinion, it's not fact either.

It has a fantastic single player experience coupled with an excellent multiplayer along with awesome graphics that really pop. also Victor Goddamn Sullivan is just win.

just an over-rated cow game

So I was at gamestop and haven't bought a PS3 game in a long time so I was checking out god of war and uncharted 2, So I decided to get uncharted since everyone on these forums says this game awesome plus it has amazing graphics.

This game is alright and for the graphics, and what people say no other game comes close to it. WTH are some of you smoking I will say this game is prob the best looking console game But it really doesn't look much better than killzone 2 are even gears of war 2

For the people that say this game is on par with Crysis.LOL

gamer4life85

the game is awesome. the single player experience is second to none and so is the graphics. However, the replay value is bad and the multiplayer is garbage (thats right i said it).

[QUOTE="kontejner44"]

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

Popular opinion about something has NOTHING to do with empirical evidence or the scientific method. I think YOU don't know what you're talking about. I said nothing about philosophy at all.

SgtKevali

If you make a scientific study you will find that the certainty of the games quality is usually dictated by scores. But that of course does not tell you or me, if we are going to enjoy the game or not, just that it is a damn good game.

you know if a reveiwer is good, if the review is close to the consensus (Metacritic etc)

Just because you scientifically compile opinion, it doesn't make it much less than opinion. Although I actually agree that quality is not completely opinion, it's not fact either.

I'm not sayin it'sa fact because there's a subjective touch to the score aswell. Some people have different views on games, as in, how much story should weight in in the overall score of a game. People who only care for story will find SMG boring for example and as a result give it minus in score.

If you read the text review, and it is inconsistent with the majority of the reviews, there's a high chance that this review is biased.

just an over-rated cow game

GrannyGoat

just an over-rated cow game

GrannyGoat

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

[QUOTE="sanim02"]

I'm saying it in a way that means "let it go". If your trying to start off a debate with how UC2 does not look better than X game, go ahead but seriously, it won't prove anything.

sanim02

I'm not trying to start any debate. All I'm saying is that it is no more "true" that X game is better than Y game because of popular opinion. My personal position is that UC2 is a great game, although I didn't like it that much. And you commited a logical fallacy, I'm going to point it out.

What logical fallacy? That it was the best looking game of last year? Re-read what I said and the sentence before it. Also read my reply to what you bolded. The only logical fallacy that might have occured was the misunderstanding we are having here.

It's like you saying "My personal position is that UC2 is a great game, although I didn't like it that much." How can something be great but not be of your taste? Then it's not great anymore now is it?

What I stated was that it was the best looking game and that's that because you can't change 2009 (I'm sure you didnt mean that). Although if you still believe I commited a crime, please forgive me.:P

You appealed to popular opinion, didn't you? That's a fallacy. What I mean by saying that it's a great game, but I did not like it is that I can tell hard work and effort went into the game, and that it actually has high production values. I just didn't like it.

[QUOTE="GrannyGoat"]

just an over-rated cow game

Santesyu

Why does that picture inspire so much inner lulz?

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

[QUOTE="kontejner44"]

If you make a scientific study you will find that the certainty of the games quality is usually dictated by scores. But that of course does not tell you or me, if we are going to enjoy the game or not, just that it is a damn good game.

you know if a reveiwer is good, if the review is close to the consensus (Metacritic etc)

kontejner44

Just because you scientifically compile opinion, it doesn't make it much less than opinion. Although I actually agree that quality is not completely opinion, it's not fact either.

I'm not sayin it'sa fact because there's a subjective touch to the score aswell. Some people have different views on games, as in, how much story should weight in in the overall score of a game. People who only care for story will find SMG boring for example and as a result give it minus in score.

If you read the text review, and it is inconsistent with the majority of the reviews, there's a high chance that this review is biased.

Exactly. Reviews are very subjective. Some people like certain gameplay elements, others don't. Some people like certain story elements, others hate them etc. Bias will always seep in, making it in large part based in opinion, not "fact".

well im gonna be playing uncharted in a couple hours my GT: gamer4life85 hit me up lol on the people that think Ihate this games.

People on here need some hugss.

[QUOTE="kontejner44"]

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

Just because you scientifically compile opinion, it doesn't make it much less than opinion. Although I actually agree that quality is not completely opinion, it's not fact either.

SgtKevali

I'm not sayin it'sa fact because there's a subjective touch to the score aswell. Some people have different views on games, as in, how much story should weight in in the overall score of a game. People who only care for story will find SMG boring for example and as a result give it minus in score.

If you read the text review, and it is inconsistent with the majority of the reviews, there's a high chance that this review is biased.

Exactly. Reviews are very subjective. Some people like certain gameplay elements, others don't. Some people like certain story elements, others hate them etc. Bias will always seep in, making it in large part based in opinion, not "fact".

It's not fact, but it's highly likely that UC2 is deserving of scores / awards it gets. The gameplay is perfected. There's not much innovation to push a perfect score though and it's too short. I don't expect UC3 fixing that but who knows!

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

[QUOTE="kontejner44"]

I'm not sayin it'sa fact because there's a subjective touch to the score aswell. Some people have different views on games, as in, how much story should weight in in the overall score of a game. People who only care for story will find SMG boring for example and as a result give it minus in score.

If you read the text review, and it is inconsistent with the majority of the reviews, there's a high chance that this review is biased.

kontejner44

Exactly. Reviews are very subjective. Some people like certain gameplay elements, others don't. Some people like certain story elements, others hate them etc. Bias will always seep in, making it in large part based in opinion, not "fact".

It's not fact, but it's highly likely that UC2 is deserving of scores / awards it gets. The gameplay is perfected. There's not much innovation to push a perfect score though and it's too short. I don't expect UC3 fixing that but who knows!

I've already laid out all my arguments, ignore them if you wish, but I'm finished.

I love Uncharted 1 & 2 but I also love Gears 1 &2 all great games

What spurred this outing? and I can hardly understand a word you typed.Jynxzor

Seriously? :/ its common english. Sure it's not perfect, but it's understandable unless you lack a functionning brain. Also i agree to some extent of what TC said, UC2 while featuring stunning graphics and presentation, i really don't understand the praise it gets. It has average gameplay.

I really liked when I first played it at christmas but know I don't think its all that great. The graphics were great yeah but what else, definityl not the story or gameplay

wellme coming to this post was a waste of time. thank you OP.

I grumbled about the jaggies in UC2.

But you know what? I have an awfully hard time stopping play and putting the controller down whenever I played UC2. I kept coming back for more even though I stinked with the controller. Personally, it's a fun game. It looks great in its own right. It felt polished. It's one of the games I wished would be ported to the PC.

So I was at gamestop and haven't bought a PS3 game in a long time so I was checking out god of war and uncharted 2, So I decided to get uncharted since everyone on these forums says this game awesome plus it has amazing graphics.

This game is alright and for the graphics, and what people say no other game comes close to it. WTH are some of you smoking I will say this game is prob the best looking console game But it really doesn't look much better than killzone 2 are even gears of war 2

For the people that say this game is on par with Crysis.LOL

Seriously I think most of the time graphics complaints actually stem from people not having quality viewing aparatus. aka a decent tv or monitor, lol.