Uncharted 4 is too good from a technical perspective

As a pc gamer, graphics is very important. It justifies spending $1000 every time Nvidia releases a new gtx x80 card (granted the games are worthy enough)... My raid 0 failed today so I ended up playing uncharted 4 again. I thought it was going to be a shit experience cause I've gotten too used to 1440p 60fps but man am I wrong. On a less than 2TF machine Naughty Dog somehow managed to make such a beautiful game, one which not many pc games can beat from a technical perspective... Granted the textures are not as sharp as Witcher 3 or Crysis, The sheer amount of detail in every single section of Uncharted 4 is beyond impressive, combine that with Naughty Dogs ability to use colour so well but not over doing it. Of course all of it is to compliment that very fun gameplay, lovable characters and interesting plot... The point is, just how the **** is Naughty Dog able to produce such a technical masterpiece using 2TF machine?!?

Agreed Microsoft and PC need a Naughty Dog level studio.

I run into my nephews and nieces who lush over uncharted its their favorite game series. This is there Pitfall and Mario. THe games look an run great and they went crazy for the last of us.

I dunno what microsoft and PC are up to but its time to get to work no more quantum breaks no more breaks build a uncharted or a last of us and get it done for the kids of tomorrow.

Another UC4 thread....

But dem lemons tho.

LODs, pre-baked lighting, using sprites for most of vegetation.

I thought this was a protos thread. I'm still thinking it's a protos thread. Ohhh protos was the first reply..... Convenient aye.

It's sad that uncharted is only on playstation. Imagine how gorgeous it could be on PC

@mcpanties: What are you talking about? We already have Uncharted on PC through PS Now.

30 fps kills my eyes but only when it's on my monitor, on the TV it's not as bad due to the greater distance. 60+ is still way, way better than 30.

As for how ND do it? Smoke and mirrors techniques honed to perfection while being restricted by PS3 hardware for so many years i.e. small, focused fields of view with Matte backgrounds that look really impressive but are not actually anything but a flat back drop, lots of DoF, film grain and motion blur, pre-baked lighting etc. which reduce the requirement for high levels assets. Big advances in streaming tech over the last few years has helped a lot, as well as lots and lots of loading screens hidden behind non interactive walking simulator scenes.

Uncharted is not even top 50 graphic

Obvious fakeboy. You and Protoss have to work on your subtlety.

Uncharted is my favorite series after 30 years of gaming. The 4th is a beautiful game with a great story and fun gameplay. Actually, it's story made it my favorite game of all time.

The multiplayer on the other hand was fun for a while but now feels like a husk of previous Uncharted multiplayer versions. The big elephant in the room is the lack of coop which is what kept me going in the previous two. It almost seems like ND gave the fans the middle finger on delaying the coop for 6 plus months.

Who the heck still uses raid 0 in this day and ssd age ?

You aren't a real PC gamer then.

Real PC gamers care about things like customization, mods and the freedom of input. They care about things like Minecraft and DOTA2, not pushing hardware to it's limit. Those aren't even gamers for the most part, but hardware enthusiasts who spend more time overclocking their equipment to get a better score on their benchmarks.

And to the untrained eye, Uncharted 4 looks impressive, but anyone who has gamed on top-end PC equipment knows that's not the case. There are a lot of clever tricks in place to cover up the fact it's not this monster technical achievement.

EDIT: Because people have problems understanding sarcasm, I'll throw in a ";)" to give people an idea that I'm not being serious here.

@FreedomFreeLife: go ahead, make that list

@iandizion713 said:

But dem lemons tho.

LOL come on. Its a great game visually and overall imo. There are flaws as with any game. ND are great devs. I love their work.

That's why it current gen 8 most recent 10/10 excluive.

@cainetao11 said:

@iandizion713 said:

But dem lemons tho.

LOL come on. Its a great game visually and overall imo. There are flaws as with any game. ND are great devs. I love their work.

*cough* witcher 3

@mcpanties: Why cough? Witcher 3 is a more enjoyable game imo. Especially on PC where I can import my save files to have Geralt reflect my entire journey through the trilogy.

None of that means Uncharted 4 isn't a stellar game to play.

It's simple really, a lot of stuff is faked and scripted. Physics, lighting..etc can always look amazing. Even some PS3 games still look pretty darn good considering the hardware and 256mb of ram. Development for PC, they basically just use the various engines such as Havoc/Physx or things like RealTree...etc. On console they often hardcode everything to the point where some 2d objects in the background will rotate or whatever to mimick a 3D effect, well placed static shadows that are programmed to warp, bend or reshape if the light changes to "x" or camera moves to "y" position...etc. They do these things on PC's to certain extents but often it's not necessary but we are seeing more uses of it in some VR titles since VR needs a lot of power. For example, environmental physics have taken quite a downgrade in most every game in recent years since the scattering of objects can always be predetermined without the player noticing much. Some just use cloth physics and ragdoll physics with little regard to much else. A.i. has virtually gone nowhere, often games are giving us scripts.

Actually there's nothing that advanced being used in UC at all, they made a good engine for lower end specs, much like the Tech Engine 5. However on PC, they don't have strict limitations of the PS dev kit. Then you have budget, put enough millions of dollars to good talent and that's what you can get. All they are doing is offloading the CPU and GPU work for things that aren't going to be nearly as noticeable for the type of game they are creating. Often on consoles, they literally design maps just so they don't require much hardware.

@foxhound_fox: oh please **** off with this real PC gamer bullshit.

Witcher 3 and uncharted 4 cannot be compared. Uncharted 4 is like a movie that you sometimes control. Witcher 3 is a huge open world game with tons of quests and things you can customize. Witcher 3 is perfection

I loled.

I've been on a hiatus from this place for a few years and there's a lot that hasn't changed. One of those is foxhound_fox still having his head shoved up his own ass with whatever fanboy school he's currently flip-flopping on.

Thanks for the early morning laughs blab.

Hes right though, PC gamers dont care about gimmicks, all they care about is fun Counterstrike, LoL, WoW, etc.

I guess your right too though, being crazy about gimmicks like graphics doesnt make you fake.

I don't believe I compared the two. I simply admit that I, as a gamer, can and do enjoy playing both. Give letting go and opening up a try. You get to enjoy more in life.

Uncharted 4 too good technically? Who comes up its shit like this? My bad, I forgot who the original poster was. ?

@pyratrum: hey man, I'm not saying I agree with you, but I'm not saying I disagree with you in the slightest either about him, feel me?

@GhostHawk196:

Dude, imagine an Uncharted game on pc! Like, real pc! How awesome could it look with the strongest specs in the market today?!

The funny thing is, even after all these years, people still have trouble knowing when I'm being serious, or satirical.

Of course there is no such thing as a "real" gamer or a "fake" gamer. But I responded in kind with the TC's assertion that because he's a PC gamer, that somehow gives him some authority over determining the quality of a game's graphics in relation to others.

UC4 is an impressive PS4 game. On a technical level, it's a great looking game but already behind technical achievements on the PC. And technical achievements are one of the only objective things in gaming. If anything, it would be better to say UC4 is a better artistic achievement, since it can convince so many people it looks better than it actually is.

Back on Topic: You're right OP, UC4 is a very very impressive game. I'm a PC gamer as well and I'm also impressed with how Naughty Dog was able to pull off what they did on a PS4. It's why they are considered one of the best devs in the industry and why they are the only AAAAE on Gamespot this year. It's also the reason they will win most of the GOTY awards for 2016.

Because the internet is serious business and we must take everything everyone says on the internet as truth.

It's nice to know that friendliness among old timers is all but dead at this point.

Hah, you may be right and I might have read into it as serious business but it falls in line with your usual pretentious attitude so its hard to say. You know?

Pretentious? Lol. I haven't been pretentious on the internet in years.

But hey, you haven't been here for years, so how would you know?

I love ND and Uncharted, but I didnt find U4 all that impressive graphics wise. It was standarly good looking game, but nothing special.

Also U4 should have been 60fps

As with ALL console games, the answer is sacrifices.

It looks great as an overall image, but it falls apart with close scrutiny.......like all console games.

Not to mention the 30fps cap and AA method used.

You lost credibility when you said you went from 1440p/60fps on PC and was still wow'd.

That drop from 60 to 30 is jarring.

As a PC gamer graphics has never been the big draw card for me. Where PC trumps console without question is the sheer variety of games, and that's why I prefer it (and of course decent framerates and resolutions, both of which are hard to find in console games.)

[citation needed]

Cow's are claiming PC gamers status now.

owait, I thought you were also a lemming?

Cows have multiple personality disorder

They suffer from cognitive dissonance.

for me i guess frame rate anywhere aboce 30 is fine. i dont mind playing at 30 or 60 either way.

It's all about how much money and time you want to pump into a title, look at Star Citizen on PC, blows anything out of the water easily, looks to be a game 3 generations ahead of anything right now, because of money and time.

Now give an amazing dev like Naughty Dog enough money and time and you get games like Uncharted 4, TLOU, Uncharted 2.

Seriously? This again...

Okay well here my fucking citation:

@GhostHawk196 said:

@dynamitecop said:

@GhostHawk196 said:

As a pc gamer, graphics is very important. It justifies spending $1000 every time Nvidia releases a new gtx x80 card (granted the games are worthy enough)... My raid 0 failed today so I ended up playing uncharted 4 again. I thought it was going to be a shit experience cause I've gotten too used to 1440p 60fps but man am I wrong. On a less than 2TF machine Naughty Dog somehow managed to make such a beautiful game, one which not many pc games can beat from a technical perspective... Granted the textures are not as sharp as Witcher 3 or Crysis, The sheer amount of detail in every single section of Uncharted 4 is beyond impressive, combine that with Naughty Dogs ability to use colour so well but not over doing it. Of course all of it is to compliment that very fun gameplay, lovable characters and interesting plot... The point is, just how the **** is Naughty Dog able to produce such a technical masterpiece using 2TF machine?!?

[citation needed]

Seriously? This again...

Okay well here my fucking citation:

I think what I said was a bit over your head, the above doesn't make you a PC gamer, it makes you a console gamer who built a PC and plays games on it following trends.

I don't care that you have one, I care about your credentials, experience and history in the medium.

WTF? LMAO. You don't need credentials to be a PC gamer. LMAO. You simply play games on a freaking PC. This new breed nonsense is exactly that NONSENSE.

True gamer. LMAO

True PC gamer. LMAO

True Console gamer. LMAO

Seriously though. WTF?

If you actually believe this horse shit then I don't know what to tell you.

You earn the title of PC gamer through experience, longevity, knowledge and history with the platform. It's no different than the logic that follows being a Journeyman in a trade, you get there by experience and thousands of hours invested in the trade to earn your title.

Some things in life just are, and others are earned.

"earn the title of a PC gamer"

lol

I run SSD RAID 0.... My read and write speeds are over 1Gb/s.

I've been a PC gamer for years and I've never read such stupid shit like this.

@dynamitecop: Its been awhile since I've read something so pretentious and cringe worthy, thanks I guess.

Oh god, earning the title of pc gamer, lol, you can't make up stupid shit like that!