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#51 emgesp
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@-God- said:

Why not just backwards compatibility for the loyal fans?

You would rather play the inferior versions with crappier resolution/framerate?

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#52 Suppaman100
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@nyadc said:

Doesn't look like they did a whole lot and I've got to say that these games while not even that old didn't age well at all. Sure the resolution and framerate can go a long way but beyond that the changes or actual work put into these games looks pretty minimal, mostly just unpacked textures and increased draw distance. I'll wait to get this one when it's second hand or very cheap, I'm just not seeing the point or value here, especially since the multiplayer was so lazily gutted.

This seems to be a recurring trend with Sony's remasters, the work done doesn't justify the price or even the existence.

And yet this trilogy shits on everything that's available on Xbone.

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@davillain- said:

For those of you who are bitching about the lack of no MP, the first Uncharted didn't have it and yet, it was a really good game in it's own right. Uncharted 2/3 to me was just a tack-on MP that I feel it didn't need it. I played both MP and I got bored with it in 2 weeks and really, not all games needs MP, this is one of them. That said, all 3 single player are really good, it didn't need MP from the gek-go in my opinion so don't let this collection get you down because MP isn't included but remember that there will be a Beta for Uncharted 4 so that's something worth it. That said, Uncharted games has alway have great single player and that's something to appreciate, not MP.

"i didn't like it" is irrelevant.

Plenty of people like Uncharted's mp, I liked Uncharted 2's mp. And I don't want half the fucking game when you are selling me a remaster, give me all of it. If the argument against MCC is that its broken, lets be fair here that game was broken because it had actual work and had to get 4 different mp engines and net codes working at once. Probably a big reason why this game is ducking mp, the only reason that it's not there is

A: it would have took more time
B: it would have been more work and money

So who took one for the team?...the fucking consumer. That whole "all games don't need mp crap" doesn't apply when they are selling a remaster. For new people? Sure to some of them they don't need the mp, but if you're going to remaster it also for the "fans" you remaster for ALL of the fans, because they want all of it. Not half of it.

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#54 l34052
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Does anyone know if the 3rd game still lets you play in 3d?

It was a great game anyways but playing in 3d was an aspect of the game i really enjoyed alot.

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#55 Epak_
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Hmmm... I think I want this.

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#56 SecretPolice
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With only 3 games compared to 4 games on MCC and with no MP whatsoever; if GS has any cred at all and even if all the games are perfect the highest score it should get is 5.0.

Alas, this is WeHateX1Spot so I expect no cred and the compilation gets an 8 or 9. :P

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#57  Edited By l34052
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@SecretPolice said:

With only 3 games compared to 4 games on MCC and with no MP whatsoever; if GS has any cred at all and even if all the games are perfect the highest score it should get is 5.0.

Alas, this is WeHateX1Spot so I expect no cred and the compilation gets an 8 or 9. :P

I dont get this obsession with MP in a game, Uncharted is not the type of game that lends itself (or is indeed meant to have) multiplayer in it, its a single player adventure game for gods sake.

I always felt the MP in Uncharted 2 was a tacked on after thought just to please the 14yr old kids (i.e. most users on here *sigh*) that play CoD to death rather than an actual proper part of the game.

After sampling it just to see, i never touched it again, the actual game was good enough to keep me occupied and have me complete it several times over without pointless gimmicks like MP.

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#58 SecretPolice
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@l34052:

Not an obsession but rather it will be an observation, we shall see is all.

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#59  Edited By -God-
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@emgesp said:
@-God- said:

Why not just backwards compatibility for the loyal fans?

You would rather play the inferior versions with crappier resolution/framerate?

1. XBONE BC games have higher res/fps (once out of beta). You are only paying because you are fanboys to Sony.

2. So by this logic, you shouldn't play any multiplats on consoles. Thanks!

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#60  Edited By tormentos
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@-God- said:

1. XBONE BC games have higher res/fps (once out of beta). You are only paying because you are fanboys to Sony.

2. So by this logic, you shouldn't play any multiplats on consoles. Thanks!

lol No fakeboy..lol

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#61 tormentos
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@SecretPolice said:

With only 3 games compared to 4 games on MCC and with no MP whatsoever; if GS has any cred at all and even if all the games are perfect the highest score it should get is 5.0.

Alas, this is WeHateX1Spot so I expect no cred and the compilation gets an 8 or 9. :P

Why it should get 5.?

Halo bread and butter is ONLINE gaming.

Uncharted bread and butter is SINGLE player,so while ill agree a deduction is in order here,it will not be 5 full points.

MCC was broken online when on 360 for a few dollars the other versions were working,single player wasn't Halo bread and butter multiplayer was and was totally broken.

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#62  Edited By -God-
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@tormentos said:
@-God- said:

1. XBONE BC games have higher res/fps (once out of beta). You are only paying because you are fanboys to Sony.

2. So by this logic, you shouldn't play any multiplats on consoles. Thanks!

lol No fakeboy..lol

So remasters $60 >>>>>>free BC of the same improvements because what?

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#63 GarGx1
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Looks like they done a reasonable job of up'ing the res and frame rates but should really be a given, considering they are porting old games (why are there are drops at all?) The rework and improvements of the u.i. and control response is a much better thing though a lot of that will come naturally from the frame rate increase.

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@cainetao11 said:

Same. No MP, no money from me. I have them all on PS3, and will spend my available game money on Halo, Rise of TR and Fallout 4

These games don't have multiplayer either.

They are new games and a better choice for full price, than a re-master of games he may already have.

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#64  Edited By emgesp
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@-God- said:
@emgesp said:
@-God- said:

Why not just backwards compatibility for the loyal fans?

You would rather play the inferior versions with crappier resolution/framerate?

1. XBONE BC games have higher res/fps (once out of beta). You are only paying because you are fanboys to Sony.

2. So by this logic, you shouldn't play any multiplats on consoles. Thanks!

XB1 will not improve 360 games.

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#65  Edited By Ten_Pints
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People keep droning on about the muliplayer, but I thought you got a beta version of their new multiplayer with it. It would make no sense to piss about remaking the old multiplayer if in 6 months time nobody will be playing it.

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#66  Edited By Zero_epyon
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@-God- said:
@tormentos said:
@-God- said:

1. XBONE BC games have higher res/fps (once out of beta). You are only paying because you are fanboys to Sony.

2. So by this logic, you shouldn't play any multiplats on consoles. Thanks!

lol No fakeboy..lol

So remasters $60 >>>>>>free BC of the same improvements because what?

Technically not free BC since you still have o buy the game at some point...

Not buying all 3 games saved a person $180. Now they can play all 3 for $60...

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#67 Zero_epyon
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@ten_pints said:

People keep droning on about the muliplayer, but I thought you got a beta version of their new multiplayer with it. It would make no sense to piss about remaking the old multiplayer if in 6 months time nobody will be playing it.

That's a good point though. I don't care either way since I've already played them. MP in Uncharted wasn't anything super special anyway.

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#68 Zero_epyon
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@emgesp said:
@-God- said:
@emgesp said:
@-God- said:

Why not just backwards compatibility for the loyal fans?

You would rather play the inferior versions with crappier resolution/framerate?

1. XBONE BC games have higher res/fps (once out of beta). You are only paying because you are fanboys to Sony.

2. So by this logic, you shouldn't play any multiplats on consoles. Thanks!

XB1 will not improve 360 games.

This. I don't know where he got that from. They literally said it would run exactly the same as it did on xbox. No frame-rate bumps, no updated mechanics, no bump in resolution.

And why do you care @-God-? You're a PC gamer remember?

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#69 Ross_the_Boss6
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I could see myself getting this for $20. Uncharted 2 is the only game worth replaying though.

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#70 cainetao11
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@imt558: drake collection isn't replacing my ps3 copies 100% though. Why spend my money on it in lieu of new games then?

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#71 Zero_epyon
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@SecretPolice said:

With only 3 games compared to 4 games on MCC and with no MP whatsoever; if GS has any cred at all and even if all the games are perfect the highest score it should get is 5.0.

Alas, this is WeHateX1Spot so I expect no cred and the compilation gets an 8 or 9. :P

MCC scored low because of the issues it had which they felt ruined the experience. It wasn't because of content. I see this collection scoring higher simply because it works. Yes the MP missing will drop the score but not to a 5. A mode that the publisher already said will not be included is different than a mode the publisher says works but doesn't.

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#72  Edited By MlauTheDaft
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You know what the uncharted games needed? Tranq weapons!

@ten_pints said:

People keep droning on about the muliplayer, but I thought you got a beta version of their new multiplayer with it. It would make no sense to piss about remaking the old multiplayer if in 6 months time nobody will be playing it.

I think this is a reasonable explanation.

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@tormentos said:
@nyadc said:

Doesn't look like they did a whole lot and I've got to say that these games while not even that old didn't age well at all. Sure the resolution and framerate can go a long way but beyond that the changes or actual work put into these games looks pretty minimal, mostly just unpacked textures and increased draw distance. I'll wait to get this one when it's second hand or very cheap, I'm just not seeing the point or value here, especially since the multiplayer was so lazily gutted.

This seems to be a recurring trend with Sony's remasters, the work done doesn't justify the price or even the existence.

This from the dude who try to pass Halo 5 as a good looking game...lol

HAHA! Xbox superfan

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#74 Bread_or_Decide
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Not sure why people are so excited for this. Who didn't play these last gen?

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#75  Edited By Zero_epyon
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@Bread_or_Decide said:

Not sure why people are so excited for this. Who didn't play these last gen?

People who only owned an xbox 360 and not a PS3. That's supposed to be who they games are aimed toward.

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@Zero_epyon said:
@emgesp said:

XB1 will not improve 360 games.

This. I don't know where he got that from. They literally said it would run exactly the same as it did on xbox. No frame-rate bumps, no updated mechanics, no bump in resolution.

Actually it adds v-sync to every game, but at the cost of framerate sometimes. Everything else is the same though and the emulation could be buggy.

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#77 Zero_epyon
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@Chozofication said:
@Zero_epyon said:
@emgesp said:

XB1 will not improve 360 games.

This. I don't know where he got that from. They literally said it would run exactly the same as it did on xbox. No frame-rate bumps, no updated mechanics, no bump in resolution.

Actually it adds v-sync to every game, but at the cost of framerate sometimes. Everything else is the same though and the emulation could be buggy.

So at best it performs the same without tearing and at worse it actually drops frames. That's not much of an improvement, at least on the level that was described. Better than nothing I guess.

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@jg4xchamp said:
@davillain- said:

For those of you who are bitching about the lack of no MP, the first Uncharted didn't have it and yet, it was a really good game in it's own right. Uncharted 2/3 to me was just a tack-on MP that I feel it didn't need it. I played both MP and I got bored with it in 2 weeks and really, not all games needs MP, this is one of them. That said, all 3 single player are really good, it didn't need MP from the gek-go in my opinion so don't let this collection get you down because MP isn't included but remember that there will be a Beta for Uncharted 4 so that's something worth it. That said, Uncharted games has alway have great single player and that's something to appreciate, not MP.

"i didn't like it" is irrelevant.

Plenty of people like Uncharted's mp, I liked Uncharted 2's mp. And I don't want half the fucking game when you are selling me a remaster, give me all of it. If the argument against MCC is that its broken, lets be fair here that game was broken because it had actual work and had to get 4 different mp engines and net codes working at once. Probably a big reason why this game is ducking mp, the only reason that it's not there is

A: it would have took more time

B: it would have been more work and money

So who took one for the team?...the fucking consumer. That whole "all games don't need mp crap" doesn't apply when they are selling a remaster. For new people? Sure to some of them they don't need the mp, but if you're going to remaster it also for the "fans" you remaster for ALL of the fans, because they want all of it. Not half of it.

Exactly. There is no excuse for axing the MP.

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@nyadc: Those backgrounds are kind of static dude. Sterile too. I don't think the draw is graphics for the game but game play.

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#80 emgesp
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@Zero_epyon said:
@SecretPolice said:

With only 3 games compared to 4 games on MCC and with no MP whatsoever; if GS has any cred at all and even if all the games are perfect the highest score it should get is 5.0.

Alas, this is WeHateX1Spot so I expect no cred and the compilation gets an 8 or 9. :P

MCC scored low because of the issues it had which they felt ruined the experience. It wasn't because of content. I see this collection scoring higher simply because it works. Yes the MP missing will drop the score but not to a 5. A mode that the publisher already said will not be included is different than a mode the publisher says works but doesn't.

This collection won't get anything lower than a 8.5.

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#81  Edited By Zero_epyon
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@emgesp said:
@Zero_epyon said:
@SecretPolice said:

With only 3 games compared to 4 games on MCC and with no MP whatsoever; if GS has any cred at all and even if all the games are perfect the highest score it should get is 5.0.

Alas, this is WeHateX1Spot so I expect no cred and the compilation gets an 8 or 9. :P

MCC scored low because of the issues it had which they felt ruined the experience. It wasn't because of content. I see this collection scoring higher simply because it works. Yes the MP missing will drop the score but not to a 5. A mode that the publisher already said will not be included is different than a mode the publisher says works but doesn't.

This collection won't get anything lower than a 8.5.

GS uses whole numbers now so if they go near that score it will be an 8.

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There's really no point for this collection especially when they gutted out half of the games features, the online part. You could get the double pack and the third game and that would still cost less than this so called collection. These games are also already part of PSNow which they heavily advertised Uncharted as one of the games you could rent and play. I can't believe they're selling this a full price. No wonder why their fans are called cows...

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#83 emgesp
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@gago-gago said:

There's really no point for this collection especially when they gutted out half of the games features, the online part. You could get the double pack and the third game and that would still cost less than this so called collection. These games are also already part of PSNow which they heavily advertised Uncharted as one of the games you could rent and play. I can't believe they're selling this a full price. No wonder why their fans are called cows...

Uncharted 4 is coming out early next year, so who wants to be playing multiplayer on those old games?