uncharted demo CANT fit on dvd!

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#51 danielsmith2020
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why u think they needed 3 cores for x360, compression is needed only when hardware is poor.GermanShepard06

No. compression is used to improve load times, however on the xbox 360 it may be in the future that they have to use it to make the game fit on 1 disk. When that happens then we know that dvd9 is too small. 

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#52 Evilcator
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Mass Effect looks comparable in graphics, and probably surpasses it in scope, and fits on a DVD9.

Sony's in-house developers are going to say everything their bosses tell them to to get blue ray into people's homes. That's a fact.

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Not really... at least not what I've seen so far... 

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#53 skyform
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This game looks so stunning and fun to play damn, not even one game on 360 comes even a bit close graphical and yea im a Xbox 360 owner and i really like the 360 but this game owns.

This game is on my fav list since they show it for the first time, just stunning.

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#54 deactivated-5f956b96dc672
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[QUOTE="Medjai"][QUOTE="Harbadakus"]I guess that demo won't be downloadable on psn. :?Supafly1

yeah i was like wtf when I saw the thread topic... so you are going to download a 9 gig demo TC? Bogus

I think he meant a single-layer DVD but that doesn't change the problem. A 4.7+ GB demo. Sounds like BS to me.

if a demo really cant fit on a dvd, which is 9GB, then how long will the whole game be?

lets see...a demo will be at most 20 mins. that means 20 mins per 9GB.  BR is roughly 6 dvds, so the game will be 120 minutes long or lengthy 2 hours 

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#55 ssbfalco
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[QUOTE="GermanShepard06"]why u think they needed 3 cores for x360, compression is needed only when hardware is poor.danielsmith2020

No. compression is used to improve load times, however on the xbox 360 it may be in the future that they have to use it to make the game fit on 1 disk. When that happens then we know that dvd9 is too small.

 

Exactly... (well for the most part), and the harware is definantly not poor if it can decompress those textures on the fly as they are transferred to the GPU... 

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#56 Educated_Gamer
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I know I heard him say that, but I thought maybe i didn't hear him right...holy crap the demo can't even fit on a dvd...just imagine complex the entire game is....and all I hear on these boards is "blu-ray is not needed". If there's blu-ray it will be used for a better experience.Evil-Zero86

if a demo cant ft on a dvd the whole game would ccertainly not fit on a bluray disk 

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#57 Educated_Gamer
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[QUOTE="Smoke_ManMuscle"]

Mass Effect looks comparable in graphics, and probably surpasses it in scope, and fits on a DVD9.

Sony's in-house developers are going to say everything their bosses tell them to to get blue ray into people's homes. That's a fact.

Evilcator

 

Not really... at least not what I've seen so far...

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 http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ss5y4h8m9dE

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#58 Wasdie  Moderator
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Well they are constantly streaming data off of the disk, compressing it would slow down the data stream significatnly.
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#59 BrownWalrus
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I'm more happy/surprised that pretty much every trailer i saw of PS3 games lived up to how they were shown in the trailer. I remember back when the trailer was first released, how everyone was calling lies on it, claiming it to be cgi. Great to see how far they have taken it.
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#60 lhughey
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Some of your guys kill me!  Let set the records straight right now.

The CPU can extract compressed data much faster than the BR drive can read data.  This means that there is a big speed avantage to having compressed data on the disk, passing the data to the CPU, then extracting it. 

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#61 Dreams-Visions
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Actually, I took it as a shameless plug for the Blu-ray more than anything else. Is it really necessary to mention that?Zhengi

that's what I thought.  It's all about the sound, man.  I think the TrueHD uncompressed PCM sound they're putting on these games is what represents so much space being accounted for.  Resistance is the posterchild for this truth.  I bet when we find out the real breakdown of this games assets, we'll see very only 4 or 5GB of visual data...and 15GB of sound data.

to say "it must be on Blu-Ray"...I'm a skeptic until I actually see a disc that they can verify isn't just sound/HD Video. 

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#63 martin_f
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All he said was it was coming out in the Holiday season and thats it?
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#64 martin_f
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAZTLVJSlNw
 
This is what I thinkof the subject at hand.
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#65 Danthegamingman
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I'm more happy/surprised that pretty much every trailer i saw of PS3 games lived up to how they were shown in the trailer. I remember back when the trailer was first released, how everyone was calling lies on it, claiming it to be cgi. Great to see how far they have taken it. BrownWalrus
your kidding right?  You actually think PS3 games are looking like their CGI trailer counterparts?  Sorry, but LOL
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#66 Marka1700
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Over 9 Gig demo, I call BS, PC Game demo arnt even that big. And if it is true, don't expect somthing this size to be hosted on PSN, and if it was most people couln't even download a demo that big.

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#67 chat2
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When are brainwashed fanboys going to learn BLU-RAY IS 100% COMPLETELY USELESS IT IS ONLY USED FOR NOT SWITCHING DISKS THAT BLOODY WELL IT.

 

And if they cant get a DEMO onto a dvd they are the WORST video game develoeprs on the planet. NOTHING should ever be so bloated that it cant fit on a dvd. No game in existence needs anything higher then 9 gigs unless it is overloaded with uselsss CGI movies. THe ONLY reason sony is deliberatly over-bloating their games is so they can sell you on a $1200 blu-ray player. 360 games have just as much content as ps3 games with BETTER graphics yet are afraction of the siz? Can someone tell me that? And explain if blu-ray is needed and esential for next gen gaming and the 360 is crippeled cause of dvd why Oblivion fits on a single-layer dvd and still clocks in at 100+ hours of gameplay with impressive graphics?

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blu ray can be used for not switching disk then its not 100% useless, jeez! and compression has limits why do you think ps2, xbox and xbox 360 use DVD9 instead of DVD5 or a simple compact disk. 

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#68 archpro
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Sign here if you think the TC's stupid.

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