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#1 JiveT
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From the IGN preview:

"While Lara is practically synonymous with vast, labyrinthine levels, Drake's trek from his landing spot to the wreckage of his plane in the early build we played is a strictly linear affair. Hopefully things will open out in later levels but, currently, there's something disappointingly old-school about your progress. Despite, expansive vistas and promise of all manner of explorable nooks and crannies in amongst the gorgeously lush terrain, you're essentially forced along one narrow jungle corridor, with fallen logs and boulders determined to spoil your fun."

I don't know when this game is going to be released but it doesn't sound very good. One more quote:

"it's difficult to assess how well Uncharted will hold up against Crystal Dynamics's sterling platform puzzle work on the Tomb Raider franchise."

Dude Raider FTL.

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#2 _S0LID_SNAKE_
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So you just go on a linear jungle path the whole game?
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#3 lordxymor
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Games with stories >> anything else.

That is, if the story is good.

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#4 _en1gma_
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So you just go on a linear jungle path the whole game..... _S0LID_SNAKE_

the article is only suspecting that. that will not be good, if true

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#5 Trading_Zoner
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Linear games aren't always a bad thing, and old school feeling games can be fun IMO. It all comes down to personal preferance really. I think this game look really fun because it combines SoTC style climbing and platforming, with a sort of GeOW style cover system combat. And the graphics look pretty good too.
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#6 danielsmith2020
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So you just go on a linear jungle path the whole game?_S0LID_SNAKE_

And we all know how terrible that was in MGS3

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#7 Eltroz
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Games with stories >> anything else.

That is, if the story is good.

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no games with gameplay > rest. Story is great but if all I want is a story i will watch a movie. Gameplay is the most important part of a game.
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#8 _S0LID_SNAKE_
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Linear games aren't always a bad thing, and old school feeling games can be fun IMO. It all comes down to personal preferance really. I think this game look really fun because it combines SoTC style climbing and platforming, with a sort of GeOW style cover system combat. And the graphics look pretty good too.Trading_Zoner
From the looks of that preveiw it will flop at GS.....
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#9 _S0LID_SNAKE_
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[QUOTE="_S0LID_SNAKE_"]So you just go on a linear jungle path the whole game?danielsmith2020

And we all know how terrible that was in MGS3

oooooooohhhh the pain! :roll:
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#10 kkee
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Wasn't that preview from some of the beginning levels? There is still the chance that the game spreads out later on.
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#11 martin_f
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Its taken a while but this is the first Tomb Raider clone.
Graphically it looks good gameplay looks crap, you use Sixaxis to..... balance on a log?
Which could be done easily by swiveling an analogue stick?
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#12 Bread_or_Decide
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I welcome a bit of linear gameplay. Gears of War was 100% linear. Still AAA.
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#13 darthogre
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Isn't God of War linear?

Most games I've played are linear because they force you down one path to finish the level. The only games that don't tend to be linear are RPGs but I could be wrong.

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[QUOTE="_S0LID_SNAKE_"]So you just go on a linear jungle path the whole game?danielsmith2020

And we all know how terrible that was in MGS3



Agreed, this topic is weak bashing. The game looks good, too bad I'm not buying a PS3 until maybe 2009.
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#15 darthogre
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btw most games are linear because Developers know what sells games. Complicated games do not sell well with casuals therefore you will get a lot of linear games. And as said above I also though Gears of War was linear and didn't hear anyone complain about it.
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#16 deactivated-61ff675e61178
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The gametakes placeon an open island with no load times at all. This is probably just the very beginning where the help you get used to the controls, etc.
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#17 Mfals
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Gears of War but with split paths.
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#18 Carmilla31
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A Tomb Raider clone not as good as Tomb Raider? ZOMG call the press! Killzone is not as good as Halo because its a clone. Lost Odyssey is not as good as Final Fantasy because its a clone. etc.
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btw most games are linear because Developers know what sells games. Complicated games do not sell well with casuals therefore you will get a lot of linear games. And as said above I also though Gears of War was linear and didn't hear anyone complain about it.darthogre

GTA games kind of make that point null and void. However in my opinion a game can be both linear and open at the same time you just make the linear path obvious and then if people want to explore create areas for that as well and give them rewards for doing so. Also linear games tend to be able to put together a better game overall as it enables developers to dedicate the resources over a narrow area thus making the overall experience better , God of War is a great example of this.

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I don't see why the game needs to be directly compared to Tomb Raider, from what I've seen its clearly going to have more of a focus on combat, shooting, and cinematics. This is why I don't go to IGN...
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btw most games are linear because Developers know what sells games. Complicated games do not sell well with casuals therefore you will get a lot of linear games. And as said above I also though Gears of War was linear and didn't hear anyone complain about it.darthogre

If this changes your perspective even slightly, you were allowed to choose "left" or "right" paths. It's a little thing, but you know how it is.

I don't think linearity is a bad thing, but given Jak 3 it sounds crazy that Naughty Dog would make Uncharted linear. I'm afraid Lair, Uncharted, and Ratchet, indeed, all these single-player only games are going to be stupidly short, meaning the entire appeal is drained from it.

I'm hopeful, but I agree, this doesn't sound good.

Still, it kind of pisses me off that the TC is obviously not a Playstation 3 owner.

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After i read that the only thing that i could thing about is how the dev said that the demo was reushed and the final game will be much different and more polished...
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btw most games are linear because Developers know what sells games. Complicated games do not sell well with casuals therefore you will get a lot of linear games. And as said above I also though Gears of War was linear and didn't hear anyone complain about it.darthogre
That wasn't set in a jungle, that was set in a ruined city, it's usual in games with that setting. In a jungle, you'd expect something more like Far Cry, where you don't have to follow the same straight path.
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[QUOTE="darthogre"]btw most games are linear because Developers know what sells games. Complicated games do not sell well with casuals therefore you will get a lot of linear games. And as said above I also though Gears of War was linear and didn't hear anyone complain about it.Redfingers

If this changes your perspective even slightly, you were allowed to choose "left" or "right" paths. It's a little thing, but you know how it is.

I don't think linearity is a bad thing, but given Jak 3 it sounds crazy that Naughty Dog would make Uncharted linear. I'm afraid Lair, Uncharted, and Ratchet, indeed, all these single-player only games are going to be stupidly short, meaning the entire appeal is drained from it.

I'm hopeful, but I agree, this doesn't sound good.

Still, it kind of pisses me off that the TC is obviously not a Playstation 3 owner.

Sorry for a double post but.....how could you say that Uncharted or R&C are going to be short. It has already been confirmed that Uncharted will have a 17+ hour campaign, and R&C will have a 25+ hour campain. I don't know but that sounds pretty good to me.
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[QUOTE="darthogre"]btw most games are linear because Developers know what sells games. Complicated games do not sell well with casuals therefore you will get a lot of linear games. And as said above I also though Gears of War was linear and didn't hear anyone complain about it.Redfingers

If this changes your perspective even slightly, you were allowed to choose "left" or "right" paths. It's a little thing, but you know how it is.

I don't think linearity is a bad thing, but given Jak 3 it sounds crazy that Naughty Dog would make Uncharted linear. I'm afraid Lair, Uncharted, and Ratchet, indeed, all these single-player only games are going to be stupidly short, meaning the entire appeal is drained from it.

I'm hopeful, but I agree, this doesn't sound good.

Still, it kind of pisses me off that the TC is obviously not a Playstation 3 owner.

R&C might have some length, but isn't Lair going to be short? I can't remember.
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#26 StealthSting
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I'm afraid Lair, Uncharted, and Ratchet, indeed, all these single-player only games are going to be stupidly short, meaning the entire appeal is drained from it.

Redfingers

It's true that a lot of hyped games for the PS3 seem to be short. But in a way, the same situation happened with the PS2.

I could name you quite a lot of titles for the PS2 that fit into that description.

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#27 majadamus
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Cows. I've said it before, and I'll say it again, "Please stop hyping Uncharted."
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#28 _S0LID_SNAKE_
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Cows. I've said it before, and I'll say it again, "Please stop hyping Uncharted." majadamus
Its okay to hype Uncharted, but people need to stop hyping KillZone 2, not one screenshot has been released, only a fake CGI trailer that came out two years ago.
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#29 StealthSting
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Cows. I've said it before, and I'll say it again, "Please stop hyping Uncharted." majadamus

Why? Sure... from what I've seen I'm not as impressed as many people here, but the game is being made by Naughty Dog.

They gained a lot fans over the course of last generation do to their work, so... Why shouldn't people have high hopes for it? They know how to do quality games and a mere level is definitely not enough to make assumptions about what the game may offer as a whole in the end.

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Isn't God of War linear?

Most games I've played are linear because they force you down one path to finish the level. The only games that don't tend to be linear are RPGs but I could be wrong.

darthogre

Are you talking about consoles, most PC games are not linear? The only games that are linear are bad RPG's, shootersand platformers. Halo for example allowed you to approach tasks from a number of different angles that gave it huge replayability, Halo 2 did not and thats partof the reason why its single player sucked so badly.

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Really I doubt this - they stated why they made the games they did on each respective console, and the decisions were always based on the capability of the console. The Jak series has huge open worlds, yet they were still linear for the most part. I can't see ND taking a step backwards with this game. Knowing them they're going for huge, open, amazing looking area to show off their graphics engine.

The game might end up being a linear affair overall, but I seriously doubt we'll see cramped jungle corridors and such. If Uncharted is half the game that Jak 1,2 and 3 are I'll be a happy camper. Knowing ND, this will be much better than any of the Jaks. This is just my opinion however, and I'm definitely a ND fan, they haven't made a game I didn't like.

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Its like crash bandicoot. Only on the ps3, and its 2007.
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#34 _S0LID_SNAKE_
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Really I doubt this - they stated why they made the games they did on each respective console, and the decisions were always based on the capability of the console. The Jak series has huge open worlds, yet they were still linear for the most part. I can't see ND taking a step backwards with this game. Knowing them they're going for huge, open, amazing looking area to show off their graphics engine.

The game might end up being a linear affair overall, but I seriously doubt we'll see cramped jungle corridors and such. If Uncharted is half the game that Jak 1,2 and 3 are I'll be a happy camper. Knowing ND, this will be much better than any of the Jaks. This is just my opinion however, and I'm definitely a ND fan, they haven't made a game I didn't like.

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How can you doubt this? IGN played the game :|
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#35 furtherfan
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linear can still be fun.
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[QUOTE="darthogre"]btw most games are linear because Developers know what sells games. Complicated games do not sell well with casuals therefore you will get a lot of linear games. And as said above I also though Gears of War was linear and didn't hear anyone complain about it.Redfingers

If this changes your perspective even slightly, you were allowed to choose "left" or "right" paths. It's a little thing, but you know how it is.

I don't think linearity is a bad thing, but given Jak 3 it sounds crazy that Naughty Dog would make Uncharted linear. I'm afraid Lair, Uncharted, and Ratchet, indeed, all these single-player only games are going to be stupidly short, meaning the entire appeal is drained from it.

I'm hopeful, but I agree, this doesn't sound good.

Still, it kind of pisses me off that the TC is obviously not a Playstation 3 owner.

Wasn't gears stupidly short? I thought that would hurt it. Then it got a 9.6.

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[QUOTE="Redfingers"]

[QUOTE="darthogre"]btw most games are linear because Developers know what sells games. Complicated games do not sell well with casuals therefore you will get a lot of linear games. And as said above I also though Gears of War was linear and didn't hear anyone complain about it.agentfred

If this changes your perspective even slightly, you were allowed to choose "left" or "right" paths. It's a little thing, but you know how it is.

I don't think linearity is a bad thing, but given Jak 3 it sounds crazy that Naughty Dog would make Uncharted linear. I'm afraid Lair, Uncharted, and Ratchet, indeed, all these single-player only games are going to be stupidly short, meaning the entire appeal is drained from it.

I'm hopeful, but I agree, this doesn't sound good.

Still, it kind of pisses me off that the TC is obviously not a Playstation 3 owner.

Wasn't gears stupidly short? I thought that would hurt it. Then it got a 9.6.

Wasn't Gears an off and online multiplayer game too though? If it hadn't had those then it would have really hurt it.

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Pitiful IGN. There's a reason why I don't visit that terrible website. :roll:
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Hopefully the environments won't be just jungle based.
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#41 Primevil702
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[QUOTE="Primevil702"]

Really I doubt this - they stated why they made the games they did on each respective console, and the decisions were always based on the capability of the console. The Jak series has huge open worlds, yet they were still linear for the most part. I can't see ND taking a step backwards with this game. Knowing them they're going for huge, open, amazing looking area to show off their graphics engine.

The game might end up being a linear affair overall, but I seriously doubt we'll see cramped jungle corridors and such. If Uncharted is half the game that Jak 1,2 and 3 are I'll be a happy camper. Knowing ND, this will be much better than any of the Jaks. This is just my opinion however, and I'm definitely a ND fan, they haven't made a game I didn't like.

_S0LID_SNAKE_

How can you doubt this? IGN played the game :|

They played the beginning portions of the game... doesn't mean the entire game is like this.

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So what, you have to take a certain path in order to complete the game....big deal. Most games are like this, lol. Nobody ever expected Uncharted to be GTA in the jungle anyway. I bet you that there will be plenty of areas to explore inside of caves, temples, ect. And the game itself will probably have loads of action and fun as hell platforming all the way through.

I am not going to lose interest in this killer looking title just because it is not going to be a sandbox game, lol. Also, I could care less what IGN thinks about the opening sequence of the game, as it is not going to be an indicator of what the meat of the game will offer. Besides, every other review that I have read about this game has been nothing but GLARINGLY positive.

Uncharted is going to rock, as I do not think that Naughty Dog is going to screw up such a promising title. They are just too smart to hobble a game like this. Come on guys....think about it. Don't nitpick and jump to conclusions over one little early glimpse of the opening sequences of an UNFINISHED game, that has for the most part had nothing but extremely positive press.

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its not that part that worries me. i like linear games the part that worries me is they said that drake does stuff they dont want him to or something. i dont feel like copy and pasting the quote go read the preview and u'll know what im talking bout,
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#44 munu9
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Seriously guys, you've seen only like 5% of the game in it's early stage. You shouldn't be jumping to such conlusions. I would relate uncharted style gameplay to more of gears of war than tomb raider. Just because it takes place in the same type of environment doesn't mean its the same freaking game...
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#45 Bdking57
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A one player linear game with good story only = 1 play though then never play again.

Games with stories >> anything else.

That is, if the story is good.

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You know it's bad when you're wondering how well a game will hold up against Tomb Raider.
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#47 OXIIIIXO
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Gears is linear and some people call it the best shooter ever.

Linear =/= bad

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#48 Dahaka-UK
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Gears of War is linear.. Seriously if this game flops on any review site because it's linear.. then I'm never takin reviews seriously ever..
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#49 blackace
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So you just go on a linear jungle path the whole game?_S0LID_SNAKE_

Starting to sound like Crash Bandicoot HD. I'm hoping this isn't the case. I wanted to do some serious exploring in 3D like Tomb Raider. This game better not be linear.

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#50 JiveT
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I don't think this game is going to be very good.