Undertale (8bit, RPG PC Exclusive) has a 97 metascore

Just stating the truth. Don't be so serious now.

Same old lemming card by a Sony Zealot who doesn't even own a PS4. Epic Fail.

@-God- said:

@so_hai said:

@locopatho said:

The 8 bit graphics automatically give it +20 metascore from hipsters though...

Every game has its 'automatic' over-raters. Why pick on this one?

@locopatho said:

@so_hai: Disagree.

You are not posting the link properly. Here is the link in HD.

http://static1.gamespot.com/uploads/original/1503/15036700/2936590-1671575075-29341.png

Yeah but PS4 usually can't do real HD^

Wow 1 whole point higher than Uncharted 2 and 2 whole points more than The Last of Us. Which after a month or two assuming this niche game gets any reviews from big sites it will probably be pushed down to the mid 80 range.

That said, I might get the game later. I did put on my Steam wishlist so I don't forget about it since it looks interesting.

PC gets much more of the good stuff but a shit ton more of the bad stuff as well. Even then, between the three consoles, there are more 90+ metacritic exclusive games on them than the PC has. And don't say it's not fair to compare 3 consoles against PC, because PC has many many times the developers making games for it.

Last time I checked, Bayonetta 2 (91 MC), Bloodborne (92 MC), Super Smash Bros (92 MC), Super Mario 3D World (93 MC) > Pillars Of Eternaty (90 MC). If we want to talk 70-90 MC exclusives, yeah the PC slays all. But when it comes to the cream of the crop, the consoles are better. Fact. But I respect you God.

1. PC has more than all 3 consoles combined when you count AAA+AA, (90%'s and 80%'s). We count both here as well. You can't just pretend AA/80% games suck. They are labeled "great" and always been a vital part of SW and gaming in general. Many of those games would be in the 90%'s if PC had dozens of 10/10 dedicated fanboy review publications like the consoles do.

2. ROFL 3 vs 1. Winning.

3. Fortunately, you can choose to play the good stuff rather than the bad stuff.

4. You forgot Undertale and Dota2.

I guess the story and choice stuff is good, but I played through the tutorial dungeon and was super turned off by how woefully outdated the art, sound, and gameplay are. It really serves no purpose to have 8 bit graphics and awful voice sounds, I play old games for nostalgia's sake, not because those are enjoyable aesthetics. Haven't touched Undertale in days. Maybe I'll pick it back up later but as far as I'm concerned the game better start fellating me to warrant it's reception.

Picked up Undertale earlier today and have been enjoying it so far. It has started to grow on me.

@kaealy said:

@-God- said:

@Gue1 said:

it's only 10 reviews dude.... Let's talk again when the game receives at least 70 scores from 70 different sources and is still able to maintain a 90+ metascore like Naughty God's games.

Are you implying that magazines that has a brand name in their title is bias and has an agenda to score exklusives high? That can't be true, I never.

Sony controlling their Meta Critic scores.

Anyway why wouldn't this 8 bit stylized game use 32 bit era art??

Guess that would have taken too long.

If this doesn't go down in score, it's going to be the new Out of The Park Baseball lol

1. For one, PC exclusives rarely get more than 20 to 30 reviews on MC. Also, the majority of those games are free to play or indies lol. Some indies are amazing, but the really good ones normally come to console in the end anyway. See Shovel Knight, Minecraft, blah blah. Once you discount Valve and Blizzard and free to play stuff, you're left with indies that come to console.

2. Nope, just saying each one of those games on their own > Pillars on MC.

3. Cool, if you can find the good stuff on Steam. 95% of what gets thrown in your face on Steam is some shitty side project a college student threw up. You have to wade through most of the bad to get a bit of good.

4. Dota 2 is a gen 7 game. And Undertale might be amazing for all I know, but nothing is stopping it from coming to console. And the likelyhood is way higher than console exclusives coming to PC (that aren't Xbox).

And whatever, maybe I'm downplaying F2P too much. I like TF2 and a few others, but when you want the fleshed out full on arcade gaming experiences that pioneered the medium, console exclusives deliver on that much more effectively. But it's a case of what you prefer in the end.

"Please buy our games"

-PCucks 2015

Lol. PC is a fucking joke isn't it.

@cinematicgalore: Uh...this 8-bit indie is higher than a lot of fantastic games across Nintendo, Xbox, PC, and PlayStation because this indie game has only got 11 reviews. This game is not comparable to games that have 50-100 reviews.

By this broken logic, it may be the best PC game of all time. Wow what a feat.

SW is funny, people don't even understand metacritic anymore.

I found this game under related games on the LISA page and added it to my wishlist. The combat and atmosphere seem pretty interesting and unique and I'm a sucker for a new spin on JRPGs.

At 10 bucks I might give it a shot. It's been nothing but massive AAA games for me these past few months, I could do with something scaled back for now.

2 things

1: Arcadey type games weren't the only type of games, nor are they some golden thing anyone who values gameplay necessarily needs to be gassing up. There are plenty more simulation based, and then there are rpgs, and all that jazz. Even the cinematic styled games or story driven games of the 90s were great interactive experiences, and they didn't need the gameplay to be arcadey.

2: WHAT FUCKING ARCADEY EXCLUSIVES are we even talking about? The ones on the WiiU?

What the **** did the PS4 get Bloodborne and dog shit?
Xbox One ...nothing.

Oh you know, stuff consoles generally get compared to the PC centric games PC gets. Yeah the ones on the WiiU.

Look all I'm saying is, name a good PC exclusive title this generation that isn't indie. For the thousands of developers working on PC games, the ratio is fucking abysmal. It's shit.

1. For one, PC exclusives rarely get 20+ dedicated PC fanboy magazines handing 10/10 for review inflation. No padding here. It's a miracle PC dominates at MC. And how about GS? PC has the most aaa/aa Exclusives games every gen, by an exponential margin, and your opinions do not change this. F2P are fine, lets not get into opinions...or I'll have a field day on Movie Games and yearly sports rehashes.

2. Those systems are still a distant second place at MC and GS this gen.

3. It's not hard to find the good stuff on Steam. Either use STEAM, or GS/MC. Do you get off on lying? It's quite easy to wade through it now. You're grasping for straws with this arguement.

4. Dota2 can be considered a gen8 game, that is where it got most of its content and updates. It barely released off the fictional PC gen8 date and thrived from then on. I'll always classify it as Gen8.

5. PC also has plenty AAA budget genres, ending with the most AAA/AA games each gen.

Your opinions are noted, but please do not make excuses for the distant 2nd place status.

This reply seems relevant,

In comparison to what?

The average System Wars poster when talking about reviews.

Those systems that get 1 or 2 good exclusives every 3 years.

You won't find any faction bashing PC for having "droughts" like they do to each other quite frequently.

Don't forget, those systems also tend to get the inferior versions of practically every multiplat game, as well.

Who cares? If your issue is "there is too much bad stuff on steam" that's on you and your inability to do some leg work.

Otherwise what exclusives? The WiiU is the only one getting the super gamey stuff

Halo? A genre that not only plays better on PC, but specifically Halo is a dumbed down version of what that Platform used to get (and is beginning to get back)

Fable? Same scenario as Halo, and way worse, because Halo is at least a good series

Forza? Racing sim

Uncharted? A third person shooter that is way too busy being cinematic.

All of which happen to be a style of game you get on PC still. The PS2's good to bad game ratio would be pretty fucking abysmal, no one gives a shit, because that's the nature of the beast. Good things are usually outnumbered by the amount of bad products out there. Last I checked, the PS2? Damn good system. Why a bunch of indie games get dismissed, for the better part of the last 5 years now they've been offering some of the deepest, rewarding, content rich, and gameplay driven experiences vs the parade of boring banal bitchwork that you get in modern triple A games, especially if they are open world is beyond me. But sure lets qualify it with the PC is reliant on an indie scene, or a middle tier project like Soma or strat games like Europa. Big fucking whoop?

They are still games, and they are very well made. And I would sooner play an Antichmaber, an Infinifactory, or a Swapper (the latter which did show up on a console), over an admittedly polished, but ultimately dull and underwhelming experience like Captain Toad. Is the PC going to get a triple A beast anytime soon? Eh other than the Starcraft 2 expansion probably not. It doesn't need to though, the sheer variety of genres covered and how many of them are quality and enjoyable more than covers the PC.

The amount of mediocrity that is celebrated as something special, just because it is exclusive to a console is to me far more offensive. Between the 3 consoles, the WiiU is the only one batting anything special exclusive wise in Bayonetta 2, and at least The Wonderful 101 and Splatoon for being fresh. Maybe we get lenient and bump 3D World and Smash for being a style of game that isn't prominent on PC yet, but the rest of the console exclusive lineup. Barely worthy of someones spit, much less their money. The PS4's best game is the 3rd best Souls game. That's how low the bar is for these machines, they can't hop that bar though. They are trying to play limbo, when I'm asking them to hurdle.

^New Fable is also on PC I think.

Xbone and PS4 have insane exclusive droughts, and that guy has no right talking.

These consoles are perhaps the worst i've ever seen. Still, their exclusives are better than PC's. I'd rather play 3D World than anything that's ever been exclusive to PC but then you're talking to a close minded console gamer. So bringing up these drop down menu point and click games for PC. They don't move me at all. While stuff like Uncharted or Halo is a much more entertaining time.

Indies are wonderful. But the best ones come to console nowadays in a lot of cases. If you want more middle of the road indies than you know what to do with? get a PC. Problem is though with all those devs making games for the thing you'd expect at least more than 3 or 4 really good ones. And in the end I said the consoles best exclusives are better than the likes of Pillars Of Eternity and... eh what else again?... it's true :(

The quality of the games can be argued all day but lets face it, the super gamey games are the best games. You know this to be true.

But people do cut way too much slack for games being exclusive, especially first party.

Super gamey games?

I do have a soft spot for good indies, Castle Crashers, Ori and the Blind Forest, Binding of Isaac. All awesome.

Sounds like your favourite games exist on console, that's cool. Don't discount PC because that's what you enjoy though.

How did this cheap, Earthbound/JRPG-style, indie RPG Maker game, overtake Half-Life 2 as the highest-Metacritic-rated PC game of all time?

I'm thinking I'll have to just give it a go and find out aye.

It's honestly the most charming game ever. If you like feeling good, play this game. It also has one of the most creative combat systems I've ever had the pleasure of playing. Seriously, just play this game. Only 10 bucks.

I LOVE FEELING GOOD :D

And I'm saying WHAT exclusives? There is a whopping one between the Xbox One and PS4 that's worth mentioning. The WiiU is carrying the team.

I'll take my chances with the platformers in the indie front these days than what I've been seeing from Nintendo, much less settling for what the PS4 and Xbox One will get in that department. That platform gets more than 3 or 4 good games. Those consoles...this year between the 3 of them they have

-Bloodborne

-Mario Maker

-Splatoon

The end, thanks for playing, greatness still waiting in the wings. 3 platforms, 3 dedicated first parties to moving these machines, and 3 games worth actually playing. By the end of this year maybe 5 if Fatal Frame and Halo don't blow. Not exactly a murder's row here. You like the consoles more? fine, you don't like the games? Hell half these frauds like shitty things like gross ass loot rpgs. But the only thing these console exclusives have been selling on lately is "But its pretty" and "remember when this franchise had entries that used to be great?".

Your argument had merit when it was like the snes vs the PC or the PS2 vs the PC. But the PS4/XboxOne/WiiU is like a collective effort of who wants to suck more. It's an all star performance from Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft to be this shitty finishing up years 2 and year 3 respectively for their machines with a whole lot of nothing.

@rskueem: Yeah, i think im already being sold on it. Ive been hearing nothing but good things. When i looked at it, i was turned off, but im gonna give it a try.