Unfinished pc games now being sold boxed

@CrownKingArthur said:

@R4gn4r0k: i love talking about oldschool things. set prompt = $p$g

yeah absolutely man the game will get bigger by the time it's done.

but that's exactly why this boxed version doesn't make sense to me now, at the present moment.

i mean, what's the deal? the disc is totally static, once it's made - it's made. so, in 5 years time someone with that disc is only installing 1 gig of content, and it's possible some percentage of that might need redownloading anyway because it gets patched.

plus like, what is the point of discs with pc gaming? well in utilitarian terms the advantage is avoidance of downloading (might be slow, might have a bandwidth cap, etc). but then the download is only about a gig anyway. so you know, i fail to see how this is really helpful.

so, i just don't see how this is really sensible. i guess for some people even downloading one gig is a pain, but even so, why would they buy this? once the retail game is released if they reinstalled from the disc - i predict they'd have a lot of downloading to do in order to bring the installed content from the disc up to the release standard.

just my thoughts on the matter.

I just like how far we've come in such a short time. From floppy discs that could store 1.44 MB to, theoretically, a disc that can store a Terabyte... Insane

Hmmm, well there are a few reasons to buy a disc in favor of online. Like you mentioned, a bandwith cap. I used to have one (still do but it's way more lenient) so I used to buy huge games on disc because there was no way of me being able to download say a Total War game.

But again, like you said, that makes no sense for this game as it will get larger so people that don't want to download, will have to download.

Another reason could be payment methods to pay online. Not everyone has access to those; a bankaccount, paypal or credit cards. So for those, mostly younger, people this is another way to get the game :)

At least they are being honest... X:Rebirth wasn't being honest they sold that as the full game even though it was not even close to being playable.

@R4gn4r0k: "But again, like you said, that makes no sense for this game as it will get larger so people that don't want to download, will have to download."

haha yeah man, it's kinda ironic and amusing for me.

"Another reason could be payment methods to pay online. Not everyone has access to those; a bankaccount, paypal or credit cards. So for those, mostly younger, people this is another way to get the game :)"

excellent point, making it accessible. oh oh oh i thought of another!

maybe they want the game sitting on store shelves next to other games for marketing purposes.

It's just an experiment. If people see no value in it, it won't stick. It gives people more options and screws over people who don't know how to read - so I'm all for it. It's not free, or particularly cheap, to distribute a game via retail as opposed to digitally - so it won't stick around if people don't like it.

Yeah, that's another good reason. It has been a while now but I sometimes just walk around in Media Markt browsing the games they have there, and if I see an interesting game there for a good price I might pick it up.

That's something I don't do often on steam. Browsing for a good game there is like looking for a needle in a haystack, or at least that is what it has become now. When I buy something on steam I already know exactly what I'm looking for.

Here is another reason: sometimes buying in a brick and mortar store can be cheaper than buying online. Though not when compared to the latest steam sale price of PA I reckon. But I think the current steam price vs what the price is in stores, yeah there is incentive for the consumer to look around and find the best price.

@KHAndAnime: @edwardecl:

True, it's not like they hide the early access or anything (which takes away somewhat of the beauty of the boxart unfortunately :( )

If the market doesn't want this, they can simply reject it.

They say PC games are cheap but then the Hermit's gotta empty their pockets to make sure their games reach their kickstarter goal LOL!

@R4gn4r0k: Yes that's what I meant. I mean these games don't have to be completed even."mostly goes for the lesser known devs". I'm also aware h1z1 will be free but I can tell it will be a quality title and I'm glad to buy in early.

from that list demon soul is only interesting game (not OMG AMAZING) in list but we have dark souls too. rest are mediocre or movie based game.

console cant run [insert PC exclusives]...

AAA-AA isn't quality?

PC fortunately has both. More aaa/aa at both GS and MC every gen so far. Dat first place.

Explain how what I wrote didn't refute what he said....was I supposed to post a meme picture?

Scottpsfan14 and Jankarcop trim your quote chains.

I think it would be great if they sold us games in pre pre alpha for $59.99 and then when the game is finally finished (2y later) we have an opportunity to unlock the final version for an additional 29.99. Hopefully someone from EA reads my message and takes it into consideration.

how exactly does this improve anything?

He's saying PC sucks with no factual data in every post. I refute him w/ factual data.

Simple debating 101.

Seems like a good idea. There already are selling empty preorder boxes, at least here you get something to play.

Yeah, it's looking pretty promising right now in pre-alpha.

I'm sure they'll improve the game a lot, and I might check it out. But I'm not ready to jump into an unfinished survival game yet.

Game was 90 euro when it was in pre-alpha. On the last sale I saw it for 16 euro (in beta?)

People know exactly what they are buying into.

Buh..buh...preorder bonuses! Where's my day 1 DLC? >:[

My five year old laptop can run GoW and Ratchet and Clank. Just saying. And for the rest of the movies any even my cell phone can play youtube. Only exceptions are Demons Souls and BloodBorne but then I have probably 10 of thousands of games to even care about them.

This new trend is something I don't understand. They want you to pay full price for an early access game, in which they benefit from you're money which is helping them make the game and you testing it for free. I here some of the bugs these games have is game breaking in these games.

Surely it should work out that early access games are cheaper.

Usually they are cheaper. The only ones more expensive are those that were funded by Kickstarter where they set up high tiers with alpha access. It just wouldn't be fair any other way to have people pay a lot less for alpha or beta access when people on KS, who actually made the game happen, paid a lot more.

No

Personal opinion determines whats quality. No the opinion of some douche who's payed to wright reviews based off of hype.

Personal opinion does not determine what is quality. Perfect example is Skyrim at release. That game was broken on release. Glitch/bug filled games are not quality. This is where modern reviews often lose sight of a big part of critiquing a game. The engine aspects of the game should be brought fourth to the player.

Personal opinion determines whats quality.

Nintendo games

My friends.Divinity: Original Sin has given us hope. That not all kickstarters are marketing scams. It seems the pc has the RPG year,while console gaming will be stuck with micro-transaction casual games. Let the lesson be learned, never judge an ox by it's strength.

I have no problem with this if the product is clearly stated as such.. If this is what it takes to bring back dead franchises and genres that died out years back, I am all for it.. Instead of the constant spew of diarrhea shooters and action games that seem to never end..

Can't believe PC noobs fall for this carp.

at least they're clear about it, better than the games that release and need patching for weeks and months after release

Jeez, talk about low standards here.

Maybe not, but asking people to pay a lot to play an early build of your game doesn't make a whole lot of sense. I just wouldn't pay that.

It makes sense in a way that it guarantees you only get truly dedicated fans inside, which helps with the testing. Aside from that it's just a way to let people who missed Kickstarter in.

If other people don't want to pay then it's no problem. They can wait for final release.

Ah, I see your point. I see some interesting games on Steam with early access written there and they're around £12. Just seems a bit much. My perspective is, if I'm helping during the testing phase, a few pounds off seems like a fair deal.

If PC has so many more great games than consoles why can't they ever win "Game of the Year"?

Why get GOTY when you can get game of the decade. ;)

Anyways, go back to believing GOTY equates to a must have game.