[Update] Sony Issues Statement About The PS4's 5GB of RAM Available

[QUOTE="JamDev"]

[QUOTE="happyduds77"] Source?LordOfPoms

Thuway on GAF: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=73213046&postcount=1835

Backed up by quite a few other "insiders" that have proven to have accurate information in the past.

They have also been known to be wrong and ultimately it's anonymous dudes on a forum, but they have been reliable in the past, take it for what it's worth.

People will either choose to belive Leadbetter's sources or GAF insiders depending on which console they want to "win". I suspect this will rumble on until Sony come out and make a definitive statement, most likely at Gamescom.

[QUOTE="LordOfPoms"][QUOTE="JamDev"]

 

Thuway on GAF: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=73213046&postcount=1835

Backed up by quite a few other "insiders" that have proven to have accurate information in the past.

They have also been known to be wrong and ultimately it's anonymous dudes on a forum, but they have been reliable in the past, take it for what it's worth.

People will either choose to belive Leadbetter's sources or GAF insiders depending on which console they want to "win". I suspect this will rumble on until Sony come out and make a definitive statement, most likely at Gamescom.

JamDev

[QUOTE="LordOfPoms"][QUOTE="JamDev"]

 

Thuway on GAF: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=73213046&postcount=1835

Backed up by quite a few other "insiders" that have proven to have accurate information in the past.

They have also been known to be wrong and ultimately it's anonymous dudes on a forum, but they have been reliable in the past, take it for what it's worth.

People will either choose to belive Leadbetter's sources or GAF insiders depending on which console they want to "win". I suspect this will rumble on until Sony come out and make a definitive statement, most likely at Gamescom.

JamDev

Sony is gonna murder microsoft at gamescom and announce 6gb of ram for games. What will Lems do then? Complain that its not 8gb for games? Lol. System wars is funny. Carbon_Le

4gb and 5gb on both systems is an excessive amount to begin withLordOfPoms

[QUOTE="Carbon_Le"]Sony is gonna murder microsoft at gamescom and announce 6gb of ram for games. What will Lems do then? Complain that its not 8gb for games? Lol. System wars is funny. legalize82

[QUOTE="legalize82"][QUOTE="Carbon_Le"]Sony is gonna murder microsoft at gamescom and announce 6gb of ram for games. What will Lems do then? Complain that its not 8gb for games? Lol. System wars is funny. clyde46

There's actually some murmurs going around on gaf that 6gb might be a legit number.

[QUOTE="legalize82"][QUOTE="Carbon_Le"]Sony is gonna murder microsoft at gamescom and announce 6gb of ram for games. What will Lems do then? Complain that its not 8gb for games? Lol. System wars is funny. clyde46

[QUOTE="happyduds77"][QUOTE="JamDev"]Latest leaks/rumours are now 6GB available to devs with some unspecified portion of that being this "flexible" RAM. The whole thing is so overblown in any case, bigger number dick waving at it's worst.JamDev

Thuway on GAF: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=73213046&postcount=1835

Backed up by quite a few other "insiders" that have proven to have accurate information in the past.

They have also been known to be wrong and ultimately it's anonymous dudes on a forum, but they have been reliable in the past, take it for what it's worth.

People will either choose to belive Leadbetter's sources or GAF insiders depending on which console they want to "win". I suspect this will rumble on until Sony come out and make a definitive statement, most likely at Gamescom.

BWHAHAHAHHAHAAH 7GB FOR GAMING EXPOSED EXPOSED BWHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

TCHBO!!! 

Far_RockNYC

[QUOTE="JamDev"]

[QUOTE="happyduds77"] Source?happyduds77

Thuway on GAF: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=73213046&postcount=1835

Backed up by quite a few other "insiders" that have proven to have accurate information in the past.

They have also been known to be wrong and ultimately it's anonymous dudes on a forum, but they have been reliable in the past, take it for what it's worth.

People will either choose to belive Leadbetter's sources or GAF insiders depending on which console they want to "win". I suspect this will rumble on until Sony come out and make a definitive statement, most likely at Gamescom.

[QUOTE="JamDev"]

[QUOTE="happyduds77"] Source?happyduds77

Thuway on GAF: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=73213046&postcount=1835

Backed up by quite a few other "insiders" that have proven to have accurate information in the past.

They have also been known to be wrong and ultimately it's anonymous dudes on a forum, but they have been reliable in the past, take it for what it's worth.

People will either choose to belive Leadbetter's sources or GAF insiders depending on which console they want to "win". I suspect this will rumble on until Sony come out and make a definitive statement, most likely at Gamescom.

poor thuway he is trying to hard to convince everyone that is not 5 gigs reserved for the OS :lol:Tessellation

[QUOTE="Tessellation"]poor thuway he is trying to hard to convince everyone that is not 5 gigs reserved for the OS :lol:legalize82

poor thuway he is trying to hard to convince everyone that is not 5 gigs reserved for the OS :lol:Tessellation

Ouch.

Cows are gonna have a difficulty in sleeping tonight.

People may complain and whine over this stuff, but this is still 5-6 times the amount of RAM the current consoles are using.

Thats a pretty unbelievable increase.

[QUOTE="Tessellation"]poor thuway he is trying to hard to convince everyone that is not 5 gigs reserved for the OS :lol:Mr-Kutaragi

[QUOTE="Tessellation"]poor thuway he is trying to hard to convince everyone that is not 5 gigs reserved for the OS :lol:legalize82

[QUOTE="legalize82"][QUOTE="Tessellation"]poor thuway he is trying to hard to convince everyone that is not 5 gigs reserved for the OS :lol:clyde46

Sony is gonna murder microsoft at gamescom and announce 6gb of ram for games. What will Lems do then? Complain that its not 8gb for games? Lol. System wars is funny. Carbon_Le

Lems never hyped ram to begin with.  Its only you mad cows.   The fact that cows made such a big deal about the xbone's OS footprint yet the OS for the PS4 is just as big if not bigger is why they are owned by this news.  Keep thinking 6GB will be available for games if you want to continue to sniff your pixie dust. It will be 4.5or 5GB.  That "flexible" block of RAM will be used for when Sony updates the OS to add TV control features.  We all know this is going to happen.  The writing is on the wall. 

[QUOTE="Carbon_Le"]Sony is gonna murder microsoft at gamescom and announce 6gb of ram for games. What will Lems do then? Complain that its not 8gb for games? Lol. System wars is funny. NFJSupreme

Lems never hyped ram to begin with.  Its only you mad cows.   The fact that cows made such a big deal about the xbone's OS footprint yet the OS for the PS4 is just as big if not bigger is why they are owned by this news.  Keep thinking 6GB will be available for games if you want to continue to sniff your pixie dust. It will be 4.5or 5GB.  That "flexible" block of RAM will be used for when Sony updates the OS to add TV control features.  We all know this is going to happen.  The writing is on the wall. 

[QUOTE="Carbon_Le"]Sony is gonna murder microsoft at gamescom and announce 6gb of ram for games. What will Lems do then? Complain that its not 8gb for games? Lol. System wars is funny. NFJSupreme

Lems never hyped ram to begin with.  Its only you mad cows.   The fact that cows made such a big deal about the xbone's OS footprint yet the OS for the PS4 is just as big if not bigger is why they are owned by this news.  Keep thinking 6GB will be available for games if you want to continue to sniff your pixie dust. It will be 4.5or 5GB.  That "flexible" block of RAM will be used for when Sony updates the OS to add TV control features.  We all know this is going to happen.  The writing is on the wall. 

"A new source familiar with the matter has provided additional information to Digital Foundry that confirms only 4.5GB of the PS4's 8GB GDDR5 memory pool is guaranteed to game developers right now, while also clarifying how the PS4's "flexible memory" works in practice."

"In real terms, an additional 512MB of physical RAM may be available in addition to the 4.5GB mentioned in the SDK. Flexible memory consists of physical and virtual spaces, and the latter introduces paging issues which impact performance. In our original story we combined them together.

For practical game applications, the correct figures for this story, as we understand it now, are a guaranteed 4.5GB for development and a further 512MB from the flexible pool."

"We understand that this is a 1GB virtual address space, split into two areas - 512MB of on-chip RAM is used (the physical area) and another 512MB is "paged", perhaps like a Windows swap file. But to be clear, of the 8GB of GDDR5 on PS4, our contention is that 5GB of it is available to developers."

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-ps3-system-software-memory

So PS4 and XB1 both have the same amount of RAM (5GB) available strictly for games. Interesting.

UPDATE : Sony has issued a statement:

We would like to clear up a misunderstanding regarding our "direct" and "flexible" memory systems. The article states that "flexible" memory is borrowed from the OS, and must be returned when requested - that's not actually the case.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-ps3-system-software-memory

kenmid

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="legalize82"] and neogaf is convinced neogaf>>>>>> youhoosier7

No, but it's not like the fanboys on neogaf are any better.

[QUOTE="Carbon_Le"]Sony is gonna murder microsoft at gamescom and announce 6gb of ram for games. What will Lems do then? Complain that its not 8gb for games? Lol. System wars is funny. NFJSupreme

Lems never hyped ram to begin with.  Its only you mad cows.   The fact that cows made such a big deal about the xbone's OS footprint yet the OS for the PS4 is just as big if not bigger is why they are owned by this news.  Keep thinking 6GB will be available for games if you want to continue to sniff your pixie dust. It will be 4.5or 5GB.  That "flexible" block of RAM will be used for when Sony updates the OS to add TV control features.  We all know this is going to happen.  The writing is on the wall. 

Sony is gonna murder microsoft at gamescom and announce 6gb of ram for games. What will Lems do then? Complain that its not 8gb for games? Lol. System wars is funny. Carbon_Le

First you cows get out of control with 8GB thinking it would all be used for games (moronic at best), then you completely blow up 7GB for games (idiotic at best), and now that sources are reporting that it's around 5GB...you cows are still in denial and completely trying to recreate some fake reality about how it is going to be 6GB (stupidly delusional at best).  Ya, you guys need to really learn when it's time to just accept the truth for what it is.

[QUOTE="Carbon_Le"]Sony is gonna murder microsoft at gamescom and announce 6gb of ram for games. What will Lems do then? Complain that its not 8gb for games? Lol. System wars is funny. Rage010101

First you cows get out of control with 8GB thinking it would all be used for games (moronic at best), then you completely blow up 7GB for games (idiotic at best), and now that sources are reporting that it's around 5GB...you cows are still in denial and completely trying to recreate some fake reality about how it is going to be 6GB (stupidly delusional at best).  Ya, you guys need to really learn when it's time to just accept the truth for what it is.

[QUOTE="Rage010101"]

[QUOTE="Carbon_Le"]Sony is gonna murder microsoft at gamescom and announce 6gb of ram for games. What will Lems do then? Complain that its not 8gb for games? Lol. System wars is funny. legalize82

First you cows get out of control with 8GB thinking it would all be used for games (moronic at best), then you completely blow up 7GB for games (idiotic at best), and now that sources are reporting that it's around 5GB...you cows are still in denial and completely trying to recreate some fake reality about how it is going to be 6GB (stupidly delusional at best).  Ya, you guys need to really learn when it's time to just accept the truth for what it is.

If it helps you dream at night junior

[QUOTE="Carbon_Le"]Sony is gonna murder microsoft at gamescom and announce 6gb of ram for games. What will Lems do then? Complain that its not 8gb for games? Lol. System wars is funny. Rage010101

First you cows get out of control with 8GB thinking it would all be used for games (moronic at best), then you completely blow up 7GB for games (idiotic at best), and now that sources are reporting that it's around 5GB...you cows are still in denial and completely trying to recreate some fake reality about how it is going to be 6GB (stupidly delusional at best).  Ya, you guys need to really learn when it's time to just accept the truth for what it is.

Both Sony and MS will be able to shrink the OS footprint a little bit, but they will also be wanting to add new features over time so they need a good chunk of memory to work with from the beginning. Speculating that it's suddenly going to be 6GB available for games is just wishful thinking on the part of cows. They simply desperately want the number to be higher than it is on XB1 so that they can rub it in lemmings faces. 

[QUOTE="NFJSupreme"]

[QUOTE="Carbon_Le"]Sony is gonna murder microsoft at gamescom and announce 6gb of ram for games. What will Lems do then? Complain that its not 8gb for games? Lol. System wars is funny. legalize82

Lems never hyped ram to begin with.  Its only you mad cows.   The fact that cows made such a big deal about the xbone's OS footprint yet the OS for the PS4 is just as big if not bigger is why they are owned by this news.  Keep thinking 6GB will be available for games if you want to continue to sniff your pixie dust. It will be 4.5or 5GB.  That "flexible" block of RAM will be used for when Sony updates the OS to add TV control features.  We all know this is going to happen.  The writing is on the wall. 

[QUOTE="legalize82"][QUOTE="Rage010101"]

First you cows get out of control with 8GB thinking it would all be used for games (moronic at best), then you completely blow up 7GB for games (idiotic at best), and now that sources are reporting that it's around 5GB...you cows are still in denial and completely trying to recreate some fake reality about how it is going to be 6GB (stupidly delusional at best).  Ya, you guys need to really learn when it's time to just accept the truth for what it is.

Rage010101

If it helps you dream at night junior

[QUOTE="legalize82"][QUOTE="NFJSupreme"]

 

Lems never hyped ram to begin with.  Its only you mad cows.   The fact that cows made such a big deal about the xbone's OS footprint yet the OS for the PS4 is just as big if not bigger is why they are owned by this news.  Keep thinking 6GB will be available for games if you want to continue to sniff your pixie dust. It will be 4.5or 5GB.  That "flexible" block of RAM will be used for when Sony updates the OS to add TV control features.  We all know this is going to happen.  The writing is on the wall. 

blackace

[QUOTE="Rage010101"]

[QUOTE="legalize82"] there is no truth in DF 6gb confirmed by neogaf 3 insiders and... http://retrocityrampage.com/blog/2013/07/522/legalize82

If it helps you dream at night junior

Don't be mad that you didn't even read your own link :lol:

Look at all the gafs thinking it's 6gb because two people guessed that number! :lol: If the PS4 OS is only 2gb. :lol:

Look at all the gafs thinking it's 6gb because two people guessed that number! :lol: If the PS4 OS is only 2gb. :lol:

xhawk27

[QUOTE="legalize82"][QUOTE="Rage010101"]

If it helps you dream at night junior

Rage010101

Don't be mad that you didn't even read your own link :lol:

"Insiders" and "Sources" on neogaf = Total bullshit.

[QUOTE="Rage010101"]

[QUOTE="legalize82"] dont be mad when your troll day failed not my faultlegalize82

Don't be mad that you didn't even read your own link :lol:

[QUOTE="xhawk27"]

Look at all the gafs thinking it's 6gb because two people guessed that number! :lol: If the PS4 OS is only 2gb. :lol:

legalize82

DF is right more times than wrong. If Sony only has 2gb for the OS and no reserved memory allocation for future growth. 

[QUOTE="legalize82"][QUOTE="Rage010101"]

If it helps you dream at night junior

Rage010101

Don't be mad that you didn't even read your own link :lol:

Read the bit that's both underlined and in bold in the link: 

"The rumor stated that the PS4 reserved 3.5GB, while the Xbox reserved 3.0GB. Think about how this headline then spins the story. Even had it been true, this was a difference of 0.5GB"

He also bolds the phrase "at least" as much RAM as the Xbox in the first line. All suggests both the rumours are false and that the PS4 offers more RAM to developers than the Xbox One.

[QUOTE="Carbon_Le"]Sony is gonna murder microsoft at gamescom and announce 6gb of ram for games. What will Lems do then? Complain that its not 8gb for games? Lol. System wars is funny. Rage010101

[QUOTE="Rage010101"]

[QUOTE="Carbon_Le"]Sony is gonna murder microsoft at gamescom and announce 6gb of ram for games. What will Lems do then? Complain that its not 8gb for games? Lol. System wars is funny. Mr-Kutaragi

The OS in the PS3 sucks! :lol:   Did you make that. :D

[QUOTE="xhawk27"]

Look at all the gafs thinking it's 6gb because two people guessed that number! :lol: If the PS4 OS is only 2gb. :lol:

legalize82

Bullshit. 

[QUOTE="legalize82"][QUOTE="Rage010101"]

Don't be mad that you didn't even read your own link :lol:

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