UPDATED: Sony exclusives have sold more than you think

@KBFloYd: Ghosts and blops 2 released on Wii u, which was a failed console, switch is huge success. Big difference.

diagree,

playstation built its brand on 3rd party. nintendo built its brand on 1st party. The sales reflect that.

Definitely not.

PS1 had tons of first and third party exclusives. Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Final Fantasy, Metal Gear, Tekken, Tomb Raider, Gran Turismo, Syphon Filter, Resident Evil, Silent Hill...majority of the games in those franchises were not on Sega or Nintendo with some of them being only on Playstation the entire 90s.

I would imagine it's currently somewhere between 3 and 4 million sold today.

@KBFloYd: Yea, that's decades ago now. Has little bearing on today. Do you think Nintendo exclusives aren't primarily casual titles?

Right and all those game were from 3rd party and thats why they are all on xbox and nintendo (some) now too.

You could say they were "timed" exclusives for sony.

Even if you get official numbers for Bloodborne it will not sell as much as GOW did in its first month alone. Even the multiplat games of that type don't come close. I personally think it deserve to as well but 3mill seems like the max for the type of game it is. The good thing is those games are budgeted accordingly to be considered a success at those numbers. Its just not as accessible as GOW.

yes i think nintendo games are casual.

now what?

@KBFloYd: Just explaining why they're as popular as they are. Many people, me included, started with Nintendo games. So you have ease of access and nostalgia to go with the quality. This is Nintendo exclusives sales triforce. I also ask because you seem to have a negative opinion on casual titles which is wierd to me since you like Nintendo as much as you do.

the word casual for gamers is seen as a derogatory word. So i use it in that sense. I'm just saying ps4 is built on casuals just like nintendo.

@KBFloYd: Well we're in agreement there.

@KBFloYd: back then hardware was more differentiated. The RPG publishers all went to Sony over Nintendo because of the space on the CDs over cartridges.

Now that hardware is more similar, Rockstar/Square/Capcom/Namco put their franchises on other platforms.

Don’t forget street fighter and final fantasy were basically exclusive to Nintendo before the PS1 when they jumped to Sony.

really? so why do you think ps4 exclsuives dont sell?

i disagree on the reason they went to sony. i dont believe the cd/cartridge thing was the main reason. but thats for another conversation.

@KBFloYd: Square has said FF7 became a PS exclusive even when FF 1-6 were all on Nintendo platforms because Nintendo stuck with cartridges

@KBFloYd: I think they do sell. Do they sell as well as Nintendo? No. But they dont have the loyal nostalgic fanbase like Nintendo does. I don't say nostalgia as a negative either, because if the quality wasn't up to snuff the nostalgia wouldn't be there. I dont think Sony titles have the universal appeal that Nintendo has either. People that like Persona or Bloodborne won't necessarily enjoy something like Uncharted or GoW.

right some of the developers went to sony for that reason. but i mean street fighter 3rd strike couldnt run on the n64? megaman? castlevania? marvel vs capcom?

those games could have easily been on nintendo. i think sony did some dealings behind the scene imo

not ashamed to admit it

right but a console with 100million selling less than a console with 30million? you got to wonder what all those people are buying instead of spiderman and god of war eh?

the discrepency is quite big. which is why the "too many games" reason dont work for me.

@jcrame10: Yeah same here dude, there's always room for improvement.

@KBFloYd: Spiderman has been doing good tho, we dont know what GoW is at. Not All Nintendo exclusives sell gangbusters either. SMT, Metroid, Fire Emblem, Donkey Kong etc..

good for the install base? no

good compared to the other consoles with 30million(nintendo)/40million (xbox) ? yes

@KBFloYd: Gonna disagree with ya on that. 9 million in 4 months is good imo.

for 100million userbase?

sure...

@KBFloYd: Is it profitable? Thats all companies care about.

thats what they need. not what they hope for.

@KBFloYd: What? That doesn't make any sense. I feel like you consider stuff like Bayonetta, SMT, Donkey Kong etc... Failures because of attach rate. That's not how it works.

those games under performed. did they make a profit? maybe... but developers all hope to have phenomenon type game. to have the next pokemon go, GTA or wii sports or call of duty, halo, mario kart. thats the dream for developers,

@KBFloYd: mega man and castelvania had games on n64 though didn’t they?

@KBFloYd: lol donkey Kong is definitley not a failure....those games sell millions and are really popular and I bet they have a low budget- no 3D rendering, no voice acting, no motion capture

well mainline megaman wasnt. just a spin off

forgot about castlevania. yea it got a 3d game and ps1 got a 2D game.

street fighter was one of the biggest games around back then and to have it skip nintendo for no reason?

failure didnt come out of my mouth. it was fedor. i said underperformed. which they did.

@KBFloYd: Dreams are rarely reality.

right, they have to settle. 100million empty seats.

@KBFloYd: I don't think your math is correct. Regardless of your cocksure attitude on the matter, Sony exclusives are profitable and helping move consoles. Thats all that matters.

it actually does matter. in fanboy wars which is what we are having and what this forum is about.

@KBFloYd: This isn't fanboy wars, friend. I own and quite enjoy my switch as well. This is more akin to logic wars, and yours is failing.

PC, Xbox One, PS4

I thought you knew?

@watercrack445: That's right! Good job! Now how many platforms are the Sony games on?

By SW standards, and with the way cows talk these games up with scores, and exclusives being the reason they bought a PS4. I would say 50 million minimum.

lol for each exclusive!!?

Yeah man its the SW way, the more cows pump them up the more they need to sell to be considered successful, just the law of the land.

Cows should stop talking about these games all the time and start buying them, and indeed watching them, oh that's right YouTube still exists my bad lol.

System Wars is the only place on the internet where people don't understand that a console with way more quality third party games to choose from will have less attachment ratio for its exclusives. People buy PS4s to play big 3rd party games as well as Sony's games so Sony's games have more to compete against with. Sony also releases a large quantity of exclusives so their sales are pretty spread apart. In contrast, hardly anyone buys a Switch to play third party games and Nintendo's 1st party release output isn't as much as Sony's so naturally their games will have a higher attachment ratio. Only looking at Sony's high hardware sales and expecting their exclusives attachment ratio to be the same as Nintendo's is stupid and defies logic.

@KBFloYd: megaman 64 was a port of megman legends for ps1 which was a great game

@watercrack445: These are old numbers, some from 2014. They have sold more than that.

Lol, Sony doesn't care about Nintendo, it's irrelevant.

PSN is bigger than Nintendo alone. LMFAO!

right and they dont want to look stupid and lose the advantage.

I guess even back then Nintendo was late to the third party....getting ports of games 3 years later.

Great games sale so it is no surprise what Sony has done this generation. They have released some excellent single player games this generation.

Classic damage control quacknight.