They almost cost the same. What would you chose and why?
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It comes down to what games you want to play, I'd personally go with PC because it has it has alot more gaming options like rts and mmorpgs. But don't buy either one because someone told you to, buy one based on what your going to do with it.
what are your current specs. Because if you already have a good processor and at least 2gb of ram spending 400 to upgrade your pc for games is to much. A more than capable vga along with a 500-600W psu should not cost you more than 250-300They almost cost the same. What would you chose and why?
DonMarkito
They almost cost the same. What would you chose and why?
what are your current specs. Because if you already have a good processor and at least 2gb of ram spending 400 to upgrade your pc for games is to much. A more than capable vga along with a 500-600W psu should not cost you more than 250-300 Im not a expert on PC things... so could you please tell me where can I go check my current specs?If your going to build a new gaming PC... Make sure you get a I7 Intel, Tri channel RAM and at the least a GTX 280. Should only cost you $1,200-$1,300 all said and done.
But you will have a beast PC. Last you a long time.
Wish I would have waited. Stuck with a C2D and a GTX 280 :P Still can play anything out there max settings with the exception of the first Crysis.
P.S.
Never buy PC parts that are good enough for now. Always buy for the future. A $400-500 system isn't future proof.
[QUOTE="adamosmaki"][QUOTE="DonMarkito"]what are your current specs. Because if you already have a good processor and at least 2gb of ram spending 400 to upgrade your pc for games is to much. A more than capable vga along with a 500-600W psu should not cost you more than 250-300 Im not a expert on PC things... so could you please tell me where can I go check my current specs?http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/referrer/srtest,Choose Crysis as it requires the most parts things,stuff,IDKThey almost cost the same. What would you chose and why?
DonMarkito
They almost cost the same. What would you chose and why?
what are your current specs. Because if you already have a good processor and at least 2gb of ram spending 400 to upgrade your pc for games is to much. A more than capable vga along with a 500-600W psu should not cost you more than 250-300 Im not a expert on PC things... so could you please tell me where can I go check my current specs? Click on start menu then control panel then system and check your cpu type and amount of ram in the tab generalI had the same choice last year. I went with upgrading my PC so now I am PC/360/Wii and I still am not regretting it. It all comes down to personal taste though.
The PS3 would be the better choice for me personally. I am a university student and have a limited budget and the PS3 happens to fit into it while a PC with the primary purpose of playing games maxed out doesn't. What's more, I already have a nice laptop so I cannot justify spending all that money on a gaming PC when all its other functions would already be covered by my laptop, thus meaning that I would have spent a very large sum on a device meant only for gaming.
In addition to that, I have a nice HDTV so playing BRDs would be a nice feature. I also wouldn't have to torture myself about which parts give me the most bang for my buck. The PS3 also has a number of games that I am interested in, perhaps even more so than a gaming PC. It certainly has Bioshock and Dead Space and I am beyond eager to play those games. Despite split screen dying on consoles, it still has a presence and I have friends I would love to have in the same room as me so I can play with them.
The PS3 just seems a lot more simplistic and accessible and those two adjectives have no negative connotation for me. If you have the time, the money and the confidence, then go ahead and get a gaming PC. I myself don't.
AMD Phenom(tm) 8450 Triple-Core Processor,
2.11 GHz Performance Rated at 5.38 GHz 4GB,
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium Edition, 64-bit (Build Service Pack 16001),
NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430 (GeForce 6150SE nForce 430).
If i missed anything tell me please So yeah, i think thats my PC Specs
AMD Phenom(tm) 8450 Triple-Core Processor,
2.11 GHz Performance Rated at 5.38 GHz 4GB,
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium Edition, 64-bit (Build Service Pack 16001),
NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430 (GeForce 6150SE nForce 430).
If i missed anything tell me please So yeah, i think thats my PC Specs
DonMarkito
Not bad except for the nasty on board video.
You really only need a GPU upgrade. I wouldn't get anything to fancy for your system. Something $150-$200 would do you good.
Also wanna make sure you have a good PSU and a PCe 16x expansion slot.
You have a good CPU and more than enough amount of RAM. Only think you need is a gaming vga and probably a new power supply if your current is not up to the task you can check your power supply by opening the case and see a big sticker that has numbers on it and under the 12v line check how many amps does it write there also might be more than one 12 volts line so add all the 12 volt lines amps ( a good vga needs at least 24-30 amps or more) A good gaming vga like nvidia gtx260+ or ati 4870 which cost a bit under 200 and a capable and good 450-500w psu should cost at least 60-70AMD Phenom(tm) 8450 Triple-Core Processor,
2.11 GHz Performance Rated at 5.38 GHz 4GB,
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium Edition, 64-bit (Build Service Pack 16001),
NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430 (GeForce 6150SE nForce 430).
If i missed anything tell me please So yeah, i think thats my PC Specs
DonMarkito
If you have to buy an entire new motherboard, RAM, CPU and Graphics Card then do not bother. Buy a PS3. What ever you do though do not buy Windows Vista! It's a great way to gimp your PC.
Keep in mind that even if you're upgrading and have say 2 Gigs of RAM, if that RAM is an incompitable type with newer motherboards (That is if your using crappy DDR(1) RAM like me.), then you will need to buy entirely new memory modules. You will also need a new motherboard to house your new processor, and presumably you are going to want to buy a new graphics card. That adds up to alot of money. In order for me to get a system that is significantly more powerful than my PS3 I would have to spend about £40 on a new motherboard, £120 on a new processor and around the same for a new graphics card aswell as about 40 on RAM (Though dabs are selling DDR 2 800 MHZ Kingston value RAM for £20 right now which sounds like a good buy. Single module too.). I also (Me personally that is.) need a new hard drive, which if I'm lucky will cost me around £35. You may also want/need a new soundcard, not sure what these cost generally. This adds up to around £350 (PS3 is under £300 now.) for me using the same case and monitor. Also keep in mind that's me trying to be as cheap as reasonably possible. Not cheap, but then this stuff is alot cheaper in the states (But so is the PS3.).
AMD Phenom(tm) 8450 Triple-Core Processor,
2.11 GHz Performance Rated at 5.38 GHz 4GB,
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium Edition, 64-bit (Build Service Pack 16001),
NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430 (GeForce 6150SE nForce 430).
If i missed anything tell me please So yeah, i think thats my PC Specs
You have a good CPU and more than enough amount of RAM. Only think you need is a gaming vga and probably a new power supply if your current is not up to the task you can check your power supply by opening the case and see a big sticker that has numbers on it and under the 12v line check how many amps does it write there also might be more than one 12 volts line so add all the 12 volt lines amps ( a good vga needs at least 24-30 amps or more) A good gaming vga like nvidia gtx260+ or ati 4870 which cost a bit under 200 and a capable and good 450-500w psu should cost at least 60-70 oh dam thats nice, thanks bud :D well cya imma go work and ill think of that at the same tim ^_^seems good mate. all u need is a graphic card and a new power supply if ur current comp dont have enough of it. That put you well within the $400 range.AMD Phenom(tm) 8450 Triple-Core Processor,
2.11 GHz Performance Rated at 5.38 GHz 4GB,
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium Edition, 64-bit (Build Service Pack 16001),
NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430 (GeForce 6150SE nForce 430).
If i missed anything tell me please So yeah, i think thats my PC Specs
DonMarkito
Here you go.
Evga 9800 GTX+:
$134.99, free shipping and $10 mail in rebait.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130339
(Note: Make sure you have a mid ATX case... This card will not fit into anything smaller)
If you need a new PSU.
Corsair 650w:
$109.99, free shipping and $20 mail in rebate.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005
(Note: I bought 2 of these and the are hands down the best PSU you can buy. You can even use it for future builds.)
Total $244.98 ($214.98 after rebates)
Although your suggestions are good i think is better with a gtx260 which is about 30-40 more and cut a bit on the psu ( a good brand 550w corsair or OCZ are more than enough even for future unless is planning going to use Sli)Here you go.
Evga 9800 GTX+:
$134.99, free shipping and $10 mail in rebait.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130339
(Note: Make sure you have a mid ATX case... This card will not fit into anything smaller)
If you need a new PSU.
Corsair 650w:
$109.99, free shipping and $20 mail in rebate.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005
(Note: I bought 2 of these and the are hands down the best PSU you can buy. You can even use it for future builds.)
Total $244.98 ($214.98 after rebates)
Truth_Hurts_U
If your going to build a new gaming PC... Make sure you get a I7 Intel, Tri channel RAM and at the least a GTX 280. Should only cost you $1,200-$1,300 all said and done.
But you will have a beast PC. Last you a long time.
Wish I would have waited. Stuck with a C2D and a GTX 280 :P Still can play anything out there max settings with the exception of the first Crysis.
P.S.
Never buy PC parts that are good enough for now. Always buy for the future. A $400-500 system isn't future proof.
If you throw a GTX 280 onto the system you will look at around 1400-1500 depending ont he i7 processor y ou get (i picked up the 920, once again, budget reasons). I just put together the system you named minus the 280 (i got an EVGA GTX 260 for budget reasons) and with everything (minus the monitor) it was around 1250. YOu are looking at atleast 100 more for a 280 (and if you go that high you better be sure you have good air flow because these cards get very hot). I should also note that my price was with a lot of combo deals from New Egg. If you can't get those combo deals it'll be more as well. Needless to say, if you wan't a PS3/360 quality system, you will, like he said be spending atleast 1200 dollars, but not with a GTX 280 or a i7940 or 960. Personally, I am extremely happen with my system and New Egg is the best way to go if you want to build up. I guess it is entirely possible to spend between 1200 and 1300 if you go cheap on the mother board and ram and power supply but that wouldn't be very highly recommended.Although your suggestions are good i think is better with a gtx260 which is about 30-40 more and cut a bit on the psu ( a good brand 550w corsair or OCZ are more than enough even for future unless is planning going to use Sli)adamosmaki
His processor isn't the best and will for sure be a bottle neck on higher GPU's. None the less if he wants the cheapest name brand GTX 260.
Evga GTX260
$184.99, free shipping and $20 mail in rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130464
I really think he should spend a few extra $$ and get 100 watts more. That way when he wants to get a new PC he has power. It's only a $15 diff. Price per watt upgrade is enormous.
If you throw a GTX 280 onto the system you will look at around 1400-1500 depending ont he i7 processor y ou get (i picked up the 920, once again, budget reasons). I just put together the system you named minus the 280 (i got an EVGA GTX 260 for budget reasons) and with everything (minus the monitor) it was around 1250. YOu are looking at atleast 100 more for a 280 (and if you go that high you better be sure you have good air flow because these cards get very hot). I should also note that my price was with a lot of combo deals from New Egg. If you can't get those combo deals it'll be more as well. Needless to say, if you wan't a PS3/360 quality system, you will, like he said be spending atleast 1200 dollars, but not with a GTX 280 or a i7940 or 960. Personally, I am extremely happen with my system and New Egg is the best way to go if you want to build up. I guess it is entirely possible to spend between 1200 and 1300 if you go cheap on the mother board and ram and power supply but that wouldn't be very highly recommended. gamer620
If you shop around the net.. It is easy to get deals on alot of things. I did a dream build with a I7 and it only came to $1,200 not including shipping and only had tower and no OS.
[QUOTE="DonMarkito"]
They almost cost the same. What would you chose and why?
obamanian
Buy a 360, you will have almost every single great upcoming and released PC game, especially the RPGs, and costs half the PS3 price
Except Crysis and a few others, but those games alone are not worth $1,000. I assumed the TC had a 360 already, but if he doesn't, he should go for that. Then again, he didn't say which games he'd be interested in, so I'm not even sure if he understands the systems enough to decide which one better fits his needs. We have multiple choices for a reason, you know. Some options fit other people better.[QUOTE="obamanian"][QUOTE="DonMarkito"]
They almost cost the same. What would you chose and why?
NYrockinlegend
Buy a 360, you will have almost every single great upcoming and released PC game, especially the RPGs, and costs half the PS3 price
Except Crysis and a few others, but those games alone are not worth $1,000. I assumed the TC had a 360 already, but if he doesn't, he should go for that. Then again, he didn't say which games he'd be interested in, so I'm not even sure if he understands the systems enough to decide which one better fits his needs. We have multiple choices for a reason, you know. Some options fit other people better.It's not going to cost 1000, all he needs is a new graphics card and he can play games like Crysis just fine. Do you want me to break down the cost for you? Because I can assure you, you do not need a 1000 dollar graphics card (With a new power supply mabye.) to be able to play Crysis on high.
EDIT: He needs to buy a new graphics card first anyway. It's a crime that a PC with specs like that is being used without one. It's like buying a gold sword embedded with rubies and leaving it blunt.
I took the liberty of pricing out some PC upgrades. I'm going to assume your case, hard drive(s), and DVD drive are all fine - if you need new ones, add another $150 to the price of your build.
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Radeon HD 4850 - $135 / $105 after rebate
GeIL 4GB DDR2-800 (CAS 4) - $44
AMD Dual-Core Kuma 7750 "Black Edition" 2.7 ghz - $60
Gigabyte GA-MA770-UD3 Motherboard - $75
free-shipping code: EMCLRMR25 (advertised on Newegg.com, gives you free shipping on the motherboard)
Rosewill 630w Active-PFC 80-plus certified Power Supply - $70
Sub-total - $384 before rebate
Total - $354 after rebate
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Shipping is free, no sales tax is added in most states
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With that system, you can easily play Starcraft II, Diablo III, Crysis Warhead, etc with relative ease. There's no need to go to the latest i7, quad-SLI, DDR3 system for any of the upcoming PC games - the system upgrade I've outlined will cost you around $350 (less than a PS3 ) and leave you playing games with far better visuals than any console. If you want to spend some extra cash, go for a more powerful GPU, and perhaps upgrade your hard drive.
ur cpu is outdated and will defiantly bottleneck high end gpu's but its still a viable cpu and paired with a 4850 and a decent psu will be a decent gaming pc.AMD Phenom(tm) 8450 Triple-Core Processor,
2.11 GHz Performance Rated at 5.38 GHz 4GB,
Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium Edition, 64-bit (Build Service Pack 16001),
NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430 (GeForce 6150SE nForce 430).
If i missed anything tell me please So yeah, i think thats my PC Specs
DonMarkito
Except Crysis and a few others, but those games alone are not worth $1,000. I assumed the TC had a 360 already, but if he doesn't, he should go for that. Then again, he didn't say which games he'd be interested in, so I'm not even sure if he understands the systems enough to decide which one better fits his needs. We have multiple choices for a reason, you know. Some options fit other people better.[QUOTE="NYrockinlegend"][QUOTE="obamanian"]
Buy a 360, you will have almost every single great upcoming and released PC game, especially the RPGs, and costs half the PS3 price
Ek-Andy
It's not going to cost 1000, all he needs is a new graphics card and he can play games like Crysis just fine. Do you want me to break down the cost for you? Because I can assure you, you do not need a 1000 dollar graphics card (With a new power supply mabye.) to be able to play Crysis on high.
EDIT: He needs to buy a new graphics card first anyway. It's a crime that a PC with specs like that is being used without one. It's like buying a gold sword embedded with rubies and leaving it blunt.
I assumed by the TC list, that likes RPGs, ythat is why i recommended a 360, it gets all PC RPGs and many exclusives, for 199$ or 230$ with a HDD
If he likes shooters mostly, maybe PC with Crysis would be a nicer choice, but i just did not see it in his list
Plus 360 has Gears, Halo, Lost Planet 2 too, which are cool shooters
BTw i havew a quad core (6600 something) too, and 2GB ram PC, but got it for work, so i use a 8400 until a proper PC only game comes that i will need to upgrade for, like a next gen RPG only on PC with Crysis like visuals, maybe in 2011 or 2012 we will see such a title i guess (and hope)
For now Witcher is going to consoles with a real next gen engine, and that makes me go towards consoles evenmore
[QUOTE="Ek-Andy"]
[QUOTE="NYrockinlegend"] Except Crysis and a few others, but those games alone are not worth $1,000. I assumed the TC had a 360 already, but if he doesn't, he should go for that. Then again, he didn't say which games he'd be interested in, so I'm not even sure if he understands the systems enough to decide which one better fits his needs. We have multiple choices for a reason, you know. Some options fit other people better.obamanian
It's not going to cost 1000, all he needs is a new graphics card and he can play games like Crysis just fine. Do you want me to break down the cost for you? Because I can assure you, you do not need a 1000 dollar graphics card (With a new power supply mabye.) to be able to play Crysis on high.
EDIT: He needs to buy a new graphics card first anyway. It's a crime that a PC with specs like that is being used without one. It's like buying a gold sword embedded with rubies and leaving it blunt.
I assumed by the TC list, that likes RPGs, ythat is why i recommended a 360, it gets all PC RPGs and many exclusives, for 199$ or 230$ with a HDD
If he likes shooters mostly, maybe PC with Crysis would be a nicer choice, but i just did not see it in his list
Plus 360 has Gears, Halo, Lost Planet 2 too, which are cool shooters
BTw i havew a quad core (6600 something) too, and 2GB ram PC, but got it for work, so i use a 8400 until a proper PC only game comes that i will need to upgrade for, like a next gen RPG only on PC with Crysis like visuals, maybe in 2011 or 2012 we will see such a title i guess (and hope)
For now Witcher is going to consoles with a real next gen engine, and that makes me go towards consoles evenmore
I seriously doubt The Witcher will be better on consoles. It might be diffrent, but for a start it won't be uncensored like the non-US and non-UK versions of the original (Which can be fixed.). That's already a fault in my book. The PC also has all the best WRPGs, while the 360s only semi-worth while WRPG exclusive is your much loved Fable 2, which might well even come to PC yet. Not to mention he will get a better performance out of upgrading his current PC and it will be cheaper. He will also have the ability to mod his games which will add to replay value. DLC will also likely be free, and he won't have to pay for Xbox Live either. I would say the PC is the better option here.
EDIT: I messed a line up.
EDIT 2: That one also.
[QUOTE="gamer620"]If you throw a GTX 280 onto the system you will look at around 1400-1500 depending ont he i7 processor y ou get (i picked up the 920, once again, budget reasons). I just put together the system you named minus the 280 (i got an EVGA GTX 260 for budget reasons) and with everything (minus the monitor) it was around 1250. YOu are looking at atleast 100 more for a 280 (and if you go that high you better be sure you have good air flow because these cards get very hot). I should also note that my price was with a lot of combo deals from New Egg. If you can't get those combo deals it'll be more as well. Needless to say, if you wan't a PS3/360 quality system, you will, like he said be spending atleast 1200 dollars, but not with a GTX 280 or a i7940 or 960. Personally, I am extremely happen with my system and New Egg is the best way to go if you want to build up. I guess it is entirely possible to spend between 1200 and 1300 if you go cheap on the mother board and ram and power supply but that wouldn't be very highly recommended. Truth_Hurts_U
If you shop around the net.. It is easy to get deals on alot of things. I did a dream build with a I7 and it only came to $1,200 not including shipping and only had tower and no OS.
I would be curious what brand products this "dream build" of yours had on it.I don't doubt that you can build a system for that price range, but I do doubt the quality of the hardware you are getting.
I just built a rig for a friend, these were more or less the same parts. Great choice :)I took the liberty of pricing out some PC upgrades. I'm going to assume your case, hard drive(s), and DVD drive are all fine - if you need new ones, add another $150 to the price of your build.
-
Radeon HD 4850 - $135 / $105 after rebate
GeIL 4GB DDR2-800 (CAS 4) - $44
AMD Dual-Core Kuma 7750 "Black Edition" 2.7 ghz - $60
Gigabyte GA-MA770-UD3 Motherboard - $75
free-shipping code: EMCLRMR25 (advertised on Newegg.com, gives you free shipping on the motherboard)
Rosewill 630w Active-PFC 80-plus certified Power Supply - $70
Sub-total - $384 before rebate
Total - $354 after rebate-
Shipping is free, no sales tax is added in most states-
With that system, you can easily play Starcraft II, Diablo III, Crysis Warhead, etc with relative ease. There's no need to go to the latest i7, quad-SLI, DDR3 system for any of the upcoming PC games - the system upgrade I've outlined will cost you around $350 (less than a PS3 ) and leave you playing games with far better visuals than any console. If you want to spend some extra cash, go for a more powerful GPU, and perhaps upgrade your hard drive.
subrosian
if you dont want to get too techinical with your pc, or afraid of altering too much, you may want to look at the hd 4670. Though not nearly as powerful as the other cards listed it will run everything out today on pretty high settings and look much better than anything on consoles. Dont have to worry about psu or anything
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102820
I have been able to tweak one them to play farcry 2 at 1680 x 1050 on all very high at direct x 10 at 30 fps
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