Upgrades are over: Viva Crysis!!!

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#51 mo0ksi
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[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="woobabooba"]

My 9800 pro back in the day ran doom3 better than far cry.

proving they've never really been good at optimization plus

woobabooba



That's a 4-year-old game and 5-year-old GPU. Crysis is on a different order of magnitude in terms of scale, effects, and interactivity. I don't see how that proves anything.

crytek suck at optimizing for hardware...their past proves it.

Crysis is nothing but....far cry with updated graphics ability to pick up physics based items and throw them and shoot down trees and blow up predetermined hit points on houses...yea it's got alot of physics based stuff in the level...but a single core processor could run it better than it runs it now...they didnt even try to get most out of single core cpus...basically only designed it for dualcore cpus.

Really? I wasn't aware that Far Cry has a nanosuit and weapon customization.
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#52 Khaine775
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[QUOTE="woobabooba"][QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="woobabooba"]

My 9800 pro back in the day ran doom3 better than far cry.

proving they've never really been good at optimization plus

mo0ksi



That's a 4-year-old game and 5-year-old GPU. Crysis is on a different order of magnitude in terms of scale, effects, and interactivity. I don't see how that proves anything.

crytek suck at optimizing for hardware...their past proves it.

Crysis is nothing but....far cry with updated graphics ability to pick up physics based items and throw them and shoot down trees and blow up predetermined hit points on houses...yea it's got alot of physics based stuff in the level...but a single core processor could run it better than it runs it now...they didnt even try to get most out of single core cpus...basically only designed it for dualcore cpus.

Really? I wasn't aware that Far Cry has a nanosuit and weapon customization.

I must have misunderstood something as well.

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#53 woobabooba
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omg nanosuit so amazing.....not.

wow let's you select strength,invisiblity,run fast,armor

so goddamn amazing! LOL

painkiller had just as much physics based objects in the level and ran butter smooth.

Nothing in crysis physics are really advanced or anything.

I havent looked into it....does crysis use a middlware physics program or crytek make the physics engine?

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#54 Khaine775
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omg nanosuit so amazing.....not.

wow let's you select strength,invisiblity,run fast,armor

so goddamn amazing! LOL

painkiller had just as much physics based objects in the level and ran butter smooth.

Nothing in crysis physics are really advanced or anything.

I havent looked into it....does crysis use a middlware physics program or crytek make the physics engine?

woobabooba

We all know what made Crysis such an awesome game and it wasn't the physics, gameplay or story..

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#55 Ninja-Hippo
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EA's PC will not MAX out crysis. That term is so badly used, i wish they'd just get rid of it. No machine on the market can "max" crysis. You could spend $4000 on a system and Crysis would still be capable of looking and running better. It's designed to be future-proof.

A year and a half from now, there will also be games on the market which EA's PC cannot handle.

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#56 woobabooba
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i wish intel didnt buy havok crysis would of been alot better if they used havok physics engine.

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#57 Khaine775
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i wish intel didnt buy havok crysis would of been alot better if they used havok physics engine.

woobabooba

Indeed.

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#58 woobabooba
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seemed like the havok physics engine was coded alot better...ran better than crysis's i think developer made physics engine.
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#59 Holy_Phoenix
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I definately do agree that PC games, gaming in general actually, is progressing slower in a tech power base but I'm sure that there will be a game that will eventually be more demanding then Crysis.
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#60 V_Isle
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[QUOTE="FamiBox"]

Max out Crysis?... well... yeah, at an unsteady 25-50fps with no anti-aliasing.

Future (and cheaper) PCs will run Crysis how it was meant to be played (at a rock steady 60FPS+ with 4-8x anti-aliasing)

True_Gamer_

You have to excuse me for not being an impaired 10yo that needs to be told how a game "is meant to be played"....


Enjoy your jaggies then. :lol:
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#61 Teuf_
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crytek suck at optimizing for hardware...their past proves it.

woobabooba


You've offered absolutely zero in the way of any of proof for any of your claims, instead you've just piled on more claims. If you'd like to somehow prove that Far Cry was poorly optimized and somehow prove that this means Crysis is poorly optimized...then go for it. Otherwise I'm just going to assume you're trolling.
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#63 woobabooba
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[QUOTE="woobabooba"]

crytek suck at optimizing for hardware...their past proves it.

Teufelhuhn



You've offered absolutely zero in the way of any of proof for any of your claims, instead you've just piled on more claims. If you'd like to somehow prove that Far Cry was poorly optimized and somehow prove that this means Crysis is poorly optimized...then go for it. Otherwise I'm just going to assume you're trolling.

The a.i in doom3 is better than the a.i in crysis man....lol the idiots driving the boats in crysis will get stuck on rocks and just keep the gas floored...or if you jump in the boat they just keep driving with you in it ignoring you.

If they cant program good a.i what makes you think they are too at optimizing for hardware?

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#64 woobabooba
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Or how about if you kill the gunner on the boat and the idiot a.i drives ashore and jumps out and just ignores you lol just stands there letting you kill him.

Trust me...crysis is not optimized the best it could be...the game isnt all that impressive and should be running at higher framerates.

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#65 M337ING
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[QUOTE="Espada12"][QUOTE="mingo123"]

:| just coz $700 pc can run crysis doesnt mean you wont be upgrading anymore, that hardware will be outdated next year

True_Gamer_

I think you missed this part

In the forseeable future I cant see ANY PC game more demanding or even as demanding as Crysis.....

I think he should change that ANY to MANY.

I whanna hear about that demanding game....Far Cry2? Oh wait thats running on the old FC engine.....Diablo3/SC2? Oh wait these are Blizzard games....

Wait until Project Offset is reveiled...

You'll be waiting without sleeping for Larrabee. ;)

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#66 flclempire
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People who upgrade once a year have a mental sickness, SICKNESS I TELL YOU!
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#67 Khansoul
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:| just coz $700 pc can run crysis doesnt mean you wont be upgrading anymore, that hardware will be outdated next year

mingo123

Heck next month at the rate PC's milk their early adopters.

I have not had to upgrade once since I got an XBOX 360. ;)

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[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]I'm not so sure about that. My 4870 still struggles with Crysis on very high settings.

However it's a good thing the game still looks positively phenomenal at High settings or better. :D
woobabooba

It's just crytek are horrible at optimizing their games....also the 4870 drivers arent totally optimized for crysis yet.

You wanna know who is really HORRIBLE at optimizing their games? GSC Game World, makers of Stalker.

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#69 True_Gamer_
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[QUOTE="mingo123"]

:| just coz $700 pc can run crysis doesnt mean you wont be upgrading anymore, that hardware will be outdated next year

Khansoul

Heck next month at the rate PC's milk their early adopters.

I have not had to upgrade once since I got an XBOX 360. ;)

Posts like this damage peoples' IQ....Again upgrade to play WHAT?

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#70 woobabooba
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eP3Ifl9lpqQ

look at at 3:03 in the link...the tree in crysis fails to fall down and it glitches and the thickness of the tree trunk isnt really enough to keep the tree standing...when the trees fall it crysis it doesnt look natural...it's like they stop in midair then realign to fall or some crap something i noticed...plus why the hell in crysis if i shoot a tree into pieces and pick the log up from a tree and throw it at a enemy why doesnt it hurt them? that's stupid.

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#71 Pinkyimp
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[QUOTE="woobabooba"]

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]I'm not so sure about that. My 4870 still struggles with Crysis on very high settings.

However it's a good thing the game still looks positively phenomenal at High settings or better. :D
AAllxxjjnn

It's just crytek are horrible at optimizing their games....also the 4870 drivers arent totally optimized for crysis yet.

You wanna know who is really HORRIBLE at optimizing their games? GSC Game World, makers of Stalker.

I think they do OK..but nothing great..

The problem with the STALKER series is there bugs..usually when the game ships too and the time for reviewrs to review it.

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#72 woobabooba
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LOL crysis really isnt crap.....i mean it's pretty cool you can pick stuff up...but it's stupid you can only pick up stuff if it's highlighted .

Rage graphics already own crysis...and physics...but doom4 will be king ****

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#73 True_Gamer_
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LOL crysis really isnt crap.....i mean it's pretty cool you can pick stuff up...but it's stupid you can only pick up stuff if it's highlighted .

Rage graphics already own crysis...and physics...but doom4 will be king ****

woobabooba

Whatever helps you sleep at night....

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#74 Pinkyimp
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LOL crysis really isnt crap.....i mean it's pretty cool you can pick stuff up...but it's stupid you can only pick up stuff if it's highlighted .

Rage graphics already own crysis...and physics...but doom4 will be king ****

woobabooba

No..

Rage looks awesome coming fron 4 platforms..Crysis is STILL king..and warhead will just further prove that..

Rage is just ID's way of saying "hahaha look at you ***** devlopers still using some poor unoptmized crap engine lol"..

now Doom4 could kick Crysis's ass..considering it has, what?..4X the horsepower of rage and will look better crysis could be getting a run for its money..

I love PC gaming.

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#75 woobabooba
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[QUOTE="woobabooba"]

LOL crysis really isnt crap.....i mean it's pretty cool you can pick stuff up...but it's stupid you can only pick up stuff if it's highlighted .

Rage graphics already own crysis...and physics...but doom4 will be king ****

Pinkyimp

No..

Rage looks awesome coming fron 4 platforms..Crysis is STILL king..and warhead will just further prove that..

Rage is just ID's way of saying "hahaha look at you ***** devlopers still using some poor unoptmized crap engine lol"..

now Doom4 could kick Crysis's ass..considering it has, what?..4X the horsepower of rage and will look better crysis could be getting a run for its money..

I love PC gaming.

LOL...rage's level design is much more complex and has better textures...plus in the trailer didnt you see the string crap hanging from the guys hat moving when he moved his head ?

I seen one part where a car ran through a sign and broke it into a bunch of pieces.

you might not beable to bend the foliage...but that's not even great on crysis .

graphically on pc rage will look better than crysis.

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#76 Teuf_
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[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="woobabooba"]

crytek suck at optimizing for hardware...their past proves it.

woobabooba



You've offered absolutely zero in the way of any of proof for any of your claims, instead you've just piled on more claims. If you'd like to somehow prove that Far Cry was poorly optimized and somehow prove that this means Crysis is poorly optimized...then go for it. Otherwise I'm just going to assume you're trolling.

The a.i in doom3 is better than the a.i in crysis man....lol the idiots driving the boats in crysis will get stuck on rocks and just keep the gas floored...or if you jump in the boat they just keep driving with you in it ignoring you.

If they cant program good a.i what makes you think they are too at optimizing for hardware?



Doom3 just has mindless zombies and imps. They don't so much as take cover. :?

Besides...what makes you think the AI is at all related to how the engine performs? They're too completely unrelated parts of a game, worked on by two different teams.
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#77 Pinkyimp
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[QUOTE="Pinkyimp"][QUOTE="woobabooba"]

LOL crysis really isnt crap.....i mean it's pretty cool you can pick stuff up...but it's stupid you can only pick up stuff if it's highlighted .

Rage graphics already own crysis...and physics...but doom4 will be king ****

woobabooba

No..

Rage looks awesome coming fron 4 platforms..Crysis is STILL king..and warhead will just further prove that..

Rage is just ID's way of saying "hahaha look at you ***** devlopers still using some poor unoptmized crap engine lol"..

now Doom4 could kick Crysis's ass..considering it has, what?..4X the horsepower of rage and will look better crysis could be getting a run for its money..

I love PC gaming.

LOL...rage's level design is much more complex and has better textures...plus in the trailer didnt you see the string crap hanging from the guys hat moving when he moved his head ?

I seen one part where a car ran through a sign and broke it into a bunch of pieces.

you might not beable to bend the foliage...but that's not even great on crysis .

graphically on pc rage will look better than crysis.

Listen i love rage as much as you do..and ive probably watched the trailer as much as any other PC gamer here..

BUT..Rage is not ids way of showing awesome graphics. D4 will do that..its showing there engine..and how much more advanced it is rather than UE3 or some others..and how on every platform the game will look that same..thats what ID Is aiming for..not best graphics..

RAGE will look good..but Crysis killer?..dont bet on it...instead put your money on Doom4..

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#78 woobabooba
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[QUOTE="woobabooba"][QUOTE="Pinkyimp"][QUOTE="woobabooba"]

LOL crysis really isnt crap.....i mean it's pretty cool you can pick stuff up...but it's stupid you can only pick up stuff if it's highlighted .

Rage graphics already own crysis...and physics...but doom4 will be king ****

Pinkyimp

No..

Rage looks awesome coming fron 4 platforms..Crysis is STILL king..and warhead will just further prove that..

Rage is just ID's way of saying "hahaha look at you ***** devlopers still using some poor unoptmized crap engine lol"..

now Doom4 could kick Crysis's ass..considering it has, what?..4X the horsepower of rage and will look better crysis could be getting a run for its money..

I love PC gaming.

LOL...rage's level design is much more complex and has better textures...plus in the trailer didnt you see the string crap hanging from the guys hat moving when he moved his head ?

I seen one part where a car ran through a sign and broke it into a bunch of pieces.

you might not beable to bend the foliage...but that's not even great on crysis .

graphically on pc rage will look better than crysis.

Listen i love rage as much as you do..and ive probably watched the trailer as much as any other PC gamer here..

BUT..Rage is not ids way of showing awesome graphics. D4 will do that..its showing there engine..and how much more advanced it is rather than UE3 or some others..and how on every platform the game will look that same..thats what ID Is aiming for..not best graphics..

RAGE will look good..but Crysis killer?..dont bet on it...instead put your money on Doom4..

rage and doom4 will both pwn crysis running on pc.

i been pc gaming over 15 years i can see rage's level design is much more complex...crysis is rather plain looking.

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#79 Hewkii
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I have not had to upgrade once since I got an XBOX 360. ;)

Khansoul

I haven't had to upgrade in two years.

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#80 Jamiemydearx3
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Doom 3, good A.I.? Lolwut?

Now F.e.a.r. has some amazing A.I., not Doom III. :lol:

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#81 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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[QUOTE="mingo123"]

:| just coz $700 pc can run crysis doesnt mean you wont be upgrading anymore, that hardware will be outdated next year

True_Gamer_

And upgrade to run what again? ANy games more demanding than Crysis? Oh wait there arent....

Assassin's Creed, Far cry 2, Empire: Total War, Doom 4, Rage, ect... There will be some demanding games in the future.
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#82 Holden1985
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eP3Ifl9lpqQ

look at at 3:03 in the link...the tree in crysis fails to fall down and it glitches and the thickness of the tree trunk isnt really enough to keep the tree standing...when the trees fall it crysis it doesnt look natural...it's like they stop in midair then realign to fall or some crap something i noticed...plus why the hell in crysis if i shoot a tree into pieces and pick the log up from a tree and throw it at a enemy why doesnt it hurt them? that's stupid.

woobabooba

End of the day your a troll you want better physics go play with a ball or something games can only do so much!!!

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#83 AnnoyedDragon
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Doom 4, Rage, ect...Stevo_the_gamer

Judging Carmack's talks these will be console ports, hence will only be demanding if the ports are badly optimised; which from Carmack I doubt.

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#84 woobabooba
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[QUOTE="woobabooba"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eP3Ifl9lpqQ

look at at 3:03 in the link...the tree in crysis fails to fall down and it glitches and the thickness of the tree trunk isnt really enough to keep the tree standing...when the trees fall it crysis it doesnt look natural...it's like they stop in midair then realign to fall or some crap something i noticed...plus why the hell in crysis if i shoot a tree into pieces and pick the log up from a tree and throw it at a enemy why doesnt it hurt them? that's stupid.

Holden1985

End of the day your a troll you want better physics go play with a ball or something games can only do so much!!!

no it's called crappy programming.

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#85 JakeTD21
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Don't fool yourself. There will definately be more demanding games than Crysis. Besides isn't part of being a PC gamer having the latest and greatest in graphics?
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#86 naruto7777
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It will b e outdate in like 6 months
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#87 True_Gamer_
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Don't fool yourself. There will definately be more demanding games than Crysis. Besides isn't part of being a PC gamer having the latest and greatest in graphics?JakeTD21

It depends maybe the imaginary pc gamer in console fanboys' heads...

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#88 ProductNumber49
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[QUOTE="mingo123"]

:| just coz $700 pc can run crysis doesnt mean you wont be upgrading anymore, that hardware will be outdated next year

True_Gamer_

And upgrade to run what again? ANy games more demanding than Crysis? Oh wait there arent....

Crysis 2

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#89 Hewkii
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Crysis 2

ProductNumber49

does not exist.

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#90 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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[QUOTE="ProductNumber49"]

Crysis 2

Hewkii

does not exist.

yet. ;)

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#91 AnnoyedDragon
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[QUOTE="Hewkii"][QUOTE="ProductNumber49"]

Crysis 2

Stevo_the_gamer

does not exist.

yet. ;)

Never the way Crytek are talking, didn't stop them from improving the game in Warhead though.