Upgrading your PC to beyond nextgen levels is cheaper than buying a PS4.

The reality is that right now today if you have a modern desktop with a standard ATX motherboard you can upgrade your PC right now and have a rig that is stronger than next gen consoles and will be able to handle whatever you through it. Basically if you computer isn't more than 5 years old you can probably do this. Everyone's situation is different so some people might just need to buy a GPU and that is it. Others might need to buy a new case and power supply. But either way for $200 to $300 depending on your situation, you can upgrade your rig to beyond that of next gen consoles.

If you have a big enough case and strong enough power supply (600 watts or better) then all you need is a new GPU. You could go cheap and get a 7950 for $200 or you could drop some extra cash and get a 7970 or 760 or 670. All miles ahead of the PS4 (and obviously xbone) while being cheaper. As much as $200 cheaper for some of these cards.

If you don't have a big enough case and strong enuogh PSU then you will have to buy a new case and a PSU. But even then you could STILL upgrade your PC to stronger than the PS4 (read this as next gen ready not haha the PS4 sucks and PC rulez) for less money than the actual PS4. I suggest getting like a 760 for around $250. You can get a solid case with enough fans and air flow for around $50 now a days and again an 80 plus bronze certified PSU (i.e. wont fry your motherboard and kill your computer) that is 600-700 watts start at like $60. So it's still cheaper than the PS4 to go this rout. You could also get a 7950 for around $200 if you want to save a little extra cash.

So as you see, because of the flexibility of the PC it is possible to enter into the world fo PC gaming for cheaper than next gen consoles. Keep in mind too that all these cards come with free games. Actual free games. As in games that you would otherwise have to pay for. Not games that are already free on other platforms. Legit big budget games like Far Cry 3, Tomb Raider, Watch Dogs, Hitman Absolution, DMC, which AMD lets you pick from, and from nVidia you can get Batman: Arkam Origins and $75 in game currency to go towards F2P games warframe, neverwinter, and marvel heroes. I've heard rumors about watch dogs being added to AMD's list as well but can't confirm that (boy would that shoot GPU sales through the roof). Games are always offered up for free with hardware purchases especially if you go AMD. THey are always adding games so in the future who knows what they will give you with their card.

So those of you interested in PC gaming and are worried about the cost don't worry because for many of you the cost will actually be lower than someone shelling out hundreds of bucks on the next gen of consoles this holidy season. Again not everyone will be able do this. Some of you have old ass desktops or desktops that are so proprietary that you would have to replace your mobo or possibly even CPU or both to get up to par. So for you guys a nextgen console would still be cheaper (although slightly and then when you factor in the free games it probably balances out even more) but for those who are eligible the upgrade rout is a very viable option. Especially if both these console's launch line up seem meh to you. You could just spend the $300 to get your PC up to par and enjoy games like watch dogs, titanfall, COD:Ghosts, BF4, and other nextgen games that are multiplat and coming to PC as well and wait a year or two till the real meat and patatoes of the next console generation starts getting served and then pick up the console of your choice.

Again this isn't a haha Master Race owns you thread. Just sharing information and letting people know what options they have.

NFJSupreme

You cannot build a PC that does everything a PS4 can do for $400..................FACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You cannot build a PC that does everything a PS4 can do for $400..................FACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

OneInchMan99

Irrelevant to the topic, but still, no shit.

I take it these type of threads are going to pop up every gen multiple times right?

You mean I can go...EVEN FURTHER BEYOND?

PS4 is cheaper, stop lying to yourselves.SaltyMeatballs

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

My PC's Specs:

• Asus P6T SE Motherboard
• Intel Core i7 920 @ 2.67 Ghz
• 3 x 2GB OCZ DDR3 RAM
• ATI Radeon HD 5870 Video Card
• Samsung Spinpoint 500GB HDD
• Western Digital 1TB HDD
• LG BD Drive
• LG DVD Drive

I'm going to upgrade my video card to a GTX 760 or an AMD Equivalent. What y'all think?

BluRayHiDef

Which one is the best one? The  4GB sounds good. Aside from the Titan, is the GTX 760 the fastest single GPU card?

The amount of console extremists owning themselves in this thread is as staggering as it is hilarious.

-Average Pc gamer posts... 

"You can upgrade your PC and get a better next gen performance for cheaper if..." *takes time to explain how*

-Typical Console idiot

"YOU CANT BUILD A PC FOR UNDERRRRRRR 400 DOLLERRRRRRPSSSS" 

Try to contain your herp derp kids, I know it's hard but practice your words, practice reading them that is. lol.

[QUOTE="NFJSupreme"]

The reality is that right now today if you have a modern desktop with a standard ATX motherboard you can upgrade your PC right now and have a rig that is stronger than next gen consoles and will be able to handle whatever you through it. Basically if you computer isn't more than 5 years old you can probably do this. Everyone's situation is different so some people might just need to buy a GPU and that is it. Others might need to buy a new case and power supply. But either way for $200 to $300 depending on your situation, you can upgrade your rig to beyond that of next gen consoles.

 

If you have a big enough case and strong enough power supply (600 watts or better) then all you need is a new GPU. You could go cheap and get a 7950 for $200 or you could drop some extra cash and get a 7970 or 760 or 670. All miles ahead of the PS4 (and obviously xbone) while being cheaper. As much as $200 cheaper for some of these cards.

 

If you don't have a big enough case and strong enuogh PSU then you will have to buy a new case and a PSU. But even then you could STILL upgrade your PC to stronger than the PS4 (read this as next gen ready not haha the PS4 sucks and PC rulez) for less money than the actual PS4. I suggest getting like a 760 for around $250. You can get a solid case with enough fans and air flow for around $50 now a days and again an 80 plus bronze certified PSU (i.e. wont fry your motherboard and kill your computer) that is 600-700 watts start at like $60. So it's still cheaper than the PS4 to go this rout. You could also get a 7950 for around $200 if you want to save a little extra cash.

 

So as you see, because of the flexibility of the PC it is possible to enter into the world fo PC gaming for cheaper than next gen consoles. Keep in mind too that all these cards come with free games. Actual free games. As in games that you would otherwise have to pay for. Not games that are already free on other platforms. Legit big budget games like Far Cry 3, Tomb Raider, Watch Dogs, Hitman Absolution, DMC, which AMD lets you pick from, and from nVidia you can get Batman: Arkam Origins and $75 in game currency to go towards F2P games warframe, neverwinter, and marvel heroes. I've heard rumors about watch dogs being added to AMD's list as well but can't confirm that (boy would that shoot GPU sales through the roof). Games are always offered up for free with hardware purchases especially if you go AMD. THey are always adding games so in the future who knows what they will give you with their card.

 

So those of you interested in PC gaming and are worried about the cost don't worry because for many of you the cost will actually be lower than someone shelling out hundreds of bucks on the next gen of consoles this holidy season. Again not everyone will be able do this. Some of you have old ass desktops or desktops that are so proprietary that you would have to replace your mobo or possibly even CPU or both to get up to par. So for you guys a nextgen console would still be cheaper (although slightly and then when you factor in the free games it probably balances out even more) but for those who are eligible the upgrade rout is a very viable option. Especially if both these console's launch line up seem meh to you. You could just spend the $300 to get your PC up to par and enjoy games like watch dogs, titanfall, COD:Ghosts, BF4, and other nextgen games that are multiplat and coming to PC as well and wait a year or two till the real meat and patatoes of the next console generation starts getting served and then pick up the console of your choice.

 

Again this isn't a haha Master Race owns you thread. Just sharing information and letting people know what options they have.

OneInchMan99

You cannot build a PC that does everything a PS4 can do for $400..................FACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's also a fact that you didn't read the title or OP.

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

[QUOTE="muffin200"]

 

It will in 2013. Are you sure about 2020?

m3Boarder32

8800GTX in 2006 was playing games with better graphics and performance than consoles, and it continue to do that in 2013. Remember back in 2006 cows saying that ps3 will surpass the 8800 and BS like that :lol:

LOL

Are you trying to tell us that Tons of games < Crysis 3? :lol:

[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

8800GTX in 2006 was playing games with better graphics and performance than consoles, and it continue to do that in 2013. Remember back in 2006 cows saying that ps3 will surpass the 8800 and BS like that :lol:

glez13

LOL

Are you trying to tell us that Tons of games < Crysis 3? :lol:

Don't tell him that there's a (unofficial) DX10 patch for Crysis 3 and that 8800 still outputs better graphics than consoles. ;)

The reality is that right now today if you have a modern desktop with a standard ATX motherboard you can upgrade your PC right now and have a rig that is stronger than next gen consoles and will be able to handle whatever you through it.  Basically if you computer isn't more than 5 years old you can probably do this.  Everyone's situation is different so some people might just need to buy a GPU and that is it.  Others might need to buy a new case and power supply.  But either way for $200 to $300 depending on your situation, you can upgrade your rig to beyond that of next gen consoles.  

 

If you have a big enough case and strong enough power supply (600 watts or better) then all you need is a new GPU. You could go cheap and get a 7950 for $200 or you could drop some extra cash and get a  7970 or 760 or 670.  All miles ahead of the PS4 (and obviously xbone) while being cheaper.  As much as $200 cheaper for some of these cards.

 

If you don't have a big enough case and strong enuogh PSU then you will have to buy a new case and a PSU.  But even then you could STILL upgrade your PC to stronger than the PS4 (read this as next gen ready not haha the PS4 sucks and PC rulez) for less money than the actual PS4.  I suggest getting like a 760 for around $250.  You can get a solid case with enough fans and air flow for around $50 now a days and again an 80 plus bronze certified PSU (i.e. wont fry your motherboard and kill your computer) that is 600-700 watts start at like $60.  So it's still cheaper than the PS4 to go this rout.  You could also get a 7950 for around $200 if you want to save a little extra cash. 

 

So as you see, because of the flexibility of the PC it is possible to enter into the world fo PC gaming for cheaper than next gen consoles.  Keep in mind too that all these cards come with free games.  Actual free games.  As in games that you would otherwise have to pay for.  Not games that are already free on other platforms.  Legit big budget games like Far Cry 3, Tomb Raider, Watch Dogs, Hitman Absolution, DMC, which AMD lets you pick from, and from nVidia you can get Batman: Arkam Origins and $75 in game currency to go towards F2P games warframe, neverwinter, and marvel heroes.  I've heard rumors about watch dogs being added to AMD's list as well but can't confirm that (boy would that shoot GPU sales through the roof). Games are always offered up for free with hardware purchases especially if you go AMD. THey are always adding games so in the future who knows what they will give you with their card.

 

So those of you interested in PC gaming and are worried about the cost don't worry because for many of you the cost will actually be lower than someone shelling out hundreds of bucks on the next gen of consoles this holidy season.  Again not everyone will be able do this.  Some of you have old ass desktops or desktops that are so proprietary that you would have to replace your mobo or possibly even CPU  or both to get up to par.  So for you guys a nextgen console would still be cheaper (although slightly and then when you factor in the free games it probably balances out even more) but for those who are eligible the upgrade rout is a very viable option. Especially if both these console's launch line up seem meh to you.  You could just spend the $300 to get your PC up to par and enjoy games like watch dogs, titanfall, COD:Ghosts, BF4, and other nextgen games that are multiplat and coming to PC as well and wait a year or two till the real meat and patatoes of the next console generation starts getting served and then pick up the console of your choice.

 

Again this isn't a haha Master Race owns you thread.  Just sharing information and letting people know what options they have.

NFJSupreme

Yeah maybe that is why so many hermits are below PS4 levels..:lol: Confirmed by Valve it self.

Yeah maybe that is why so many hermits are below PS4 levels..:lol: Confirmed by Valve it self.

tormentos

PC encompasses a broad-spectrum of systems. They don't need a  standard  system, to run games, as there are games that appeal to all people.

That being said, TC is outlining a  possibility. Something, you apparently cannot grasp.

[QUOTE="NFJSupreme"]

The reality is that right now today if you have a modern desktop with a standard ATX motherboard you can upgrade your PC right now and have a rig that is stronger than next gen consoles and will be able to handle whatever you through it.  Basically if you computer isn't more than 5 years old you can probably do this.  Everyone's situation is different so some people might just need to buy a GPU and that is it.  Others might need to buy a new case and power supply.  But either way for $200 to $300 depending on your situation, you can upgrade your rig to beyond that of next gen consoles.  

 

If you have a big enough case and strong enough power supply (600 watts or better) then all you need is a new GPU. You could go cheap and get a 7950 for $200 or you could drop some extra cash and get a  7970 or 760 or 670.  All miles ahead of the PS4 (and obviously xbone) while being cheaper.  As much as $200 cheaper for some of these cards.

 

If you don't have a big enough case and strong enuogh PSU then you will have to buy a new case and a PSU.  But even then you could STILL upgrade your PC to stronger than the PS4 (read this as next gen ready not haha the PS4 sucks and PC rulez) for less money than the actual PS4.  I suggest getting like a 760 for around $250.  You can get a solid case with enough fans and air flow for around $50 now a days and again an 80 plus bronze certified PSU (i.e. wont fry your motherboard and kill your computer) that is 600-700 watts start at like $60.  So it's still cheaper than the PS4 to go this rout.  You could also get a 7950 for around $200 if you want to save a little extra cash. 

 

So as you see, because of the flexibility of the PC it is possible to enter into the world fo PC gaming for cheaper than next gen consoles.  Keep in mind too that all these cards come with free games.  Actual free games.  As in games that you would otherwise have to pay for.  Not games that are already free on other platforms.  Legit big budget games like Far Cry 3, Tomb Raider, Watch Dogs, Hitman Absolution, DMC, which AMD lets you pick from, and from nVidia you can get Batman: Arkam Origins and $75 in game currency to go towards F2P games warframe, neverwinter, and marvel heroes.  I've heard rumors about watch dogs being added to AMD's list as well but can't confirm that (boy would that shoot GPU sales through the roof). Games are always offered up for free with hardware purchases especially if you go AMD. THey are always adding games so in the future who knows what they will give you with their card.

 

So those of you interested in PC gaming and are worried about the cost don't worry because for many of you the cost will actually be lower than someone shelling out hundreds of bucks on the next gen of consoles this holidy season.  Again not everyone will be able do this.  Some of you have old ass desktops or desktops that are so proprietary that you would have to replace your mobo or possibly even CPU  or both to get up to par.  So for you guys a nextgen console would still be cheaper (although slightly and then when you factor in the free games it probably balances out even more) but for those who are eligible the upgrade rout is a very viable option. Especially if both these console's launch line up seem meh to you.  You could just spend the $300 to get your PC up to par and enjoy games like watch dogs, titanfall, COD:Ghosts, BF4, and other nextgen games that are multiplat and coming to PC as well and wait a year or two till the real meat and patatoes of the next console generation starts getting served and then pick up the console of your choice.

 

Again this isn't a haha Master Race owns you thread.  Just sharing information and letting people know what options they have.

tormentos

Yeah maybe that is why so many hermits are below PS4 levels..:lol: Confirmed by Valve it self.

Yeah maybe that is why so many hermits are below PS4 levels..:lol: Confirmed by Valve it self.

tormentos

going by Valve Statistics, about 10 million PC gamers already have an equivalent or better PC than next gen consoles.

10 million > 0 :cool:

and by the time next-gen console user base reach 10 million, PC gamers with equivalent or better PC will be 20 million.

hmmm the ATX standard? which was introduced by Intel in 1995?

yeah pretty sure a modern PC basically means one purchased within the past 2-3 years.

hmmm the ATX standard? which was introduced by Intel in 1995?

yeah pretty sure a modern PC basically means one purchased within the past 2-3 years.

WilliamRLBaker

So whats the new standard chef ?

Why do you care? My PC can beat a PS4 and that is all that matters. clyde46

Yeah and it cost you more than the PS4 to..:lol:

Wait aren't you a lemming or a you on your Hermit disguise today.? I find this funny comming from you who defend the xbox one even more inferior and more expensive hardware,you should stop playing the convenient hypocrite.

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"] What model of a GTX 760 were you thinking of getting? The models that are clocked above 1050mhz are faster then stock GTX 670's. Plus you can pick up 4gb models for around $300 04dcarraher

Which one is the best one? The  4GB sounds good. Aside from the Titan, is the GTX 760 the fastest single GPU card?

[QUOTE="clyde46"]Why do you care? My PC can beat a PS4 and that is all that matters. tormentos

Yeah and it cost you more than the PS4 to..:lol:

It can also do a lot more than the PS4

[QUOTE="tormentos"]

Yeah maybe that is why so many hermits are below PS4 levels..:lol: Confirmed by Valve it self.

MK-Professor

going by Valve Statistics, about 10 million PC gamers already have an equivalent or better PC than next gen consoles.

10 million > 0 :cool:

and by the time next-gen console user base reach 10 million, PC gamers with equivalent or better PC will be 20 million.

10 million when hardwarev stronger than the PS4 is available since 2010 or even less.? wow that is some very weak numbers hell i think the PS4 can break that first year.

Yeah because each year PC grows faster than consoles right.? Again there is 2010 hardware that is stronger than the PS4 and only 10 million 3 year latter own something more powerful.?

Even the 600 PS3 didn't took 3 years to reach 10 millions,and the PS2 sold it on its 1st year.

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

Which one is the best one? The  4GB sounds good. Aside from the Titan, is the GTX 760 the fastest single GPU card?

m3Boarder32

that would depend on the type of cooling

 

It can also do a lot more than the PS4

lostrib

At a way higher cost..

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"]

Yeah maybe that is why so many hermits are below PS4 levels..:lol: Confirmed by Valve it self.

tormentos

going by Valve Statistics, about 10 million PC gamers already have an equivalent or better PC than next gen consoles.

10 million > 0 :cool:

and by the time next-gen console user base reach 10 million, PC gamers with equivalent or better PC will be 20 million.

10 million when hardwarev stronger than the PS4 is available since 2010 or even less.? wow that is some very weak numbers hell i think the PS4 can break that first year.

Yeah because each year PC grows faster than consoles right.? Again there is 2010 hardware that is stronger than the PS4 and only 10 million 3 year latter own something more powerful.?

Even the 600 PS3 didn't took 3 years to reach 10 millions,and the PS2 sold it on its 1st year.

was any of that supposed to make sense?

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

 

It can also do a lot more than the PS4

tormentos

At a way higher cost..

Duh

Damn Clyde quit rustling the old fart jimmies :lol:

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

Which one is the best one? The  4GB sounds good. Aside from the Titan, is the GTX 760 the fastest single GPU card?

m3Boarder32

Are you playing on mute ?

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"]

Yeah maybe that is why so many hermits are below PS4 levels..:lol: Confirmed by Valve it self.

tormentos

going by Valve Statistics, about 10 million PC gamers already have an equivalent or better PC than next gen consoles.

10 million > 0 :cool:

and by the time next-gen console user base reach 10 million, PC gamers with equivalent or better PC will be 20 million.

10 million when hardwarev stronger than the PS4 is available since 2010 or even less.? wow that is some very weak numbers hell i think the PS4 can break that first year.

Yeah because each year PC grows faster than consoles right.? Again there is 2010 hardware that is stronger than the PS4 and only 10 million 3 year latter own something more powerful.?

Even the 600 PS3 didn't took 3 years to reach 10 millions,and the PS2 sold it on its 1st year.

Because you think every Steam user does the survey and you think every PC gamers uses Steam.

Really though? I'm running an i5 with Integrated graphics. I'm PC illiterate...my buddies all have $1000 rigs that they say are "middle of the road" in terms of power. Why would "middle of the road" cost $1000? Are they doing it wrong? Or are we basically saying that a low end, entry level GPU upgrade for $300 or so is still more powerful than a PS4?i_waaan

An entry level GPU does not cost 300

[QUOTE="i_waaan"]Really though? I'm running an i5 with Integrated graphics. I'm PC illiterate...my buddies all have $1000 rigs that they say are "middle of the road" in terms of power. Why would "middle of the road" cost $1000? Are they doing it wrong? Or are we basically saying that a low end, entry level GPU upgrade for $300 or so is still more powerful than a PS4?lostrib

An entry level GPU does not cost 300

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"]

Yeah maybe that is why so many hermits are below PS4 levels..:lol: Confirmed by Valve it self.

tormentos

going by Valve Statistics, about 10 million PC gamers already have an equivalent or better PC than next gen consoles.

10 million > 0 :cool:

and by the time next-gen console user base reach 10 million, PC gamers with equivalent or better PC will be 20 million.

10 million when hardwarev stronger than the PS4 is available since 2010 or even less.? wow that is some very weak numbers hell i think the PS4 can break that first year.

Yeah because each year PC grows faster than consoles right.? Again there is 2010 hardware that is stronger than the PS4 and only 10 million 3 year latter own something more powerful.?

Even the 600 PS3 didn't took 3 years to reach 10 millions,and the PS2 sold it on its 1st year.

I am not saying PC gaming will grow 10 million a year, what i am saying is that the rest of pc games will upgrade so the number of pc's that are better than next-gen consoles will increase exponentially (I mean in 3 years GPU's that destroy ps4 will cost $50, so everyone even the poor pc gamers can have gaming pc's stronger than ps4).

my pc can runs all the games great..no need to upgrade more when no developers are going to take advantage of it..

[QUOTE="crimsonman1245"]

[QUOTE="AM-Gamer"]

A 670 won't be miles ahead of a PS4 in actual performance, it will probably be worse.

Bebi_vegeta

Get another 670, case closed.

[QUOTE="tormentos"]

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

going by Valve Statistics, about 10 million PC gamers already have an equivalent or better PC than next gen consoles.

10 million > 0 :cool:

and by the time next-gen console user base reach 10 million, PC gamers with equivalent or better PC will be 20 million.

MK-Professor

10 million when hardwarev stronger than the PS4 is available since 2010 or even less.? wow that is some very weak numbers hell i think the PS4 can break that first year.

Yeah because each year PC grows faster than consoles right.? Again there is 2010 hardware that is stronger than the PS4 and only 10 million 3 year latter own something more powerful.?

Even the 600 PS3 didn't took 3 years to reach 10 millions,and the PS2 sold it on its 1st year.

I am not saying PC gaming will grow 10 million a year, what i am saying is that the rest of pc games will upgrade so the number of pc's that are better than next-gen consoles will increase exponentially (I mean in 3 years GPU's that destroy ps4 will cost $50, so everyone even the poor pc gamers can have gaming pc's stronger than ps4).

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="i_waaan"]Really though? I'm running an i5 with Integrated graphics. I'm PC illiterate...my buddies all have $1000 rigs that they say are "middle of the road" in terms of power. Why would "middle of the road" cost $1000? Are they doing it wrong? Or are we basically saying that a low end, entry level GPU upgrade for $300 or so is still more powerful than a PS4?i_waaan

An entry level GPU does not cost 300

[QUOTE="clyde46"]Why do you care? My PC can beat a PS4 and that is all that matters. tormentos

Yeah and it cost you more than the PS4 to..:lol:

Wait aren't you a lemming or a you on your Hermit disguise today.? I find this funny comming from you who defend the xbox one even more inferior and more expensive hardware,you should stop playing the convenient hypocrite.

[QUOTE="i_waaan"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

An entry level GPU does not cost 300

04dcarraher

Outside of purely specs/TFLOPS there is nothing yet that shows the 7850 will match the PS4 performance

[QUOTE="tormentos"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"]Why do you care? My PC can beat a PS4 and that is all that matters. clyde46

Yeah and it cost you more than the PS4 to..:lol:

Wait aren't you a lemming or a you on your Hermit disguise today.? I find this funny comming from you who defend the xbox one even more inferior and more expensive hardware,you should stop playing the convenient hypocrite.

Buying a case and the power supply it's already almost 200 dollars that's half way.... just saying...

Missing the Table/ Mouse / Keyboard / Mother board/ Memory / Speakers / Monitor / Graphics card / Processor / HDD / and a Blue Ray disk player.

Buying a case and the power supply it's already almost 200 dollars that's half way.... just saying...

Joedgabe

Not necesarrily.  Also it says upgrade

Buying a case and the power supply it's already almost 200 dollars that's half way.... just saying...

Joedgabe

[QUOTE="Joedgabe"]

Buying a case and the power supply it's already almost 200 dollars that's half way.... just saying...

clyde46

lol. no

[QUOTE="Joedgabe"]

Buying a case and the power supply it's already almost 200 dollars that's half way.... just saying...

lostrib

Not necesarrily.  Also it says upgrade

I'm not a computer genious.. but let's all be honest.... upgrading isn't not as simple as changing your computer's memory, and when you wanna upgrade. you wanna upgrade as much as you can.... you don't wanna use new hardware with the older one... annd.. most people have company made PC's.. which a lot of their components are custom and not upgradable.

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Joedgabe"]

Buying a case and the power supply it's already almost 200 dollars that's half way.... just saying...

Joedgabe

Not necesarrily.  Also it says upgrade

I'm not a computer genious.. but let's all be honest.... upgrading isn't not as simple as changing your computer's memory, and when you wanna upgrade. you wanna upgrade as much as you can.... you don't wanna use new hardware with the older one... 

it can be, that is an upgrade.  Also there is nothing wrong mixing old and new hardware

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Joedgabe"]

Buying a case and the power supply it's already almost 200 dollars that's half way.... just saying...

Joedgabe

Not necesarrily.  Also it says upgrade

I'm not a computer genious.. but let's all be honest.... upgrading isn't not as simple as changing your computer's memory, and when you wanna upgrade. you wanna upgrade as much as you can.... you don't wanna use new hardware with the older one... 

[QUOTE="Joedgabe"]

Buying a case and the power supply it's already almost 200 dollars that's half way.... just saying...

clyde46

HAF 912: same price, far better cooling options :P

Your eyes don't deceive you; there's room for a 200mm in the front and room for another on top! :cool: