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#1 FlashMan2006
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http://www.usatoday.com/tech/gaming/2007-03-19-ps3-woes_N.html

Even the non-gaming community is beginning to see the light, the Wii, and the disaster the PS3 is despite all the initial hype (which I just did not get). I mean $600? What were they thinking!? :lol:

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"Sony's new PlayStation 3 video game has gone from top dog to underdog in record time.

Despite the buildup and hype around its arrival in November, the PS3 has been outsold so far — at a rate of almost 2-to-1 — by the Nintendo Wii.

In February, the Wii was the top-selling console video game system with an estimated 335,000 sold, outpacing the Microsoft Xbox 360 (228,000) and the PS3 (127,000), according to The NPD Group.

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#2 AHUGECAT
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The Wii is still trash. It can sell 352356236236 but it will have no good third party games due to lack of power.
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#3 Phoenix963
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Eh.. Sales prove little, especially for a trashy system like Wii
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#4 nowakawon
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Heh, frankly, I don't consider the Wii apart of the 360/PS3 consoles. Don't get me wrong, I love the Wii. With that however, it is an entirely different type of entertainment as to what the PS3/360 give you.
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The Wii is still trash. It can sell 352356236236 but it will have no good third party games due to lack of power. AHUGECAT

Looks at Trauma Center and Super Monkey Ball...

...What?

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#6 OceanLeet
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Eh.. Sales prove little, especially for a trashy system like WiiPhoenix963

Pitiful damage control.  Even taking the Wii out of the picture, how on earth did the PS3 get outsold by the freakin GAMEBOY ADVANCE??
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#7 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]The Wii is still trash. It can sell 352356236236 but it will have no good third party games due to lack of power. slothboyadvance

Looks at Trauma Center and Super Monkey Ball...

...What?


Looks at Devil May Cry 4 and Assassin's Creed for the Wii...

...Wait.

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Heh, frankly, I don't consider the Wii apart of the 360/PS3 consoles. Don't get me wrong, I love the Wii. With that however, it is an entirely different type of entertainment as to what the PS3/360 give you.nowakawon

Exactly!  That's why the Wii60 thing is so good.  You get the best of both worlds.
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Eh.. Sales prove little, especially for a trashy system like WiiPhoenix963
Sorry about your lost exclusives cow, no reason to own the PS3
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#10 slothboyadvance
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[QUOTE="slothboyadvance"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]The Wii is still trash. It can sell 352356236236 but it will have no good third party games due to lack of power. AHUGECAT

Looks at Trauma Center and Super Monkey Ball...

...What?


Looks at Devil May Cry 4 and Assassin's Creed for the Wii...

...Wait.

I don't believe I said those were coming for the Wii...

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#11 mattbbpl
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The Wii is still trash. It can sell 352356236236 but it will have no good third party games due to lack of power. AHUGECAT
Very few developing houses care about power. They care about profits and reaching a large audience. What fun is it to release a good game and have it lose money and go unnoticed? Besides, many developers love developing with the motion sensors. Even famous developers like Kojima are interested.
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#12 nowakawon
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[QUOTE="nowakawon"]Heh, frankly, I don't consider the Wii apart of the 360/PS3 consoles. Don't get me wrong, I love the Wii. With that however, it is an entirely different type of entertainment as to what the PS3/360 give you.OceanLeet

Exactly!  That's why the Wii60 thing is so good.  You get the best of both worlds.

*high fives* Go! Go! Wii60!
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what do sales prove? any gamer knows how bad the wii's librairy is. its worse thent he ps3's IMO. And the numbers they give dont warrant the word "abysmal."
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#14 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="slothboyadvance"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]The Wii is still trash. It can sell 352356236236 but it will have no good third party games due to lack of power. slothboyadvance

Looks at Trauma Center and Super Monkey Ball...

...What?


Looks at Devil May Cry 4 and Assassin's Creed for the Wii...

...Wait.

I don't believe I said those were coming for the Wii...

Yeah it was my point that the Wii hardly has any third party games, and never will due to power. The Wii is purely a first party console.

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#15 slothboyadvance
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[QUOTE="slothboyadvance"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="slothboyadvance"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]The Wii is still trash. It can sell 352356236236 but it will have no good third party games due to lack of power. AHUGECAT

Looks at Trauma Center and Super Monkey Ball...

...What?


Looks at Devil May Cry 4 and Assassin's Creed for the Wii...

...Wait.

I don't believe I said those were coming for the Wii...

Yeah it was my point that the Wii hardly has any third party games, and never will due to power. The Wii is purely a first party console.

Good games can be made regardless of power.

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#16 AvinashTyagi
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[QUOTE="slothboyadvance"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="slothboyadvance"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]The Wii is still trash. It can sell 352356236236 but it will have no good third party games due to lack of power. AHUGECAT

Looks at Trauma Center and Super Monkey Ball...

...What?


Looks at Devil May Cry 4 and Assassin's Creed for the Wii...

...Wait.

I don't believe I said those were coming for the Wii...

Yeah it was my point that the Wii hardly has any third party games, and never will due to power. The Wii is purely a first party console.

That's a silly comment, Wii's third party support will grow as the userbase grows
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#17 MikeE21286
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[QUOTE="slothboyadvance"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="slothboyadvance"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]The Wii is still trash. It can sell 352356236236 but it will have no good third party games due to lack of power. AHUGECAT

Looks at Trauma Center and Super Monkey Ball...

...What?


Looks at Devil May Cry 4 and Assassin's Creed for the Wii...

...Wait.

I don't believe I said those were coming for the Wii...

Yeah it was my point that the Wii hardly has any third party games, and never will due to power. The Wii is purely a first party console.



This is pretty much true...you mention Monkey Ball and Trauma Center, but those are hardly big 3rd party titles.....the likes of MGS, DMC, FF, RE5, Lost Planet, Oblivion, etc.....will never grace the Wii ever.
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#18 AHUGECAT
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Good games can be made regardless of power.slothboyadvance

Not really, maybe a few exceptions, but some of the best games had top of the graphics (for their time), ie Ocarina of Time, Metroid Prime, Resident Evil 4, Halo, Final Fantasy VII, etc. etc.

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#19 metalmonkey268
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Exactly! That's why the Wii60 thing is so good. You get the best of both worlds.
OceanLeet


What if the "best" of one of the worlds is poor 3rd party trash?
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#20 air0123
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What does all of this even mean? Sales don't matter? since when? Maybe with one crappy game like 50 cents game, but not a console. a console winner has been decided by one thing and one thing only and that is sales, no matter how much someone wants to damage control.
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#21 Gen007
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well after playing all 3 and owning 2 i say 360 is the best wii is fun for a little but i find myself quickly bored with the games
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#22 AHUGECAT
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well after playing all 3 and owning 2 i say 360 is the best wii is fun for a little but i find myself quickly bored with the gamesGen007

Yeah Xbox 360 is by far the best. It doesn't need primitive gimmicks for fun gameplay.

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#23 captainlouie
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The Wii is still trash. It can sell 352356236236 but it will have no good third party games due to lack of power. AHUGECAT
third party support is effected far more by sales then anything else. and especially not power.
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#24 Japanese_Monk
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The Wii is still trash. It can sell 352356236236 but it will have no good third party games due to lack of power. AHUGECAT
Huh? Why the heck do you think DMC4 went to 360?Let me give you a hint... It wasn't because the PS3 was selling so well.
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#25 rock_solid
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[QUOTE="FlashMan2006"]http://www.usatoday.com/tech/gaming/2007-03-19-ps3-woes_N.html

Even the non-gaming community is beginning to see the light, the Wii, and the disaster the PS3 is despite all the initial hype (which I just did not get). I mean $600? What were they thinking!? :lol:

USA TODAY
"Sony's new PlayStation 3 video game has gone from top dog to underdog in record time.

Despite the buildup and hype around its arrival in November, the PS3 has been outsold so far — at a rate of almost 2-to-1 — by the Nintendo Wii.

In February, the Wii was the top-selling console video game system with an estimated 335,000 sold, outpacing the Microsoft Xbox 360 (228,000) and the PS3 (127,000), according to The NPD Group.

good post. thanks.
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[QUOTE="slothboyadvance"]Good games can be made regardless of power.AHUGECAT

Not really, maybe a few exceptions, but some of the best games had top of the graphics (for their time), ie Ocarina of Time, Metroid Prime, Resident Evil 4, Halo, Final Fantasy VII, etc. etc.

Then great wii games just need to optimize the Wii's power to its full extent, they may not look as good as PS3/360 games but they sure as hell wont look bad... I mean just because titles like Metroid Prime, RE4 and Halo are now last gen dosent make them obsolete, they are still just as good as when they were released, even with out the shiny high def gloss of this gen.

As long as the games are optimized for the Wii,Wii will get some great "new" titles.

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[QUOTE="Phoenix963"]Eh.. Sales prove little, especially for a trashy system like WiiOceanLeet

Pitiful damage control.  Even taking the Wii out of the picture, how on earth did the PS3 get outsold by the freakin GAMEBOY ADVANCE??

How did the Xbox 360 manage to get outsold by the Wii?

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#28 Dreams-Visions
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it's not suprising that a news source would comment on this story. the only people defending these sales have been Cows. that should tell us all something.
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#29 rowzzr
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i like wii. but sales mean nothing without solid 3rd party support to keep the sold wii's alive. ps3 has power, but why pay 600 dollars for it, when its exclusives could be bought via the 360 (w/c has good power, enough 3d party support, cheaper price.) i say wii60.
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#30 StryderK
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it's not suprising that a news source would comment on this story. the only people defending these sales have been Cows. that should tell us all something.Dreams-Visions

Sometimes I feel pity for the die hard Cows from SDF. I really do. They finally get some happy news with Home and LBP.....And then less than a week later, get socked by a one two combo of NPD numbers and DMC4 going multiplat......I mean, it seems right now as much as Sony wants to go forward, the instant they take one step forward, they are forced two steps back by events out of their control......POOR cows! So they are now desperately damge controlling to make their favorite console look good when it's ever slowly sinking now.

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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]it's not suprising that a news source would comment on this story. the only people defending these sales have been Cows. that should tell us all something.StryderK

Sometimes I feel pity for the die hard Cows from SDF. I really do. They finally get some happy news with Home and LBP.....And then less than a week later, get socked by a one two combo of NPD numbers and DMC4 going multiplat......I mean, it seems right now as much as Sony wants to go forward, the instant they take one step forward, they are forced two steps back by events out of their control......POOR cows! So they are now desperately damge controlling to make their favorite console look good when it's ever slowly sinking now.



I have to disagree.... all of this was in their control. But they handled a bad launch and forced a pricier console and released it with a blu-ray and no games and made terrible commercials and gave themselves a bad image. That's their fault and they could have avoided a lot of the losses and bad news if they did things right and respected the competition and didn't think people would buy anything Sony put out for a console
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[QUOTE="slothboyadvance"]Good games can be made regardless of power.AHUGECAT

Not really, maybe a few exceptions, but some of the best games had top of the graphics (for their time), ie Ocarina of Time, Metroid Prime, Resident Evil 4, Halo, Final Fantasy VII, etc. etc.



The question is this, are those games still good regardless of their current status when compared to modern games? If you answered yes, that means those games stood the test of time due to their gameplay, not their graphics.
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#33 greenleaflink
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The Wii is still trash. It can sell 352356236236 but it will have no good third party games due to lack of power. AHUGECAT
Ubisoft is prolly seeing more profits from rayman and redsteel than graw 2, because of its development cost, and marketing etc... think developers are stupid? they can see its 360 [hardcore] and nintendo [casuals] so they getting the best of both worlds EA, CAPCOM, have all realized the best $$ is multiplatform.
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#34 hellraiser_07
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Sales means nothing to me when a POS like the wii is on top .
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Heh, frankly, I don't consider the Wii apart of the 360/PS3 consoles. Don't get me wrong, I love the Wii. With that however, it is an entirely different type of entertainment as to what the PS3/360 give you.nowakawon

although thats true.. at the end of the day, they're all fighting for the same money.. and nobody wants anything other than the no. 1 spot

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Sales means nothing to me when a POS like the wii is on top .hellraiser_07
DAMAGE CONTROL!
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#37 Thistleweight
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Are those official sales for Feburary? If so doesn't this sound the death knell for the Wii?

It went down by 100,000 units between Jan and Feb. The 360 is not moving. PS3 looks like it needs life support.

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#38 Devil-Itachi
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what do sales prove? any gamer knows how bad the wii's librairy is. its worse thent he ps3's IMO. And the numbers they give dont warrant the word "abysmal."Koalakommander
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#39 Plug1Plug2
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So, Sony is finished. We can all agree on that. Let's move on.
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Don't we just love the double standards sheep impose on us? Last gen it was always "sales don't matter". Suddenly it's "sales are everything". :lol: Pathetic.
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#41 fuzzysquash
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Don't we just love the double standards sheep impose on us? Last gen it was always "sales don't matter". Suddenly it's "sales are everything". :lol: Pathetic.ken_gamer
I'd say that's true for all fanboys. Last gen, cows were saying, "graphics don't matter, it's the games." This gen, it's "all about teh cell!" Last gen, lemmings were saying, "jrpg's suck!" This gen, some of them are saying, "Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey will destroy FF!"
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#42 SapSacPrime
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Sales means nothing to me when a POS like the wii is on top .hellraiser_07

No and I guess exclusives aren't important either huh? Funny because last gen all that mattered was sales and quantity.

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#43 tango90101
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no suprise here....

the ps3 was a failure from concept. 

so much for their "we have a 100 million userbase" theory of helping the ps3 sales....

where are the 100 million now?  :lol:

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#44 kingsy_the_one
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The Wii is still trash. It can sell 352356236236 but it will have no good third party games due to lack of power. AHUGECAT
And graphics are everything.. :roll:
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[QUOTE="ken_gamer"]Don't we just love the double standards sheep impose on us? Last gen it was always "sales don't matter". Suddenly it's "sales are everything". :lol: Pathetic.fuzzysquash
I'd say that's true for all fanboys. Last gen, cows were saying, "graphics don't matter, it's the games." This gen, it's "all about teh cell!" Last gen, lemmings were saying, "jrpg's suck!" This gen, some of them are saying, "Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey will destroy FF!"

Ken.. Ask any Sheep, not fanboy, what the best console was last gen and they'll say PS2.. Only a fanboy would deny that...
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The GC catered for my tastes more, Metroid Prime 1&2, RE 4 & Remake, Killer 7 (minus horrible loading), Zelda WW & TP, Paper Mario, SC: II (with Link), Eternal Darkness, Fire Emblem etc.

However I would be lying If I didnt say I envied the likes of Okami, Silent Hill, FF & DQ as well as all the JRPG love you guys got...  

Edit: Ohh and DMC

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#47 Evo310whp
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Eh.. Sales prove little, especially for a trashy system like WiiPhoenix963

What sad damage control but what else can you expect from cows these days. Even if you take out the Wii the PS3 got outsold but the GBA...the freaking GBA come on. So much for Sony 100 million user base to give the PS3 the edge. People dont want a mediocre system with  nothing but lackluster games and a expensive price tag

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#48 psyko7144
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[QUOTE="Phoenix963"]Eh.. Sales prove little, especially for a trashy system like WiiOceanLeet

Pitiful damage control.  Even taking the Wii out of the picture, how on earth did the PS3 get outsold by the freakin GAMEBOY ADVANCE??

PWNAGE!!!
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#49 b4lBroWnY4LifE
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No matter what any one says. Nintendo is always going to be right in the system wars. And for all of those that think Nintendo should sell itself to companies like Sega did, Nintendo is a 30 million dollar corporation. And it has a huge advertising budget. The Big N is not going anywhere.
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#50 rybe1025
Member since 2004 • 6362 Posts
Bad time to be a Sony fan. First find out that your system is being outsold by gameboy. Next loose DMC and AC6. Then get a paper like USA Today giving ya a smack down