UT3 8.5 on PC. 8.0 on PS3 forseeable?

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#51 Tamarind_Face
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You dont have any Idea do you? 360 doesnt support Kb/m, mods, servers... How can it be on par with the PC version or even the PS3? PS3 version supports all of these.

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How do you know it wont support any of those? How do you know the ps3 version will have dedicated servers?

All have been confirmed by Mark Rein. You could setup a dedicated server for the PS3 by using the PC version of UT3. Any gamer knows that 360 doesnt support kb/m, dedicated servers(xbox live is closed) and MS doesnt allow mods.

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#52 dracula_16
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Surprisingly high for a rehash. The single player must not be as great as Epic first said.

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#53 flatline711
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[QUOTE="ExilRock"][QUOTE="Dusty-Ps3"]UT is horrible anywayTamarind_Face

I must agree, it's always tried to be a Counter Strike killer, but it always fails at doing so.

Heck, it fails against COD4, Halo 3 or even Gears of War.

NO. UT3, Halo 3 and Gears of War... all 3 of those fail against COD4.

I have to agree 100% there. As much as I love the UT and Halo multiplayer aspects. CoD4 just hit the perfect note with me.

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#54 dk_2007
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[QUOTE="Frostbite24"][QUOTE="Tamarind_Face"]

[QUOTE="Frostbite24"]So it recieved an 8.5 for the PC which is the superior version right? Does the PS3 have the goods to retain the same quality as the PC version?Tamarind_Face

You do know Oblivion for the 360 is rated higher than the PC version?

Sure I do, I'm a lem and an ex Hermit. Still the question stands the PS3 doesn't really compare to the 360, I have no question the 360 version will be on par with the PC. My question is about the PS3 which often is sub-par compared to the other system multi-plats.

You dont have any Idea do you? 360 doesnt support Kb/m, mods, servers... How can it be on par with the PC version or even the PS3? PS3 version supports all of these.

You can use kb/m on 360. Use google and you will find some adapters.

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#55 killab2oo5
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I can't say im surprised,after the playing the demo I was very disapointed.-.- They should've not made vehicles such a large focus in the PC version and I dont like how all the maps seem to be so hazy and all.The maps are also too large,so most games are much less hectic than UT04...UT04 is much better imo.
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#56 Olidsc
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[QUOTE="senses_fail_06"][QUOTE="kevy619"]Ouch, but I saw it coming. Most reviews are AA. I just cant resist rubbing in that Gears (year old console game) > UT3. Hermits deserve to have it rubbed in as well. While we are at it, console shooters > pc shooters now on average. :)kevy619

I'm sure hermits truely devasted, especially considering they have the superior of both. Oh and standards :wink:.

Hermits are too stubborn/arrogant to even realize the truth.

Your lemming angst is overflowing. Also yes, amongst PC FPS gamers, console FPSes are of a lower standard. In the time it takes you to move your reticle just to aim at someone's general direction, a mouse and keyboard setup could've killed two people, vastly increasing the necessity of fast reaction time and precision aim. When you die or kill someone in a console shooter, you see it coming from miles away. With a PC shooter, you can die at any moment if you slip up, leading to a much more intense game. Whether or not one or the other is more fun is a personal opinion, but some people just prefer games where skill is displayed more prominently.

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#57 Gun_Haze
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Who cares about Gamespot reviews anymore? :lol:

This site lives for its forums..nothing else.

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#58 KillaHalo2o9
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8.5 wow, but I thought it was going to be AAA like UT99 and UT04. :(
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#59 kevy619
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When GS rates games, theres certain Factors that are involved. PS3 has Different standards for games then PC does, so It could get possibly a 9.0 or higher if its the best game on PS3 now. black_awpN1

No, give it up hermits. Thats not the way things work now in 2007.

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#60 kevy619
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Who cares about Gamespot reviews anymore? :lol:

This site lives for its forums..nothing else.

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Most websites gave it AA scores.

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#61 amorbis1001
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Quake 5 arena will massacre UT3. :D

I am hyping it 9.5 right now.

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#62 kevy619
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[QUOTE="kevy619"]

[QUOTE="senses_fail_06"][QUOTE="kevy619"]Ouch, but I saw it coming. Most reviews are AA. I just cant resist rubbing in that Gears (year old console game) > UT3. Hermits deserve to have it rubbed in as well. While we are at it, console shooters > pc shooters now on average. :)Olidsc

I'm sure hermits truely devasted, especially considering they have the superior of both. Oh and standards :wink:.

Hermits are too stubborn/arrogant to even realize the truth.

Your lemming angst is overflowing. Also yes, amongst PC FPS gamers, console FPSes are of a lower standard. In the time it takes you to move your reticle just to aim at someone's general direction, a mouse and keyboard setup could've killed two people, vastly increasing the necessity of fast reaction time and precision aim. When you die or kill someone in a console shooter, you see it coming from miles away. With a PC shooter, you can die at any moment if you slip up, leading to a much more intense game. Whether or not one or the other is more fun is a personal opinion, but some people just prefer games where skill is displayed more prominently.

if you say so... thats just preference of a contol input. Not a different standard of video game.

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#63 kevy619
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Quake 5 arena will massacre UT3. :D

I am hyping it 9.5 right now.

amorbis1001

I hope so, I havent played a good quake game in almost a decade.

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#64 naval
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maybe, it can even get a higher score, considering consoles typically have lower standards and ut3 is bringing quite a few thing for the first time too a console
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[QUOTE="kevy619"]

[QUOTE="senses_fail_06"][QUOTE="kevy619"]Ouch, but I saw it coming. Most reviews are AA. I just cant resist rubbing in that Gears (year old console game) > UT3. Hermits deserve to have it rubbed in as well. While we are at it, console shooters > pc shooters now on average. :)Olidsc

I'm sure hermits truely devasted, especially considering they have the superior of both. Oh and standards :wink:.

Hermits are too stubborn/arrogant to even realize the truth.

Your lemming angst is overflowing. Also yes, amongst PC FPS gamers, console FPSes are of a lower standard. In the time it takes you to move your reticle just to aim at someone's general direction, a mouse and keyboard setup could've killed two people, vastly increasing the necessity of fast reaction time and precision aim. When you die or kill someone in a console shooter, you see it coming from miles away. With a PC shooter, you can die at any moment if you slip up, leading to a much more intense game. Whether or not one or the other is more fun is a personal opinion, but some people just prefer games where skill is displayed more prominently.

...so doesn't that mean its takes more skill to be good at console shooters?

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#66 amorbis1001
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[QUOTE="amorbis1001"]

Quake 5 arena will massacre UT3. :D

I am hyping it 9.5 right now.

kevy619

I hope so, I havent played a good quake game in almost a decade.

quake arena was the game that introduced me to pc gaming, so if 5 flops (by my standards) then I am gonna quit pc gaming forever(well except fot counter strike)

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#67 Olidsc
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[QUOTE="Olidsc"][QUOTE="kevy619"]

[QUOTE="senses_fail_06"][QUOTE="kevy619"]Ouch, but I saw it coming. Most reviews are AA. I just cant resist rubbing in that Gears (year old console game) > UT3. Hermits deserve to have it rubbed in as well. While we are at it, console shooters > pc shooters now on average. :)kevy619

I'm sure hermits truely devasted, especially considering they have the superior of both. Oh and standards :wink:.

Hermits are too stubborn/arrogant to even realize the truth.

Your lemming angst is overflowing. Also yes, amongst PC FPS gamers, console FPSes are of a lower standard. In the time it takes you to move your reticle just to aim at someone's general direction, a mouse and keyboard setup could've killed two people, vastly increasing the necessity of fast reaction time and precision aim. When you die or kill someone in a console shooter, you see it coming from miles away. With a PC shooter, you can die at any moment if you slip up, leading to a much more intense game. Whether or not one or the other is more fun is a personal opinion, but some people just prefer games where skill is displayed more prominently.

if you say so... thats just preference of a contol input. Not a different standard of video game.

Well yes, but (at least back in the old days) the game was usually built with the control scheme in mind. Things like run speed, reticle size, hitbox size...etc are all vastly different. Just compare UT, Quake, or Counter strike to Halo or killzone.

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[QUOTE="Olidsc"][QUOTE="kevy619"]

[QUOTE="senses_fail_06"][QUOTE="kevy619"]Ouch, but I saw it coming. Most reviews are AA. I just cant resist rubbing in that Gears (year old console game) > UT3. Hermits deserve to have it rubbed in as well. While we are at it, console shooters > pc shooters now on average. :)Chickity_China

I'm sure hermits truely devasted, especially considering they have the superior of both. Oh and standards :wink:.

Hermits are too stubborn/arrogant to even realize the truth.

Your lemming angst is overflowing. Also yes, amongst PC FPS gamers, console FPSes are of a lower standard. In the time it takes you to move your reticle just to aim at someone's general direction, a mouse and keyboard setup could've killed two people, vastly increasing the necessity of fast reaction time and precision aim. When you die or kill someone in a console shooter, you see it coming from miles away. With a PC shooter, you can die at any moment if you slip up, leading to a much more intense game. Whether or not one or the other is more fun is a personal opinion, but some people just prefer games where skill is displayed more prominently.

...so doesn't that mean its takes more skill to be good at console shooters?

Hey everyone, let's play with our toes! That'll make it so it takes more skill!

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#69 mikemil828
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[QUOTE="kevy619"][QUOTE="amorbis1001"]

Quake 5 arena will massacre UT3. :D

I am hyping it 9.5 right now.

amorbis1001

I hope so, I havent played a good quake game in almost a decade.

quake arena was the game that introduced me to pc gaming, so if 5 flops (by my standards) then I am gonna quit pc gaming forever(well except fot counter strike)

If such a game did flop at GS, most likely you'll discount the review and say that it meet your standard just like what the UT folks are doing now.

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[QUOTE="Frostbite24"]So it recieved an 8.5 for the PC which is the superior version right? Does the PS3 have the goods to retain the same quality as the PC version?Tamarind_Face

You do know Oblivion for the 360 is rated higher than the PC version?

You do know that the PC version is better in every way.....right? It's called standards. Even GS admitted the PC version was better...........

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#71 Olidsc
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...so doesn't that mean its takes more skill to be good at console shooters?

Chickity_China

Struggling with a control scheme doesn't make you good. You could learn how to drive with your feet on the steering wheel if you wanted, doesn't mean you're the best driver in the world. When everyone else can kill you just that much faster, you have to react just that much faster in order to even be competitive. Sure, everyone else is hindered the same way, but the one guy with a ridiculously fast reaction time and very good precision aim doesn't differentiate himself quite as much from the rest due to it. It's like the difference between t-ball and baseball. A strong person with good form in his swing can hit it out of the park, but now he no longer needs to have good hand eye coordination to hit the ball. Either way you're lessening the impact of a skill that can be improved upon and used to better your performance in a game, and PC gamers (because we're all so omg elitist) don't like that.

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#72 trix5817
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[QUOTE="ultima-flare"]PC has higher standards, so they should at least score equal. O and the bad comment in the review summary is that the menus seem like a console games. So the ps3 version won't have that going against it Dusty-Ps3

Then why does Crysis and STALKER MP suck so bad?

Crysis' MP doesn't suck.........it's actually pretty good. They just gotta fix the net code, which will be addressed this week as said by Crytek.

STALKER's MP was tacked on......it was never meant to have good MP. It's an SP game.

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Frankly, I expected a lower score. Like 7.5 - 8 cause that's all it really deserved. The game might have a huge MP community, but the game's multiplayer itself doesn't go further than being a fast-paced shooter. It's just UT2004 with updated visuals. Some PC gamers probably expected more than that.mo0ksi

And what do you call CoD4 or Halo 3?:lol:

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#74 trix5817
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[QUOTE="black_awpN1"]When GS rates games, theres certain Factors that are involved. PS3 has Different standards for games then PC does, so It could get possibly a 9.0 or higher if its the best game on PS3 now. kevy619

No, give it up hermits. Thats not the way things work now in 2007.

Yes, it is the way things work. It's in GS's "How We Rate Our Games" article. Read it. Learn it. Then stop spouting crap out of your mouth. Ok? Good deal.

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#75 kevy619
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[QUOTE="Tamarind_Face"]

[QUOTE="Frostbite24"]So it recieved an 8.5 for the PC which is the superior version right? Does the PS3 have the goods to retain the same quality as the PC version?trix5817

You do know Oblivion for the 360 is rated higher than the PC version?

You do know that the PC version is better in every way.....right? It's called standards. Even GS admitted the PC version was better...........

On gamerankings, orange box pc > orange box 360 . Give it up.

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#76 kevy619
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[QUOTE="kevy619"]

[QUOTE="black_awpN1"]When GS rates games, theres certain Factors that are involved. PS3 has Different standards for games then PC does, so It could get possibly a 9.0 or higher if its the best game on PS3 now. trix5817

No, give it up hermits. Thats not the way things work now in 2007.

Yes, it is the way things work. It's in GS's "How We Rate Our Games" article. Read it. Learn it. Then stop spouting crap out of your mouth. Ok? Good deal.

Ive read it, and now you look like an idiot. Expalin why gears(a year old xbox 360 game ), is aaa on pc now. How about you pay attention to whats actually happening around you?

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#77 Shinobi7777
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GG calling a game that got 8.5 horrible.UT is still for me the best multiplayer game out there.
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#78 naval
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[QUOTE="trix5817"][QUOTE="kevy619"]

[QUOTE="black_awpN1"]When GS rates games, theres certain Factors that are involved. PS3 has Different standards for games then PC does, so It could get possibly a 9.0 or higher if its the best game on PS3 now. kevy619

No, give it up hermits. Thats not the way things work now in 2007.

Yes, it is the way things work. It's in GS's "How We Rate Our Games" article. Read it. Learn it. Then stop spouting crap out of your mouth. Ok? Good deal.

Ive read it, and now you look like an idiot. Expalin why gears(a year old xbox 360 game ), is aaa on pc now. How about you pay attention to whats actually happening around you?

seein gears on pc had much better visual, it removed geow biggest critcism that it was short and had new MP mode editors, optimized for kb and mouse etc and still got aaa, kind of prooves the pc games have higher standards

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#79 Polaris_choice
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[QUOTE="Tamarind_Face"]

[QUOTE="Frostbite24"]So it recieved an 8.5 for the PC which is the superior version right? Does the PS3 have the goods to retain the same quality as the PC version?Frostbite24

You do know Oblivion for the 360 is rated higher than the PC version?

Sure I do, I'm a lem and an ex Hermit. Still the question stands the PS3 doesn't really compare to the 360, I have no question the 360 version will be on par with the PC. My question is about the PS3 which often is sub-par compared to the other system multi-plats.

The PS3 has equal or better multiplats then the 360 on almost every major title released this year. Considering devs are actually getting the hang of the PS3 and UT3 looks better and runs better then GeoW on the 360 and the 360 version wount even suport KB+M or mods you can expect the PS3 version to easily be better then the 360 version in pretty much every conceviable way.

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#80 Polaris_choice
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[QUOTE="kevy619"][QUOTE="trix5817"][QUOTE="kevy619"]

[QUOTE="black_awpN1"]When GS rates games, theres certain Factors that are involved. PS3 has Different standards for games then PC does, so It could get possibly a 9.0 or higher if its the best game on PS3 now. naval

No, give it up hermits. Thats not the way things work now in 2007.

Yes, it is the way things work. It's in GS's "How We Rate Our Games" article. Read it. Learn it. Then stop spouting crap out of your mouth. Ok? Good deal.

Ive read it, and now you look like an idiot. Expalin why gears(a year old xbox 360 game ), is aaa on pc now. How about you pay attention to whats actually happening around you?

seein gears on pc had much better visual, it removed geow biggest critcism that it was short and had new MP mode editors, optimized for kb and mouse etc and still got aaa, kind of prooves the pc games have higher standards

You forget the fact that gaming standards rise every year. The fact is a console game has won GOTY 4 out of the past 5 years in the overall categorys competing with whatever came out on pc that year. It proves that the very best games are usually on conosles. Sorry the pc does not have higher standards for gaming.

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#81 naval
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[QUOTE="naval"]

seein gears on pc had much better visual, it removed geow biggest critcism that it was short and had new MP mode editors, optimized for kb and mouse etc and still got aaa, kind of prooves the pc games have higher standards

Polaris_choice

You forget the fact that gaming standards rise every year. The fact is a console game has won GOTY 4 out of the past 5 years in the overall categorys competing with whatever came out on pc that year. It proves that the very best games are usually on conosles. Sorry the pc does not have higher standards for gaming.

and pc won 2 of the past 5 goty.standards may have risen over ne year but all the extra content, upgraded visuals and new levels were the reason the game managed a 9. the orignal version would have managed just a 8.0 imo.

ps : games are gotybased on what are they able to do for their system. RE 4 on pc would have rated very low.

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#82 DeltoidRecon
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Well the thing about UT3 on PC is that it had 3 other versions before it, which the PS3 (or 360) have not had any steady stream of UT labeled titles (Champions is irrelevant). If GS (or any site) knocks points off a console game for not living up to previous PC ONLY titles in the series then I think the reviewer needs a swift kick to the nads/tatas..
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[QUOTE="ExilRock"][QUOTE="Dusty-Ps3"]UT is horrible anywaykevy619

I must agree, it's always tried to be a Counter Strike killer, but it always fails at doing so.

Heck, it fails against COD4, Halo 3 or even Gears of War.



lol. CSS is a campfest. just try camping in UT. it moves so fast, you'd be dead in seconds. and CoD4 is a joke; it's basically CoD3 with prettier graphics and a new setting. and how can you even mention gears of war's atrocious multiplayer? and we all know how Halo 3 racks up... only n00bs claim it takes ''skill''