Valkyria Chronicles is a broken game.

I made a thread earlier in the year about how Valkyria Chronicles is almost entirely like the story of Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn, but with a few subtle differences. Anyway, this isn't the point of the thread, but I just wanted to point out that it is cliched and not a redeeming factory.

Valkyria Chronicles is a broken game. The orders and such are over-powered, and the classes are unbalanced. There isn't much use in leveling up an engineer or a sniper. You may occasionally need the lancer and shocktrooper, but you can almost entirely rely on the scouts for almost every mission. Like Welkin said, "We don't need a Valkyria to win this way!" Yeah, all we need is Alicia, Defense Boost, and Caution. Orders like these should be less effective or cost more CP total, because they are too useful for only 1 or 2 CP. Most of the time, you can use this, then rush Alicia/some other less attractive Scout to the certain point that needs capturing or something, and win the level.

This, however, isn't always the case. There are the occasional situations where you'll be screwed if you try this, but once you take out a few people, you are good to go. Scout rushing is so effective, and it's made worse when you gain the ability to move twice during one turn! I don't have this ability, but I saw it on YouTube. If anything, the other classes should get this because they cover less ground and lag behind.

Also, the grading system shouldn't be enirely based on turns. It should also have more to do with the amount of kills. I get an A Rank every time.

It's not like the game is terrible. The story has picked up since the time I made that one thread about the story not being original at all. I dig the symbolism with the Valkyrias being nukes and the battles modeling real life ones, but the dialogue is also really cheesy and hard to get past. I won't get in to the story too much because we already discussed this, and I don't want it to detract from the main thought.

Anyway, it is a bummer that you have to beat the game first in order to set the difficulty. It's too easy with the scouts, and the game is in desperate need of an overhaul. Still fun. I am on chapter 16, but I am about ready to finish it. Two more chapters after this.

I am not trying to bash the game, but I want to hear what you guys think about the battle system/gameplay. Also, I am really tired, so I can't focus, and I have to wake up in five hours or something. I probably won't check back for responses until tomorrow, so I will probably see you then.

What say you?

this is a good read and all but this seems to more belong in a shadow_hosi

If its broken, its the best broken game I have played.SpruceCaboose

Its such a coincidence that you made this thread today, because I spent much of today getting through chapters 15,16, and 17. I spent the majority of the game using the technique you mentioned above to attain rank a status.

I dont find it broken at all, i haven't had the chance to play it lately and i'm stuck in chapter 10, but so far the game has been somehow challenging in a very good way, i'm sorry, i just don't see your point, maybe i should try that technique your using, but if i remember right, the last time i try to use scouts, the enemies wipe the floor with me.

BTW, i almost forget, i'm really happy that finally the game is having some decent sales, now let's pray for a sequel.

I made a thread earlier in the year about how Valkyria Chronicles is almost entirely like the story of Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn, but with a few subtle differences. Anyway, this isn't the point of the thread, but I just wanted to point out that it is cliched and not a redeeming factory.

Valkyria Chronicles is a broken game. The orders and such are over-powered, and the classes are unbalanced. There isn't much use in leveling up an engineer or a sniper. You may occasionally need the lancer and shocktrooper, but you can almost entirely rely on the scouts for almost every mission. Like Welkin said, "We don't need a Valkyria to win this way!" Yeah, all we need is Alicia, Defense Boost, and Caution. Orders like these should be less effective or cost more CP total, because they are too useful for only 1 or 2 CP. Most of the time, you can use this, then rush Alicia/some other less attractive Scout to the certain point that needs capturing or something, and win the level.

This, however, isn't always the case. There are the occasional situations where you'll be screwed if you try this, but once you take out a few people, you are good to go. Scout rushing is so effective, and it's made worse when you gain the ability to move twice during one turn! I don't have this ability, but I saw it on YouTube. If anything, the other classes should get this because they cover less ground and lag behind.

Also, the grading system shouldn't be enirely based on turns. It should also have more to do with the amount of kills. I get an A Rank every time.

It's not like the game is terrible. The story has picked up since the time I made that one thread about the story not being original at all. I dig the symbolism with the Valkyrias being nukes and the battles modeling real life ones, but the dialogue is also really cheesy and hard to get past. I won't get in to the story too much because we already discussed this, and I don't want it to detract from the main thought.

Anyway, it is a bummer that you have to beat the game first in order to set the difficulty. It's too easy with the scouts, and the game is in desperate need of an overhaul. Still fun. I am on chapter 16, but I am about ready to finish it. Two more chapters after this.

I am not trying to bash the game, but I want to hear what you guys think about the battle system/gameplay. Also, I am really tired, so I can't focus, and I have to wake up in five hours or something. I probably won't check back for responses until tomorrow, so I will probably see you then.

What say you?

DeathScape666

I'm not a SRPG enthuiast, so I can't comment too much on how balanced the battle system is (I personally get the most use of out of my Shocktroopers).But as someone who hasn't played many SRPG's and can't get into most of them, I find the game to be fantastic (which shows the game has a good amount of appeal outside the SRPG genre). It's easily one of my favorite games this gen.Fantastic visuals, an extremely good mix between accessibility and depth, a clever use of real-time movement, a very pleasent story, etc. It's a very great package.

BTW, I stuck on a certain battle right now, so I'm going to try your Scout Rushing technique. ;)

I made a thread earlier in the year about how Valkyria Chronicles is almost entirely like the story of Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn, but with a few subtle differences. Anyway, this isn't the point of the thread, but I just wanted to point out that it is cliched and not a redeeming factory.

Valkyria Chronicles is a broken game. The orders and such are over-powered, and the classes are unbalanced. There isn't much use in leveling up an engineer or a sniper. You may occasionally need the lancer and shocktrooper, but you can almost entirely rely on the scouts for almost every mission. Like Welkin said, "We don't need a Valkyria to win this way!" Yeah, all we need is Alicia, Defense Boost, and Caution. Orders like these should be less effective or cost more CP total, because they are too useful for only 1 or 2 CP. Most of the time, you can use this, then rush Alicia/some other less attractive Scout to the certain point that needs capturing or something, and win the level.

This, however, isn't always the case. There are the occasional situations where you'll be screwed if you try this, but once you take out a few people, you are good to go. Scout rushing is so effective, and it's made worse when you gain the ability to move twice during one turn! I don't have this ability, but I saw it on YouTube. If anything, the other classes should get this because they cover less ground and lag behind.

Also, the grading system shouldn't be enirely based on turns. It should also have more to do with the amount of kills. I get an A Rank every time.

It's not like the game is terrible. The story has picked up since the time I made that one thread about the story not being original at all. I dig the symbolism with the Valkyrias being nukes and the battles modeling real life ones, but the dialogue is also really cheesy and hard to get past. I won't get in to the story too much because we already discussed this, and I don't want it to detract from the main thought.

Anyway, it is a bummer that you have to beat the game first in order to set the difficulty. It's too easy with the scouts, and the game is in desperate need of an overhaul. Still fun. I am on chapter 16, but I am about ready to finish it. Two more chapters after this.

I am not trying to bash the game, but I want to hear what you guys think about the battle system/gameplay. Also, I am really tired, so I can't focus, and I have to wake up in five hours or something. I probably won't check back for responses until tomorrow, so I will probably see you then.

What say you?

DeathScape666

[QUOTE="DeathScape666"]

I made a thread earlier in the year about how Valkyria Chronicles is almost entirely like the story of Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn, but with a few subtle differences. Anyway, this isn't the point of the thread, but I just wanted to point out that it is cliched and not a redeeming factory.

Valkyria Chronicles is a broken game. The orders and such are over-powered, and the classes are unbalanced. There isn't much use in leveling up an engineer or a sniper. You may occasionally need the lancer and shocktrooper, but you can almost entirely rely on the scouts for almost every mission. Like Welkin said, "We don't need a Valkyria to win this way!" Yeah, all we need is Alicia, Defense Boost, and Caution. Orders like these should be less effective or cost more CP total, because they are too useful for only 1 or 2 CP. Most of the time, you can use this, then rush Alicia/some other less attractive Scout to the certain point that needs capturing or something, and win the level.

This, however, isn't always the case. There are the occasional situations where you'll be screwed if you try this, but once you take out a few people, you are good to go. Scout rushing is so effective, and it's made worse when you gain the ability to move twice during one turn! I don't have this ability, but I saw it on YouTube. If anything, the other classes should get this because they cover less ground and lag behind.

Also, the grading system shouldn't be enirely based on turns. It should also have more to do with the amount of kills. I get an A Rank every time.

It's not like the game is terrible. The story has picked up since the time I made that one thread about the story not being original at all. I dig the symbolism with the Valkyrias being nukes and the battles modeling real life ones, but the dialogue is also really cheesy and hard to get past. I won't get in to the story too much because we already discussed this, and I don't want it to detract from the main thought.

Anyway, it is a bummer that you have to beat the game first in order to set the difficulty. It's too easy with the scouts, and the game is in desperate need of an overhaul. Still fun. I am on chapter 16, but I am about ready to finish it. Two more chapters after this.

I am not trying to bash the game, but I want to hear what you guys think about the battle system/gameplay. Also, I am really tired, so I can't focus, and I have to wake up in five hours or something. I probably won't check back for responses until tomorrow, so I will probably see you then.

What say you?

Tragic_Kingdom7

I'm not a SRPG enthuiast, so I can't comment too much on how balanced the battle system is (I personally get the most use of out of my Shocktroopers).But as someone who hasn't played many SRPG's and can't get into most of them, I find the game to be fantastic (which shows the game has a good amount of appeal outside the SRPG genre). It's easily one of my favorite games this gen.Fantastic visuals, an extremely good mix between accessibility and depth, a clever use of real-time movement, a very pleasent story, etc. It's a very great package.

BTW, I stuck on a certain battle right now, so I'm going to try your Scout Rushing technique. ;)

I made a thread earlier in the year about how Valkyria Chronicles is almost entirely like the story of Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn, but with a few subtle differences. Anyway, this isn't the point of the thread, but I just wanted to point out that it is cliched and not a redeeming factory.

Valkyria Chronicles is a broken game. The orders and such are over-powered, and the classes are unbalanced. There isn't much use in leveling up an engineer or a sniper. You may occasionally need the lancer and shocktrooper, but you can almost entirely rely on the scouts for almost every mission. Like Welkin said, "We don't need a Valkyria to win this way!" Yeah, all we need is Alicia, Defense Boost, and Caution. Orders like these should be less effective or cost more CP total, because they are too useful for only 1 or 2 CP. Most of the time, you can use this, then rush Alicia/some other less attractive Scout to the certain point that needs capturing or something, and win the level.

This, however, isn't always the case. There are the occasional situations where you'll be screwed if you try this, but once you take out a few people, you are good to go. Scout rushing is so effective, and it's made worse when you gain the ability to move twice during one turn! I don't have this ability, but I saw it on YouTube. If anything, the other classes should get this because they cover less ground and lag behind.

Also, the grading system shouldn't be enirely based on turns. It should also have more to do with the amount of kills. I get an A Rank every time.

It's not like the game is terrible. The story has picked up since the time I made that one thread about the story not being original at all. I dig the symbolism with the Valkyrias being nukes and the battles modeling real life ones, but the dialogue is also really cheesy and hard to get past. I won't get in to the story too much because we already discussed this, and I don't want it to detract from the main thought.

Anyway, it is a bummer that you have to beat the game first in order to set the difficulty. It's too easy with the scouts, and the game is in desperate need of an overhaul. Still fun. I am on chapter 16, but I am about ready to finish it. Two more chapters after this.

I am not trying to bash the game, but I want to hear what you guys think about the battle system/gameplay. Also, I am really tired, so I can't focus, and I have to wake up in five hours or something. I probably won't check back for responses until tomorrow, so I will probably see you then.

What say you?

DeathScape666

I made a thread earlier in the year about how Valkyria Chronicles is almost entirely like the story of Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn, but with a few subtle differences. Anyway, this isn't the point of the thread, but I just wanted to point out that it is cliched and not a redeeming factory.

Valkyria Chronicles is a broken game. The orders and such are over-powerei, I agree, but not to a point where the game is broken. and the ****s are unbalanced. LOL, no. There isn't much use in leveling up an engineer or a sniper.Uh your gonna need to level up your engineer. First the tank is a key unit for almost all missions and it's bound to get damaged. So you're gonna need it to be repaired by the engineer. Second, snipers and lancers needammo refilling. and removing mines and repairing sandbags for cover. and the enginner needs to do all this without being killed, and if you don't lvl up your enginner then your screwed as no oneelse can do waht the enginner does. plus enginners make good scouts kinda they can run far. AND SNIPERS FREAKING OWN, how can you not lvl them up they can take out units across the map with a well placed shot, and everytime you lvl snipers the circle thing gets smaller and smaller soits basically 90% guranteeed kill right there. You may occasionally need the lancer and shocktrooper, No you need them both for most missions almost all the time.but you can almost entirely rely on the scouts for almost every mission. HAHAHA can scouts take out troopers? can scouts take out troopers by themself?Like Welkin said, "We don't need a Valkyria to win this way!" Yeah, all we need is Alicia, Defense Boost, and Caution.LOL, ru kidding me? sure scouts are important but they can't do everything. you can do that only on that one mission where you take the city back with the windmill. show me anoter map you can do that. Orders like these should be less effective or cost more CP total, because they are too useful for only 1 or 2 CP. Disagreeed. Most of the time, you can use this, then rush Alicia/some other less attractive Scout to the certain point that needs capturing or something, and win the level.LOL ok i dont even think you even played the game and just watched people play it on youtube.

This, however, isn't always the case. There are the occasional situations where you'll be screwed if you try this, but once you take out a few people, you are good to go. While troopers and scouts shooting you? plus tanks? You make it seem like it's easy to take out an entire squad.Scout rushing is so effective,On like one map. out of 18 and it's made worse when you gain the ability to move twice during one turn! I don't have this ability, but I saw it on YouTube.That's rare. and it's a hidden potential. If anything, the other ****s should get this because they cover less ground and lag behind.That would be overpowered and i think only alicia has that potential.

Also, the grading system shouldn't be enirely based on turns. It should also have more to do with the amount of kills. I get an A Rank every time. WOW unless you are some ****ing god at this game i doubt you got an A rank on every level on your first playthrough. You're telling me you neveer madea mistake or miscalculation in any of the battles. i doubt it.

It's not like the game is terrible. The story has picked up since the time I made that one thread about the story not being original at all. I dig the symbolism with the Valkyrias being nukes and the battles modeling real life ones, but the dialogue is also really cheesy and hard to get past. i thought the dialogue was simple but not cheesy.I won't get in to the story too much because we already discussed this, and I don't want it to detract from the main thought.

Anyway, it is a bummer that you have to beat the game first in order to set the difficulty. It's too easy with the scouts, and the game is in desperate need of an overhaul. LOL. o god Still fun. I am on chapter 16, but I am about ready to finish it. Two more chapters after this.

I am not trying to bash the game, but I want to hear what you guys think about the battle system/gameplay.It seems so... Also, I am really tired, so I can't focus, and I have to wake up in five hours or something. I probably won't check back for responses until tomorrow, so I will probably see you then.

What say you?

DeathScape666

I'll be waiting for your reply.

Sounds like someone decided to cheap out and used a A rank guide to play the game, then complaining about it afterwards since they are designed to beheavily reliant on Alicia. You just cheated yourself from getting the full experience of a great game.

Sounds like someone decided to cheap out and used a A rank guide to play the game, then complaining about it afterwards since they are designed to beheavily reliant on Alicia. You just cheated yourself from getting the full experience of a great game.

Gxgear

Yeah...I don't agree with you at all. All the classes are useful and have their own role and are needed in just about every single map. Mind you I'm only on chapter 10 (One with the train)

And I've needed to use all the units for various things. I love using them all too because they all have their uses. Plus they all have personalities which gives you a sense of caring for them and not wanting to have them die on you.

Great game all together can't wait to play some more.

If you know a strat that is broken....why use it? I find it more enjoyable to figure it out on my own accord and enjoy using all my classes. I loved getting the flamethrower for my shocktroopers!Jynxzor

I personally enjoy using snipers, you can easily achievement A ranks just by having 1 or 2 snipers clear the path for your scouts or shockTs.

Planning to get the game later on this summer along Mass Effect... these are 2 great games i didnt get but wont miss this gen :)

I had the chance of watching a friend of mine playing VC and it looked fun..

Thank god for Japanese voice-acting. All I gotta say about that.

I'm not much of a strategist, so I think the game is quite hard. Honestly, my favorite units are snipers and engineers, mostly because of their versatility.

The game sucks if you abuse the broken order system, and you know what? You don't actually need to. You have essentially ruined the game for yourself by cheating and now you're complaining about it, well done.

It's certainly not a broken game, but it naturally has flaws. I'm one of the biggest fans of the game, but even I'll admit the game suffers from flaws. You can't bumrush stuff with scouts, not in the least. You really need a well-balanced squad in order to make it through the game. You may not need every single class in every single mission, but you're going to need them sooner or later.

The AI can be dumb at times, but no game is perfect. Even with the dumb AI it's still a challenging game.

If its broken, its the best broken game I have played.SpruceCaboose

I made a thread earlier in the year about how Valkyria Chronicles is almost entirely like the story of Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn, but with a few subtle differences. Anyway, this isn't the point of the thread, but I just wanted to point out that it is cliched and not a redeeming factory.

Valkyria Chronicles is a broken game. The orders and such are over-powered, and the classes are unbalanced. There isn't much use in leveling up an engineer or a sniper. You may occasionally need the lancer and shocktrooper, but you can almost entirely rely on the scouts for almost every mission. Like Welkin said, "We don't need a Valkyria to win this way!" Yeah, all we need is Alicia, Defense Boost, and Caution. Orders like these should be less effective or cost more CP total, because they are too useful for only 1 or 2 CP. Most of the time, you can use this, then rush Alicia/some other less attractive Scout to the certain point that needs capturing or something, and win the level.

This, however, isn't always the case. There are the occasional situations where you'll be screwed if you try this, but once you take out a few people, you are good to go. Scout rushing is so effective, and it's made worse when you gain the ability to move twice during one turn! I don't have this ability, but I saw it on YouTube. If anything, the other classes should get this because they cover less ground and lag behind.

Also, the grading system shouldn't be enirely based on turns. It should also have more to do with the amount of kills. I get an A Rank every time.

It's not like the game is terrible. The story has picked up since the time I made that one thread about the story not being original at all. I dig the symbolism with the Valkyrias being nukes and the battles modeling real life ones, but the dialogue is also really cheesy and hard to get past. I won't get in to the story too much because we already discussed this, and I don't want it to detract from the main thought.

Anyway, it is a bummer that you have to beat the game first in order to set the difficulty. It's too easy with the scouts, and the game is in desperate need of an overhaul. Still fun. I am on chapter 16, but I am about ready to finish it. Two more chapters after this.

I am not trying to bash the game, but I want to hear what you guys think about the battle system/gameplay. Also, I am really tired, so I can't focus, and I have to wake up in five hours or something. I probably won't check back for responses until tomorrow, so I will probably see you then.

What say you?

The game sucks if you abuse the broken order system, and you know what? You don't actually need to. You have essentially ruined the game for yourself by cheating and now you're complaining about it, well done.

WasntAvailable

Sounds like someone decided to cheap out and used a A rank guide to play the game, then complaining about it afterwards since they are designed to beheavily reliant on Alicia. You just cheated yourself from getting the full experience of a great game.

Gxgear

I love it when users think their opinion is fact. Not just on SW, but everywhere else.

I love it when users think their opinion is fact. Not just on SW, but everywhere else.

-PuLse

I always see you bashing PS3 games lately... It's a shame, you never used to. Valkyria Chronicles is by far one of the best games this gen, and in case you didn't know, there's ways in every single game, in which you can basically use a method that makes it a lot easier than using a traditional method.jonnyt61

[QUOTE="WasntAvailable"]

The game sucks if you abuse the broken order system, and you know what? You don't actually need to. You have essentially ruined the game for yourself by cheating and now you're complaining about it, well done.

DeathScape666

Hmmm, I can't say it's the exact same case. I'd rather say it's like grinding in an RPG. You can go through most RPG's without grinding, OR, you could choose to grind out of proportion, making the game too easy. That is ultimately not the game's fault, that is just a decision someone makes. It's the same with FFXII. Some people chose to exploit the Gambit system too much, when nothing said that they were to do so. It's a matter of choice in any SRPG, you choose the path yourself.

What say you?DeathScape666

I made a thread earlier in the year about how Valkyria Chronicles is almost entirely like the story of Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn, but with a few subtle differences. Anyway, this isn't the point of the thread, but I just wanted to point out that it is cliched and not a redeeming factory.

Valkyria Chronicles is a broken game. The orders and such are over-powered, and the classes are unbalanced. There isn't much use in leveling up an engineer or a sniper. You may occasionally need the lancer and shocktrooper, but you can almost entirely rely on the scouts for almost every mission. Like Welkin said, "We don't need a Valkyria to win this way!" Yeah, all we need is Alicia, Defense Boost, and Caution. Orders like these should be less effective or cost more CP total, because they are too useful for only 1 or 2 CP. Most of the time, you can use this, then rush Alicia/some other less attractive Scout to the certain point that needs capturing or something, and win the level.

This, however, isn't always the case. There are the occasional situations where you'll be screwed if you try this, but once you take out a few people, you are good to go. Scout rushing is so effective, and it's made worse when you gain the ability to move twice during one turn! I don't have this ability, but I saw it on YouTube. If anything, the other classes should get this because they cover less ground and lag behind.

Also, the grading system shouldn't be enirely based on turns. It should also have more to do with the amount of kills. I get an A Rank every time.

It's not like the game is terrible. The story has picked up since the time I made that one thread about the story not being original at all. I dig the symbolism with the Valkyrias being nukes and the battles modeling real life ones, but the dialogue is also really cheesy and hard to get past. I won't get in to the story too much because we already discussed this, and I don't want it to detract from the main thought.

Anyway, it is a bummer that you have to beat the game first in order to set the difficulty. It's too easy with the scouts, and the game is in desperate need of an overhaul. Still fun. I am on chapter 16, but I am about ready to finish it. Two more chapters after this.

I am not trying to bash the game, but I want to hear what you guys think about the battle system/gameplay. Also, I am really tired, so I can't focus, and I have to wake up in five hours or something. I probably won't check back for responses until tomorrow, so I will probably see you then.

What say you?

[QUOTE="DeathScape666"]What say you?metalgear-solid

EDIT: Mario Galaxy is a very broken game (sarcasm)

I love it when users think their opinion is fact. Not just on SW, but everywhere else.-PuLse

i cant believe people still post things like this. its like almost literally a negative post. like an intelligence black hole. sweet sig btw

anyway, maybe vc is broken, i dont know or care. its not a competitive game, which is really the only time that kind of thing matters. in a single player game, imo the 'chellenge' level is pretty much irrelevant, because in the end you're supposed to win anyway, so who cares? games where i am playing against people is another matter.

vc is the only game that made me seriously consider buying a ps3. i still sometimes think about buying one for it. cant say the same is true of any other single game/console combo this gen (though knights in the nightmare/ds is pretty close).

If you weren't up on youtube looking for cheats and exploits to the game then you'd probobly think the game is more balanced.

Name me one SRPG that isn't broken.

[QUOTE="Gxgear"]

Sounds like someone decided to cheap out and used a A rank guide to play the game, then complaining about it afterwards since they are designed to beheavily reliant on Alicia. You just cheated yourself from getting the full experience of a great game.

DeathScape666

Actually I have to disagree. Many of the stages require more than just Alicia (I didn't say scouts because it's really her that's overpowered) going commando. You still need support from tanks/shockTs/snipers/lancers, and to a lesser extent engineers.

The only reason you're complaining is because in order to achieve A ranks, the game only recognizes the number of turns the battle took. The time constraint therefore forces the player to utilize the most mobile unit: Alicia. Not only is she a scout, her extremely useful potentials combined with orders can make her virtually unstoppable. However, she's still limited in terms of taking down tanks and crouching units save for a single grenade. You can say it's "easy", but there's still trial and error involved with you're running around with scouts. No one's forcing you to scout rush unless all you're looking for is A ranks.

I made a thread earlier in the year about how Valkyria Chronicles is almost entirely like the story of Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn, but with a few subtle differences. Anyway, this isn't the point of the thread, but I just wanted to point out that it is cliched and not a redeeming factory.

Valkyria Chronicles is a broken game. The orders and such are over-powered, and the classes are unbalanced. There isn't much use in leveling up an engineer or a sniper. You may occasionally need the lancer and shocktrooper, but you can almost entirely rely on the scouts for almost every mission. Like Welkin said, "We don't need a Valkyria to win this way!" Yeah, all we need is Alicia, Defense Boost, and Caution. Orders like these should be less effective or cost more CP total, because they are too useful for only 1 or 2 CP. Most of the time, you can use this, then rush Alicia/some other less attractive Scout to the certain point that needs capturing or something, and win the level.

This, however, isn't always the case. There are the occasional situations where you'll be screwed if you try this, but once you take out a few people, you are good to go. Scout rushing is so effective, and it's made worse when you gain the ability to move twice during one turn! I don't have this ability, but I saw it on YouTube. If anything, the other classes should get this because they cover less ground and lag behind.

Also, the grading system shouldn't be enirely based on turns. It should also have more to do with the amount of kills. I get an A Rank every time.

It's not like the game is terrible. The story has picked up since the time I made that one thread about the story not being original at all. I dig the symbolism with the Valkyrias being nukes and the battles modeling real life ones, but the dialogue is also really cheesy and hard to get past. I won't get in to the story too much because we already discussed this, and I don't want it to detract from the main thought.

Anyway, it is a bummer that you have to beat the game first in order to set the difficulty. It's too easy with the scouts, and the game is in desperate need of an overhaul. Still fun. I am on chapter 16, but I am about ready to finish it. Two more chapters after this.

I am not trying to bash the game, but I want to hear what you guys think about the battle system/gameplay. Also, I am really tired, so I can't focus, and I have to wake up in five hours or something. I probably won't check back for responses until tomorrow, so I will probably see you then.

What say you?

I play games to have fun. I very much liked VC.

I suppose I could have bum rushed scouts all over. Just like I could have used the exploit to complete Oblivion in minutes. Or I could do a speed run through innumerable shooters. Or I could exploit various things like infinite gold in RPGs.

But I guess I am odd, so I played it the way it was meant to be played. Not the way it could be played.

Your loss, not mine.

Interesting read, I bought the game and played it for a few hours when it first came out but I just dont feel like playing it anymore. Perhaps eventually I will pick it up again