Bottom line: if you want to abuse scouts you can, but you're denying yourself from getting any enjoyment from the game. But feel free to blame the game being "broken".
Valkyria Chronicles is a broken game.
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In that video, he didn't kill Selvaria with a Scout, he did the killing blow with the Shocktrooper, and now I know how. First of all, he exploited the insanely stupid AI that doesn't recapture points, moves useless units, and wastes CP by not using a single unit more than 2 times per turn. Second, I had no idea how overpowered Awaken All was, because I'd never used it before. No wonder. Does hard mode fix any of the AI issues?BrownesqueAh, really sorry about that. To be honest, I didn't watch that video, but I have watched some others. My bad again. I should have watched it to make sure. I'm so dumb! But anyway, a lot of the other videos involve him scout rushing. But I swear to God I did beat Selvaria in two turns. My Scouts were level 14, I think, and Alicia had a really powerful Rifle. I didn't use Awaken All, by the way, but the Damage Boost helps.
[QUOTE="DeathScape666"][QUOTE="Gxgear"]
Sounds like someone decided to cheap out and used a A rank guide to play the game, then complaining about it afterwards since they are designed to beheavily reliant on Alicia. You just cheated yourself from getting the full experience of a great game.
No, the scout rush technique is pretty much known all over the Valkyria Chronicles board. As long as you know how effective Defense Boost and Caution is on a Scout, you don't need a guide. The rest is just figuring out the best route to take. So no guide, really. Hell, there's people on those boards that create these absurd challenges for themselves because the game is way too easy.Actually I have to disagree. Many of the stages require more than just Alicia (I didn't say scouts because it's really her that's overpowered) going commando. You still need support from tanks/shockTs/snipers/lancers, and to a lesser extent engineers.
The only reason you're complaining is because in order to achieve A ranks, the game only recognizes the number of turns the battle took. The time constraint therefore forces the player to utilize the most mobile unit: Alicia. Not only is she a scout, her extremely useful potentials combined with orders can make her virtually unstoppable. However, she's still limited in terms of taking down tanks and crouching units save for a single grenade. You can say it's "easy", but there's still trial and error involved with you're running around with scouts. No one's forcing you to scout rush unless all you're looking for is A ranks.
You do have to take out some enemies in some chapters, I admit, but you can run past a lot of the enemies. The AI is stupid in this game, and I have seen them KILL EACH OTHER! Sometimes they don't even attack you even if you are right next to them.I'll give that the AI can be very stupid and that fact alone saved me in a lot of missions, but I developed my own strategies for each mission, rather than looking at a guide (which I tend to do for games) and I had a great time. I was frustrated at some points, and had to repeat battles, but that was my choice. I can't fault anyone for reading a guide, and going for A rank right away. I feel that detracts from the game experience and doesn't give you a real sense of the quality of that game. Just my opinion, like you have yours.
[QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"][QUOTE="DeathScape666"]
I made a thread earlier in the year about how Valkyria Chronicles is almost entirely like the story of Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn, but with a few subtle differences. Anyway, this isn't the point of the thread, but I just wanted to point out that it is cliched and not a redeeming factory.
Valkyria Chronicles is a broken game. The orders and such are over-powered, and the classes are unbalanced. There isn't much use in leveling up an engineer or a sniper. You may occasionally need the lancer and shocktrooper, but you can almost entirely rely on the scouts for almost every mission. Like Welkin said, "We don't need a Valkyria to win this way!" Yeah, all we need is Alicia, Defense Boost, and Caution. Orders like these should be less effective or cost more CP total, because they are too useful for only 1 or 2 CP. Most of the time, you can use this, then rush Alicia/some other less attractive Scout to the certain point that needs capturing or something, and win the level.
This, however, isn't always the case. There are the occasional situations where you'll be screwed if you try this, but once you take out a few people, you are good to go. Scout rushing is so effective, and it's made worse when you gain the ability to move twice during one turn! I don't have this ability, but I saw it on YouTube. If anything, the other classes should get this because they cover less ground and lag behind.
Also, the grading system shouldn't be enirely based on turns. It should also have more to do with the amount of kills. I get an A Rank every time.
It's not like the game is terrible. The story has picked up since the time I made that one thread about the story not being original at all. I dig the symbolism with the Valkyrias being nukes and the battles modeling real life ones, but the dialogue is also really cheesy and hard to get past. I won't get in to the story too much because we already discussed this, and I don't want it to detract from the main thought.
Anyway, it is a bummer that you have to beat the game first in order to set the difficulty. It's too easy with the scouts, and the game is in desperate need of an overhaul. Still fun. I am on chapter 16, but I am about ready to finish it. Two more chapters after this.
I am not trying to bash the game, but I want to hear what you guys think about the battle system/gameplay. Also, I am really tired, so I can't focus, and I have to wake up in five hours or something. I probably won't check back for responses until tomorrow, so I will probably see you then.
What say you?
Brownesque
I'm not a SRPG enthuiast, so I can't comment too much on how balanced the battle system is (I personally get the most use of out of my Shocktroopers).But as someone who hasn't played many SRPG's and can't get into most of them, I find the game to be fantastic (which shows the game has a good amount of appeal outside the SRPG genre). It's easily one of my favorite games this gen.Fantastic visuals, an extremely good mix between accessibility and depth, a clever use of real-time movement, a very pleasent story, etc. It's a very great package.
BTW, I stuck on a certain battle right now, so I'm going to try your Scout Rushing technique. ;)
Which battle is that in particular?I think I'm on Episode 14, so it would be the battle in that chapter.
This is most certainly a false statement.
[QUOTE="Gxgear"]No, the scout rush technique is pretty much known all over the Valkyria Chronicles board. As long as you know how effective Defense Boost and Caution is on a Scout, you don't need a guide. The rest is just figuring out the best route to take. So no guide, really. Hell, there's people on those boards that create these absurd challenges for themselves because the game is way too easy. Dude, you basically did use a guide. You went on a board where everyone in it is basically pros at the game and they all discuss tactics and strategies of missions. You spoiled the game for yourself just looking in that board while you didnt even finish the game yet. Every game is exploitable if you play the game long enough. You see this is your first playthrough and your already getting tips and tricks from people who have already finished the game and know all the ins and outs of the game just by visiting that board. you ruined it yourself :lol:Sounds like someone decided to cheap out and used a A rank guide to play the game, then complaining about it afterwards since they are designed to beheavily reliant on Alicia. You just cheated yourself from getting the full experience of a great game.
DeathScape666
EDIT: and im still waiting for my reply. :)
they should break all the games then, because valkyria chronicles is one of my favorite game ever
[QUOTE="DeathScape666"][QUOTE="Gxgear"]
Sounds like someone decided to cheap out and used a A rank guide to play the game, then complaining about it afterwards since they are designed to beheavily reliant on Alicia. You just cheated yourself from getting the full experience of a great game.
No, the scout rush technique is pretty much known all over the Valkyria Chronicles board. As long as you know how effective Defense Boost and Caution is on a Scout, you don't need a guide. The rest is just figuring out the best route to take. So no guide, really. Hell, there's people on those boards that create these absurd challenges for themselves because the game is way too easy. Dude, you basically did use a guide. You went on a board where everyone in it is basically pros at the game and they all discuss tactics and strategies of missions. You spoiled the game for yourself just looking in that board while you didnt even finish the game yet. Every game is exploitable if you play the game long enough. You see this is your first playthrough and your already getting tips and tricks from people who have already finished the game and know all the ins and outs of the game just by visiting that board. you ruined it yourself :lol:EDIT: and im still waiting for my reply. :)
I go on boards to discuss the game all the time. It's not like I plan to stumble across tactics that ruin the game for me. Even so, all I heard was how effective Alicia rushing, defense boost, and caution is. It's not like they mapped me up the route. I always view the boards for the game I currently playing. There is almost never a cheap tactic to beating the game, so I don't expect to come across anything but discussion. On top of that, I had my classes pretty evened out up until level 9. Once I got there, I started to over-power my Scout class, with Shockertroopers and Lancers are little far behind, and the Engineers and Snipers a little far behind those classes. By the way, I am on chapter 18 now. You could say that the enemies are so heavily armed and high in numbers, but the smoke grenade plus scout rushing worked wonders. :) I used multiple scouts this time around, since they aren't that much less powerful that Shocktroopers. I did use Rosie for one part, though. But yeah, if the Eidelweiss didn't have the smoke grenade, I would've had to work a bit harder, but even then, the enemy tank actually made it easier because he constantly shout off smoke grenades that gave me the advantage! Also, the fire grenade that goes up in the air that the scouts have are godly. It gets them out of cover, and then you take 'em out the next turn. I didn't directly reply to your post, considering you stated mostly what other people had in a different way. I felt I addressed everything you pointed out, but if there is something else I missed, just let me know.[QUOTE="Brownesque"][QUOTE="Tragic_Kingdom7"]
I'm not a SRPG enthuiast, so I can't comment too much on how balanced the battle system is (I personally get the most use of out of my Shocktroopers).But as someone who hasn't played many SRPG's and can't get into most of them, I find the game to be fantastic (which shows the game has a good amount of appeal outside the SRPG genre). It's easily one of my favorite games this gen.Fantastic visuals, an extremely good mix between accessibility and depth, a clever use of real-time movement, a very pleasent story, etc. It's a very great package.
BTW, I stuck on a certain battle right now, so I'm going to try your Scout Rushing technique. ;)
Which battle is that in particular?I think I'm on Episode 14, so it would be the battle in that chapter.
You'll have to use lancers on this level due to the two tanks you have to take out, but it should be relatively easy with the smoke grenades. You can get it done in two turns, but honestly, the Scouts don't help much in this chapter. The two battles in chapter 15, on the other hand, makes things EXTREMELY easy. You can finish the first battle in that chapter in one turn, and the second one in two turns. If you need help with this battle, just let me know. I'd be more than happy to let you know what I did. :)i didn't know you can save your game when in battle. so, i finished the game without loading any battle data. just on book mode. lmao. so silly of me.
[QUOTE="Evolved_One"]Dude, you basically did use a guide. You went on a board where everyone in it is basically pros at the game and they all discuss tactics and strategies of missions. You spoiled the game for yourself just looking in that board while you didnt even finish the game yet. Every game is exploitable if you play the game long enough. You see this is your first playthrough and your already getting tips and tricks from people who have already finished the game and know all the ins and outs of the game just by visiting that board. you ruined it yourself :lol:[QUOTE="DeathScape666"] No, the scout rush technique is pretty much known all over the Valkyria Chronicles board. As long as you know how effective Defense Boost and Caution is on a Scout, you don't need a guide. The rest is just figuring out the best route to take. So no guide, really. Hell, there's people on those boards that create these absurd challenges for themselves because the game is way too easy.DeathScape666
EDIT: and im still waiting for my reply. :)
I go on boards to discuss the game all the time. It's not like I plan to stumble across tactics that ruin the game for me. Even so, all I heard was how effective Alicia rushing, defense boost, and caution is. It's not like they mapped me up the route. I always view the boards for the game I currently playing. There is almost never a cheap tactic to beating the game, so I don't expect to come across anything but discussion. On top of that, I had my classes pretty evened out up until level 9. Once I got there, I started to over-power my Scout class, with Shockertroopers and Lancers are little far behind, and the Engineers and Snipers a little far behind those classes. By the way, I am on chapter 18 now. You could say that the enemies are so heavily armed and high in numbers, but the smoke grenade plus scout rushing worked wonders. :) I used multiple scouts this time around, since they aren't that much less powerful that Shocktroopers. I did use Rosie for one part, though. But yeah, if the Eidelweiss didn't have the smoke grenade, I would've had to work a bit harder, but even then, the enemy tank actually made it easier because he constantly shout off smoke grenades that gave me the advantage! Also, the fire grenade that goes up in the air that the scouts have are godly. It gets them out of cover, and then you take 'em out the next turn. I didn't directly reply to your post, considering you stated mostly what other people had in a different way. I felt I addressed everything you pointed out, but if there is something else I missed, just let me know.None of your excuses matter.
It doesn't matter whether you bought a guide, stumbled on to this innocently, or not, on a board, or discovered it for yourself.
You don't have to play that way. You ruined the game for yourself and you have no one to blame but yourself.
You can basically do a mad dash, speed run through lots of games and it isn't that hard to figure that out. But why do that?
Knowing what you know, why do you choose to continue playing that way? That's the question you should ask.
[QUOTE="Evolved_One"]Dude, you basically did use a guide. You went on a board where everyone in it is basically pros at the game and they all discuss tactics and strategies of missions. You spoiled the game for yourself just looking in that board while you didnt even finish the game yet. Every game is exploitable if you play the game long enough. You see this is your first playthrough and your already getting tips and tricks from people who have already finished the game and know all the ins and outs of the game just by visiting that board. you ruined it yourself :lol:[QUOTE="DeathScape666"] No, the scout rush technique is pretty much known all over the Valkyria Chronicles board. As long as you know how effective Defense Boost and Caution is on a Scout, you don't need a guide. The rest is just figuring out the best route to take. So no guide, really. Hell, there's people on those boards that create these absurd challenges for themselves because the game is way too easy.DeathScape666
EDIT: and im still waiting for my reply. :)
I go on boards to discuss the game all the time. It's not like I plan to stumble across tactics that ruin the game for me. Even so, all I heard was how effective Alicia rushing, defense boost, and caution is. It's not like they mapped me up the route. I always view the boards for the game I currently playing. There is almost never a cheap tactic to beating the game, so I don't expect to come across anything but discussion. On top of that, I had my classes pretty evened out up until level 9. Once I got there, I started to over-power my Scout class, with Shockertroopers and Lancers are little far behind, and the Engineers and Snipers a little far behind those classes. By the way, I am on chapter 18 now. You could say that the enemies are so heavily armed and high in numbers, but the smoke grenade plus scout rushing worked wonders. :) I used multiple scouts this time around, since they aren't that much less powerful that Shocktroopers. I did use Rosie for one part, though. But yeah, if the Eidelweiss didn't have the smoke grenade, I would've had to work a bit harder, but even then, the enemy tank actually made it easier because he constantly shout off smoke grenades that gave me the advantage! Also, the fire grenade that goes up in the air that the scouts have are godly. It gets them out of cover, and then you take 'em out the next turn. I didn't directly reply to your post, considering you stated mostly what other people had in a different way. I felt I addressed everything you pointed out, but if there is something else I missed, just let me know.Still the point is you used a little known trick in the game and now you're calling the game broken because of it. I'll admit that the orders are a bit overpowered but you can't call the gaem broken because it. broken is like when the game has a flaw or glitch or soemthing which renders it unplayable. Anyways it's hard for me to believe that you know how to utilize scouts that well. they only have one grenade and not a whole lot of health. and its not like while you take out the squad theyre not shooting at you. caution and def boost dont make them invincible and when its the enemies turn its easy for them to finish off your already damaged scout.
You said theres not much use to lvl up engineers or snipers. please elaborate on that.
you said that you can rely on scouts on almost every mission. I don't know if you mean they are a reliable class (of course thay are every class is reliable) or you meant that you can just use scouts to ocmplete the mission (which is just gonna make the mission harder for you and stupid)
You say all you need is alicia caution adn def boost. you make it sound so simple and easy. like all you do is assign the orders and find a route and auto win. well finding a good route isnt easy. ive tried it before and ive reloaded the games many times.
you say you get A rank everytime. and this is your first playthrough. you are saying you anticipated every move and knew where all the enimies were at on your first playthrough. you sir are a liar. i highly doubt you got an a on every mission so far. unless u are some mind reader.
u say the game needs a major over haul. tell me what would you change about the game that would make this game perfect.
[QUOTE="WasntAvailable"]So you admit that the Order System is broken? Yeah, the game should have been penalized for that. I should be able to use everything the game offers me in my disposal to receive a challenge. That's like saying the Cave of Ordeals in Twilight Princess is hard if you have one fourth of a hear the entire cave. Sure, if you have all hearts it's extremely easy, but then you are "cheating yourself out of a challenge," as you say. I applied the same logic. You basically just told me to create the challenge for myself by limiting what the actions I take in game.The game sucks if you abuse the broken order system, and you know what? You don't actually need to. You have essentially ruined the game for yourself by cheating and now you're complaining about it, well done.
DeathScape666
It's an exploit, I doubt you figured it out yourself. I didn't. What did you just get bored one day and decide to try a bunch of orders at random and found it made you invincible? It's your fault for reading a walkthrough.
EDIT: I'm playing Morrowind at the moment. There's a funny exploit that lets you level up really quickly. Basically because I'm a big cheat, and my character ran like a snail (Jumping ftw. It was faster.) I used this exploit to make the game easier. Does this mean that the game should be penalised because I took addvantage of it's design? No, it just means I'm a cheat, and I don't care. You on the other hand used an exploit and found yourself worse off for it and blamed the game for it. That is your fault because it is your actions that caused the game to be less enjoyable. There's a diffrence between playing the way the developers intended and exploting the design of a game.
EDIT 2: I used the exploit in VC aswell. It actually made getting the Hard A ranks alot more fun.
So you admit that the Order System is broken? Yeah, the game should have been penalized for that. I should be able to use everything the game offers me in my disposal to receive a challenge. That's like saying the Cave of Ordeals in Twilight Princess is hard if you have one fourth of a hear the entire cave. Sure, if you have all hearts it's extremely easy, but then you are "cheating yourself out of a challenge," as you say. I applied the same logic. You basically just told me to create the challenge for myself by limiting what the actions I take in game.[QUOTE="DeathScape666"][QUOTE="WasntAvailable"]
The game sucks if you abuse the broken order system, and you know what? You don't actually need to. You have essentially ruined the game for yourself by cheating and now you're complaining about it, well done.
WasntAvailable
It's an exploit, I doubt you figured it out yourself. I didn't. What did you just get bored one day and decide to try a bunch of orders at random and found it made you invincible? It's your fault for reading a walkthrough.
I don't think it was a walkthrough but one of countless videos of achieving an A rank on youtube. even though that exploit is not a game breaker. he has no proof to call this gaem broken.[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]If its broken, its the best broken game I have played.DelsageWell spoken.
i agree too, best broken game, with one of the best stories ever..wow, i like broken games :D !! yay !
I have yet to play it, but I'm going give it the demo a chance. I'll post my thoughts later. CleanPlayer
dude, the demo does no justice to the final game...the best way to give the game a chance, is renting it at least...believe me...the demo does no justice !!!
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[QUOTE="DeathScape666"]
I made a thread earlier in the year about how Valkyria Chronicles is almost entirely like the story of Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn, but with a few subtle differences. Anyway, this isn't the point of the thread, but I just wanted to point out that it is cliched and not a redeeming factory.
Valkyria Chronicles is a broken game. The orders and such are over-powerei, I agree, but not to a point where the game is broken. and the ****s are unbalanced. LOL, no. There isn't much use in leveling up an engineer or a sniper.Uh your gonna need to level up your engineer. First the tank is a key unit for almost all missions and it's bound to get damaged. So you're gonna need it to be repaired by the engineer. Second, snipers and lancers needammo refilling. and removing mines and repairing sandbags for cover. and the enginner needs to do all this without being killed, and if you don't lvl up your enginner then your screwed as no oneelse can do waht the enginner does. plus enginners make good scouts kinda they can run far. AND SNIPERS FREAKING OWN, how can you not lvl them up they can take out units across the map with a well placed shot, and everytime you lvl snipers the circle thing gets smaller and smaller soits basically 90% guranteeed kill right there.And what's the point of leveling up these other units whenyou can do perfectly fine with just scouts? If I leveled upindividual units in Fire Emblem, I'd get crushed. I shouldn't be able to leave my other units at a low level, while acing through the game with having high powered scouts.You may occasionally need the lancer and shocktrooper, No you need them both for most missions almost all the time.but you can almost entirely rely on the scouts for almost every mission. HAHAHA can scouts take out troopers? can scouts take out troopers by themself?Yes, the most definitely can. I'm not sure what to really say here. I can prove they can with a few YouTube videos. A few shots to the head are more than enough. The AIis stupid to the point of where they shoot each other during battle, that itreally isn't too big of a problem hiding the next turn. You want YouTube videos proving it? I'll show you.Like Welkin said, "We don't need a Valkyria to win this way!" Yeah, all we need is Alicia, Defense Boost, and Caution.LOL, ru kidding me? sure scouts are important but they can't do everything. you can do that only on that one mission where you take the city back with the windmill. show me anoter map you can do that.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8UwS3mBJ38&feature=PlayList&p=57C9714488CAFDA6&index=17OrYou lose. ders like these should be less effective or cost more CP total, because they are too useful for only 1 or 2 CP. Disagreeed.Really? How about you check the damn video I just presented you and see how wrong you really are. Most of the time, you can use this, then rush Alicia/some other less attractive Scout to the certain point that needs capturing or something, and win the level.LOL ok i dont even think you even played the game and just watched people play it on youtube. Baseless assumptions are fun.
This, however, isn't always the case. There are the occasional situations where you'll be screwed if you try this, but once you take out a few people, you are good to go. While troopers and scouts shooting you? plus tanks? You make it seem like it's easy to take out an entire squad.Learn how effective Defense Boost and Caution is, and then tell me that. Scout rushing is so effective,On like one map. out of 18Except I have tons of YouTube videos to prove you wrong. and it's made worse when you gain the ability to move twice during one turn! I don't have this ability, but I saw it on YouTube.That's rare. and it's a hidden potential.You don't even need it with the game being as easy as it is. If anything, the other ****s should get this because they cover less ground and lag behind.That would be overpowered and i think only alicia has that potential.
Also, the grading system shouldn't be enirely based on turns. It should also have more to do with the amount of kills. I get an A Rank every time. WOW unless you are some ****ing god at this game i doubt you got an A rank on every level on your first playthrough. You're telling me you neveer madea mistake or miscalculation in any of the battles. i doubt it. I certainly did. It didn't dramatically effect the flow of battle, though. Also, no, I never said I got an A rank on every mission; most, though.
It's not like the game is terrible. The story has picked up since the time I made that one thread about the story not being original at all. I dig the symbolism with the Valkyrias being nukes and the battles modeling real life ones, but the dialogue is also really cheesy and hard to get past. i thought the dialogue was simple but not cheesy.Did you also like the laughing scene in Final Fantasy X? I won't get in to the story too much because we already discussed this, and I don't want it to detract from the main thought.
Anyway, it is a bummer that you have to beat the game first in order to set the difficulty. It's too easy with the scouts, and the game is in desperate need of an overhaul. LOL. o godIt's not my fault you don't know how to use the most effective strategies. I'm not trying to insult you at all. It isn't bad at all if you are weak at strategy games (not saying you are), but don't go around acting like you know all about the game when you clearly don't. Still fun. I am on chapter 16, but I am about ready to finish it. Two more chapters after this.
I am not trying to bash the game, but I want to hear what you guys think about the battle system/gameplay.It seems so... Also, I am really tired, so I can't focus, and I have to wake up in five hours or something. I probably won't check back for responses until tomorrow, so I will probably see you then.
What say you?
I'll be waiting for your reply.
http://www.youtube.com/user/TJazZ1337
Here's the link to the easy wins, buddy.
The only thing about VC that is broken is its sucking switch
I want you personally to ask that Youtube user if he got all these easy wins ON HIS FIRST PLAY THROUGH and come back to me and tell me what he said.
you just said "Also, no, I never said I got an A rank on every mission; most, though."
Earlier you said "I get an A Rank every time".
what the ****? Am i reading this wrong? Whay are you so bent on hating this game? Why? because it's not on the Wii?
you're a liar. I do not believe you foresaw every battle changing moment that happened, and knew where each and every enemy was hidden, and knew how each and every objective changed. and pulled off A ranks. and knew which path to take in scout rushing. All this on your first playthrough.
AND EVEN IF YOU DID, You have no right to call VC a broken game. because if you pulled all the miraculous **** on your first playthrough, then you Deathscape666 are some kind of psychic gaming god. beacuse not everyone is a gaming god like you.
or i should say not everyone watched a youtube walkthrough video before playing the game.
This did not turn out well for you, TC.
The only thing about VC that is broken is its sucking switch
VendettaRed07
Eloquent. Lol.
so you are basically a cheater,you like cheating at games.........there are almost always ways in games to make them easier,if you buy a game and follow a guide to finish it or youtube videos then whatever i find that pathetic....
the thing is i have the game and so do other 2 friends of mine and we all had different ways of playing the game,i used snipers/shocktroopers/lancers only for the whole game while a friend only the tanks/engineer/lancers my other friend had a mix of all.its up to you how to play the game.its like saying in suikoden 2 you move the door and get 20lvls ahead of the game.....would you do it without a guide ?maybe but 95 out of 100 wouldnt and would enjoy the game more than you exploiting a cheap tactic.
this game is awesome it has even cheap tactics for super easy nintendo mario miyamoto guide fans like you.you want to exploit the cheap tactics go ahead,personally i didnt use any order till chapter 18 and neither an ingame save till chapter 14..for me this game was brutal difficult and i enjoyed it .
It's an old thread Sly he bashed the gameplay back then and is now bashing the story. forgive me but I'm the one who brought it up again. It just annoys me how he repeatedly bashes on a great game for no good reason.I wish you would stop talking about the game, every other post you make is a complain about Valkyria Chronicles. We get it you dont like the game, now go and blog it please.
Slywolf10
If its broken, its the best broken game I have played.SpruceCaboosei love u :) (just becuase of the post)
Yeah, but it's incredibly fun, by far the best SRPG ever, there isn't a single one that is COMPLETELY balanced, so it's not as though VC is suddenly terrible amongst the other top SRPG's.
Whay are you so bent on hating this game? Why? because it's not on the Wii?
Evolved_One
I wouldn't be surprised
I want you personally to ask that Youtube user if he got all these easy wins ON HIS FIRST PLAY THROUGH and come back to me and tell me what he said.
you just said "Also, no, I never said I got an A rank on every mission; most, though."
Earlier you said "I get an A Rank every time".
what the ****? Am i reading this wrong? Whay are you so bent on hating this game? Why? because it's not on the Wii?
you're a liar. I do not believe you foresaw every battle changing moment that happened, and knew where each and every enemy was hidden, and knew how each and every objective changed. and pulled off A ranks. and knew which path to take in scout rushing. All this on your first playthrough.
AND EVEN IF YOU DID, You have no right to call VC a broken game. because if you pulled all the miraculous **** on your first playthrough, then you Deathscape666 are some kind of psychic gaming god. beacuse not everyone is a gaming god like you.
or i should say not everyone watched a youtube walkthrough video before playing the game.
That's because I hadn't beaten the entire game yet when I made this post... And even then, I don't know if I got an A rank on every mission. If you would kindly point where I said I got an A rank on EVERY mission, I will gladly admit I contradicted myself. No, no, no, and NO! See? You are thinking I watched that YouTube video. All I did was find out how effective the Order system is in the Valkyria Chronicles board, and from there, it was easy as pie. I don't need those videos to ace the game. Do you really think it's that hard to find out the correct path you go? Not really. It doesn't take a genius to figure out the best tactics. It becomes rather obvious which path to take. And even if you do take the wrong path, your scouts can take in so much damage that it doesn't matter, anyway. Yes, there have been miscalculations, as I stated before. But most of my team made up of scouts, so I could have one go in and test the grounds. Or I would just load up the save again.
If its broken, its the best broken game I have played.SpruceCaboosethis as awell I started playing it yesterday and it is absolutely freakin fantastic
Don't FEED the cave t---- HES EATING ME, HELP!I'm with Spruce on this one. If that's truly what you believe then it's gotta' be the greatest broken game ever.
EDIT: This is your 3rd whinefest about this game. If it's such a horrible, broken game then do everyone a favor and STOP PLAYING IT.
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Dude. "I get an A rank every time" and "I get an A rank on every mission" is basically the same thing. What if i say "hey man I make 10 points every time" wouldn't it be the same thing as saying "I make ten points every game"? your logic fails.
And why did you say "I got an A rank every time" when you weren't sure you even got A rank every time? WTF? Did you lie in your OP to make the game sound easier than it really was?
You say it's easy to find a correct path to rush with scouts. Okay, i guess it can be. but what about the hidden enemies? How about the game changing moments and the objective changes? How did you foresee that? Again on your FIRST PLAYTHROUGH.if you just loaded up another game save when you effed up then how the hell can you call the game broken adn so damn easy. how can you say "OMG SO EZ GUIZ! ALL U NEED TO DO IS SCOUT RUSH" when you all u did was loaded a game save when u ****ed up on scout rushing. Your tactic in beating this game was scout rush, if u eff up load gaem save, scout rush. how fun and not tedious and so dang easy.
And how did your scouts take out tanks? since scouts have so much running distance they would be leaving your fellow lancers across the map. that demolition order would work but that takes 4 cp away. and def boost doesnt make you invincible. the tanks with MGs and troopers and scouts guarding the enemy flags would tear you to shreds even with def boost and caution. just not as quickly. you gotta take out all of them with one scout. by then taking out ur 3rd enemy would leave u with barely any running distance. And not every mission is capturing flags. you destroy heavily armored vehicles with MGs mounted on them. and how did you deal with the inaccuracy of your lancers when you seemed to not by lvling them up.
you know, i want you to post your OP in thread in the VC gamefaqs board and let them show you how wrong you are.It proably belongs there more than it belongs in SW.
Because there's an exploit in a game doesn't mean the game is broken. And even if you did play the game just by scout rushing, which I think you're lying about just to bash the game, then you have robbed yourself from having fun in a great game.
and don't try to eat up your words.
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