Valkyria Chronicles is not possible on the Xbox 360 - Sega of Japan

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#51 usule
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Yeah and super mario bros 1 isn't possible on the 360 either...
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#52 Phazevariance
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... because Valkyria Chronicles uses LPCM 5.1, it is not capable on the Xbox 360 since it is not capable of LPCM 5.1AntiCrimeSpot6
Totally possible, just compress and voila! dolby digital 5.1
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#53 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="AntiCrimeSpot6"][QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="AntiCrimeSpot6"] Yes, when you experience LPCM 5.1 (Or Dolby TrueHD or DTS HD-MA), you are experiencing lossless audio, the way the studio master is intended to be heard.

Why do you keep saying LPCM 5.1? You know that's not the only way to get HD sound right? I'd rather use bitstream but unfortunately the Ps3 can't do it.

You don't need to bitstream. PS3 decodes both Dolby TrueHD and DTS HD-MA. Also, when you bitstream, you can't mix primary audio with secondary audio.

Yes I know. Point is there is no need to mention LPCM every time. With the point you're trying to make just say HD sound so you stop confusing everyone who doesn't understand this stuff.
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#54 donalbane
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This is without a doubt one of the most poorly constucted, intellectually dishonest arguments for console superiority that I have ever read here, and that's really saying something.
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#55 IIJuggaNottII
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[QUOTE="IIJuggaNottII"]What level of concern should we have about Valkyria Chronicles....is it even selling on the PS3? Squall18

yikes, haha, that was a low blow, haha

:lol:

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#56 Chutebox
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This is without a doubt one of the most poorly constucted, intellectually dishonest arguments for console superiority that I have ever read here, and that's really saying something.donalbane
Well, it is a stupid argument. But the HD sound is a really big reason why I do prefer Ps3 over 360. But this thread is silly, agree with ya there!
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#57 heretrix
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I guess if I ever muted a game that it in turn ruins the entire experience to such a degree that it's equivalent to not even being possible of being played. :?-RPGamer-

Yeah, it's not like the game's subtitles are of any use.........Wait a minute...

And isn't it a strategy JRPG? With lots of dialog boxes? I THINK that's what the large boxes with words in them are in my game..

Some of these threads........:lol:

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#58 3picuri3
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This is without a doubt one of the most poorly constucted, intellectually dishonest arguments for console superiority that I have ever read here, and that's really saying something.donalbane
no kidding eh. this is a head-scratcher for sure :)
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#59 heretrix
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[QUOTE="AntiCrimeSpot6"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] Why do you keep saying LPCM 5.1? You know that's not the only way to get HD sound right? I'd rather use bitstream but unfortunately the Ps3 can't do it.Chutebox
You don't need to bitstream. PS3 decodes both Dolby TrueHD and DTS HD-MA. Also, when you bitstream, you can't mix primary audio with secondary audio.

Yes I know. Point is there is no need to mention LPCM every time. With the point you're trying to make just say HD sound so you stop confusing everyone who doesn't understand this stuff.

Since he's very confused himself, I'm not sure it's possible. It's like a paperboy trying to tell a baker how to operate a Formula one car.
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#60 killab2oo5
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You give a bad name to all level 1 posters. On-topic...even a novice could re-encode audio. Who,besides audio freaks, will notice the difference between "LPCM 5.1" audio and Dobly Digital 5.1" audio?
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#61 3picuri3
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well he seems to have disappeared. i guess he realized how silly this all was :P shame, this was gettin fun.
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#62 AntiCrimeSpot6
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[QUOTE="killab2oo5"]You give a bad name to all level 1 posters. On-topic...even a novice could re-encode audio. Who,besides audio freaks, will notice the difference between "LPCM 5.1" audio and Dobly Digital 5.1" audio?

You could, but it would not be HD. It is easy to hear the difference between LPCM 5.1/Dolby TrueHD/DTS HD-MA and Dolby Digital
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#63 Salt_The_Fries
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[QUOTE="AntiCrimeSpot6"][QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="AntiCrimeSpot6"] Xbox 360 is only capable of LPCM 2.0, Dolby Digital and DTS. All Lossy.

please do a bit more reading. and even if some of them have extremely minor loss-rates how does that make the game not possible on the 360? do you realize how incredibly easy it is to manipulate and re-encode audio? i do :).

Except it wouldn't be TrueHD anymore without lossless audio.

And the PS3 is the only TrueHD (TM) system out there. Yes, we know.
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#64 AntiCrimeSpot6
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And as Sega has stated, it would not be their vision of VC. There is a reason why Dolby Digital isn't even included on the PS3 version of VC.
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#65 Trigger_Hppy
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This argument fails on so many levels that its hard to comprehend, but everyone already said that. So I guess I'm just here to mock the TC. TC, seriously, let it go. Its not even funny if you don't think of better arguments.
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#66 heretrix
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[QUOTE="AntiCrimeSpot6"][QUOTE="3picuri3"] please do a bit more reading. and even if some of them have extremely minor loss-rates how does that make the game not possible on the 360? do you realize how incredibly easy it is to manipulate and re-encode audio? i do :).Salt_The_Fries
Except it wouldn't be TrueHD anymore without lossless audio.

And the PS3 is the only TrueHD (TM) system out there. Yes, we know.

I love how people use that term "trueHD" as if it's something other than a marketing term for 8 channel audio.
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#67 Salt_The_Fries
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In other news, Crytek said that Crysis won't be possible on PS3 and 360, because they suck.
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#68 remiks00
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Valkyria Chronicles is an awesome game! But saying that "It can't be done on the 360" because of the sound is just a piss poor arguement. System Wars is an exciting place,...you never know what idiots will say next...:roll:
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#69 wiistation360
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and the ps3 cannot play tetris on the 360.teh cell fails
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#70 tikki25x
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TC you deserve to get clowned for that rediculous baseless post. im sure they could reencode the audio without losing too much quality. links to this mysterious article might help a little too.
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#71 player_leo
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The logic in the threads today makes me scratch my head and say, why god, why?
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#72 donalbane
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[QUOTE="Salt_The_Fries"][QUOTE="AntiCrimeSpot6"] Except it wouldn't be TrueHD anymore without lossless audio.heretrix
And the PS3 is the only TrueHD (TM) system out there. Yes, we know.

I love how people use that term "trueHD" as if it's something other than a marketing term for 8 channel audio.

I love how people forgot that we've been playing 'HD' games on our PCs since the 90's.
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#73 tikki25x
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thats an excellent observation. i guess PC moniters have been in HD for years.
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#74 AirGuitarist87
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and the ps3 cannot play tetris on the 360.teh cell failswiistation360
That makes nae sense sir.
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[QUOTE="wiistation360"]and the ps3 cannot play tetris on the 360.teh cell failsAirGuitarist87
That makes nae sense sir.

how about this one the ps3 cant run duck hunt nes>>>>ps3
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#76 AirGuitarist87
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[QUOTE="AirGuitarist87"][QUOTE="wiistation360"]and the ps3 cannot play tetris on the 360.teh cell failssurrealnumber5
That makes nae sense sir.

how about this one the ps3 cant run duck hunt nes>>>>ps3

Even less sense. You can't run a console on another console, much like I can't run on a bicycle.
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#77 Gameslave_
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What level of concern should we have about Valkyria Chronicles....is it even selling on the PS3? IIJuggaNottII
not. at. all. like 33,000 in the US alone. thats kind of sad. its a beautiful game, just released in game cluttered time.
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#78 Kratos_OMEGA
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HAHAHHAHA. Sega make me laugh.
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#79 Fusible
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[QUOTE="AntiCrimeSpot6"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] Um, I doubt VC does TrueHD. And if it does I'm going to get it just for that.heretrix

Sure it does. TrueHD = HD Video + HD Audio.

:lol:

GOD. This is why I love system wars.

LOL...he's on that border line with PS_JOHN
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#80 Fusible
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And as Sega has stated, it would not be their vision of VC. There is a reason why Dolby Digital isn't even included on the PS3 version of VC.AntiCrimeSpot6
I want a LINK to your argument. Not once a LINK, where is it where you claim Sega says this. It would be stupid to think it's not possible because of Audio. So what your saying is that the track cannot be used compressed from it's Master Form to a lower quality. LOL stupidest argument I've heard in a long time on SW. You really need to learn how to debate on SW, you're looking like PS_JOHN. Or maybe PS_JOHN's alternate account.
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#81 deactivated-59da85d821feb
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This is the stupidest thread I've seen in a while...