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#1 REforever101
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First the egg on 360 users by flashing the nice and shiny achievements in our faces but they don't ease off the medal requirements for portal. making chamber 17 literally impossible when going for (least steps) on the 360

if anyone actually got it, the game glitched on you. it had to. I mean, how do you do that longer jump on the 360 version. its just impossible to cut down on steps. and I'm fairly certain the "strafejumping" thing can't be done on the 360

ugh...

i heard there were edge clipping glitches tha could shoot you right to the end....can that be done on the 360 version. anyone know?

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#2 fredyfish
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you cant be series
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#3 skrat_01
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Thus you hate Valve with a passion?

Why are you even playing the game if you do?

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#4 stepat201
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It's funny how so many console only gamers hate Valve. Play their games on PC. They are probably the single greatest dev around right now.

Seriously though,their games are meant for PC.

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#5 saywat11
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you have Valve because you cant get an achievment?

get over yourself

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#6 Locke562
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you cant be seriesfredyfish

Oh I think hes series.

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#7 fredyfish
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[QUOTE="fredyfish"]you cant be seriesLocke562

Oh I think hes series.

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

even on the console valve is a great developer

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#8 Saturos3091
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Do you really care that much about an achievement? :|
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First the egg on 360 users by flashing the nice and shiny achievements in our faces but they don't ease off the medal requirements for portal. making chamber 17 literally impossible when going for (least steps) on the 360

if anyone actually got it, the game glitched on you. it had to. I mean, how do you do that longer jump on the 360 version. its just impossible to cut down on steps. and I'm fairly certain the "strafejumping" thing can't be done on the 360

ugh...

i heard there were edge clipping glitches tha could shoot you right to the end....can that be done on the 360 version. anyone know?

REforever101

Yahoo, mad for an achievment... It change anything in your life to have some points? Make you feel better or something? because I will never understand this madness over some cheap things that merely add some value to expensive game and give a feeling to the dev that they don't need to make more effort to add more contents because you will be happy to replay the darn thing for achievment (cod 4 hours sp anyone?)

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#10 skrat_01
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Yahoo, mad for an achievment... It change anything in your life to have some points? Make you feel better or something? because I will never understand this madness over some cheap things that merely add some value to expensive game and give a feeling to the dev that they don't need to make more effort to add more contents because you will be happy to replay the darn thing for achievment (cod 4 hours sp anyone?)

Franko_3

I second this, and its defiantly one reason I dislike achievements.

What better way to bolster the replayability of your game with having the player go through it again, however with constraints, just for more magic points, that are supposed to be 'rewarding'.... even though they do nothing.

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#11 footfoe2
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you know what i hhate valve as well
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#12 lolkie_81
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Achievements are cool and add replay. I never go crazy over them and only try and get them all{or close} if i really love the game and want a reason to keep playing after I have done it to death.
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#14 Saturos3091
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Achievements are cool and add replay.lolkie_81


Yes, but it's merely a false added replay value. The devs should be actually making their game rewarding and challenging enough to warrant replays, with or without the added XBL achievements. This is why some people get sucked up into "collecting" them or "achievement-whoring," which is the biggest issue with them to begin with for people who like to play online.
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#15 fredyfish
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wait now i've read your post

are you stupid or something Portal is easy as crap what part are you on maybe i can help

footfoe2

yea and if hes having trouble he can use the cheats and still get the achievement

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#16 REforever101
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you cant be seriesfredyfish

no of course of not series. valve rocks. I'm just pissed I can't get this damn medal. ugh

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#17 REforever101
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[QUOTE="footfoe2"]

wait now i've read your post

are you stupid or something Portal is easy as crap what part are you on maybe i can help

fredyfish

yea and if hes having trouble he can use the cheats and still get the achievement

incorrect, cheats disable the apeture science achievement

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#18 aryoshi
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I have that achivement. Strange. Well there's no reason to hate a game company simply because it's hard, next to impossible, to get one little achivement.
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#19 fredyfish
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[QUOTE="fredyfish"][QUOTE="footfoe2"]

wait now i've read your post

are you stupid or something Portal is easy as crap what part are you on maybe i can help

REforever101

yea and if hes having trouble he can use the cheats and still get the achievement

incorrect, cheats disable the apeture science achievement

well im sorry for helping then

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#20 REforever101
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jesus you people have broken sarcasm detectors...

anyway, while i have your attentinon

portal is the only thing in my way of getting 100% in the orange box

does ANYONE know how to do any of the following on the xbox 360

1) Apparently theres some special kinda jump you can do that cuts down on the number of steps that involves using the crouch button. How do you do it

2) Chamber 17 for least steps. It's impossible....I've heard theres a few glitches that can shoot you to the end/near the end though. Anyone like to tell me....PLEASE

3) General info for getting the gold in least steps in chamber 17 would be lovely.....

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#21 never100
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I hate valve cuss that apparently like shoving pipes into peoples heads. LAME!!!

j/k

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#22 PS2_ROCKS
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I just don't get it. Why do people care so much about achievements? Once you get it, who cares that you have it other than yourself? It's just a form of milkage to keep you playing through a game you couldn't care less about so you can show off your "l33t" gaming skills on your profile.
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#23 ProductNumber49
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It's funny how so many console only gamers hate Valve. Play their games on PC. They are probably the single greatest dev around right now.

Seriously though,their games are meant for PC.

stepat201

They cant be the greatest devs if they cant properly make games on consoles

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#24 PandaBear86
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[QUOTE="stepat201"]

It's funny how so many console only gamers hate Valve. Play their games on PC. They are probably the single greatest dev around right now.

Seriously though,their games are meant for PC.

ProductNumber49

They cant be the greatest devs if they cant properly make games on consoles

The only way they can make good games on consoles is if they compromise the PC version. You just can't use the gamepad as a complete replacement for FPS games and expect it to have the exact quality control as a keyboard and mouse. You just can't.

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#25 REforever101
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jesus you people have broken sarcasm detectors...

anyway, while i have your attentinon

portal is the only thing in my way of getting 100% in the orange box

does ANYONE know how to do any of the following on the xbox 360

1) Apparently theres some special kinda jump you can do that cuts down on the number of steps that involves using the crouch button. How do you do it

2) Chamber 17 for least steps. It's impossible....I've heard theres a few glitches that can shoot you to the end/near the end though. Anyone like to tell me....PLEASE

3) General info for getting the gold in least steps in chamber 17 would be lovely.....

REforever101

anyone?

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#26 never100
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[QUOTE="REforever101"]

jesus you people have broken sarcasm detectors...

anyway, while i have your attentinon

portal is the only thing in my way of getting 100% in the orange box

does ANYONE know how to do any of the following on the xbox 360

1) Apparently theres some special kinda jump you can do that cuts down on the number of steps that involves using the crouch button. How do you do it

2) Chamber 17 for least steps. It's impossible....I've heard theres a few glitches that can shoot you to the end/near the end though. Anyone like to tell me....PLEASE

3) General info for getting the gold in least steps in chamber 17 would be lovely.....

REforever101

anyone?

I know your joking. I wish i could help you with that but I can't. No cake for me :(.

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First the egg on 360 users by flashing the nice and shiny achievements in our faces but they don't ease off the medal requirements for portal. making chamber 17 literally impossible when going for (least steps) on the 360

if anyone actually got it, the game glitched on you. it had to. I mean, how do you do that longer jump on the 360 version. its just impossible to cut down on steps. and I'm fairly certain the "strafejumping" thing can't be done on the 360

ugh...

i heard there were edge clipping glitches tha could shoot you right to the end....can that be done on the 360 version. anyone know?

REforever101

there is a way to do it, you have to use the shoot portal anywhere cheat, once your right to the end of the game, assuming you have the least steps needed, you save, and then load another game and then reload the game that you were just playing, it fools the game thinking that you never had the cheat on, im going off of a youtube vid, so i could be completely wrong

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#28 PSfanboy101
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you cant be seriesfredyfish

why so series

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#30 killerfist
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Don't get mad over an achievement...:|
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#31 viewtifulreed22
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I love getting achevements, dont let these guys try to tell you they arent fun.
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#32 nahmean187
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portal was really easy. im sorry if that sounds harsh but im not even good at games and i beat that pretty fast.
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#33 linkin_guy109
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portal was really easy. im sorry if that sounds harsh but im not even good at games and i beat that pretty fast.nahmean187

the story (if you wanna call it that) was damn easy, but there are a few different variations to chambers 5-11

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#34 FirstDiscovery
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I hated them since the day the cancelled Black Box
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#35 Avenger1324
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The least steps is possible on 360 - I've done it - but I can't do the least time ones, as they really need to be done on PC with the greater precision and accuracy of a mouse.

Valve games really need to be played on PC, which you should remember before buying Left 4 Dead. They are great at supporting the PC community, but have all but waved two fingers at the console community. Blame it on MS, blame it on Valve, blame it on whoever, but the fact is 10 months on and none of the additional content added several times to the PC version has come to consoles.

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#36 angelkimne
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They are my favourite devloper in existance :x
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#37 mo0ksi
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I hated them since the day the cancelled Black BoxFirstDiscovery
What? You're getting the exact same content though.
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#38 Skittles_McGee
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Thats odd, I got the achievements for Portal while using cheats. Go me?
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#39 deactivated-660c2894dc19c
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I thought Portal was easy and I played it on 360. Took me about 1,5 hours to beat. I can't remember that chamber 17. so I can't give any advice.
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#40 samusarmada
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I hate valve cuss that apparently like shoving pipes into peoples heads. LAME!!!

j/k

never100

haha :)

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#41 heretrix
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I just don't get it. Why do people care so much about achievements? Once you get it, who cares that you have it other than yourself? It's just a form of milkage to keep you playing through a game you couldn't care less about so you can show off your "l33t" gaming skills on your profile.PS2_ROCKS

How is it milkage when it's free?

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#42 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="PS2_ROCKS"]I just don't get it. Why do people care so much about achievements? Once you get it, who cares that you have it other than yourself? It's just a form of milkage to keep you playing through a game you couldn't care less about so you can show off your "l33t" gaming skills on your profile.heretrix

How is it milkage when it's free?

Milking the games replay value?
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First the egg on 360 users by flashing the nice and shiny achievements in our faces but they don't ease off the medal requirements for portal. making chamber 17 literally impossible when going for (least steps) on the 360

if anyone actually got it, the game glitched on you. it had to. I mean, how do you do that longer jump on the 360 version. its just impossible to cut down on steps. and I'm fairly certain the "strafejumping" thing can't be done on the 360

ugh...

i heard there were edge clipping glitches tha could shoot you right to the end....can that be done on the 360 version. anyone know?

REforever101
Those arent even reasons to hate them. The Orange Box was an amazing deal and they didnt charge anythings for there DLC... How could you hate that?
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#44 W1NGMAN-
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Since you're stressing so much over this one achievement you better get something really neat then just some stupid medal :|
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#45 heretrix
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="PS2_ROCKS"]I just don't get it. Why do people care so much about achievements? Once you get it, who cares that you have it other than yourself? It's just a form of milkage to keep you playing through a game you couldn't care less about so you can show off your "l33t" gaming skills on your profile.skrat_01

How is it milkage when it's free?

Milking the games replay value?

Oh geez, now we are complaining about replaying a game when we don't have to? What the hell kind of reasoning is that? Achievements are free and completely unneccessary to do. Complaining about them is absolutely one of the silliest things I've heard about this gaming this gen.

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#46 ONLYDOD
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So you don't like them because you can't unlock an achievement? Unlocking Mile High Club on Veteran was one of the most infuriating achievements to unlock in my experience, I never hated Infinity Ward for it.
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="PS2_ROCKS"]I just don't get it. Why do people care so much about achievements? Once you get it, who cares that you have it other than yourself? It's just a form of milkage to keep you playing through a game you couldn't care less about so you can show off your "l33t" gaming skills on your profile.heretrix

How is it milkage when it's free?

Milking the games replay value?

Oh geez, now we are complaining about replaying a game when we don't have to? What the hell kind of reasoning is that? Achievements are free and completely unneccessary to do. Complaining about them is absolutely one of the silliest things I've heard about this gaming this gen.

True, personally I love achievements. I was addicted at one stage, and at that time where i would play loads of games squeezing all i could get out of them was pure gaming bliss. They're not for some people, but thats no reason to bash them.

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#48 heretrix
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[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="PS2_ROCKS"]I just don't get it. Why do people care so much about achievements? Once you get it, who cares that you have it other than yourself? It's just a form of milkage to keep you playing through a game you couldn't care less about so you can show off your "l33t" gaming skills on your profile.-DrRobotnik-

How is it milkage when it's free?

Milking the games replay value?

Oh geez, now we are complaining about replaying a game when we don't have to? What the hell kind of reasoning is that? Achievements are free and completely unneccessary to do. Complaining about them is absolutely one of the silliest things I've heard about this gaming this gen.

True, personally I love achievements. I was addicted at one stage, and at that time where i would play loads of games squeezing all i could get out of them was pure gaming bliss. They're not for some people, but thats no reason to bash them.

My stance on achievements is, if they are good, I enjoy them. If they are bad, I ignore them. It's as simple as that. It's more important to me that a game is enjoyable as a whole rather than focusing on a minor feature.
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#49 789shadow
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Why all this hate over an achievment??You don't have to get it.Unless you're addicted.....>_>
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#50 BoloTheGreat
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kill the unbeleiver!!