Valve is an overrated Developer

People act like they are Gaming Gods when there are alot better devs out there like Gearbox 8)

Gear what? never heard of them, not a fan of valve

lol

Jankarcop

What have gearbox actually done?

Avoiding the fact that saying Gearbox is a better developer than is laughable...

Yah, Valve is overrated.

Also, TC, get your own sig.

Good developer: yes

overrated: yes

What have gearbox actually done?

spookykid143

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What have gearbox actually done?

themagicbum9720

[QUOTE="themagicbum9720"][QUOTE="spookykid143"]

What have gearbox actually done?

PannicAtack

Opposing Force was awful, Blue Shift was god-like.

They're very good, but slightly overrated

Valve makes the games that appease the hardcore enthusiasts, mainstream, and those with modest PCs. They do this very well.

What have gearbox actually done?

spookykid143

You didn't even back up that false statement.

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What have gearbox actually done?

gameofthering

On topic, agreed very overated, however they are also very good.

[QUOTE="-Tretiak"]

I agree. They need to start making games with retarded weapon physics, generic copy & paste enemies with some sort of eye glow effect, a nice brown color palette and cutscenes.

DarkLink77

Well, they have the generic enemy bit down pat. :P

I know right! Just look at the generic enemies. Seems like I see these in every shooter!

[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="themagicbum9720"] blue shift, opposing force, probably some others.-Tretiak

Opposing Force was awful, Blue Shift was god-like.

No no no no no. Opposing Force was incredible. Blue Shift was the one that needed improvement.

Yes they are very overrated. Good developers definitely, but nothing they've done has actually wowed me. Most of their stuff is just other peoples ideas that they've decided to make a profit on.Ravensmash

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What have gearbox actually done?

themagicbum9720

It's mainly because they were allowed the chance to create the sequel to half life, meaning that myopic gamers forget all the hard work of gearbox. L4D really isn't that good, it's the result of a monopoly on the online distribution system.

The whole thing is politics tbh

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]Yes they are very overrated. Good developers definitely, but nothing they've done has actually wowed me. Most of their stuff is just other peoples ideas that they've decided to make a profit on.gmaster456

Counter-Strike wasn't their idea. It was originally a mod for Half-Life, and Portal was the spiritual successor to Narbacular Drop, made by a lot of the people that made Portal. Half-Life is definitely Valve's though.

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]Yes they are very overrated. Good developers definitely, but nothing they've done has actually wowed me. Most of their stuff is just other peoples ideas that they've decided to make a profit on.gmaster456

[QUOTE="gmaster456"][QUOTE="Ravensmash"]Yes they are very overrated. Good developers definitely, but nothing they've done has actually wowed me. Most of their stuff is just other peoples ideas that they've decided to make a profit on.Ravensmash

pssh they brought the awesome entity known as steam so please! on to of that, just about everything valve develops is a top notch game and those with multiplayer are some of the best out there in their respective genre. half life, team fortress, left 4 dead, portal, counter strike! no they are not overrated. whos ur favorite developer and why? lemme see how they compare to valve.

What have gearbox actually done?

spookykid143

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[QUOTE="-Tretiak"]

I agree. They need to start making games with retarded weapon physics, generic copy & paste enemies with some sort of eye glow effect, a nice brown color palette and cutscenes.

-Tretiak

Well, they have the generic enemy bit down pat. :P

I know right! Just look at the generic enemies. Seems like I see these in every shooter!

Also, this is pretty much the definition of generic.

[QUOTE="-Tretiak"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

Well, they have the generic enemy bit down pat. :P

DarkLink77

I know right! Just look at the generic enemies. Seems like I see these in every shooter!

Also, this is pretty much the definition of generic.

Ah yes, a generalizing response followed by an eye roll and one single pic. Nothing that specifically addresses the point. Pretty much what I've come to expect from you.

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[QUOTE="-Tretiak"]

I know right! Just look at the generic enemies. Seems like I see these in every shooter!-Tretiak

Also, this is pretty much the definition of generic.

Ah yes, a generalizing response followed by an eye roll and one single pic. Nothing that specifically addresses the point. Pretty much what I've come to expect from you.

Gear what? never heard of them, not a fan of valve

finalstar2007

Good developer: yes

overrated: yes

dercoo

This, though I think the accolades they receive have more to do with their support of games rather than the games themselves.

Agreed except the fact that the only slightly overrated. Not Gearbox part though.

No no no... Valve and overrated just don't go together imo

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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] You're right, zombies and big bugs are so original. :roll:

Also, this is pretty much the definition of generic.

DarkLink77

Ah yes, a generalizing response followed by an eye roll and one single pic. Nothing that specifically addresses the point. Pretty much what I've come to expect from you.

Just because some of that stuff occasionaly pops up in a small handful of games does NOT make them generic.

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[QUOTE="-Tretiak"]

Ah yes, a generalizing response followed by an eye roll and one single pic. Nothing that specifically addresses the point. Pretty much what I've come to expect from you.

gmaster456

Just because some of that stuff occasionaly pops up in a small handful of games does NOT make them generic.

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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Ah, yes, unable to actually defend Headcrabs (Facehugger rip-off), the Combine (Take your pick of the generic here) and big bugs (Where have we seen this before? I wonder....) as not generic, so you avoid the point entirely and attack me. Pretty much what I've come to expect from you. I imagine you won't reply to this post, either.

DarkLink77

Just because some of that stuff occasionaly pops up in a small handful of games does NOT make them generic.

They made Half-Life and Half-Life 2, two of the best FPS ever created. Instantly not overrated. i5750at4Ghz

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="gmaster456"]

Just because some of that stuff occasionaly pops up in a small handful of games does NOT make them generic.

HoolaHoopMan