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#51 deactivated-59d151f079814
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Gearbox is great (which is funny you mention them seeing as they did Half-Life: Opposing Forces.. A sequel to Half-Life).. But Valve is different.. They have pioneered the DD service and how a dev truly supports a modding community.. Furthermore their recent multiplayer games like the L4D series and Team Fortress 2 are ground breaking.. I swear Team Fortress 2 is such a overlooked game..
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#52 gmaster456
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Yeah they are overrated. The only games I like of theirs are HL2 and TF2. They aren't bad , but they aren't the best.OnlyZiiDane
So the company is overrated because their games don't appeal to you?
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#53 argetlam00
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I like Blizzard and Bioware (ill pretend DA2 doesn't exist) a bit more than Valve, but I don't think Valve are overrated. Overrated is what I would call just about any first party dev for consoles. They are presented as making way better games than they do.

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#54 OnlyZiiDane
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[QUOTE="OnlyZiiDane"]Yeah they are overrated. The only games I like of theirs are HL2 and TF2. They aren't bad , but they aren't the best.gmaster456
So the company is overrated because their games don't appeal to you?

All of their games are FPS's, which I like. I completely understand why someone would love their games, I just find them decent. Not the 1337OMGBBQSACE people make it out to be.
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#55 da_chub
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valve is not over rated. they are the reason why pc gaming is till alive.(other then blizzard and popcap). gearbox is nothing special. and duke nukem isnt their game.
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#56 finalfantasy94
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ill give props to them in the fact that they listen to the community and have no problem giving away free dlc. Unless thier arms are twisted by a company ala MS to put a price on items. We saw where that got MS.

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#57 i5750at4Ghz
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[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]They made Half-Life and Half-Life 2, two of the best FPS ever created. Instantly not overrated. Badosh
These comments make them overrated.

Explain.
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#58 Pray_to_me
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Have they ever made a non fps game?

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#59 PannicAtack
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Have they ever made a non fps game?

Pray_to_me
Portal. Alien Swarm.
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#60 Bardock47
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[QUOTE="Pray_to_me"]

Have they ever made a non fps game?

PannicAtack

Portal. Alien Swarm.

I think we can count Portal as a First-Person Puzzler

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#61 Pray_to_me
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[QUOTE="Pray_to_me"]

Have they ever made a non fps game?

PannicAtack

Portal. Alien Swarm.

Portal is first person and you shoot walls

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#62 RyuRanVII
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Overrrated? Sure they are. But this doesn't mean Valve isn't one of the best developers out there.

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#63 Bardock47
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[QUOTE="Badosh"][QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"]They made Half-Life and Half-Life 2, two of the best FPS ever created. Instantly not overrated. i5750at4Ghz
These comments make them overrated.

Explain.

Bungie made Halo, one of the best franchises ever ever created. Instantly not overrated. or Rare made Goldeneye for N64, proving that console FPS are possible, instantly not overrated.

See what I'm geting at here, people hype it up so much, that it does become overrated

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#64 deactivated-6079d224de716
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Opposing Force was awful, Blue Shift was god-like.

-Tretiak

The other way around

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#65 Funconsole
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People act like they are Gaming Gods when there are alot better devs out there like Gearbox 8)

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Is this thread a response to that GG or Valve thread? And who's Gearbox? :?
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#66 Bardock47
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[QUOTE="Snyper-007"]

People act like they are Gaming Gods when there are alot better devs out there like Gearbox 8)

Funconsole

Is this thread a response to that GG or Valve thread? And who's Gearbox? :?

Gearbox= Borderlands, Duke Nukem Forever (For now) Half-Life add ons, and ports (E.G Halo for P.C.)

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#67 JuarN18
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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="Pray_to_me"]

Have they ever made a non fps game?

Pray_to_me

Portal. Alien Swarm.

Portal is first person and you shoot walls

that doesn't make a puzzle game into a FPS
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#68 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="Badosh"] These comments make them overrated.Bardock47

Explain.

Bungie made Halo, one of the best franchises ever ever created. Instantly not overrated. or Rare made Goldeneye for N64, proving that console FPS are possible, instantly not overrated.

See what I'm geting at here, people hype it up so much, that it does become overrated

Iiiiii think that Halo is pretty widely regarded as overrated.
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#69 Bardock47
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[QUOTE="Bardock47"]

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"] Explain.PannicAtack

Bungie made Halo, one of the best franchises ever ever created. Instantly not overrated. or Rare made Goldeneye for N64, proving that console FPS are possible, instantly not overrated.

See what I'm geting at here, people hype it up so much, that it does become overrated

Iiiiii think that Halo is pretty widely regarded as overrated.

Not the point iwas tryin to make here:x

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#70 GunSmith1_basic
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everyone always says good things are overrated. Ocarina of Time is overrated, MGS4 is overrated, blah blah blah. I get it. Everyone sucks
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#71 metalguitar13
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lol
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#72 The_Capitalist
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Valve is an overrated developer, I agree wholeheartedly!

Counter-Strike and Day of Defeat? Left 4 Dead? These properties were not original - Valve just bought them and brought the developers to these games in-house.

I have more regard for their digital distribution system (which is fantastic, addictive, and easy to use).

They only made one good game, and that was Half-Life. Half-Life was awesome. Half-Life 2 and its subsequent expansions were merely good, but pale in comparison with the original game.

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#73 ampiva
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They are hugely overrated but Gearbox isn't even good.
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#75 KC_Hokie
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Valve is a fantastic developer. Their major flaw is it takes them forever to make Half Life games. I don't care that much about Portal 2.
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#76 NanoMan88
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I have to agree with the TC and I am a hermit

CS was really good but its a mod not really created by valve

I really dont see the appeal of TF2, I thought it was really boring and the paying for weapons thing just made it worse

Portal was good but really short

L4d1 and 2 got old quick I would never pay more than the 6$ i paid for it

HL2 was the most boring game I played in my life, I never even got around to beating it and this is with the cinamatic mod

I love valve for steam but their games are meh

Also I find it funny when cod devs use the same engine in there games they are called lazy, but when valve does it everyone still worships them. For the love of god the source engine is like almost a decade old!

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#77 Jesus_on_fire
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[QUOTE="-Tretiak"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

Well, they have the generic enemy bit down pat. :P

DarkLink77

I know right! Just look at the generic enemies. Seems like I see these in every shooter!

You're right, zombies and big bugs are so original. :roll:

Also, this is pretty much the definition of generic.

I'm beginning to think its impossible to not make generic characters/enemies anymore:P

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#78 PannicAtack
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and the paying for weapons thing just made it worseNanoMan88
You are aware that you can get all the weapons without paying for them, right?

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#79 lostfan132
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i tend to agree. didn't like left 4 dead, dont like team fortress, or counterstrike, portal was ok, the only thing great they have done is half life.

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#80 mirgamer
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Opinion is overrated.
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#81 foxhound_fox
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They are gods. They've been delivering incredibly high-quality games for over a decade now. And have revolutionized modern PC gaming with Steam.

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#82 Luxen90
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Overrated: Of Course, just with Half Life 2 alone. But they are still decent developers.
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#83 James161324
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What game has valve made that isn't good, plus their ceo isn't full of crap like every other ceo is.

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#84 The__Havoc
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And what other developer has created the most successful video game digital distribution service on a home platform? Oh wait that's Valve :lol:

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#85 lawlessx
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when you stop and think about it just what big time developing team aren't considered of being overrated?
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#86 LongZhiZi
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I concur. I also find it interesting that they are renowned for FPS games when the actual shooting in those games are subpar.
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#87 foxhound_fox
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What game has valve made that isn't good, plus their ceo isn't full of crap like every other ceo is.

James161324


Half Life 2: Episode 1. It was decent, but totally disappointing for a piece of "episodic content" that took two years to make.

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#88 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="spookykid143"]

What have gearbox actually done?

djsifer01
Borderlands, which was better than anything the severally overrated Valve has done. I do love Steam though.

Borderlands was boring as hell. :| It doesn't compare to anything Valve has done. Even though Half Life 2 is more linear, I'd still rather play HL2 than Borderlands.
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#89 Vesica_Prime
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talk in bold if you're a sony fanboy with no credible argument and is also unoriginal as hell

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#90 VendettaRed07
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Idk if they are overrated, I would say they are one of the few developers on here that get their dues while others are bashed so heavily that they just seem like they get more praise then they should compared to anyone else... I mean EVERY other dev. that makes fps apparently makes boring, casual, generic shooters. Valve is the only one who doesn't make Generic FPS according to this site.

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#91 demonic_85
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Valve is an amazing developer because they keep putting out excellent games that are well worth the money. Even long after a title has been out they still release DLC for it and its free. Plus they have developed one of the best online markets ever, Steam!

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#92 EdenProxy
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UPDATE SOURCE ENGINE NOW

Other then that I love valve

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#93 John_Read
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so does naughty dogs,crytek,ID.....
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#94 Merex760
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Valve, overrated because they make some of the best shooters out there with incredible longevity. Right...
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#95 Vaasman
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People act like they are Gaming Gods when there are alot better devs out there like Gearbox 8)

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#96 butisitbluray
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yep ..last good game they made was Half Life 1

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#97 TheAcountantMan
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Steam....saved PC gaming....nope if anything they're underrated
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#98 DragonfireXZ95
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yep ..last good game they made was Half Life 1

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#99 NeonNinja
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Valve isn't as good as many claim they are, but they're still a good development house. I may not care for Portal or Left 4 Dead, but I do care for some Half-Life. And they tend to have good multiplayer games like Team Fortress and Counter Strike, so they're good, but not everything they touch is instant gold in my opinion.

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#100 PannicAtack
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[QUOTE="butisitbluray"]

yep ..last good game they made was Half Life 1

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