valve: no left 4 dead for ps3 but maybe Wii...

http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/02/21/gdc-valve-confirms-left-4-dead-left-off-ps3-moots-source-for-wii/

too bad, might be a really great 4 player co-op game imo.

Well that's one of the weirder things I've heard from them. choosing the Wii over the PS3 for a multiplat.

Why does Valve hate the PS3?

Well that's one of the weirder things I've heard from them. choosing the Wii over the PS3 for a multiplat.

laughingman42

Why does Valve hate the PS3?

web966

no hate, just not very accustomed to the dev tools i guess... and not willing to learn either i guess. :P

Why does Valve hate the PS3?

web966

It is funny how they are so negative against it. It's also sad since they're one of the best developers.

And to the other poster, yes, Source can run on Wii. Wii is more powerful than the OG Xbox, so yeah...

Well that's one of the weirder things I've heard from them. choosing the Wii over the PS3 for a multiplat.

laughingman42

Can the Wii run the source engine?tader-salad

Pretty much any computer could run the source engine.

:? Interesting news to say the least.

Well that's one of the weirder things I've heard from them. choosing the Wii over the PS3 for a multiplat.

laughingman42

[QUOTE="web966"]

Why does Valve hate the PS3?

Always-Honest

no hate, just not very accustomed to the dev tools i guess... and not willing to learn either i guess. :P

I remember Gabe Newel (sp?) saying some very negative things about it.

Why does Valve hate the PS3?

web966

CUz valve loves anything PC related, why they love Wii IDK. :|

Why does Valve hate the PS3?

web966

[QUOTE="Always-Honest"][QUOTE="web966"]

Why does Valve hate the PS3?

web966

no hate, just not very accustomed to the dev tools i guess... and not willing to learn either i guess. :P

I remember Gabe Newel (sp?) saying some very negative things about it.

really? haven't read/ heard it.. probably frustrated about it being so different from pc

Why does this surprise people?

PS3 game sales are HORRIBLE

HORRIBLE

[QUOTE="web966"]

Why does Valve hate the PS3?

kage_53

Why does this surprise people?

PS3 game sales are HORRIBLE

HORRIBLE

Spider-Jones

Total: 10.5 million

2007: 8.86, 360 was 7.3

You sure where talking about the same console? :|

Can the Wii run the source engine?tader-salad

the source engine is very scalable. combine that with the wii having a significantly superior CPU (anyone who says 733MHz v 729 in xbox 1s favour....dont do it) and more ram compared to the Xbox1. the GPU is bedateable (the engine might need a rejig a bit for that) mind.

but considering that they got it running on the xbox 1, the wii shouldnt have too many problems. wont be hl2 episode 2 at max settings level of detail but itll do the job.

and is it just me or do valve really really hate the PS3? gabe was also attacking it left right and center last year. they really dont seem to like the design of the machine (i also have some beefs with it mind). to outright refuse to work on it....they must really hate it.

[QUOTE="web966"][QUOTE="Always-Honest"][QUOTE="web966"]

Why does Valve hate the PS3?

Always-Honest

no hate, just not very accustomed to the dev tools i guess... and not willing to learn either i guess. :P

I remember Gabe Newel (sp?) saying some very negative things about it.

really? haven't read/ heard it.. probably frustrated about it being so different from pc

Found it http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=173540

"I'd say, even at this late date, they should just cancel it and do a do over"

Can the Wii run the source engine?tader-salad

It's not a problem for PS3 owners. They all own a 1000+ PC rig.dkhw

indeed.

[QUOTE="Spider-Jones"]

Why does this surprise people?

PS3 game sales are HORRIBLE

HORRIBLE

Rhys555

Total: 10.5 million

2007: 8.86, 360 was 7.3

You sure where talking about the same console? :|

[QUOTE="Spider-Jones"]

Why does this surprise people?

PS3 game sales are HORRIBLE

HORRIBLE

Rhys555

Total: 10.5 million

2007: 8.86, 360 was 7.3

You sure where talking about the same console? :|

he said game sale not system sale.

[QUOTE="tader-salad"]Can the Wii run the source engine?Deihmos

Pretty much any computer could run the source engine.

Why does this surprise people?

PS3 game sales are HORRIBLE

HORRIBLE

Spider-Jones

They're not that horrible if you compare them with the Wii's game sales...

The superior version of resident evil 5 is all the zombie killing i need for this year 8)Rhys555

Too bad it won't be out this year.

And theres nothing superior about it over the 360 version.

Can the Wii run the source engine?tader-salad

The X-Box could, and it's weaker then the Wii.

[QUOTE="Spider-Jones"]

Why does this surprise people?

PS3 game sales are HORRIBLE

HORRIBLE

Rhys555

Total: 10.5 million

2007: 8.86, 360 was 7.3

You sure where talking about the same console? :|

He said games..Not consoles.. Try reading before spitting for fanboy crap out!

[QUOTE="Spider-Jones"]

Why does this surprise people?

PS3 game sales are HORRIBLE

HORRIBLE

NWA_31

They're not that horrible if you compare them with the Wii's game sales...

The superior version of resident evil 5 is all the zombie killing i need for this year 8)Rhys555

and how do you know PS3 version is superior?

[QUOTE="Rhys555"]The superior version of resident evil 5 is all the zombie killing i need for this year 8)reza

and how do you know PS3 version is superior?

Blu ray.

kind of wierd because ps3 is good and wii do not have a lot of buyers or its just collecting dust in the house. iam2green

Righhhhht

"I'd say, even at this late date, they should just cancel it and do a do over"

web966

ah yeah, i remember that quote.. well, i'm sure more developers agree with him...

Why does Valve hate the PS3?

web966

because it's a bloated machine filled with hardware that sony included to help out it's other business investments and divisions that has a memory bottleneck, is incredibly hard to program for (and so far not worth the effort, no ps3 games are anything close to what sony was hyping) it's overpriced, bluray causes load time problems and the necessity to install to the hdd, and the ps3 has one of the lowest attach rates in console history.

Gabe Newell said it better, but that's my assessment in a nutshell.

I still hope I get some great games to play on my PS3 - but so far I haven't been impressed and totally agree with Newell's stance. If I were a dev I wouldn't touch the PS3 with a ten foot pole until attach rates and install base go up. just isn't worht the effort right now - most companies lose money on PS3 multiplats, and even some exclusives.

Actually Wii software sales have passed 360 software sales in the last two NPD periods... while the PS3 is lagging in a distant third. Get with the times.Spider-Jones

Yes, but how many of them are 3rd parties ? As far as I know, Left 4 Dead isn't made by Nintendo.

Can the Wii run the source engine?tader-salad

[QUOTE="Spider-Jones"]Actually Wii software sales have passed 360 software sales in the last two NPD periods... while the PS3 is lagging in a distant third. Get with the times.NWA_31

Yes, but how many of them are 3rd parties ? As far as I know, Left 4 Dead isn't made by Nintendo.

Why the hell does it matter? That's just damage control.

[QUOTE="reza"]

[QUOTE="Rhys555"]The superior version of resident evil 5 is all the zombie killing i need for this year 8)sexy_chimp

and how do you know PS3 version is superior?

Blu ray.

oh yeah, how could i forget that? stupid me.

[QUOTE="Spider-Jones"]Actually Wii software sales have passed 360 software sales in the last two NPD periods... while the PS3 is lagging in a distant third. Get with the times.NWA_31

Yes, but how many of them are 3rd parties ? As far as I know, Left 4 Dead isn't made by Nintendo.

Third party sales on the Wii are well beyond third party sales on the PS3. I believe the Wii now has 8 or 9 third party million sellers, while the PS3 has about 3 or 4.Spider-Jones

You got a link for that ? I doubt there are actually that many 3rd party million sellers, with all the complaining about games on Wii not selling well enough.

Can the Wii run the source engine?tader-salad

[QUOTE="Spider-Jones"]

Third party sales on the Wii are well beyond third party sales on the PS3. I believe the Wii now has 8 or 9 third party million sellers, while the PS3 has about 3 or 4.NWA_31

You got a link for that ? I doubt there are actually that many 3rd party million sellers, with all the complaining about games on Wii not selling well enough.

The people who are complaining about the people that make crap PS2 ports or shovelware and expect them to sell millions, then cry when they don't.