Valve or Rockstar

Rockstar is definitely top 10 devs of all times, Elite tier. But Valve is part of the 3 God Tier devs (Nintendo, Blizzard & Valve)

So Valve automaticaly wins.

Lucianu

Rockstar basically introduced a whole new genre with GTA3, what did Valve introduce?

Rockstar basically introduced a whole new genre with GTA3, what did Valve introduce?

HAZE-Unit

All 3 revolutionized gaming and introduced incredible innovations. I'm not talking about games only, but what they did to improve upon gaming. I'm keeping tabs of everything wen thinking about a God tier dev.

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Rockstar basically introduced a whole new genre with GTA3, what did Valve introduce?

Lucianu

All 3 revolutionized gaming and introduced incredible innovations. I'm not talking about games only, but what they did to improve upon gaming. I'm keeping tabs of everything wen thinking about a God tier dev.

fair enough, could you tell me about the innovations and revolutions Valve brought to the industry as a whole ?

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Rockstar basically introduced a whole new genre with GTA3, what did Valve introduce?

HAZE-Unit

All 3 revolutionized gaming and introduced incredible innovations. I'm not talking about games only, but what they did to improve upon gaming. I'm keeping tabs of everything wen thinking about a God tier dev.

fair enough, could you tell me about the innovations and revolutions Valve brought to the industry as a whole ?

fair enough, could you tell me about the innovations and revolutions Valve brought to the industry as a whole ?

HAZE-Unit

Valve built Steam, evolved the shooter genre beyond Doom, Counter Strike & Team Fortress was built upon the HL engine and after buying those mods, they improved on them, making upgraded version and CSS & TF2. Source Engine.

Blizzard created the ARPG genre & the MOBA (Massively online battle arena) genre was created on their games (now we have countless MOBA games), Battle.net, evolved the RTS genre and built the most popular MMORPG ever, WoW (which is also massively influencial now because of WoW clones)

Nintendo is Nintendo.

I'm not looking at just the *games*, but everything they influenced for the gaming industry in a pozitive way. People are going to disagree and say that we should only look at the games. But i'm not going to do that.

Devs that stand far above every other dev., like the difference between Man and God, do much more than make games.

rockstar..gotta support the local developer :P (talkin bout North)

Rockstar.

It's a close call. The games ive played from both developers

Valve: Half Life series, Team Fortress 2, Left 4 Dead, Portal

Rockstar : GTA series, Red Dead Redemption

Probably have to give valve the edge. They have also done alot for the pc scene with Steam

I'll go with Rockstar I suppose...Eh. I like Portal and Half Life is pretty cool, but the old GTA's and RDR are really good games too. So I go with R*

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fair enough, could you tell me about the innovations and revolutions Valve brought to the industry as a whole ?

Lucianu

Valve built Steam, evolved the shooter genre beyond Doom, Counter Strike & Team Fortress was built upon the HL engine and after buying those mods, they improved on them, making upgraded version and CSS & TF2. Source Engine.

Blizzard created the ARPG genre & the MOBA (Massively online battle arena) genre was created on their games (now we have countless MOBA games), Battle.net, evolved the RTS genre and built the most popular MMORPG ever, WoW (which is also massively influencial now because of WoW clones)

Nintendo is Nintendo.

I'm not looking at just the *games*, but everything they influenced for the gaming industry in a pozitive way. People are going to disagree and say that we should only look at the games. But i'm not going to do that.

Devs that stand far above every other dev., like the difference between Man and God, do much more than make games.

Lets put Blizzard and Nintendo aside for while since the thread is about Valve vs Rockstar. And Im not asking you to talk games only, as I said it's fair to point out steam and stuff other than games.

but Rockstar making a new genre that opened new doors for the whole industry to think of a new way to make games sounds way better than Valve improving from the same genre.

Last but not least Steam doesn't strike me as "OMGWTF" god tier material it's just a service after all.

I remember the Counterstrike craze unfortunately I didn't play it cuz the FPS genre was not my cup of tea back in the day but I give you that, I can't deny CS.

easily valve. valve and blizzard are my fav devs

Valve, but Rockstar is no slouch. They do need to work more on porting games to the PC though. But they need to be strong ports. Maybe they are heading in that direction with the release of LA Noire (PC).

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Rockstar

Cant decide! Those are two of my favourite devs.

RockStar everday of the week...Vavle only know how to do FPS and overhyped, overrated bad games..FFVIII-Squall

And all Rockstar knows how to do is sandbox action-adventure games that are overhyped and overrated. Your point?

[QUOTE="FFVIII-Squall"]RockStar everday of the week...Vavle only know how to do FPS and overhyped, overrated bad games..Phoenix534

And all Rockstar knows how to do is sandbox action-adventure games that are overhyped and overrated. Your point?

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[QUOTE="FFVIII-Squall"]RockStar everday of the week...Vavle only know how to do FPS and overhyped, overrated bad games..FFVIII-Squall

And all Rockstar knows how to do is sandbox action-adventure games that are overhyped and overrated. Your point?

So is Rockstar. At least Valve is trying to make something besides shooters. Portal is puzzle game first and foremost and DOTA II is far from a shooter.

Portal wasnt even there idea they stole the prototype off of some poor indie dev.. and its still a FP game with shooting. Whats DOTA2 btw? Rockstar have matured as a dev team Red Dead proves this.FFVIII-Squall

You sure haven't matured one bit thats for sure...

Portal wasnt even there idea they stole the prototype off of some poor indie dev.. and its still a FP game with shooting. Whats DOTA2 btw? Rockstar have matured as a dev team Red Dead proves this.FFVIII-Squall

No, they didn't steal anything. Portal was made by the team that did the Narbacular Drop after Valve hired them. And how does Red Dead prove that they've matured?

[QUOTE="FFVIII-Squall"]Portal wasnt even there idea they stole the prototype off of some poor indie dev.. and its still a FP game with shooting. Whats DOTA2 btw? Rockstar have matured as a dev team Red Dead proves this.Phoenix534

No, they didn't steal anything. Portal was made by the team that did the Narbacular Drop after Valve hired them. And how does Red Dead prove that they've matured?

Rockstar by far.

Every game Valve puts out is flat out mediocre; Especially that L4D game -- very overrated developer overall.

TecmoGirl

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[QUOTE="FFVIII-Squall"]Portal wasnt even there idea they stole the prototype off of some poor indie dev.. and its still a FP game with shooting. Whats DOTA2 btw? Rockstar have matured as a dev team Red Dead proves this.FFVIII-Squall

No, they didn't steal anything. Portal was made by the team that did the Narbacular Drop after Valve hired them. And how does Red Dead prove that they've matured?

So there new direction started off by making video games? Who knew....

RockStar everday of the week...Vavle only know how to do FPS and overhyped, overrated bad games..FFVIII-Squall

And all Rockstar knows how to do is sandbox action-adventure games that are overhyped and overrated. Your point?

[QUOTE="FFVIII-Squall"]RockStar everday of the week...Vavle only know how to do FPS and overhyped, overrated bad games..Phoenix534

And all Rockstar knows how to do is sandbox action-adventure games that are overhyped and overrated. Your point?

the midnight club franchise is not a sandbox action adventure game, either is l.a. noir which they had a hand in developing. lol also, the greatest table tennis game known to man. please quit acting like rockstar is a one trick pony. and how are they "overrated"? because one game they released this gen (GTA4) received 10s all over the place?

Valve definately. no contest.

Rockstar. I hated Portal and while L4D is fun, its no Red Dead Redemption. dragonball3900

[QUOTE="dragonball3900"]Rockstar. I hated Portal and while L4D is fun, its no Red Dead Redemption. jettpack

yeah, i don't know how that's possible. i'm playing portal 2 right now and it's by far the best game i've played this year. a truly mind blowing game.

Rockstar

Valve just buy developers who makes games portal,CS and L4d was not made by valve but they bought those developers

Valve is awesome but i still love all the rockstar games so i would pick rockstar

Valve ofcourse, and it's not even close. However, ignorant consolites will blindly defend R* though, even though it's the most overrated dev in the history of vidya.

Rockstar make GTA with a diffrent name each year and console fans eat it up and call it a masterpiece

Valve make new games every year and PC fans eat it up and call it a masterpiece

Valve innovate so they get my vote

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Rockstar by far.

Every game Valve puts out is flat out mediocre; Especially that L4D game -- very overrated developer overall.

DragonfireXZ95

Rockstar make GTA with a diffrent name each year and console fans eat it up and call it a masterpiece

Valve make new games every year and PC fans eat it up and call it a masterpiece

Valve innovate so they get my vote

HaloinventedFPS

Valve, of course.

Rockstar has maybe one good game if you stripped the best bits from all of their titles and stitched them together.