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#1 Lithos_
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I did a search, found nothing about it, forgive me if old.

Valve said to be working on 'Steam Box' gaming console with partners, could announce atGDC

By Joshua Topolskyon March 2, 2012 11:55 pm


Recently there's been chatter that Valve — the company behind the massively popular gaming service Steam — has been considering getting into the hardware business. Specifically, there have been rumors that the company has been toying with the idea of creating a proper set-top console which could potentially pose a threat to the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3. Valve co-founder Gabe Newell even recently told Penny Arcade: "Well, if we have to sell hardware we will."


At a glance that would simply be interesting fodder for a gaming forum debate, but we've uncovered information that suggests that not only has Valve been secretly working on gaming hardware for the living room, but that the company is actively pursuing a strategy which would place Steam at the center of an open gaming universe that mirrors what Google has done with Android. Backing up that concept, in the same interview we quote above, Newell says that Valve doesn't really want to do hardware on its own, stating, "We'd rather hardware people that are good at manufacturing and distributing hardware do [hardware]. We think it's important enough that if that's what we end up having to do, then that's what we end up having to do."


That jibes pretty well with this rumored arrangement.


According to sources, the company has been working on a hardware spec and associated software which would make up the backbone of a "Steam Box." The actual devices may be made by a variety of partners, and the software would be readily available to any company that wants to get in the game.


Adding fuel to that fire is a rumor that the Alienware X51 may have been designed with an early spec of the system in mind, and will be retroactively upgradable to the software.


Apparently meetings were held during CES to demo a hand-built version of the device to potential partners. We're told that the basic specs of the Steam Box include a Core i7 CPU, 8GB of RAM, and an NVIDIA GPU. The devices will be able to run any standard PC titles, and will also allow for rival gaming services (like EA's Origin) to be loaded up.


Part of the goal of establishing a baseline for hardware, we're told, is that it will give developers a clear lifecycle for their products, with changes possibly coming every three to four years. Additionally, there won't be a required devkit, and there will be no licensing fees to create software for the platform.


We're hearing that a wide variety of USB peripherals will be compatible with the boxes, though it will likely ship with a proprietary controller. It's possible that the controller will even allow for swappable components, meaning that it can be reconfigured depending on the type of game you're playing. Think that sounds odd? Well Valve filed a patent for such a device last year.

Steam Box controller


Additionally, we're told that the kind of biometrics Valve uses in game testing will somehow be incorporated into these devices. Sources of ours say that the realtime biometric feedback in games will be a sea-change for users. To put it more succinctly, the sentiment we've heard is: "You won't ever look back." These biometric devices could come in the form of a bracelet, or be part of the standard controller.


The consoles will also take advantage of Steam's "Big Picture" mode, a feature Valve touted last year at GDC, but has yet to release to the public. According to the company's press release in 2011 "With big picture mode, gaming opportunities for Steam partners and customers become possible via PCs and Macs on any TV or computer display in the house."


The most interesting piece of this puzzle may be related to that statement. According to sources, the Steam Box isn't intended to just clash with current gaming consoles. Rather, Valve wants to take Apple and its forthcoming new Apple TV products head-on. Newell has clear questions about Apple's strategy, telling the The Seattle Times "On the platform side, it's sort of ominous that the world seems to be moving away from open platforms," adding that "They build a shiny sparkling thing that attracts users and then they control people's access to those things."


The Steam Box could be unveiled at GDC, though we're also hearing that the company may wait until E3 this year to show off what it's been working on.


One thing is for sure, however: if these rumors turn out to be correct, there could be a whole new kind of battle for control of your living room happening in the near future. Of course, much of this is pieced together from a variety of sources, and there could be moving parts which we can't see. Some of this information could change.


We've reached out to Valve for comment, and will update the post with any new information we receive.

Links:

http://www.theverge.com/2012/3/2/2840932/exclusive-valve-steam-box-gaming-console

http://www.steampowered.com/steamworks/thebigpicture.php

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Already a thread titled Rumour Valve working on Steam Box.

But this thread has more information. Though that thread had over 100 posts.

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Sounds like they're trying to make it customizable. I wonder what the pc fans will say about this though.
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Going to the hardware market is a tough call, but Valve might have luck.

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Sounds like they're trying to make it customizable. I wonder what the pc fans will say about this though.shadowchronicle
In the other thread alot were saying they wouldn't get it because they already have a PC. But I would love to get this because it is already more powerful then my Laptop which is what I mainly play PC games on. I have trouble running the Witcher and Mass Effect series on my Laptop.

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Already a thread titled Rumour Valve working on Steam Box.

But this thread has more information. Though that thread had over 100 posts.

Nintendo_Ownes7

Sorry, I really found nothing on the forum search. :|

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#7 SamiRDuran
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steam is so big these days they need to start hiring exclusive developers and a steam box is also a nice idea.
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So basically a Steam version of OnLive. I'll pass unless Half Life 3 is an exclusive launch title. I'd still rather have a disc in my hand than waiting 5 hours for a game to download.

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As a huge valve fan , I don't really think this will sell at all. Consolites and casuals will probably want a ps4/720 and pc gamers don't need this.
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Better Steam than Apple going into the console market. Bring on the choices!
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So basically a Steam version of OnLive. I'll pass unless Half Life 3 is an exclusive launch title. I'd still rather have a disc in my hand than waiting 5 hours for a game to download.

coasterguy65

I bet that might be there game plan. Make Half Life 3 a SteamBox exclusive!

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Valve- Doing everything but Half Life 3 :P

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This is great news even though some specific console fans will undoubtedly clown it. Competition is a great thing and Valve definitely has some great ideas here! A console I can upgrade? ...F*CK YES! Bring it on! "there won't be a required devkit, and there will be no licensing fees to create software for the platform." This is a MASSIVE plus for the console, it will literally have no trouble getting a foothold in the market with this sort of plan, I hope they pull the trigger and ruffle EVERYONE'S feathers.
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Valve- Doing everything but Half Life 3 :P

NoodleFighter

I'm not so sure about that...

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[QUOTE="NoodleFighter"]

Valve- Doing everything but Half Life 3 :P

Lithos_

I'm not so sure about that...

You sure?

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With valve's customer support?

That thing'll crash and burn.

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This is great news even though some specific console fans will undoubtedly clown it. Competition is a great thing and Valve definitely has some great ideas here! A console I can upgrade? ...F*CK YES! Bring it on! "there won't be a required devkit, and there will be no licensing fees to create software for the platform." This is a MASSIVE plus for the console, it will literally have no trouble getting a foothold in the market with this sort of plan, I hope they pull the trigger and ruffle EVERYONE'S feathers.jer_1

Steam Box the new face PC Gaming confirmed?

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[QUOTE="Lithos_"]

[QUOTE="NoodleFighter"]

I'm not so sure about that...

NoodleFighter

You sure?

Nope. Not sure.

EDIT:

With valve's customer support?

That thing'll crash and burn.

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Rep + 1.

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So a prebuilt pc...

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Am I the only one who thinks this is a bad idea ? imho, the video market is already saturated as hell.
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I'll support this if the standards aren't too low that it hinders the potential of game development. In addition, they would also need to update those standards constantly as technology improves. I don't want PC gaming to turn into consoles gaming in where we are stuck with ancient technology for 6 - 8 years and thus stuck with those limitations when it comes to development. If none of these are even part of the plan, then I rather keep the lassie-faire PC gaming tradition.
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Am I the only one who thinks this is a bad idea ? imho, the video market is already saturated as hell. Nonstop-Madness
As far as pushing hardware, I agree. The world needs less systems and more "clients" (as in, Xbox software client that runs licensed Xbox games, a Nintendo client, PS Client, etc. that can all run from a computer with the proper specifications).
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I still have trouble believing this. If they do decide to do this then all I can say is good luck, if this failed it could very well sink the business.
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I still have trouble believing this. If they do decide to do this then all I can say is good luck, if this failed it could very well sink the business.meetroid8

Chances are pretty good it's fake.

One of the giveaways is the nvidia gpu, valve is partners with amd.

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[QUOTE="meetroid8"]I still have trouble believing this. If they do decide to do this then all I can say is good luck, if this failed it could very well sink the business.topgunmv

Chances are pretty good it's fake.

One of the giveaways is the nvidia gpu, valve is partners with amd.

That doesn't mean anything.
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This is going to be supplied by Pre-built companies, such as Alienware, Dell, HP, etc. You mine as well just call it junk.

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[QUOTE="meetroid8"]I still have trouble believing this. If they do decide to do this then all I can say is good luck, if this failed it could very well sink the business.topgunmv

Chances are pretty good it's fake.

One of the giveaways is the nvidia gpu, valve is partners with amd.

the only thing I saw them partner with AMD for was to have Steam auto update drivers for AMD users

They're parnters with AlienWare too so what does that say :P

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I would rather see Steam integrated into the WiiU with mouse and keyboard support. There would be no need for a secondary console.
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Umm can i still use my PC and 360 controller until they make these cheap and more efficient?
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[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

[QUOTE="meetroid8"]I still have trouble believing this. If they do decide to do this then all I can say is good luck, if this failed it could very well sink the business.ShadowDeathX

Chances are pretty good it's fake.

One of the giveaways is the nvidia gpu, valve is partners with amd.

That doesn't mean anything.

Well, it means they are partners with AMD.
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Am I the only one who thinks this is a bad idea ? imho, the video market is already saturated as hell. Nonstop-Madness
PC gamers are mostly steam users are so i dont see how this oversturate, it depends how this console will have to offer, if it's gonna be PC in diffrent package.... i say it's good option to atact console fans to PC market :)
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I would rather see Steam integrated into the WiiU with mouse and keyboard support. There would be no need for a secondary console.MercenaryMafia
WiiU is PPC machine, it won't magically run PC games, if Steam would come to WiiU it would be just a online service to support multiplayer, which won't guerranty that games from steam will decide to port games over
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I still have trouble believing this. If they do decide to do this then all I can say is good luck, if this failed it could very well sink the business.meetroid8
It wouldn't sink the business, the owners were multi-millionaires before they started Steam. They could only have more money now.
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[QUOTE="meetroid8"]I still have trouble believing this. If they do decide to do this then all I can say is good luck, if this failed it could very well sink the business.topgunmv

Chances are pretty good it's fake.

One of the giveaways is the nvidia gpu, valve is partners with amd.

What game is that in your sig? On topic: I have mixed feelings about a Valve console.
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[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

[QUOTE="meetroid8"]I still have trouble believing this. If they do decide to do this then all I can say is good luck, if this failed it could very well sink the business.Jipset

Chances are pretty good it's fake.

One of the giveaways is the nvidia gpu, valve is partners with amd.

What game is that in your sig? On topic: I have mixed feelings about a Valve console.

Hard Reset.

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I would rather just use Steam on my PC...
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Steam box prototype leaked as it seems... or so they say

Steam box prototype?

Tweet: "Built this tiny PC. i7 quad core, 8GB ram, Zotac Z-68 mobo w/ onnboard Nvidia mobile gfx. Runs Portal 2 FAST."
Note: This is the demo unit they used to demo the Big-Picture-Mode to possible hardware partners at CES 2012. This specification DOES NOT necessarily reflect what's going to be used as the "baseline" specification for the final product(s). (contrary to Joshes' story)


That's just a snippet of all the information I've gathered about this project. However, I think these tweets pretty much confirm that Valve is actually working on a console (-like PC).


You may take screenshots of the tweets – just in case they get pulled.

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Hopefully it will have some special software... if not it will be just another branded PC Also, why it needs so much badass wifi? :p it looks like something that could work as router
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what a piece of ****

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emachines+single slot 6850=badass

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239$+234$ cheaper than this garbage.

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Sounds like another Phantom Console. DLC only games are the future but i don't think we are there yet.

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Steam box prototype leaked as it seems... or so they say

Steam box prototype?

Tweet: "Built this tiny PC. i7 quad core, 8GB ram, Zotac Z-68 mobo w/ onnboard Nvidia mobile gfx. Runs Portal 2 FAST."
Note: This is the demo unit they used to demo the Big-Picture-Mode to possible hardware partners at CES 2012. This specification DOES NOT necessarily reflect what's going to be used as the "baseline" specification for the final product(s). (contrary to Joshes' story)


That's just a snippet of all the information I've gathered about this project. However, I think these tweets pretty much confirm that Valve is actually working on a console (-like PC).


You may take screenshots of the tweets – just in case they get pulled.

Lithos_

where's upgradable card? slot

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#46 ShadowriverUB
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Sounds like another Phantom Console. DLC only games are the future but i don't think we are there yet.

Vambran
Most steam users downlaod games already.... so wheres the problem? :>
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#47 ShadowriverUB
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where's upgradable card? slot

wewantdoom4now
What the point of it? It already got good hardware, after a while CPU socket will change yet again and you would need to change whole hardware all together.... you could as well by new Steam box lol ^^ If you want more godly hardware better make your own PC in console formfactor and plug it to TV, i bet main aim here is people who are sceptic to PC gaming and give it a console feel
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If I were Valve I would work with only a single company and market it as a Valve gaming console. The only way they are going to get away with this is if they have strict standards regarding the power of each system. The last thing that needs to happen is one company running a game fine while the other is struggling. If they have a standard that must be followed exactly then it won't be a problem, but then that kind of defeats the purpose of being"open" doesn't it?

Chances are i will buy it, whatever it is. however, if I had the option of a Valve branded box designed by Valve or some piece of junk by Samsung then I would take the Valve one every time.

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where's upgradable card? slot

wewantdoom4now

Since this is supposed to be a console-like PC it may very well be the case that there's no user-friendly process for upgrades. In fact, I'd bet money that the manufacturers of these machines will go to great lengths to ensure that consumers cannot upgrade the machines at all (thus requiring them to upgrade to new Steam Boxes or dish out more money for higher-tier versions with more features).

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#50 bbkkristian
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Valve entering the console business. Unexpected, VERY Unexpected. I'm already seeing some innovation from them and hope that their console does well.