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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] I'll ignore MGS, judging that franchise as a shooter would be unfair to what the franchise is actually aiming for and the genre.
So let me get into RE 5 that game just gets too much flak. I can understand calling it a disappointment(it's a follow up to a vastly superior game), and saying it's the straight to DVD version of something godly(RE 4). That said fundamentally RE 5 was a great third person action game. "OMG YOU CANT WALK and SHOOT" Big deal? you adapt. The controls were tight and responsive to the point where you had to be an exceptionally incompetent(that part wasn't aimed at you) to not really understand. While the forced coop killed the single player aspect of the game(Sheva was just too stupid), and sure level design/pacing/boss fights weren't up to snuff with RE 4 it was still one of the better coop games this gen. RE 5 had tight action, and above all else it was built from the ground up to be replayable. If anything it's proof enough that the Japanese devs know how to do a third person action game.
In the case of RE 4 I'll just by high, mighty and preachy. Resident Evil 4 ABSOLUTELY OBLITERATES every third person action game to come after it(that includes Uncharted 2, Gears of War, etc) and even the ones before it(Max Payne being the only one I feel is even worth mentioning anymore). The level design and pacing of that game are still among the best the genre has seen. It's one of the few games that ever got the concept of quick time events down, the game play is still fun today over what 4 different platforms(PC, PS2, Wii, GC), and given how bad boss fights are this gen RE 4 more than holds up. It's still exceptionally good by the standards of today. Especially as a third person shooter/action game.
So I would beg the question why wouldn't that game count? WHen it's so influential to the third person shooter genre, and the guy that made that game is making Vanquish.
jg4xchamp
I really wanted to to like RE5, but... good lord. RE4 is my favorite game of all time, and the only other games that come even remotely close to it, for me anyways, are MGS2, MGS4, and Metroid Prime (that's saying ALOT, considering the rediculously high quality of those games). To be honest, I think RE5 was doomed the second it was announced. I mean, how in the hell could it have possibly lived up to it's predecessor? I guess the main problem was not that it failed to live up to it's predecessor, but that it completely lost all of the things that made RE4 great.
Where was the great cheesy B movie story with the hilariously over the top 80's action film inspired one liners? Where was the memorable protagonist? Where was the insane amounts of tension, suspence, and unrivaled action? The memorable scares (oven man!)? The epicly imaginitive and memorable monsters like Verdugo, U3, Del Lago, and the Regenerators. Hell, the Krauser fight was one of the most badass action packed boss fights I have ever witnessed. I felt like I was fighting against Rambo himself! :shock:
The truth is, RE5 was a GOOD shooter, but I guess that's why I dislike it so much. It was just simply good, and extremely unworthy of being the direct sequel to such a masterpiece. Sheva alone dropped the quality significantly. Also, the way how they just
Wow, I wasn't expecting to go on that long... /end rant
I will not deny RE 5 not being in the same league of quality as RE 4. That much Aljosa and Alxjn could probably do better than me in terms of ripping it a new one. I also won't hold it against the fanbase for knocking the game so much because of that and being so gung-ho shooter.
That said I had a ton of fun playing it coop with a friend. From a coop game standpoint man outside of Left 4 Dead and the Gears of War campaigns I haven't really had that much with a coop game. Fighting through the waves of enemies, from set piece to set piece, and one fun boss battle after another was fun. Plus the cheesyness of RE has always been entertaining for just the gloriously bad dialogue. Or How Chris punches a BOULDER!! COMPLETE GLOBAL SATURATION
I mean I can understand being disappointed by the game, and I won't necessarily hold it against someone to hate the game for it. I hate games for plenty of petty reasons(although being Boring is not petty, and Dragon Age sets a high bar for boring). That said the coop was a blast. Honestly think it was well worth the price tag for a good run with a friend.Well I did have a good time playing through the coop with a friend. Not anywhere near the extent of fun I had playing L4D with friends, but I enjoyed it about as much as I did Gears 1/2 and Army of Two 1/2 on coop. I guess that was the one redeeming quality...
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