Vanquish Producer: PlayStation 3 "sports car", 360 "car everyone

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#1 Blazerdt47
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Vanquish Producer: PlayStation 3 is a "sports car" While 360 is a "car that everybody's driving"


This could get ugly. So before we move forward, we apologize for any flamebaiting that may take place in the comments section.

Platinum Games Atsushi Inaba, a producer on shooter Vanquish, has highlighted differences between PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 by comparing the two consoles to cars.

"The PS3 is kind of like a sports car that's very high-performance and specific in its usage, whereas the 360 is more like a car that everybody's driving," he told VG247 at E3.

"It doesn't have the same range as a sports car, but it has more versatility."


Platinum is using the PlayStation 3 as its lead platform for Vanquish after their previous effort, Bayonetta, was criticized because the PlayStation version was viewed as substantially inferior to the Xbox 360 version.

"It's about adapting your game to those two sorts of different frameworks.

"That's where we're focusing. Fundamentally, the gameplay experience itself is the exact same game."

The shooter is being made for both the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360, but it's understandable why the PlayStation 3 is being used as the lead platform. Numerous titles that have been developed using the Xbox 360 as the lead console have experienced problems on the PlayStation 3. Fallout 3 was criticized for having inferior graphics on the PlayStation 3 despite the console's graphical prowess, and Bayonetta suffered from frame-rate issues and other graphical problems as well.


While Inaba's comments could ignite debate between PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 camps, the honest truth is that his comments simply mean that the two are different in their composition, and thus, in how they can developed for. Developing a game for an Xbox 360 isn't the same as developing a game for a PlayStation 3.

It seems that, given the trouble Platinum had with Bayonetta, this is a proper direction for Platinum to take. It would be better for them to try developing with the PlayStation 3 as the lead platform to see whether the transition from PlayStation 3 development to Xbox 360 is smoother and less fraught with graphical issues.

Could other developers take the same approach in order to avoid problems that they have run into when porting? It's possible.


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#2 racing1750
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So a Xbox 360 is a Ford mondeo, and a PS3 is a Mazda MX-5 :P
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#3 fastr
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so.. what he is saying is.. PS3 owners, please buy my product! I know we put out a horrible version of a game last time.. but really, we love the ps3, it's awesome!
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#4 farnham
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Shinji Mikami = God

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#5 LordRork
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So what they're saying is that the PS3 is the car you bring out twice a year when it's not raining and everyone thinks you're a bit of a tool for having it (even though they secretly want one) while the 360 is what everyone owns, accepts and is generally happy with and can take a bit of punishment.

Sometimes analogies really don't work.

My PC? Well, that's the A-Team van. Fast, lots of room, black...and ain't no foo' gonna touch it, sucka*.

*This metaphor may have wandered slightly.

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#6 tbone802
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Since when did sports cars become less fun to drive then normal cars?
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#7 Riverwolf007
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that's a pretty stupid analogy, a more accurate one would be the 360 is a car and the ps3 is the same car but the interiors are slightly different.

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#8 hard_body79
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this...should be interesting

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#9 Ultizer
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yeah bayonetta was great on a sports car

no thanks, skipping halo of wars

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#10 FlamesOfGrey
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Sega did the Bayonetta port (Supposedly a PG member watched over it). Vanquish will be the game to show what Platinum Games can actually do with the PS3.
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#11 Mestitia
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We all know this 8)

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#12 bigboss1203
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so.. what he is saying is.. PS3 owners, please buy my product! I know we put out a horrible version of a game last time.. but really, we love the ps3, it's awesome!fastr
Haha good point, I think they are trying to make up for Bayonetta :P
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#13 RTUUMM
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We all know this 8)

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pretty much
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#14 Oonga
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Is Vanquish releasing this year?

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so seing as how they failed to deliver a solid game on said "sports car" doesnt that make them the regular gasoline and other developers like naughty dog premium? Its ideal for your "everyone car" and gets the job done wihtout complaints, and I mean sure you can put regular unleaded in a sports car, but it isnt competent enough to get the same performance as premium gasoline. So in other words they admit that they suck as a developer...

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#16 Dead-Memories
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Japanese bias, nothing more to see here.

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#17 Espada12
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Japanese bias, nothing more to see here.

Dead-Memories

lol... carmack also said the PS3 has more potential processing power.. US bias??

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#18 Dead-Memories
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[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"]

Japanese bias, nothing more to see here.

lol... carmack also said the PS3 has more potential processing power.. US bias??

was obviously sarcastic but sure.
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#20 Espada12
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[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"]

Japanese bias, nothing more to see here.

Dead-Memories

lol... carmack also said the PS3 has more potential processing power.. US bias??

was obviously sarcastic but sure.

That was not obviously sarcastic at all...

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#21 Kickinurass
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If anything, the cars (consoles) are nearly the same - except I'd say the 360 is automatic and the PS3 has a stick shift.

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Thank God i own a PS3 !! :P ...
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#23 Androvinus
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good stufff. vanquish looks awesome.
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so seing as how they failed to deliver a solid game on said "sports car" doesnt that make them the regular gasoline and other developers like naughty dog premium? Its ideal for your "everyone car" and gets the job done wihtout complaints, and I mean sure you can put regular unleaded in a sports car, but it isnt competent enough to get the same performance as premium gasoline. So in other words they admit that they suck as a developer...

tutt3r
Except Platinum Games didn't port Bayonetta on the sports car Sega did.
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#25 kuraimen
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This is common knowledge :)
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#26 Dead-Memories
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[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"][QUOTE="Espada12"]

lol... carmack also said the PS3 has more potential processing power.. US bias??

was obviously sarcastic but sure.

That was not obviously sarcastic at all...

your sarcasm detector skills are impressive
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#27 WhenCicadasCry
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For ****s sake, didn't the guy who designed the Cell CPU say that the PS3 and 360 are about equal in power. -_-

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#28 locopatho
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That'd be grand if we could see some proof :) As it is, ye're one game on this consoles did horribly on PS3, so should prob be quiet for now ;)
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#29 Espada12
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[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"] was obviously sarcastic but sure. Dead-Memories

That was not obviously sarcastic at all...

your sarcasm detector skills are impressive

Clearly they are, I took alot of realise you weren't being sarcastic there.

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#30 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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So are we to expect an equal version on both systems?
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#31 kuraimen
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For ****s sake, didn't the guy who designed the Cell CPU say that the PS3 and 360 are about equal in power. -_-

WhenCicadasCry
Nope, anyone with computer knowledge knows that they are very different machines and the PS3 has a processing potential much greater than the 360. The trick is in how you use that potential.
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#32 rolo107
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Don't these guys know that fanboys will cling onto these words and use them as ammo in this endless debate? Probably not, but it seems like everyday, someone is saying something. They often conflict each other as well. Although in this case, it's clearly meant as an example for the differences between the two, cell vs. no cell.
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#33 190586385885857957282413308806
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Cool so that must mean I own a sports car, a standard car, a mini cooper (wii) and a G5 Airplane (PC)

Big **** Playa!

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#34 AAllxxjjnn
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Well, he's wrong. PC is the sports car. PS3 and 360 are the cars everyone drives.
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#35 ohthemanatee
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huh-huh... so when the game launches and if the game happens to run better on the 360 what conclusion should I draw?
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#36 treedoor
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Developing a shooter with the PS3 in mind 8)

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#37 vaderhater
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Ya a Miata is considered a sports car too....................................

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#38 vaderhater
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[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

For ****s sake, didn't the guy who designed the Cell CPU say that the PS3 and 360 are about equal in power. -_-

kuraimen

Nope, anyone with computer knowledge knows that they are very different machines and the PS3 has a processing potential much greater than the 360. The trick is in how you use that potential.

Thats right and they would also know what bottlenecks are and that a better GPU wins out with graphics every time. And unified ram and more ram available is a plus as well.(360)

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#40 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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I'm not sure I understand what that analogy means. No biggie, I'm sure I'm gonna know when the game comes out (which I'm betting is gonna be the same on both systems).
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#42 LookAnDrolL
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Why so much love for these two pieces of worthless OLD plastic A single 2007 GPU is enough to piss all over the PS3 and 360. There no Pandora's box hidden potential, a PS3 its an OLD piece of hardware, that's its quite irrelevant on today's technology. So you may want to stop this silly war now, because its pointless and worthless
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#43 treedoor
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Why so much love for these two pieces of worthless OLD plastic A single 2007 GPU is enough to piss all over the PS3 and 360. There no Pandora's box hidden potential, a PS3 its an OLD piece of hardware, that's its quite irrelevant on today's technology. So you may want to stop this silly war now, because its pointless and worthless LookAnDrolL

Fighting for 2nd place is all they have to live for though

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so.. what he is saying is.. PS3 owners, please buy my product! I know we put out a horrible version of a game last time.. but really, we love the ps3, it's awesome!fastr

yeah, pretty much:lol:

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#45 Pug-Nasty
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Bayonetta was a bad game, this looks worse.

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#46 markinthedark
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so if ps3 is a sport car.... the sports car got beaten by the sedan on bayonetta.

i dont know if i would want an expensive sports car that performs worse than a sedan.

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#47 Cherokee_Jack
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I hate you, Vanquish producer. I don't know your name. But I hate you.
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#48 mccoyca112
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So many sarcastic comments :P

In anycase, Im only slightly interested in vanquish to begin with, so hopefully having ps3 as lead can make it that much more solid.

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#49 vaderhater
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So many sarcastic comments :P

In anycase, Im only slightly interested in vanquish to begin with, so hopefully having ps3 as lead can make it that much more solid.

mccoyca112

Well at the very least on par anyhow.

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#50 dkjestrup
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Well, I'm still puzzled why any multiplat would be made on the 360 first and then ported. Almost every game that was lead on the PS3 and ported to the 360 is nearly identical, while there are big problems when done the other way around. I like to think of it like the 360 is a square, and the PS3 is a narrow rectangle with slightly more area. It's different, but more powerful when done right.