VF 5 developed on PS3 but is graphically superior on X360, whats the excuses?

[QUOTE="Tnasty11"][QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"][QUOTE="GIJames248"]

[QUOTE="Yellow_Rose"]The people using the "extra development time" excuse are totally missing the point.TyrantDragon55

Then maybe you would kindly enlighten us as to what the "point" is. Unless it is bashing the PS3 because most of us can already guess that.

His point is that if the PS3 was so much more powerful than the 360 (like many cows still believe) then a game that was made for it first and then later ported over to the 360 would not look better, regardless of extra development time.

Did I claim the 360 was more powerful than the PS3?

[QUOTE="-Serpahim-"][QUOTE="zero9167"][QUOTE="-Serpahim-"][QUOTE="mingo123"]

[QUOTE="JiveT"]The excuse lemmings use for Oblivion. 1 year later! Even though its not quite been a year.mingo123

there isnt much difference between oblivion ps3 and 360 version

I take it u havent played the PS3 version...and same could be said about VF5 for X360.

Gamespot says:

"The graphics are slightly better, the load times are shorter, and there is a bit of new content in the form of the Knights of the Nine add-on..."

1. that add-on is downloadable on 360, no big deal , atleast 360 owners get the add-on, VF5 on ps3 wont get online
2. "The PlayStation 3 version of The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion is every bit as impressive as the Xbox 360 and PC versions. However, this isn't necessarily the best version of the game. This version does come with the Knights of the Nine add-on, which will add about 10 hours of gameplay to the already lengthy game, but it doesn't come with any of the other downloadable additions made available on the Xbox 360."

Ok, im going to reply in a simple and concise manner so there can be no weasling out of this:

1. Firstly this topic is about graphics, not about addons or online, but about graphics and gamespot clearly states that the PS3 version looks better than the X360 version. Can we agree on that?

2. Now for dessert, lets discuss the whole issue of online and addons. When GS and other review sites rate a game, they rate it based on whats on the disk and is playable FROM DAY ONE. So what if you can PAY to have all these other addons. If they arent available from day 1 with nothing but the game disk, then they dont get included. So as it stands, the PS3 version has more content and better graphics than the X360 version. Can the X360 version potentially have more content? yes, but u have to be willing to PAY and you must have a HDD which automatically eliminates some X360 owners. So basically wat im saying to you is that Oblivion is superior on PS3 than X360 from day one, but if you have the money, you can make Oblivion have more content on the X360 (dunno if they have the graphics patch out yet). Same goes for VF5. Its superior on the X360 on day one, and will continue being so unless they release a PS3 online patch.

most of lemmings thinks 360 is stronger than the ps3Tnasty11

Only the blind ones, most lemmings believe that the 360 is easier to develope for. And they would be correct.

[QUOTE="mingo123"]

[QUOTE="JiveT"]The excuse lemmings use for Oblivion. 1 year later! Even though its not quite been a year.-D3MO-

there isnt much difference between oblivion ps3 and 360 version

LOL :lol:

The reason Oblivion worked at all is because the devs gave up trying to make it work conventionally and had to 1) replicate the data several times accross the disc to compensate for the Blu Ray slow-as-molasses access speeds, and 2) install 5 GB on the Hard Drive to compensate for the lack of Video Ram. Had the 360 installed 5GB of data on it's HD, it would have loaded even faster than the PS3 (but still not as fast as a high end PC.)

As to why VF5 is better on 360, yeah I'm sure the development time helped, but anyone arguing that the PS3 and 360 are equally easy to develop for is a moron. I can show youat least 5 prominant devs who suggest otherwise. The PS3 sucks from a developer standpoint. Just ask John Carmack, Gabe Newell, Todd Howard, Tomunobu Itagaki, David Jaffe, or anyone else who hasn't signed their soul away to Sony with hefty exlusivity deals.

More dev time, just like Oblivion.BillGreen68

Devs are lazy. They ported the game in a week and messed around the rest of the time.:P

The 360 is just a better machine.

Cow logic, FTW.

[QUOTE="mingo123"][QUOTE="-Serpahim-"][QUOTE="zero9167"][QUOTE="-Serpahim-"][QUOTE="mingo123"]

[QUOTE="JiveT"]The excuse lemmings use for Oblivion. 1 year later! Even though its not quite been a year.-Serpahim-

there isnt much difference between oblivion ps3 and 360 version

I take it u havent played the PS3 version...and same could be said about VF5 for X360.

Gamespot says:

"The graphics are slightly better, the load times are shorter, and there is a bit of new content in the form of the Knights of the Nine add-on..."

1. that add-on is downloadable on 360, no big deal , atleast 360 owners get the add-on, VF5 on ps3 wont get online
2. "The PlayStation 3 version of The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion is every bit as impressive as the Xbox 360 and PC versions. However, this isn't necessarily the best version of the game. This version does come with the Knights of the Nine add-on, which will add about 10 hours of gameplay to the already lengthy game, but it doesn't come with any of the other downloadable additions made available on the Xbox 360."

Ok, im going to reply in a simple and concise manner so there can be no weasling out of this:

1. Firstly this topic is about graphics, not about addons or online, but about graphics and gamespot clearly states that the PS3 version looks better than the X360 version. Can we agree on that?

2. Now for dessert, lets discuss the whole issue of online and addons. When GS and other review sites rate a game, they rate it based on whats on the disk and is playable FROM DAY ONE. So what if you can PAY to have all these other addons. If they arent available from day 1 with nothing but the game disk, then they dont get included. So as it stands, the PS3 version has more content and better graphics than the X360 version. Can the X360 version potentially have more content? yes, but u have to be willing to PAY and you must have a HDD which automatically eliminates some X360 owners. So basically wat im saying to you is that Oblivion is superior on PS3 than X360 from day one, but if you have the money, you can make Oblivion have more content on the X360 (dunno if they have the graphics patch out yet). Same goes for VF5. Its superior on the X360 on day one, and will continue being so unless they release a PS3 online patch.

ok i agree ps3 oblivion looks slightly better, but not enough for such an extra time, VF5 on 360 has waymore improvements

ok i agree ps3 oblivion looks slightly better, but not enough for such an extra time, VF5 on 360 has waymore improvementsmingo123

What, slightly more anti-aliasing?

[QUOTE="mingo123"]ok i agree ps3 oblivion looks slightly better, but not enough for such an extra time, VF5 on 360 has waymore improvements-Spock-

What, slightly more anti-aliasing?

ok i agree ps3 oblivion looks slightly better, but not enough for such an extra time, VF5 on 360 has waymore improvements

mingo123

Fair enough, I cant objectivley prove you are wrong, so i wont aruge with that assessment.

[QUOTE="-Spock-"]

[QUOTE="mingo123"]ok i agree ps3 oblivion looks slightly better, but not enough for such an extra time, VF5 on 360 has waymore improvementsdonalbane

What, slightly more anti-aliasing?

I was referring to VF5 on the 360.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

[QUOTE="GamesRadar"]Sadly, though, that commentary is there at all is just another sign that the series has reached a crossroads. VF has become so hardcore, it's impossible to market to anyone new. This is the culmination of over a decade of evolution, and likely what Yu Suzuki had in his head when he dreamed up the 1993 original. But while fans will adore it, treasure it and possibly dedicate love poems to it, it's quite possibly going to leave a lot of gamers pretty bored.Danthegamingman

buyer beware. If you're not a VF fan already, this game may run you off with your tail between your legs.

after that official thread, it was necessary.

More dev time..

Gee that was easy

"After all that "only PS3 can do Virtua Fighter 5" talk, 360 fans are proud to say the 360 version is graphically superior - by some margin, in fact. Truthfully, the 360 sheen is so apparent in a direct HDMI cable switch comparison, it's like looking at Soul Calibur 2 on Xbox compared to PS2. VF5's here, online, and all is right with the world".

http://www.gamesradar.com/us/xbox360/game/reviews/article.jsp?sectionId=1000&articleId=2007102993539670086&releaseId=2006122111543685040

I can't wait to read the excuses on this one.

Danthegamingman

the same reasons dirt and oblivion look better on ps3? and what about the next cod? thats supposed to be better graphically on the ps3. you 360 fans really get your panties in a bunch of the graphics thing, if you know anything about specs youd know that eventually most ps3 games will be superior? geez,

[QUOTE="mingo123"]

there isnt much difference between oblivion ps3 and 360 version

thegame1980

You're right cause I've had EXTENSIVE play time with both console versions to make that call. Other then a bit more loading in spots on 360 and everything fitting on the Blu-Ray the games are identical.

Simply said an extra year of development does that and NOBODY is owned

[QUOTE="Danthegamingman"]

"After all that "only PS3 can do Virtua Fighter 5" talk, 360 fans are proud to say the 360 version is graphically superior - by some margin, in fact. Truthfully, the 360 sheen is so apparent in a direct HDMI cable switch comparison, it's like looking at Soul Calibur 2 on Xbox compared to PS2. VF5's here, online, and all is right with the world".

http://www.gamesradar.com/us/xbox360/game/reviews/article.jsp?sectionId=1000&articleId=2007102993539670086&releaseId=2006122111543685040

I can't wait to read the excuses on this one.

Bren128

the same reasons dirt and oblivion look better on ps3? and what about the next cod? thats supposed to be better graphically on the ps3. you 360 fans really get your panties in a bunch of the graphics thing, if you know anything about specs youd know that eventually most ps3 games will be superior? geez,

Simply said, its different developers with different amounts of time and time and time again, its 360 that looks better. And if you knew anything about specs, you wouldnt say something that stupid

"Graphically superior" yes, but try not to exaggerate, it's very 'clean' (i.e: little to no aliasing) compared to the PS3 version.And like it or not the 6-8 months wasn't just for the online component (if you actually read the reviews.)

SEGA-AM2 tweaked this version to give it more balance between characters. Added more collectible items in the quest mode, VFtv, achievements (of course), and the marginally improved graphics.

I'd like to know what's the fanboys excuse for ignoring this.

"After all that "only PS3 can do Virtua Fighter 5" talk, 360 fans are proud to say the 360 version is graphically superior - by some margin, in fact. Truthfully, the 360 sheen is so apparent in a direct HDMI cable switch comparison, it's like looking at Soul Calibur 2 on Xbox compared to PS2. VF5's here, online, and all is right with the world".

http://www.gamesradar.com/us/xbox360/game/reviews/article.jsp?sectionId=1000&articleId=2007102993539670086&releaseId=2006122111543685040

I can't wait to read the excuses on this one.

Danthegamingman

Its simple and just like alot of excuses alot of lemmings will say, "With the extra dev time its why it looks better". There u go and the game Oblivion anyone. this thread fails. :P

[QUOTE="thegame1980"][QUOTE="mingo123"]

there isnt much difference between oblivion ps3 and 360 version

WuTangG

You're right cause I've had EXTENSIVE play time with both console versions to make that call. Other then a bit more loading in spots on 360 and everything fitting on the Blu-Ray the games are identical.

Simply said an extra year of development does that and NOBODY is owned

And like u lemmings like to say, "Enjoy playing our leftovers" lmao. damn I cant wait for Tekken 6. :)

DiRT looks far worse, they cut so much to keep the framerate steady.

WuTangG

Can you say denial? :lol:

[QUOTE="WuTangG"][QUOTE="thegame1980"][QUOTE="mingo123"]

there isnt much difference between oblivion ps3 and 360 version

squallff8_fan

You're right cause I've had EXTENSIVE play time with both console versions to make that call. Other then a bit more loading in spots on 360 and everything fitting on the Blu-Ray the games are identical.

Simply said an extra year of development does that and NOBODY is owned

And like u lemmings like to say, "Enjoy playing our leftovers" lmao. damn I cant wait for Tekken 6. :)

Gasping for straws are we, i really would be ticked off if i paid $60 for a barebones fighting game:)

[QUOTE="WuTangG"][QUOTE="thegame1980"][QUOTE="mingo123"]

there isnt much difference between oblivion ps3 and 360 version

squallff8_fan

You're right cause I've had EXTENSIVE play time with both console versions to make that call. Other then a bit more loading in spots on 360 and everything fitting on the Blu-Ray the games are identical.

Simply said an extra year of development does that and NOBODY is owned

And like u lemmings like to say, "Enjoy playing our leftovers" lmao. damn I cant wait for Tekken 6. :)

T6 will own it. But VF5 will now last owners a very long time. It's being opened up to a whole new world.

[QUOTE="WuTangG"]DiRT looks far worse, they cut so much to keep the framerate steady.

ball_of_air

Can you say denial? :lol:

Actually they did, I've seen the comparisons. However it was usually minor stuff I probably wouldn't notice in motion anyway, I'd rather have the smoother framerate, as I didn't care for that games performance at all on 360.

[QUOTE="ball_of_air"][QUOTE="WuTangG"]DiRT looks far worse, they cut so much to keep the framerate steady.

Corvin

Can you say denial? :lol:

Actually they did, I've seen the comparisons. However it was usually minor stuff I probably wouldn't notice in motion anyway, I'd rather have the smoother framerate, as I didn't care for that games performance at all on 360.

[QUOTE="Danthegamingman"]

"After all that "only PS3 can do Virtua Fighter 5" talk, 360 fans are proud to say the 360 version is graphically superior - by some margin, in fact. Truthfully, the 360 sheen is so apparent in a direct HDMI cable switch comparison, it's like looking at Soul Calibur 2 on Xbox compared to PS2. VF5's here, online, and all is right with the world".

http://www.gamesradar.com/us/xbox360/game/reviews/article.jsp?sectionId=1000&articleId=2007102993539670086&releaseId=2006122111543685040

I can't wait to read the excuses on this one.

Bren128

the same reasons dirt and oblivion look better on ps3? and what about the next cod? thats supposed to be better graphically on the ps3. you 360 fans really get your panties in a bunch of the graphics thing, if you know anything about specs youd know that eventually most ps3 games will be superior? geez,

Cows were already owned when VF5 was announced with online play for the x360 only. Therefore, no further ownage is needed.

However, there are cows who claim they don't want online play for VF5 and deny ownage.

Also, although I can't prove it, I remember cows claiming VF5 was only possible on the PS3 and that the x360 couldn't "handle" VF5. I don't believe Lems ever claimed Oblivion was impossible on the PS3.

you 360 fans really get your panties in a bunch of the graphics thing, if you know anything about specs youd know that eventually most ps3 games will be superior? geez, Bren128

I'm not a lem, but I certainly know a great deal about computer specs and how game code uses those specs.

I know enough to say that anyone claiming the PS3 is clearly "superior" to the x360 doesn't know about said "specs" and is just parroting Sony.

VF5 will be a great game no doubt. The marginal graphical enhancements mean nothing to a fighting fan... the character models are all you reall will stare at, so who gives a flying rip about the backgrounds having slightly more AA? :| I just need 60 FPS and smooth/spot-on character models/hit detection.

Lastly.... they did add/balance stuff in this game compared to the PS3 version. It wasn't all spent on "improving the graphics."

I swear.... fanboys argu over the most ridiculous stuff. The 360 game pad is still the WORST for fighters.... That much is true. So pony up for an arcade stick, should you really want to take this game seriously.

it's obvious they spent extra time on it....

the difference is, the margin is much higher between the ps3 version and the 360 than what was seen when oblivion released for the ps3...

very, very little upgrade on the ps3..

[QUOTE="Bren128"] you 360 fans really get your panties in a bunch of the graphics thing, if you know anything about specs youd know that eventually most ps3 games will be superior? geez, LosDaddie

I'm not a lem, but I certainly know a great deal about computer specs and how game code uses those specs.

I know enough to say that anyone claiming the PS3 is clearly "superior" to the x360 doesn't know about said "specs" and is just parroting Sony.

Wow, can you believe that guy?

It's hard to believe that there are still people out there who believe all the Sony propaganda.

[QUOTE="Bren128"][QUOTE="Danthegamingman"]

"After all that "only PS3 can do Virtua Fighter 5" talk, 360 fans are proud to say the 360 version is graphically superior - by some margin, in fact. Truthfully, the 360 sheen is so apparent in a direct HDMI cable switch comparison, it's like looking at Soul Calibur 2 on Xbox compared to PS2. VF5's here, online, and all is right with the world".

http://www.gamesradar.com/us/xbox360/game/reviews/article.jsp?sectionId=1000&articleId=2007102993539670086&releaseId=2006122111543685040

I can't wait to read the excuses on this one.

WuTangG

the same reasons dirt and oblivion look better on ps3? and what about the next cod? thats supposed to be better graphically on the ps3. you 360 fans really get your panties in a bunch of the graphics thing, if you know anything about specs youd know that eventually most ps3 games will be superior? geez,

Simply said, its different developers with different amounts of time and time and time again, its 360 that looks better. And if you knew anything about specs, you wouldnt say something that stupid

go read the dirt reviews, the ps3 version is superior. Right now devs are only using 1/3 to a half of the cell power(read Q and A for uncharted last week, the devs says that specifically) leaving me to believe once the cell power has been fully utilized the games will look better, i never said thered be a huge difference, but a difference none the less. Also im going to happily remember this thread and i will be pming some of you :)

[QUOTE="WuTangG"][QUOTE="Bren128"][QUOTE="Danthegamingman"]

"After all that "only PS3 can do Virtua Fighter 5" talk, 360 fans are proud to say the 360 version is graphically superior - by some margin, in fact. Truthfully, the 360 sheen is so apparent in a direct HDMI cable switch comparison, it's like looking at Soul Calibur 2 on Xbox compared to PS2. VF5's here, online, and all is right with the world".

http://www.gamesradar.com/us/xbox360/game/reviews/article.jsp?sectionId=1000&articleId=2007102993539670086&releaseId=2006122111543685040

I can't wait to read the excuses on this one.

Bren128

the same reasons dirt and oblivion look better on ps3? and what about the next cod? thats supposed to be better graphically on the ps3. you 360 fans really get your panties in a bunch of the graphics thing, if you know anything about specs youd know that eventually most ps3 games will be superior? geez,

Simply said, its different developers with different amounts of time and time and time again, its 360 that looks better. And if you knew anything about specs, you wouldnt say something that stupid

go read the dirt reviews, the ps3 version is superior. Right now devs are only using 1/3 to a half of the cell power(read Q and A for uncharted last week, the devs says that specifically) leaving me to believe once the cell power has been fully utilized the games will look better, i never said thered be a huge difference, but a difference none the less. Also im going to happily remember this thread and i will be pming some of you :)

Oh teh Cell hype:roll:

But which sold the best 0.o? SC2 was best on ps2,even tho i liked the Gamecube version cause of link.Hitamaru-homia

[QUOTE="Bren128"] you 360 fans really get your panties in a bunch of the graphics thing, if you know anything about specs youd know that eventually most ps3 games will be superior? geez, LosDaddie

I'm not a lem, but I certainly know a great deal about computer specs and how game code uses those specs.

I know enough to say that anyone claiming the PS3 is clearly "superior" to the x360 doesn't know about said "specs" and is just parroting Sony.

i said will be superior , at the moment no. the ps3 is very difficult to develop for while the 360 is not. But if you know your specs then youd know that 1/3 to a half of the cell is being used by develepors. I firmly believe we will see a noticeable difference in graphics once the devs start using about 75% to 80% of the cell power. but i dont expect this for AT LEAST 6 more months.in a years time hopefully they can have about 90% utilized, but i think that would be wishful thinking.

More dev time, just like Oblivion.BillGreen68

[QUOTE="Bren128"][QUOTE="WuTangG"][QUOTE="Bren128"][QUOTE="Danthegamingman"]

"After all that "only PS3 can do Virtua Fighter 5" talk, 360 fans are proud to say the 360 version is graphically superior - by some margin, in fact. Truthfully, the 360 sheen is so apparent in a direct HDMI cable switch comparison, it's like looking at Soul Calibur 2 on Xbox compared to PS2. VF5's here, online, and all is right with the world".

http://www.gamesradar.com/us/xbox360/game/reviews/article.jsp?sectionId=1000&articleId=2007102993539670086&releaseId=2006122111543685040

I can't wait to read the excuses on this one.

WuTangG

the same reasons dirt and oblivion look better on ps3? and what about the next cod? thats supposed to be better graphically on the ps3. you 360 fans really get your panties in a bunch of the graphics thing, if you know anything about specs youd know that eventually most ps3 games will be superior? geez,

Simply said, its different developers with different amounts of time and time and time again, its 360 that looks better. And if you knew anything about specs, you wouldnt say something that stupid

go read the dirt reviews, the ps3 version is superior. Right now devs are only using 1/3 to a half of the cell power(read Q and A for uncharted last week, the devs says that specifically) leaving me to believe once the cell power has been fully utilized the games will look better, i never said thered be a huge difference, but a difference none the less. Also im going to happily remember this thread and i will be pming some of you :)

Oh teh Cell hype:roll:

yes it is up to developers. but one system is being pushed to its LIMITS while the other is not. and i dont understand what you guys dont understand about that. in the uncharted interview he specifically said right now there using 1/3 to a half of the cell power, so what do you think games willlook like when the cell is fully utilized?

"After all that "only PS3 can do Virtua Fighter 5" talk, 360 fans are proud to say the 360 version is graphically superior - by some margin, in fact. Truthfully, the 360 sheen is so apparent in a direct HDMI cable switch comparison, it's like looking at Soul Calibur 2 on Xbox compared to PS2. VF5's here, online, and all is right with the world".

http://www.gamesradar.com/us/xbox360/game/reviews/article.jsp?sectionId=1000&articleId=2007102993539670086&releaseId=2006122111543685040

I can't wait to read the excuses on this one.

Danthegamingman

Who ever said that ONLY the PS3 could do VF5? I don't remember that ever happening.

As for the reason it looks better? The 360 had more dev time than the PS3 version. I will point you towards VF4 for the PS2. SEGA slapped the game together in 6 months and released it. While the graphics were really good, the game had tons of jaggies and bad flickering. 6 months after that they released the new verison of VF4 which not only had no jaggies or flickering, but they added two characters.

That's just how Sega ghas operated for the last 5 years. If they don't rush out a half-arsed version of the game, and then release a proper verions a few months later, then they put out some game that can be beated in two hours. THis is true of every game they make lately for all systems. Sega sucks...but that is just my bias talking since I've always hated Sega's work ethic.

Anyway, long story short...VF5 for 360 has been in development longer. So much like the PS2 analogy, they fixed the problems in the first (PS3) game.

yes it is up to developers. but one system is being pushed to its LIMITS while the other is not. and i dont understand what you guys dont understand about that. in the uncharted interview he specifically said right now there using 1/3 to a half of the cell power, so what do you think games willlook like when the cell is fully utilized?

Bren128

Please have some relevence what you are talking about, PLEASE

[QUOTE="Danthegamingman"]

"After all that "only PS3 can do Virtua Fighter 5" talk, 360 fans are proud to say the 360 version is graphically superior - by some margin, in fact. Truthfully, the 360 sheen is so apparent in a direct HDMI cable switch comparison, it's like looking at Soul Calibur 2 on Xbox compared to PS2. VF5's here, online, and all is right with the world".

http://www.gamesradar.com/us/xbox360/game/reviews/article.jsp?sectionId=1000&articleId=2007102993539670086&releaseId=2006122111543685040

I can't wait to read the excuses on this one.

ZIMdoom

Who ever said that ONLY the PS3 could do VF5? I don't remember that ever happening.

As for the reason it looks better? The 360 had more dev time than the PS3 version. I will point you towards VF4 for the PS2. SEGA slapped the game together in 6 months and released it. While the graphics were really good, the game had tons of jaggies and bad flickering. 6 months after that they released the new verison of VF4 which not only had no jaggies or flickering, but they added two characters.

That's just how Sega ghas operated for the last 5 years. If they don't rush out a half-arsed version of the game, and then release a proper verions a few months later, then they put out some game that can be beated in two hours. THis is true of every game they make lately for all systems. Sega sucks...but that is just my bias talking since I've always hated Sega's work ethic.

Anyway, long story short...VF5 for 360 has been in development longer. So much like the PS2 analogy, they fixed the problems in the first (PS3) game.

[QUOTE="Bren128"]

yes it is up to developers. but one system is being pushed to its LIMITS while the other is not. and i dont understand what you guys dont understand about that. in the uncharted interview he specifically said right now there using 1/3 to a half of the cell power, so what do you think games willlook like when the cell is fully utilized?

WuTangG

Please have some relevence what you are talking about, PLEASE

ok please get more technical with me then. if you have a problem with what ive said, then please point it out.

[QUOTE="WuTangG"][QUOTE="Bren128"]

yes it is up to developers. but one system is being pushed to its LIMITS while the other is not. and i dont understand what you guys dont understand about that. in the uncharted interview he specifically said right now there using 1/3 to a half of the cell power, so what do you think games willlook like when the cell is fully utilized?

Bren128

Please have some relevence what you are talking about, PLEASE

ok please get more technical with me then. if you have a problem with what ive said, then please point it out.

When did we get to the technicalities anyway, i simply stated how they degraded the visual quite a bit to get a steady framerate in DiRT, and its most noticable in the lighting. It happens with plenty of games, its all down to developement.

But im getting ready for your trash that you have been fed from E3 2005 by Sony.:|

[QUOTE="Bren128"][QUOTE="WuTangG"][QUOTE="Bren128"]

yes it is up to developers. but one system is being pushed to its LIMITS while the other is not. and i dont understand what you guys dont understand about that. in the uncharted interview he specifically said right now there using 1/3 to a half of the cell power, so what do you think games willlook like when the cell is fully utilized?

WuTangG

Please have some relevence what you are talking about, PLEASE

ok please get more technical with me then. if you have a problem with what ive said, then please point it out.

When did we get to the technicalities anyway, i simply stated how they degraded the visual quite a bit to get a steady framerate in DiRT, and its most noticable in the lighting. It happens with plenty of games, its all down to developement.

But im getting ready for your trash that you have been fed from E3 2005 by Sony.:|

i really dont see where they ''cut so much'' out of dirt. the ps3 version is preferred over the 360 version.

Okay something I don't get about this. The 360 version has more content, better graphics and online mode because of extra development time, right? So why didn't they just delay the PS3 version and put the extra time in to both, instead of releasing an inferior version for the PS3?Corvin

SEGA wanted to release it within the PS3 launch window. A patch is an option if they can be assed.

Its humanely impossible to produce a game of that calibur in 6 MEASLY months. Stop pulling facts out of your backside.
WuTangG

What are you even talking about? It has nothing to do with my explanation of why the 360 version is better (more dev time).

I love how you tell me to stop pulling facts out of my backside...yet you don't address or bother trying to rebut a single thing I said. I can only assume that what I said is fact and you are just being a troll.