VF 5 interview. Sorry Sony faithful. No online update for you.

http://games.kikizo.com/features/sega_am2_interview_sept07_p1.asp

Sucks Ps owners, but look at the bright side if you have a 360 you can get it.

It was expected.

Sega wouldn't risk PS3 version having that much option, because they simply make too much money from arcades.

...This is what I pay 50 bucks for. PS3 fans can talk about their free service all you want...but when games are online for the 360 and NOT for the ps3, how can the psn service be anything but free?

They'll make the excuses..but the bottom line is that a former exclusive Sony franchise is better on the 360 than on thePS3.

They don't care about Virtua Fighter, they have Tekken and Soul Calibur.

That's probably the answer you'll get.

...This is what I pay 50 bucks for. PS3 fans can talk about their free service all you want...but when games are online for the 360 and NOT for the ps3, how can the psn service be anything but free?

They'll make the excuses..but the bottom line is that a former exclusive Sony franchise is better on the 360 than on thePS3.

bezaire2005

lol

Xbox Live has nothing to do with Virtua Fighter 5 getting online mode.

doesnt really matter. VF5 online will be a scrubfest anyways. The lag will make any type of upper level play worthlessJada_Kiss

very true, but I still want Version C and online mode as option.

Can't help but to feel bitter towards Sega over this. They are giving us half @$$ed effort.

[QUOTE="bezaire2005"]

...This is what I pay 50 bucks for. PS3 fans can talk about their free service all you want...but when games are online for the 360 and NOT for the ps3, how can the psn service be anything but free?

They'll make the excuses..but the bottom line is that a former exclusive Sony franchise is better on the 360 than on thePS3.

TriangleHard

lol

Xbox Live has nothing to do with Virtua Fighter 5 getting online mode.

I'm not talking about the service itself..i'm talking about the games that are supported by the service...or not supported. I'd rather pay for support than not pay and have games that don't support online.

If you don't understand let me know...perhaps i can figure out a way to say it slower.

doesnt really matter. VF5 online will be a scrubfest anyways. The lag will make any type of upper level play worthlessJada_Kiss

..............

Did anyone expect replies like this?

[QUOTE="bezaire2005"]

...This is what I pay 50 bucks for. PS3 fans can talk about their free service all you want...but when games are online for the 360 and NOT for the ps3, how can the psn service be anything but free?

They'll make the excuses..but the bottom line is that a former exclusive Sony franchise is better on the 360 than on thePS3.

TriangleHard

lol

Xbox Live has nothing to do with Virtua Fighter 5 getting online mode.

...This is what I pay 50 bucks for. PS3 fans can talk about their free service all you want...but when games are online for the 360 and NOT for the ps3, how can the psn service be anything but free?

They'll make the excuses..but the bottom line is that a former exclusive Sony franchise is better on the 360 than on thePS3.

bezaire2005

I agree sir, just pay attention to the spin or the damage control from some. And oh yea. ALL 360 games and I mean EVERY SINGLE 360 game has some sort of online componet. Same CANT be said for PS3.. :shock:

[QUOTE="TriangleHard"][QUOTE="bezaire2005"]

...This is what I pay 50 bucks for. PS3 fans can talk about their free service all you want...but when games are online for the 360 and NOT for the ps3, how can the psn service be anything but free?

They'll make the excuses..but the bottom line is that a former exclusive Sony franchise is better on the 360 than on thePS3.

bezaire2005

lol

Xbox Live has nothing to do with Virtua Fighter 5 getting online mode.

I'm not talking about the service itself..i'm talking about the games that are supported by the service...or not supported. I'd rather pay for support than not pay and have games that don't support online.

If you don't understand let me know...perhaps i can figure out a way to say it slower.

Most games use P2P connection to allow players to play online games.

Even if Sega does make PS3 version online play, it doesn't mean Sega will have to spend lots of money putting up dedicated server because it will be P2P. Most of the cost for making online version for PS3 would be programming it.

Xbox Live doesn't automatically make developers support online play. Sega has their own issues why they aren't supporting online play for many of PS3 games and supporting Xbox 360 with online play. It's not because you are paying 50 dollars a year for the service.

[QUOTE="Jada_Kiss"]doesnt really matter. VF5 online will be a scrubfest anyways. The lag will make any type of upper level play worthlessbezaire2005

..............

Did anyone expect replies like this?

I did! :lol:

[QUOTE="bezaire2005"][QUOTE="TriangleHard"][QUOTE="bezaire2005"]

...This is what I pay 50 bucks for. PS3 fans can talk about their free service all you want...but when games are online for the 360 and NOT for the ps3, how can the psn service be anything but free?

They'll make the excuses..but the bottom line is that a former exclusive Sony franchise is better on the 360 than on thePS3.

TriangleHard

lol

Xbox Live has nothing to do with Virtua Fighter 5 getting online mode.

I'm not talking about the service itself..i'm talking about the games that are supported by the service...or not supported. I'd rather pay for support than not pay and have games that don't support online.

If you don't understand let me know...perhaps i can figure out a way to say it slower.

Most games use P2P connection to allow players to play online games.

Even if Sega does make PS3 version online play, it doesn't mean Sega will have to spend lots of money putting up dedicated server because it will be P2P. Most of the cost for making online version for PS3 would be programming it.

Xbox Live doesn't automatically make developers support online play. Sega has their own issues why they aren't supporting online play for many of PS3 games and supporting Xbox 360 with online play. It's not because you are paying 50 dollars a year for the service.

That's not what I said. I didn't say that it's just because I'm paying $50 a year for the service.

My point is simple: You have a choice. You can either pay $50 and be gaurenteed that every game you buy will have some kind of online content, or you can pay nothing and completly miss out on the endless replayabilitywhat online adds. That's what it ultimatly comes down too...and for about $4 a month i know that personally I would rather have the best copy of a game out there.

AGAIN: I'm not saying that the reason why it's on the 360 is because MS charges $50. I can't make this any clearer.

But essentially, if you buy VF5 for the ps3 an I buy VF5 for the 360...who got the better deal? They are both the same price, the only difference is that you would be getting an inferior product.

[QUOTE="Jada_Kiss"]doesnt really matter. VF5 online will be a scrubfest anyways. The lag will make any type of upper level play worthlessbezaire2005

..............

Did anyone expect replies like this?

it's true. with the system as a whole requiring precision timing; evasions, juggling, breaking throws, etc

online will reduce the whole gameplay to throwing out strings and getting randomly hit by them. thats all.

Sega knows this and they are just throwing this out to the casuals. And of course sales.

[QUOTE="bezaire2005"]

[QUOTE="Jada_Kiss"]doesnt really matter. VF5 online will be a scrubfest anyways. The lag will make any type of upper level play worthlessJada_Kiss

..............

Did anyone expect replies like this?

it's true. with the system as a whole requiring precision timing; evasions, juggling, breaking throws, etc

online will reduce the whole gameplay to throwing out strings and getting randomly hit by them. thats all.

Sega knows this and they are just throwing this out to the casuals. And of course sales.

but that still doesn't mean better A.I and version C wouldn't benefit PS3 owners.

The answer for this is simple. Sega simply wants to keep Japanese gamers out of this option and force them to go to arcades.

That's not what I said. I didn't say that it's just because I'm paying $50 a year for the service.

My point is simple: You have a choice. You can either pay $50 and be gaurenteed that every game you buy will have some kind of online content, or you can pay nothing and completly miss out on the endless replayabilitywhat online adds. That's what it ultimatly comes down too...and for about $4 a month i know that personally I would rather have the best copy of a game out there.

AGAIN: I'm not saying that the reason why it's on the 360 is because MS charges $50. I can't make this any clearer.

But essentially, if you buy VF5 for the ps3 an I buy VF5 for the 360...who got the better deal? They are both the same price, the only difference is that you would be getting an inferior product.

bezaire2005

Well not all games come out inferior for PS3.

Virtua Fighter 5 happens to be just one of them. Also I don't think all 360 games have online content.

Eternal Sonta will come out PS3 version later and it will have much better options than 360 version. The port that gets released later on usually has better contents that's all.

They don't care about Virtua Fighter, they have Tekken and Soul Calibur.

That's probably the answer you'll get.

Panzer_Zwei

I'm waiting for this. I loved Soul Calibur 2.

I'm just a bit turned off by all of the crap they throw in to appeal to the perverted audience. I remember in 2, a girl's skirt would fly up for no apparent reason, giving you a quick flash of her underwear as if some 13 year old would get excited over it and decide to buy the game.

[QUOTE="bezaire2005"]

[QUOTE="Jada_Kiss"]doesnt really matter. VF5 online will be a scrubfest anyways. The lag will make any type of upper level play worthlessJada_Kiss

..............

Did anyone expect replies like this?

it's true. with the system as a whole requiring precision timing; evasions, juggling, breaking throws, etc

online will reduce the whole gameplay to throwing out strings and getting randomly hit by them. thats all.

Sega knows this and they are just throwing this out to the casuals. And of course sales.

I can give you a fact: 360 will have it, ps3 won't.

All you can give me is a prediction: gameplay will be reduced.

Until you can give me facts all you are doing is wasting space.

Do you people actually expect me to believe that if there was ps3 online content and none for the 360 that you would still be critisizing online performance that so far hasn't even been looked at?

but that still doesn't mean better A.I and version C wouldn't benefit PS3 owners.

The answer for this is simple. Sega simply wants to keep Japanese gamers out of this option and force them to go to arcades.

TriangleHard

Your theory is too far fetched.

[QUOTE="Jada_Kiss"][QUOTE="bezaire2005"]

[QUOTE="Jada_Kiss"]doesnt really matter. VF5 online will be a scrubfest anyways. The lag will make any type of upper level play worthlessTriangleHard

..............

Did anyone expect replies like this?

it's true. with the system as a whole requiring precision timing; evasions, juggling, breaking throws, etc

online will reduce the whole gameplay to throwing out strings and getting randomly hit by them. thats all.

Sega knows this and they are just throwing this out to the casuals. And of course sales.

but that still doesn't mean better A.I and version C wouldn't benefit PS3 owners.

The answer for this is simple. Sega simply wants to keep Japanese gamers out of this option and force them to go to arcades.

even if the PS3 recieved a version C, it still wouldn't deter people from going to the arcades, well, because it can replicate it in no way shape or form. It's nonsense to put money into a PS3 version for Japan at least.

[QUOTE="TriangleHard"]

but that still doesn't mean better A.I and version C wouldn't benefit PS3 owners.

The answer for this is simple. Sega simply wants to keep Japanese gamers out of this option and force them to go to arcades.

Panzer_Zwei

Your theory is too far fetched.

Japanese 360 will not be getting Virtua Fighter 5.

Virtua Fighter 5 will be released outside of Japan only, and I don't think 360 is region free, or is it?

[QUOTE="bezaire2005"]

That's not what I said. I didn't say that it's just because I'm paying $50 a year for the service.

My point is simple: You have a choice. You can either pay $50 and be gaurenteed that every game you buy will have some kind of online content, or you can pay nothing and completly miss out on the endless replayabilitywhat online adds. That's what it ultimatly comes down too...and for about $4 a month i know that personally I would rather have the best copy of a game out there.

AGAIN: I'm not saying that the reason why it's on the 360 is because MS charges $50. I can't make this any clearer.

But essentially, if you buy VF5 for the ps3 an I buy VF5 for the 360...who got the better deal? They are both the same price, the only difference is that you would be getting an inferior product.

TriangleHard

Well not all games come out inferior for PS3.

Virtua Fighter 5 happens to be just one of them. Also I don't think all 360 games have online content.

Eternal Sonta will come out PS3 version later and it will have much better options than 360 version. The port that gets released later on usually has better contents that's all.

[QUOTE="bezaire2005"]

That's not what I said. I didn't say that it's just because I'm paying $50 a year for the service.

My point is simple: You have a choice. You can either pay $50 and be gaurenteed that every game you buy will have some kind of online content, or you can pay nothing and completly miss out on the endless replayabilitywhat online adds. That's what it ultimatly comes down too...and for about $4 a month i know that personally I would rather have the best copy of a game out there.

AGAIN: I'm not saying that the reason why it's on the 360 is because MS charges $50. I can't make this any clearer.

But essentially, if you buy VF5 for the ps3 an I buy VF5 for the 360...who got the better deal? They are both the same price, the only difference is that you would be getting an inferior product.

TriangleHard

Well not all games come out inferior for PS3.

Virtua Fighter 5 happens to be just one of them. Also I don't think all 360 games have online content.

Eternal Sonta will come out PS3 version later and it will have much better options than 360 version. The port that gets released later on usually has better contents that's all.

I didn't say all games, I only mentioned VF5. I'll be responsible for what I said, not what I didn't say. If you want to argue which system so far has had the most inferior multiplatform games, than there are plenty of review sites that have taken to the 360 more kindly...but thats now that this thread is about.

http://tech.yahoo.com/gd/playing-with-an-xbox-360/153065 ...aside from this site, every game I've played so far has had onlien content, and I have no reason to believe there is a game that doesn't.

[QUOTE="Jada_Kiss"][QUOTE="bezaire2005"]

[QUOTE="Jada_Kiss"]doesnt really matter. VF5 online will be a scrubfest anyways. The lag will make any type of upper level play worthlessbezaire2005

..............

Did anyone expect replies like this?

it's true. with the system as a whole requiring precision timing; evasions, juggling, breaking throws, etc

online will reduce the whole gameplay to throwing out strings and getting randomly hit by them. thats all.

Sega knows this and they are just throwing this out to the casuals. And of course sales.

I can give you a fact: 360 will have it, ps3 won't.

All you can give me is a prediction: gameplay will be reduced.

Until you can give me facts all you are doing is wasting space.

Do you people actually expect me to believe that if there was ps3 online content and none for the 360 that you would still be critisizing online performance that so far hasn't even been looked at?

Fact: the 360 online version will not make the gameplay any more fun. Only for people who dont care to learn the game and mash. You can probably only have a semi decent match if you play with someone around the same city as you. that's about it.

[QUOTE="bezaire2005"][QUOTE="Jada_Kiss"][QUOTE="bezaire2005"]

[QUOTE="Jada_Kiss"]doesnt really matter. VF5 online will be a scrubfest anyways. The lag will make any type of upper level play worthlessJada_Kiss

..............

Did anyone expect replies like this?

it's true. with the system as a whole requiring precision timing; evasions, juggling, breaking throws, etc

online will reduce the whole gameplay to throwing out strings and getting randomly hit by them. thats all.

Sega knows this and they are just throwing this out to the casuals. And of course sales.

I can give you a fact: 360 will have it, ps3 won't.

All you can give me is a prediction: gameplay will be reduced.

Until you can give me facts all you are doing is wasting space.

Do you people actually expect me to believe that if there was ps3 online content and none for the 360 that you would still be critisizing online performance that so far hasn't even been looked at?

Fact: the 360 online version will not make the gameplay any more fun. Only for people who dont care to learn the game and mash. You can probably only have a semi decent match if you play with someone around the same city as you. that's about it.

Fact: you didn't give me a fact..only YOUR opinion.

...how exciting.

You think it won't be more fun to play online...you think it will only be for people who dont' care to learn the game and mash...you think you can only have a semi decent match if you play someone around the same city.

Do you know the definition of "fact"?

[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"][QUOTE="TriangleHard"]

but that still doesn't mean better A.I and version C wouldn't benefit PS3 owners.

The answer for this is simple. Sega simply wants to keep Japanese gamers out of this option and force them to go to arcades.

TriangleHard

Your theory is too far fetched.

Japanese 360 will not be getting Virtua Fighter 5.

Virtua Fighter 5 will be released outside of Japan only, and I don't think 360 is region free, or is it?

Region protection is up to the publisher by the way. Dead or Alive 4 for example, has no regional protection.

Fact: the 360 online version will not make the gameplay any more fun. Only for people who dont care to learn the game and mash. You can probably only have a semi decent match if you play with someone around the same city as you. that's about it.

Jada_Kiss

You can definately tell this guy hasn't played DOAU or DOA4 :roll:

Online makes a difference and gives the game more longevity causing it to be more fun. Saying "Fact: the 360 online verison will not make gameplay any more fun. Isn't a fact its just a fanboys biased words spilling from his/her mouth.

That it doesn't get an Asian release is highly unlikely IMO.

Region protection is up to the publisher by the way. Dead or Alive 4 for example, has no regional protection.

Panzer_Zwei

Asian release? that I don't know.

All I know is they said they aren't releasing Virtua Fighter 5 for 360 in Japan, where the game is most popular.

I can't see any other reason why they wouldn't support Virtua Fighter 5 for 360 in Japan other than arcades. It's not like they have to do more work to put the game to Japan. They already made it for 360.

well tekken:dr online says " don't worry about vf5 because yall ps3 owners have me and from sales and reviews i'm alot better than vf5"ermacness

I have Tekken 5 DR. I got it only because VF5 didn't get online mode.

Still, I am big Virtua Fighter fan and not much of Tekken fan, but I'm unwilling to buy 360 and pay annual fee to play that game online. I'd still like online mode of Virtua Fighter 5 for PS3 as well as higher level A.I and version C.

[QUOTE="Jada_Kiss"]

Fact: the 360 online version will not make the gameplay any more fun. Only for people who dont care to learn the game and mash. You can probably only have a semi decent match if you play with someone around the same city as you. that's about it.

Blackbond

You can definately tell this guy hasn't played DOAU or DOA4 :roll:

Online makes a difference and gives the game more longevity causing it to be more fun. Saying "Fact: the 360 online verison will not make gameplay any more fun. Isn't a fact its just a fanboys biased words spilling from his/her mouth.

this is not DOA we are talking about. This is VF. DOA doesn't require what VF does. Every thing, I mean EVERYTHING in VF is critial. Online can only diminish the gameplay unless they dumb down the whole system to DOA status which i dont think they would do. Remember, DOA was programed for the intent of online, VF wasn't.

[QUOTE="Jada_Kiss"]doesnt really matter. VF5 online will be a scrubfest anyways. The lag will make any type of upper level play worthlessbezaire2005

..............

Did anyone expect replies like this?

From someone calling themself Jada Kiss; not surprised at all.

[QUOTE="Jada_Kiss"][QUOTE="bezaire2005"][QUOTE="Jada_Kiss"][QUOTE="bezaire2005"]

[QUOTE="Jada_Kiss"]doesnt really matter. VF5 online will be a scrubfest anyways. The lag will make any type of upper level play worthlessbezaire2005

..............

Did anyone expect replies like this?

it's true. with the system as a whole requiring precision timing; evasions, juggling, breaking throws, etc

online will reduce the whole gameplay to throwing out strings and getting randomly hit by them. thats all.

Sega knows this and they are just throwing this out to the casuals. And of course sales.

I can give you a fact: 360 will have it, ps3 won't.

All you can give me is a prediction: gameplay will be reduced.

Until you can give me facts all you are doing is wasting space.

Do you people actually expect me to believe that if there was ps3 online content and none for the 360 that you would still be critisizing online performance that so far hasn't even been looked at?

Fact: the 360 online version will not make the gameplay any more fun. Only for people who dont care to learn the game and mash. You can probably only have a semi decent match if you play with someone around the same city as you. that's about it.

Fact: you didn't give me a fact..only YOUR opinion.

...how exciting.

You think it won't be more fun to play online...you think it will only be for people who dont' care to learn the game and mash...you think you can only have a semi decent match if you play someone around the same city.

Do you know the definition of "fact"?

there is such a thing called latancy. Latancy and precision dont mix well.

[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="Jada_Kiss"]

Fact: the 360 online version will not make the gameplay any more fun. Only for people who dont care to learn the game and mash. You can probably only have a semi decent match if you play with someone around the same city as you. that's about it.

Jada_Kiss

You can definately tell this guy hasn't played DOAU or DOA4 :roll:

Online makes a difference and gives the game more longevity causing it to be more fun. Saying "Fact: the 360 online verison will not make gameplay any more fun. Isn't a fact its just a fanboys biased words spilling from his/her mouth.

this is not DOA we are talking about. This is VF. DOA doesn't require what VF does. Every thing, I mean EVERYTHING in VF is critial. Online can only diminish the gameplay unless they dumb down the whole system to DOA status which i dont think they would do. Remember, DOA was programed for the intent of online, VF wasn't.

also connection will depend if it lags or not. I've played DOA 4 online many times and have had many battles that aren't laggy or dire.

I own the PS3 version and would rather play against friends locally than get cheezed by online cheezers....with extra cheeze.....and some cheeze dip.......and maybe some of that cheeze that you spray onto your crackers from a can....ok, done.joe_g_patton

I'd rather have the option to decide about whether or not I'd like to play online...you don't have that choice.

And don't lie and say something stupid like "I would rather not have that choice"...because you will just get laughed at.

Saying a game won't be more fun online is like saying a hot girl isn't going to be more fun with her clothes off. Of course she is going to be more fun with her clothes off and of course the game is going to be more fun online. Use common sense people.Blackbond

[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="Jada_Kiss"]

Fact: the 360 online version will not make the gameplay any more fun. Only for people who dont care to learn the game and mash. You can probably only have a semi decent match if you play with someone around the same city as you. that's about it.

Jada_Kiss

You can definately tell this guy hasn't played DOAU or DOA4 :roll:

Online makes a difference and gives the game more longevity causing it to be more fun. Saying "Fact: the 360 online verison will not make gameplay any more fun. Isn't a fact its just a fanboys biased words spilling from his/her mouth.

this is not DOA we are talking about. This is VF. DOA doesn't require what VF does. Every thing, I mean EVERYTHING in VF is critial. Online can only diminish the gameplay unless they dumb down the whole system to DOA status which i dont think they would do. Remember, DOA was programed for the intent of online, VF wasn't.

DOA was programmed for online!?! How do you figure that? The first one came out right after the first Virtua Fighter, using the same engine, and neither was online back then.

[QUOTE="Panzer_Zwei"]

That it doesn't get an Asian release is highly unlikely IMO.

Region protection is up to the publisher by the way. Dead or Alive 4 for example, has no regional protection.

TriangleHard

Asian release? that I don't know.

All I know is they said they aren't releasing Virtua Fighter 5 for 360 in Japan, where the game is most popular.

I can't see any other reason why they wouldn't support Virtua Fighter 5 for 360 in Japan other than arcades. It's not like they have to do more work to put the game to Japan. They already made it for 360.

I think your theory would be really sound if SEGA made something from every coin they put in the Arcade (outside Club SEGA's of course).Then, it would be a killing indeed. But it doesn't work that way. They sell the board or the full Arcade and that's that. The Arcade owner gets all the money from it, since that's obviously the business. And although, the Arcades are still very popular in Japan, it's not like there's hundreds and hundreds of Virtua Fighter V Arcades to be sold. Probably only one per establishment, and it's not like they're at every corner neither. And even at Club SEGA where SEGA would be the one making money, I don't think they're standing in line to play Virtua Fighter V by now.

Also it's not like SEGA doesn't have other Arcade hits, like MushiKing.

I think there's money to be made in an online Virtua Fighter 5, specially in Japan. If there's another hidden agenda in place here, I just don't think it's because the Arcades.

this is not DOA we are talking about. This is VF. DOA doesn't require what VF does. Every thing, I mean EVERYTHING in VF is critial. Online can only diminish the gameplay unless they dumb down the whole system to DOA status which i dont think they would do. Remember, DOA was programed for the intent of online, VF wasn't.

Jada_Kiss

So correct me if I'm wrong.

1. DOA1 was an Arcade game ported to Saturn and PS1.
2. DOA2 was an Arcade game ported to Dreamcast and PS2.
3. Yet Team Ninja got both of these games working online for the Xbox and there were no major issues.

Your point fails.

[QUOTE="joe_g_patton"]I own the PS3 version and would rather play against friends locally than get cheezed by online cheezers....with extra cheeze.....and some cheeze dip.......and maybe some of that cheeze that you spray onto your crackers from a can....ok, done.bezaire2005

I'd rather have the option to decide about whether or not I'd like to play online...you don't have that choice.

And don't lie and say something stupid like "I would rather not have that choice"...because you will just get laughed at.

Hmmmmm, I don't like to play fighters online........so........to me, there is no reason to buy a 360 version of a game that I already own............my worst fear in life is getting LoL'ed at by people on system wars. Please! Nobody LoL at me, OK? I mean it! :shock:

the 360 pad mixed with p2p online? color me not excited...Mandingo101

d-pad and joystick both worked great with dead or alive 4 :)