VF5 vs DOA...the winner is DOA4 by a long shot.

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#51 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="Videodogg"]DOA4 is just more fun. Period, End of story. I dont care about the claims of more depth or complexity to VF5, the game is just too old school. Fighting in flat arenas with no interaction with the environment seems primitive now, and its not very exciting either. I just spent the last couple of hours going back and forth between both games. DOA4 is just more visually exciting ( spectacular actually )and the game play is faster and more spontaneous. Fighting purists be damned, the VF series needs to be put out to pasture untill it can offer legitimate next gen upgrades to the visuals and gameplay.ragrdoll21
LOL If you think DOA has faster Gameplay than VF5,then you haven't played VF5.You should leave SW.....4EVER!!!!



How much faster is VF4 in comparison to VF5?
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#52 SupraGT
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[QUOTE="ragrdoll21"][QUOTE="Videodogg"]DOA4 is just more fun. Period, End of story. I dont care about the claims of more depth or complexity to VF5, the game is just too old school. Fighting in flat arenas with no interaction with the environment seems primitive now, and its not very exciting either. I just spent the last couple of hours going back and forth between both games. DOA4 is just more visually exciting ( spectacular actually )and the game play is faster and more spontaneous. Fighting purists be damned, the VF series needs to be put out to pasture untill it can offer legitimate next gen upgrades to the visuals and gameplay.Blackbond
LOL If you think DOA has faster Gameplay than VF5,then you haven't played VF5.You should leave SW.....4EVER!!!!



How much faster is VF4 in comparison to VF5?

VF5 is a lot faster than VF4, but your skill depends on how fast you move and the flow of the match. I know scrubs in tekken complain about it being slow because they dont know how to sidestep cancel. I actually think tekken is as fast as DOA if not, a little bit slower.

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#53 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="ragrdoll21"][QUOTE="Videodogg"]DOA4 is just more fun. Period, End of story. I dont care about the claims of more depth or complexity to VF5, the game is just too old school. Fighting in flat arenas with no interaction with the environment seems primitive now, and its not very exciting either. I just spent the last couple of hours going back and forth between both games. DOA4 is just more visually exciting ( spectacular actually )and the game play is faster and more spontaneous. Fighting purists be damned, the VF series needs to be put out to pasture untill it can offer legitimate next gen upgrades to the visuals and gameplay.SupraGT

LOL If you think DOA has faster Gameplay than VF5,then you haven't played VF5.You should leave SW.....4EVER!!!!



How much faster is VF4 in comparison to VF5?

VF5 is a lot faster than VF4, but your skill depends on how fast you move and the flow of the match. I know scrubs in tekken complain about it being slow because they dont know how to sidestep cancel. I actually think tekken is as fast as DOA if not, a little bit slower.



So would I be correct to say that the lightning fast pace of Doa4 is faster then VF5. Keep in mind speed of a game does not make it better. From the video reviews it didn't look to have the speed of Doa4 but I still haven't played it to know for sure.
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#54 alcarazo9
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VF is more complex and it requires more skill unlike DOA
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[QUOTE="Hammerofjustice"][QUOTE="Mkavanaugh77"]

[QUOTE="Hammerofjustice"]Soul calibur>>>>>DOAMkavanaugh77

Off topic!!!

noob the topic is about DOA, You are OFF TOPIC.

The topic is about DOA4 Vs VF5,   not SOul Caliber Vs DOA4.

DOA4=8.8   Vs VF5=8.1

DOA4 wins, noob

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/932831.asp?q=virtua%20fighter%205 http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/928260.asp
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#56 turgore
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I agree DOA is incredible but i didn't try VF5 so i won't comment on it. Anyway i once remember in DOA 4 i smashed my opponent on a basket and chickens were running around the arena ( Seaside market) . IT was so funny .
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#57 CarlosPontinas
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I also just played DOA for the first time and I have to say that what Isaid about it before was wrong. A lot of PS fans who don't know anything about this game are in fo a shock. It's 100 times better the VF5 imo. 
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#58 Episode_Eve
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I have both and VF5 owns DOA4 so hard it's not even funny. Actually I sold DOA because it got boring. DOA is a good fighter, just not as good as VF or Tekken (which is my favorite fighter of all time!).
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#59 Billyhyw
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I like both but im gonna give it to DO4 because of online play i did think VF5 for PS3 had better graphics though.
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#60 CarlosPontinas
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Tekken is nothing. Just forget it exists. VF5 is like playing tic tac toe over and over again. It gets stale in no time. DOA is fun.

I think that's the honest truth about it.

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#61 Billyhyw
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DOA4Gameplay 9Graphics 9Sound 8Value 8Tilt 9

VF5Gameplay 8Graphics 8Sound 7Value 7Tilt 9

DOA4 killed VF5

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DOA4 came out a year ago the standards have gotten much higher since then.

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#62 CarlosPontinas
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[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"]DOA4Gameplay 9Graphics 9Sound 8Value 8Tilt 9

VF5Gameplay 8Graphics 8Sound 7Value 7Tilt 9

DOA4 killed VF5

Billyhyw

DOA4 came out a year ago the standards have gotten much higher since then.

DOA4 is gthe stand in my view.
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#63 Billyhyw
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[QUOTE="Billyhyw"][QUOTE="m3Boarder32"]DOA4Gameplay 9Graphics 9Sound 8Value 8Tilt 9

VF5Gameplay 8Graphics 8Sound 7Value 7Tilt 9

DOA4 killed VF5

CarlosPontinas

DOA4 came out a year ago the standards have gotten much higher since then.

DOA4 is gthe stand in my view.

Its a great fighting game but 2 areas have evoloved very quickly in which it got rated.  Graphcis and Sound especially.  Coming form someone who owns both if DOA4 wsa released now it would get like a 7 or 8 in graphics as next gen standards have been raised significantly since the 360 first year.

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#64 PyroXD
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[QUOTE="Hammerofjustice"][QUOTE="Mkavanaugh77"]

[QUOTE="Hammerofjustice"]Soul calibur>>>>>DOAMkavanaugh77

Off topic!!!

noob the topic is about DOA, You are OFF TOPIC.

The topic is about DOA4 Vs VF5, not SOul Caliber Vs DOA4.

DOA4=8.8 Vs VF5=8.1

DOA4 wins, noob

no DOA4= 9 VF5=9.6
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#65 CarlosPontinas
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[QUOTE="Mkavanaugh77"][QUOTE="Hammerofjustice"][QUOTE="Mkavanaugh77"]

[QUOTE="Hammerofjustice"]Soul calibur>>>>>DOAPyroXD

Off topic!!!

noob the topic is about DOA, You are OFF TOPIC.

The topic is about DOA4 Vs VF5, not SOul Caliber Vs DOA4.

DOA4=8.8 Vs VF5=8.1

DOA4 wins, noob

no DOA4= 9 VF5=7.8

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#66 blazinpuertoroc
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meh...VF5>>>Tekken>>>>Soul Calibur>>>>Super Smash Bros>>>>DOA4
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#68 osusfaith
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meh...VF5>>>Tekken>>>>Soul Calibur>>>>Super Smash Bros>>>>DOA4blazinpuertoroc
going by the average of the previous 2 games in each series it's more like : Tekken=Doa>>>>>VF>>>>>Soul Calibur
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#69 CarlosPontinas
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I'm glad I can move forward. Some people here sound like they've cobwebs on them.

VF5 is ancient. Really. Biases are silly Lose them. The truth is DOA is the best of all fighters right now. I don' care what anyone says because I compared them. Also the score officially say DOA is better.

GS scores say DOA is better.

That's the end of the argument.

 

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#70 J1M-e
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Personally i dislike all 3d fighters giv me sum guilty gear,king of fighters or street fighter any day:D
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#71 Me-Ur-Daddy
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Tekken is nothing. Just forget it exists. VF5 is like playing tic tac toe over and over again. It gets stale in no time. DOA is fun.

I think that's the honest truth about it.

CarlosPontinas
lawl, tekken is the best modern fighter of all time and thats a fact. dont even try to say DOA is better than anything cus SF2 beats that game. the only thing good about DOA4 is the environments (that they try to use to hide the horrid fighting engine) and the online(which is less than reliable and one of the main reasons sega left out online for VF5)
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#72 Me-Ur-Daddy
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I'm glad I can move forward. Some people here sound like they've cobwebs on them.

VF5 is ancient. Really. Biases are silly Lose them. The truth is DOA is the best of all fighters right now. I don' care what anyone says because I compared them. Also the score officially say DOA is better.

GS scores say DOA is better.

That's the end of the argument.

 

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yeah you compared them :lol: nasos how many accounts do you have lol?according to the rest of the planet VF > DOA4 even without online... http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/932831.asp?q=virtua%20fighter%205 http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/928260.asp
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#73 kage_53
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[QUOTE="blazinpuertoroc"]meh...VF5>>>Tekken>>>>Soul Calibur>>>>Super Smash Bros>>>>DOA4osusfaith
going by the average of the previous 2 games in each series it's more like : Tekken=Doa>>>>>VF>>>>>Soul Calibur

Tekken 5 got a 9.2 and Tekken 5: DR got a 9.2. The last DOA game to get AAA was DOA2. 
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#74 kage_53
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Jeff is a Tekken fanboy and doesn't like VF games. He really didn't like the fact that it had no online. He said "terrific gameplay". Yeah 8 sure is terrifiric. :|
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#75 osusfaith
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[QUOTE="osusfaith"][QUOTE="blazinpuertoroc"]meh...VF5>>>Tekken>>>>Soul Calibur>>>>Super Smash Bros>>>>DOA4kage_53
going by the average of the previous 2 games in each series it's more like : Tekken=Doa>>>>>VF>>>>>Soul Calibur

Tekken 5 got a 9.2 and Tekken 5: DR got a 9.2. The last DOA game to get AAA was DOA2.

I wasn't counting Tekken 5 twice , i counted Tekken 4 and 5
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DOA4 is just more fun. Period, End of story. I dont care about the claims of more depth or complexity to VF5, the game is just too old school. Fighting in flat arenas with no interaction with the environment seems primitive now, and its not very exciting either. I just spent the last couple of hours going back and forth between both games. DOA4 is just more visually exciting ( spectacular actually )and the game play is faster and more spontaneous. Fighting purists be damned, the VF series needs to be put out to pasture untill it can offer legitimate next gen upgrades to the visuals and gameplay.Videodogg


DOA is a more casual series, VF is much more difficult; there are counterattacks, counterattacks TO counterattacks, switching your fighting forbidden>
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#77 Billyhyw
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[QUOTE="blazinpuertoroc"]meh...VF5>>>Tekken>>>>Soul Calibur>>>>Super Smash Bros>>>>DOA4osusfaith
going by the average of the previous 2 games in each series it's more like : Tekken=Doa>>>>>VF>>>>>Soul Calibur

Soul Caliber owns them all in my opinion.

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#78 CarlosPontinas
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Some people don 't use their brains.

DOA4 and VF5 are next gen fightng games.

Tekken at al don't count at all as they're on old time systems.

DOA wins.

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I also just played DOA for the first time and I have to say that what Isaid about it before was wrong. A lot of PS fans who don't know anything about this game are in fo a shock. It's 100 times better the VF5 imo. CarlosPontinas
So you have a PS3 and VF5?
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[QUOTE="kage_53"][QUOTE="osusfaith"][QUOTE="blazinpuertoroc"]meh...VF5>>>Tekken>>>>Soul Calibur>>>>Super Smash Bros>>>>DOA4osusfaith
going by the average of the previous 2 games in each series it's more like : Tekken=Doa>>>>>VF>>>>>Soul Calibur

Tekken 5 got a 9.2 and Tekken 5: DR got a 9.2. The last DOA game to get AAA was DOA2.

I wasn't counting Tekken 5 twice , i counted Tekken 4 and 5

why dont you go by the average of all the games in the series

DOA=8.3

Tekken=9.3

Tekken>>>DOA

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#81 SupraGT
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[QUOTE="SupraGT"]

[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="ragrdoll21"][QUOTE="Videodogg"]DOA4 is just more fun. Period, End of story. I dont care about the claims of more depth or complexity to VF5, the game is just too old school. Fighting in flat arenas with no interaction with the environment seems primitive now, and its not very exciting either. I just spent the last couple of hours going back and forth between both games. DOA4 is just more visually exciting ( spectacular actually )and the game play is faster and more spontaneous. Fighting purists be damned, the VF series needs to be put out to pasture untill it can offer legitimate next gen upgrades to the visuals and gameplay.Blackbond

LOL If you think DOA has faster Gameplay than VF5,then you haven't played VF5.You should leave SW.....4EVER!!!!



How much faster is VF4 in comparison to VF5?

VF5 is a lot faster than VF4, but your skill depends on how fast you move and the flow of the match. I know scrubs in tekken complain about it being slow because they dont know how to sidestep cancel. I actually think tekken is as fast as DOA if not, a little bit slower.



So would I be correct to say that the lightning fast pace of Doa4 is faster then VF5. Keep in mind speed of a game does not make it better. From the video reviews it didn't look to have the speed of Doa4 but I still haven't played it to know for sure.

DOA is still the fastest of them all but the main point was that VF5 is at a much faster pace than VF4.

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#82 SSJ4Gareth
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People get too elitist with very complex fighting systems... I woudn't call DOA4 a button masher, my friend owned me when he played it properly and I just button mashed

Besides DOA4 has the panties, so it wins in my book.
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#83 Felous1
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By score, yes DOA4 wins. By technical merit, VF5 wins. So which would you prefer as a purchase? Based on a score or technical gameplay? Oh, and btw. Tekken: DR will outscore these two games next week. So much for next gen. :lol: Tekken > all.chrismunx

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/tekken5darkresurrection/review.html?sid=6166657

8.3


:)
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[QUOTE="chrismunx"]By score, yes DOA4 wins. By technical merit, VF5 wins. So which would you prefer as a purchase? Based on a score or technical gameplay? Oh, and btw. Tekken: DR will outscore these two games next week. So much for next gen. :lol: Tekken > all.Felous1

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/tekken5darkresurrection/review.html?sid=6166657

8.3


:)

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[QUOTE="Felous1"][QUOTE="chrismunx"]By score, yes DOA4 wins. By technical merit, VF5 wins. So which would you prefer as a purchase? Based on a score or technical gameplay? Oh, and btw. Tekken: DR will outscore these two games next week. So much for next gen. :lol: Tekken > all.CarlosPontinas

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/tekken5darkresurrection/review.html?sid=6166657

8.3


:)

/thread

I have all 3 of these games (I actually sold DOA4 cuz it got boring). And VF5 is definitely the best of the bunch. Though it's not fair to compare T5: DR since it's essentially a stripped-down port.

Tekken 6 is gonna own them all though :P.
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#86 CarlosPontinas
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[QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="Felous1"][QUOTE="chrismunx"]By score, yes DOA4 wins. By technical merit, VF5 wins. So which would you prefer as a purchase? Based on a score or technical gameplay? Oh, and btw. Tekken: DR will outscore these two games next week. So much for next gen. :lol: Tekken > all.Episode_Eve

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/tekken5darkresurrection/review.html?sid=6166657

8.3


:)

/thread

I have all 3 of these games (I actually sold DOA4 cuz it got boring). And VF5 is definitely the best of the bunch. Though it's not fair to compare T5: DR since it's essentially a stripped-down port.

Tekken 6 is gonna own them all though :P.

We'll see. I predict it will come in last place.
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#87 majadamus
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Umm, Virtua Fighter 5 does have interactive environments, maybe not as much as DoA4, but I do remember Lion getting his head smashed into the tiles as they lifted up.

And, VF5 is surprisingly fast paced and easier than the other VFs so the newbies can stop whining about how "slow" and "complex" it is. If watching glass break and fast paced gameplay make a good fighter, ya VF5 has that and more.
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Anyone who's into fighting games can vouch for the fact that VF5 trounces DoA4 in terms of depth.Rubedo
This is very interesting and makes me curious.... how do you define "depth" in a fighting game? (I am mostly a retro gamer so my favs are still the old school ones like IK+ :p )
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[QUOTE="Rubedo"]Anyone who's into fighting games can vouch for the fact that VF5 trounces DoA4 in terms of depth.melante
This is very interesting and makes me curious.... how do you define "depth" in a fighting game? (I am mostly a retro gamer so my favs are still the old school ones like IK+ :p )

Don't take it seriously. It's a cliched excuse used to make cows feel better.
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[QUOTE="melante"][QUOTE="Rubedo"]Anyone who's into fighting games can vouch for the fact that VF5 trounces DoA4 in terms of depth.CarlosPontinas
This is very interesting and makes me curious.... how do you define "depth" in a fighting game? (I am mostly a retro gamer so my favs are still the old school ones like IK+ :p )

Don't take it seriously. It's a cliched excuse used to make cows feel better.

Cows can't really be proud of VF5 since it really isn't an exclusive title.
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#91 CarlosPontinas
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[QUOTE="CarlosPontinas"][QUOTE="melante"][QUOTE="Rubedo"]Anyone who's into fighting games can vouch for the fact that VF5 trounces DoA4 in terms of depth.majadamus
This is very interesting and makes me curious.... how do you define "depth" in a fighting game? (I am mostly a retro gamer so my favs are still the old school ones like IK+ :p )

Don't take it seriously. It's a cliched excuse used to make cows feel better.

Cows can't really be proud of VF5 since it really isn't an exclusive title.

VF5 may come out on the 360 but it will never be a true 360 game. It comes from other stock.
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Sure DOA isn't a button masher but it sure as hell is the easiest fighter when compared to tekken en VF

I don't even own a 360 but my friend does and on live I am a freaking A+ -_-'

I have played the game for like 9 times and I am that high??

And I don't need any Ă¼ber combo to achieve that either...

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#93 Velric
Member since 2003 • 3842 Posts
[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="ColoradoKindBud"][QUOTE="topcatyo"]

For those too lazy to read.

This is what the TC is saying:

DOA4 is better because it is more fun and that is not an opinion it is a fact.

JeffGenocideX

No, it's an opinion. The only thing DOA4 has going for it is breast physics & pretty graphics. Beyond that, it's a button-masher's wet dream with a busted counter system & no real depth to speak of. VF5 is the complete package; gameplay, graphics & depth. DOA4 is just a breast physics simulator & shouldn't be taken seriously as a fighter.



Yes and that's why the last two Doa's were rated 8.8 right? Mindless bashing of Doa4 lol. This is coming from a huge Doa and VF fan and I think you are full of BS. You probably haven't even played a lot of Doa.

I Agree with that. Button smashing in DoA4... Does not work at all!

I sincerely hope you are being sarcastic. Button mashing very much works in DOA.
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#94 Dave_NBF
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Wow.  Just because a game has good players doesn't mean it ISN'T still a button masher.  Why do people claim:  "If a button masher plays a good player, then he will get destroyed."  That is so flawed.  Most games have some kind of skill built into it, and if someone is amazing at the game doesn't mean that the game isn't severely flawed. one of my favorite online games fight night round 3 is considered severely broken and has many button mashing techniques but if you ever just came online for the first time I guarantee I would end the fight inside of 1 round.  period.

Regarding VF5 and DOA4 (which I have both) VF5 is a better game if you like competition.  period.  I am not talking "fun" etc because everyone's definition of fun is different. But VF5 is very precise. DOA is broken for more reasons than I know about to intelligently talk about.  However I do know that the damage system is BS.  The amount of damage you take from falling off a cliff or getting hit by a running animal or car is too much.  It takes some of the competition away.  Lee is a button mashers dream and you can do pretty well with that.  Even the strategy guide says that almsot verbatim. 

 So can the OP like DOA4 better and think its a better game?  Yah.  Can he argue it is has a better fighting engine and offer a more competitive and balanced experience?  no.  The fighting community disagrees based on facts.  It is  a precise game just like cs:1.6 is.  You can argue halo2 is the more competitive game all you want; but it isn't reality. 

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#95 Timstuff
Member since 2002 • 26840 Posts
DOA4 = Virtua Fighter for dummies. I don't care how fancy the arenas are, the fighting system in DOA4 is fundamentally broken. And ontop of that, VF5 has better graphics.
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#96 MyopicCanadian
Member since 2004 • 8345 Posts
[QUOTE="JeffGenocideX"][QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="ColoradoKindBud"][QUOTE="topcatyo"]

For those too lazy to read.

This is what the TC is saying:

DOA4 is better because it is more fun and that is not an opinion it is a fact.

Velric

No, it's an opinion. The only thing DOA4 has going for it is breast physics & pretty graphics. Beyond that, it's a button-masher's wet dream with a busted counter system & no real depth to speak of. VF5 is the complete package; gameplay, graphics & depth. DOA4 is just a breast physics simulator & shouldn't be taken seriously as a fighter.



Yes and that's why the last two Doa's were rated 8.8 right? Mindless bashing of Doa4 lol. This is coming from a huge Doa and VF fan and I think you are full of BS. You probably haven't even played a lot of Doa.

I Agree with that. Button smashing in DoA4... Does not work at all!

I sincerely hope you are being sarcastic. Button mashing very much works in DOA.

Only against someone who doesn't know how to play. Button mashing results in predictable combos = easy counters.