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#1 Zune_HD
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Glad I got the XBOX 360 version.

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#2 iAtrocious
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Considering the amount of gamers who get consoles just to play Call of Duty (it's a sad, but true, fact), this could have some bad repercussions for Sony.

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#3 Kashiwaba
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Glad I didn't waste any $ on a rehash called CoD :P.

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#4 soulitane
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Sounds like something to get the person to shut up, I doubt they will.
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#5 Jamani
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LOL Sony is finished.
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#6 StealthMonkey4
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Lol.

I doubt they will though.

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#7 lx_theo
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Considering the amount of gamers who get consoles just to play Call of Duty (it's a sad, but true, fact), this could have some bad repercussions for Sony.

iAtrocious
From my experience, that community has a MUCH larger following on the 360 than the PS3.
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#8 poorfamz
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Somebody got Paid $$$$$$$$MMSSSSSS
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Wow....I've partaken in the Call of Duty hate bandwagon before with Modern Warfare 2, but kept my optimism open for Activision. I bought and enjoyed Black Ops on PS3 since day 1, and was actually looking forward to seeing what they might have in store next.

This though, this is just disgusting, and I honestly feel like never supporting Activision ever again if they decide to pull a childish move like this. You can tell all that money is going to their heads.

I seriously feel bad for Sony right now. 2011 was supposed to be a great year for them by releasing so many amazing looking titles, just for them to get spit on in every direction from punk-!@# dip-!@#s who can't think outside the box for one second.

I hope Activision, GeoHotz, and any upcoming and current cheater/pirate on the PS3 get burned hard. Let's hope Sony doesn't suffer many losses from all of this happening to them so quickly.

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#10 iAtrocious
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[QUOTE="iAtrocious"]

Considering the amount of gamers who get consoles just to play Call of Duty (it's a sad, but true, fact), this could have some bad repercussions for Sony.

lx_theo

From my experience, that community has a MUCH larger following on the 360 than the PS3.

They're both considerably large, and unless you have proof for that statement, I can't agree with you. The 360 sold more copies, but that happens to all games released on both consoles. And even so, it was only ~1+ million copies.

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That's a tad excessive.

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#12 Kashiwaba
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[QUOTE="lx_theo"][QUOTE="iAtrocious"]

Considering the amount of gamers who get consoles just to play Call of Duty (it's a sad, but true, fact), this could have some bad repercussions for Sony.

iAtrocious

From my experience, that community has a MUCH larger following on the 360 than the PS3.

They're both considerably large, and unless you have proof for that statement, I can't agree with you. The 360 sold more copies, but that happens to all games released on both consoles. And even so, it was only ~1+ million copies.

Not really :P.

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Ya, that won't happen...

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#14 Diviniuz
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I call BS
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#15 broken_ops
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lol my friend who only owns a ps3 is gonna be pissed if they do that. all he does is play black ops
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#16 finalfantasy94
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IF this really happens(doubt it) the only reasons I can think of why is thanks to that dude who was intereviewed recentlywho hacked the ps3 this is what happens. Even though he said he didint mean it to have negative effects. The other reason being MS and activison are hardcore BB.

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#17 poorfamz
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See I told yall not to buy anymore COD games after MW2
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IF this really happens(doubt it) the only reasons I can think of why is thanks to that dude who was intereviewed recentlywho hacked the ps3 this is what happens. Even though he said he didint mean it to have negative effects. The other reason being MS and activison are hardcore BB.

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I like how you brought MS into a completely unrelated topic.

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#19 lowe0
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Guess they don't want to sell us DLC then. I already went back to Bad Company 2, and with Killzone 3 coming, I couldn't care less.
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#20 catfishmoon23
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That would make way too many people mad.

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#21 OreoMilkshake
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Won't happen. But if it does,[spoiler] Glad I got the Wii version [/spoiler]

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#22 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

IF this really happens(doubt it) the only reasons I can think of why is thanks to that dude who was intereviewed recentlywho hacked the ps3 this is what happens. Even though he said he didint mean it to have negative effects. The other reason being MS and activison are hardcore BB.

iAtrocious

I like how you brought MS into a completely unrelated topic.

IM just guessing the two reasons if ti does happen. You never know dude.

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Whereas the moral standing of Activision on this matter is certainly debatable (and I'm not gonna get into that), I think I'll take a minute here to describe how far reaching the consequences of such a move might be. If you all remember, Activision was the first third party publisher to pull the plug on PSP support here in the west. What followed then was a domino effect, as all third party support for the handheld began to die out (except for EA's) until pretty soon, the PSP began to suffer incredibly long droughts that still characterize the system today. This was all in spite of Sony's continued (and some would say dogged) first party support for the system. The reason Activision stopped supporting the PSP was less than expected sales of PSP games for them thanks to piracy and a shrunken userbase, meaning that it was increasingly a loss making proposition for those guys to continue PSP support. The parallels with the current situation are hard to miss- Activision has already voiced its displeasure at the PS3's userbase (back in May 2009 when Kotick threatened to stop supporting the system altogether), and now, as piracy begins to run rampant on the system, AND it begins to compromise the online networks (which, incidentally, is CoD's biggest selling point), Activision will surely be looking at pulling the plug again. Whereas no Activision games might not matter all that much to a vast majority of System Wars gamers, to the average PS3 owner, it would be a big blow. Also, by doing this, Activision will be setting a precedent, and might open the floodgates for a mass third party exodus from the system, like what happened with the PSP. Sony really needs to step in and prevent this from happening- the entire future of the PS3, a system that seems so well set for the future, and one that is only now truly coming into its own, is at stake.
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Whereas the moral standing of Activision on this matter is certainly debatable (and I'm not gonna get into that), I think I'll take a minute here to describe how far reaching the consequences of such a move might be. If you all remember, Activision was the first third party publisher to pull the plug on PSP support here in the west. What followed then was a domino effect, as all third party support for the handheld began to die out (except for EA's) until pretty soon, the PSP began to suffer incredibly long droughts that still characterize the system today. This was all in spite of Sony's continued (and some would say dogged) first party support for the system. The reason Activision stopped supporting the PSP was less than expected sales of PSP games for them thanks to piracy and a shrunken userbase, meaning that it was increasingly a loss making proposition for those guys to continue PSP support. The parallels with the current situation are hard to miss- Activision has already voiced its displeasure at the PS3's userbase (back in May 2009 when Kotick threatened to stop supporting the system altogether), and now, as piracy begins to run rampant on the system, AND it begins to compromise the online networks (which, incidentally, is CoD's biggest selling point), Activision will surely be looking at pulling the plug again. Whereas no Activision games might not matter all that much to a vast majority of System Wars gamers, to the average PS3 owner, it would be a big blow. Also, by doing this, Activision will be setting a precedent, and might open the floodgates for a mass third party exodus from the system, like what happened with the PSP. Sony really needs to step in and prevent this from happening- the entire future of the PS3, a system that seems so well set for the future, and one that is only now truly coming into its own, is at stake.charizard1605

That only sounds badass when you're talking about something like the future of mankind or galactic civilization.

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#25 ksko
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Guess they don't want to sell us DLC then. I already went back to Bad Company 2, and with Killzone 3 coming, I couldn't care less.lowe0

Same here :) +1

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#26 Pug-Nasty
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Bwahaha. I hope they don't shut down the "servers" for BO though, that franchise keeps all the window lickers out of the good games.

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What would be the point of that?

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#28 rolo107
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Call of Duty 8 to not be on PS3? :P
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The solution is PS4 2012. And this time Sony make sure that random security numbers are not the same for each system.

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Whereas the moral standing of Activision on this matter is certainly debatable (and I'm not gonna get into that), I think I'll take a minute here to describe how far reaching the consequences of such a move might be. If you all remember, Activision was the first third party publisher to pull the plug on PSP support here in the west. What followed then was a domino effect, as all third party support for the handheld began to die out (except for EA's) until pretty soon, the PSP began to suffer incredibly long droughts that still characterize the system today. This was all in spite of Sony's continued (and some would say dogged) first party support for the system. The reason Activision stopped supporting the PSP was less than expected sales of PSP games for them thanks to piracy and a shrunken userbase, meaning that it was increasingly a loss making proposition for those guys to continue PSP support. The parallels with the current situation are hard to miss- Activision has already voiced its displeasure at the PS3's userbase (back in May 2009 when Kotick threatened to stop supporting the system altogether), and now, as piracy begins to run rampant on the system, AND it begins to compromise the online networks (which, incidentally, is CoD's biggest selling point), Activision will surely be looking at pulling the plug again. Whereas no Activision games might not matter all that much to a vast majority of System Wars gamers, to the average PS3 owner, it would be a big blow. Also, by doing this, Activision will be setting a precedent, and might open the floodgates for a mass third party exodus from the system, like what happened with the PSP. Sony really needs to step in and prevent this from happening- the entire future of the PS3, a system that seems so well set for the future, and one that is only now truly coming into its own, is at stake.iAtrocious

That only sounds badass when you're talking about something like the future of mankind or galactic civilization.

Or when we're talking about coffee :P But seriously, Sony's invested millions of dollars into the PS3, which has just now started to inch into the black. If the PS3 ends up losing third party support and begins to falter its newly gained momentum, then we might have one of two scenarios for the future- a) to minimize on losses, Sony might decide to pull out of the gaming market entirely, or b) to minimize on losses, Sony might not invest in R&D as much as they did with the PS3 ever in the future again, meaning that you won't be seeing top of the line systems from them again, only gimped products that will barely be good enough to keep apace of the competition (sort of like how the Sony Ericsson division was until recently). People need to understand the long term effects of something like this. It's like the butterfly wing effect- if you want to keep a tab on the situation, you nip the problem now, when it's still in the bud.
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#31 Pug-Nasty
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[QUOTE="iAtrocious"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Whereas the moral standing of Activision on this matter is certainly debatable (and I'm not gonna get into that), I think I'll take a minute here to describe how far reaching the consequences of such a move might be. If you all remember, Activision was the first third party publisher to pull the plug on PSP support here in the west. What followed then was a domino effect, as all third party support for the handheld began to die out (except for EA's) until pretty soon, the PSP began to suffer incredibly long droughts that still characterize the system today. This was all in spite of Sony's continued (and some would say dogged) first party support for the system. The reason Activision stopped supporting the PSP was less than expected sales of PSP games for them thanks to piracy and a shrunken userbase, meaning that it was increasingly a loss making proposition for those guys to continue PSP support. The parallels with the current situation are hard to miss- Activision has already voiced its displeasure at the PS3's userbase (back in May 2009 when Kotick threatened to stop supporting the system altogether), and now, as piracy begins to run rampant on the system, AND it begins to compromise the online networks (which, incidentally, is CoD's biggest selling point), Activision will surely be looking at pulling the plug again. Whereas no Activision games might not matter all that much to a vast majority of System Wars gamers, to the average PS3 owner, it would be a big blow. Also, by doing this, Activision will be setting a precedent, and might open the floodgates for a mass third party exodus from the system, like what happened with the PSP. Sony really needs to step in and prevent this from happening- the entire future of the PS3, a system that seems so well set for the future, and one that is only now truly coming into its own, is at stake.charizard1605

That only sounds badass when you're talking about something like the future of mankind or galactic civilization.

Or when we're talking about coffee :P But seriously, Sony's invested millions of dollars into the PS3, which has just now started to inch into the black. If the PS3 ends up losing third party support and begins to falter its newly gained momentum, then we might have one of two scenarios for the future- a) to minimize on losses, Sony might decide to pull out of the gaming market entirely, or b) to minimize on losses, Sony might not invest in R&D as much as they did with the PS3 ever in the future again, meaning that you won't be seeing top of the line systems from them again, only gimped products that will barely be good enough to keep apace of the competition (sort of like how the Sony Ericsson division was until recently). People need to understand the long term effects of something like this. It's like the butterfly wing effect- if you want to keep a tab on the situation, you nip the problem now, when it's still in the bud.

What kind of crystal ball to you have? This has nothing to do with losing 3rd party support. This has everything to do with a 3rd party publisher getting pissy about being called incompetent 24/7 by a community that is very vocal about how piss poor their product is.

They are incompetent, and if they don't want to be called out for being crap than they should increase their standards, rather than poo out a barely developed product every year while blowing the whole budget for that product on marketing.

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#32 GodofEmpires
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99.9% not likely. Anyone remember when Activision threatened to drop Sony?
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#33 Dilrod
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The solution is PS4 2012. And this time Sony make sure that random security numbers are not the same for each system.

Giant_Panda
This has nothing to do with the jailbreak. COD has been broke on ps3 since launch.
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#34 poorfamz
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Because of this I just sold my PS3 + black ops and bought a brand new 360 slim + black ops. Sarcasm
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#35 WilliamRLBaker
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wow....here is the link to the original blog with a zip file containing all back and forth between this guy and Acitivision.
http://jasonkoblovsky.blogspot.com/2011/01/activision-threatens-to-pull-psn.html

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="iAtrocious"]

That only sounds badass when you're talking about something like the future of mankind or galactic civilization.

Pug-Nasty

Or when we're talking about coffee :P But seriously, Sony's invested millions of dollars into the PS3, which has just now started to inch into the black. If the PS3 ends up losing third party support and begins to falter its newly gained momentum, then we might have one of two scenarios for the future- a) to minimize on losses, Sony might decide to pull out of the gaming market entirely, or b) to minimize on losses, Sony might not invest in R&D as much as they did with the PS3 ever in the future again, meaning that you won't be seeing top of the line systems from them again, only gimped products that will barely be good enough to keep apace of the competition (sort of like how the Sony Ericsson division was until recently). People need to understand the long term effects of something like this. It's like the butterfly wing effect- if you want to keep a tab on the situation, you nip the problem now, when it's still in the bud.

What kind of crystal ball to you have? This has nothing to do with losing 3rd party support. This has everything to do with a 3rd party publisher getting pissy about being called incompetent 24/7 by a community that is very vocal about how piss poor their product is.

They are incompetent, and if they don't want to be called out for being crap than they should increase their standards, rather than poo out a barely developed product every year while blowing the whole budget for that product on marketing.

The problem here isn't the yearly rehash that Call of Duty is, but how fragile their online service has become due to recent PS3 hackings. And, before someone pulls the "it hasn't happened to Uncharted, Killzone, etc." card, CoD has a much larger fanbase and is more susceptible to getting hacked.

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#37 LegatoSkyheart
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They would be alienating an entire Gaming Community if they do that.

not to mention that Call of Duty is Profitable on the PS3 as well.

I thought Activision loved Money.

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#38 killzonexbox
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You know the funniest part tho??? PC gaming has had piracy FOREVER. So devs made security in the games themselves or with other checks, and on the other end the PC is left wide open. So what makes the game developers think that it is sony's responsibility to protect their games when they are forced to protect it themselves on other platforms?? Activision is just a lazy company. Seriously...
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#39 mrmcygan
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LINK

This is his full quote:


Well I have nothing else to offer and I too follow forums and have many friends who play and enjoy the game for all of its features. As an avid gamer, I would also disagree with any legalities involving a single aspect of a game as online experience may change at any time. The publishers have the right to shut down the servers for their game at any time as well which based on the number of reported posts from users may be a viable solution over the free PSN.

In any event, if you would like to send your game disc into us, we can either;


a) Exchange for a sealed (unopened) copy of the game that you can take back to the retailer

b) Swap for another platform
c) Exchange for another Activision title of equal or lesser value.

These are the options that we are able to offer to you as a one time courtesy.



Let us know how you would like to proceed.

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#40 killzonexbox
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99.9% not likely. Anyone remember when Activision threatened to drop Sony? GodofEmpires
Yeah I remember that wasn't that after E3 2009...
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#41 Solid_Sterb
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I doubt they will.

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#42 poorfamz
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[QUOTE="killzonexbox"]You know the funniest part tho??? PC gaming has had piracy FOREVER. So devs made security in the games themselves or with other checks, and on the other end the PC is left wide open. So what makes the game developers think that it is sony's responsibility to protect their games when they are forced to protect it themselves on other platforms?? Activision is just a lazy company. Seriously...

That's why I said , Somebody just Got Paid $$$$$$ M
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[QUOTE="GodofEmpires"]99.9% not likely. Anyone remember when Activision threatened to drop Sony? killzonexbox
Yeah I remember that wasn't that after E3 2009...

:lol: Never heard about that. But I read an article about it . http://www.engadget.com/2009/06/19/activision-threatens-to-drop-sony-if-sony-doesnt-drop-ps3-and-p/

LOL THIS is to funny. But back to topic, no. Activision wants money and they will do anything "anything" for money

But if they do, i dont care. I sold black ops for 35$ and i got myself 7 footlongs. It was a good deal :)

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="iAtrocious"]

That only sounds badass when you're talking about something like the future of mankind or galactic civilization.

Pug-Nasty

Or when we're talking about coffee :P But seriously, Sony's invested millions of dollars into the PS3, which has just now started to inch into the black. If the PS3 ends up losing third party support and begins to falter its newly gained momentum, then we might have one of two scenarios for the future- a) to minimize on losses, Sony might decide to pull out of the gaming market entirely, or b) to minimize on losses, Sony might not invest in R&D as much as they did with the PS3 ever in the future again, meaning that you won't be seeing top of the line systems from them again, only gimped products that will barely be good enough to keep apace of the competition (sort of like how the Sony Ericsson division was until recently). People need to understand the long term effects of something like this. It's like the butterfly wing effect- if you want to keep a tab on the situation, you nip the problem now, when it's still in the bud.

What kind of crystal ball to you have? This has nothing to do with losing 3rd party support. This has everything to do with a 3rd party publisher getting pissy about being called incompetent 24/7 by a community that is very vocal about how piss poor their product is.

They are incompetent, and if they don't want to be called out for being crap than they should increase their standards, rather than poo out a barely developed product every year while blowing the whole budget for that product on marketing.

I'm not saying what I'm saying WILL happen, I'm just saying that there's a high probabilistic chance that it MIGHT. You don't require a crystal ball to make such an analysis, you only need to be able to think critically and logically ;) And please, the issue here is not the 'boycott' that a couple of thousand internet posters are staging, no. The issue here is that the recent PS3 hacks have compromised PSN, and have led to Modern Warfare 2 (one of the most popular games online after all), to be overrun by hackers. If this is the case, then they might feel justified in pulling the plug on PS3 support if they want to. I'm not saying they will or will not be justified- I'm just saying it the way they will see it.
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#45 mrmcygan
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I may be 100% wrong on this, but could they use a program similar to Punkbuster to try to stop this.

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#46 VensInferno
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When is Geohotz going to court ?

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#47 psnisdoomedsoon
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wow thank god I dont got a ps3 and stuck with a 360 this gen LOL
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When is Geohotz going to court ?

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The hearing date has been postponed till Summer.
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#49 OmegaPillow
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I stopped caring about this game after a month of playing

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#50 BigBoss154
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wow thank god I dont got a ps3 and stuck with a 360 this gen LOLpsnisdoomedsoon

Did you really need to make a new account just for that asinine comment?